Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519
03/26/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE
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SENATE BILL NO. 67 "An Act relating to firefighting substances; and providing for an effective date." 2:50:07 PM SENATOR JESSE KIEHL, SPONSOR, introduced SB 67 and explained that per and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) were a group of chemicals harmful to human health. The chemicals were linked to serious health conditions including low birth weight, thyroid disease, and cancer, even in extremely small concentrations. He relayed that PFAS were an efficient firefighting tool because the chemicals were waterproof and fire resistant; however, PFAS were difficult to get rid of and toxic. When PFAS were used in firefighting, it was common for the chemicals to infiltrate drinking water. As more locations around Alaska were tested for PFAS contamination due to the use of firefighting foam, it was discovered that PFAS contamination was more common than previously thought. Senator Kiehl explained that SB 67 would take a "no new spills" approach to the problem. The bill would require anyone with firefighting foam that contained PFAS to make a switch to fluorine-free alternatives that were already approved for use in airports. The Federal Aviation Association (FAA) had adopted the military specifications and it was particularly interested in the fluorine-free foam's ability to quickly extinguish jet fuel fires on top of an aircraft carrier. The FAA had approved the fluorine- free foams that had been in use in other places around the world for many years and the alternatives were available. The bill had a delayed implementation for the oil and gas industry because fluorine-free foams that would successfully extinguish oil and gas fires were not yet available. The goal of the bill was to protect people's health, not cost workers their lives. He shared that the technology was improving and tools would soon be available for the oil and gas industry. Several of Alaska's firefighting professionals, including the current fire marshal, were either involved in or were closely monitoring research in other states, but Alaska was not yet ready for the switch. 2:54:44 PM Senator Kiehl explained that the next major provision in SB 67 was also focused on the no new spills goal. Some years back, the state collaborated with the Rasmuson Foundation and the Alaska Village Initiative to put together firefighting carts called Code Red carts. The carts could be pulled behind a four-wheeler and could be transported easily to fight fires. The carts were provided to 136 rural communities and the cargo included a canister of PFAS firefighting foam concentrate. At present, 85 percent of the carts were broken and could not be used to fight fires, but the concentrate was still present in villages all across Alaska. The bill required that the state would ensure that the concentrate was properly disposed of and it would not be left in rural villages where there was a risk of spillage. Senator Kiehl relayed that the bill needed two fixes: the first was the effective date and the second was tweaking some language in the bill to make it acceptable to the administration. He had received proposed language from the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) earlier in the day and he would soon be drafting the language into an amendment. He would share the language with the committee once it was written into the amendment. The work had been collaborative and productive and he hoped to bring the committee the new language in the near future. Senator Kiehl noted that there were invited testifiers waiting to provide testimony. He introduced Mr. John Goeckerman, who was serving as an intern in his office through the University of Alaska and Ted Stevens Foundation's legislative internship program. He shared that his staff could provide a sectional analysis at the chair's discretion. Co-Chair Foster suggested that the committee hear the sectional analysis. 2:57:16 PM JOHN GOECKERMAN, STAFF, SENATOR JESSE KIEHL, reviewed the sectional analysis (copy on file): Sec. 1 of the bill creates a new section: Sec. 46.03.340(a): Everyone outside the oil & gas industry must stop using PFAS-containing foams, unless federal law preempts Alaska law. Sec. 46.03.340(b): People fighting fires in the oil & gas industry may continue using PFAS- containing foams until an alternative is approved by regulation. Sec. 46.03.340(c): The state fire marshal can determine there is a safe and effective PFASfree foam for fighting oil or gas fires if the alternate foam is listed by an organization in OSHA's Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory Program. The fire marshal must require the new foam by regulation, with a stated effective date. Sec. 46.03.340(d): DEC must take up to 40 gallons per year of PFAS-containing firefighting foam from Alaskans for disposal. Sec. 2 of the bill sets an effective date of January 1, 2024. Co-Chair Foster relayed that the committee would hear from invited testifiers. 2:58:26 PM DAVID PRUHS, MAYOR, CITY OF FAIRBANKS, FAIRBANKS (via teleconference), testified that the City of Fairbanks had a PFAS contamination environmental issue. He relayed that Fairbanks had a firefighting training center with a containment system and firefighters would light up oil in the containment system and put the fire out. The containment system did not fail, but the firefighters sprayed outside of the containment system and chemicals leached into the water table and migrated in a northwest path for about four miles. The city had spent approximately $5.4 million to connect houses to water systems to prevent contamination, but the problem was still pervasive. He often asked himself what he could do that might impact the state in 20 years. He thought that banning PFAS would have a positive impact in 20 years and it would have a positive effect on the environment. 3:00:20 PM JUSTIN MACK, SECRETARY TREASURER, ALASKA PROFESSIONAL FIRE FIGHTERS' ASSOCIATION, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), testified in support of SB 67. He currently served with the Alaska Professional Firefighters, the Anchorage Firefighters Union, the Firefighter Cancer Support Network, and was a captain at Fire Station 3 in Mountain View with the Anchorage Fire Department. One of the things that he had learned about the profession was how dangerous fires could be. There were known threats such as a burning building, a roof collapse, a commercial building collapse, but the threat he did not one understand as a new firefighter was exposure to dangerous chemicals that could lead to cancer. He relayed that exposure to chemicals was responsible for the highest number of firefighter deaths. The connection between PFAS and cancer was incredibly strong. In 2022, the International Agency for Research on Cancer changed its view and made the occupation of firefighting a Group 1 carcinogen, which meant the profession itself was carcinogenic to humans. He explained that Group 1 classification was used when there was the strongest level of evidence that a substance could cause cancer. Firefighters were exposed to toxic chemicals through the firefighting foam and the protective equipment that firefighters wore. Mr. Mack added that PFAS was a broad category and only one of the areas of exposure. The PFAS firefighting foam worked by creating a blanket over a liquid seal that acted as a barrier preventing flammable vapors from escaping the liquid. The foam helped to both extinguish the fire and to prevent additional ignition of vapors. The problem was that although foams containing PFAS were more effective than fluorine-free foams, PFAS had harmful effects on humans and animals. The chemicals would not degrade naturally in the environment. In January of 2023, the Department of Defense issued a new performance specification for firefighting foams used by the military. The specification outlined the functional requirements for firefighting foams used on military bases and were required to be able to effectively extinguish Class B hydrocarbon liquid fuel fires without containing PFAS. The next step that several groups were working on was how to improve the foams to increase effectiveness in fighting fires. He thought that the foam products would become available on a larger scale as more testing was done. Mr. Mack continued that exposure to PFAS had been linked to several issues including cancer, reproductive problems, immune system disorders, and hormonal disruption, and firefighters were at an increased risk of exposure. Legislation was crucial to limit the use of PFAS in firefighting foams and promote the adoption of safer alternatives. By restricting the use of PFAS-containing foams, the legislature could reduce firefighters' exposure to the harmful chemicals and mitigate the environmental impacts of PFAS contamination. Additionally, legislation could promote support of PFAS-free firefighting foams that were effective in extinguishing fires without posing health and environmental risks. He concluded that addressing firefighter safety concerns surrounding PFAS required comprehensive legislation to limit the use of PFAS firefighting foams and mitigate the environmental impact. By prioritizing and adopting safer alternatives and implementing measures to prevent PFAS contamination of drinking water, the legislature could safeguard the health and wellness of firefighters and communities. 3:05:41 PM Co-Chair Foster asked how many gallons of PFAS foam were on the firefighting carts that were distributed to the rural villages. He was trying to determine how many of the carts could be taken back per year. Senator Kiehl responded that the cap of 40 gallons written in the bill was targeted at the Code Red carts. The carts had a five gallon concentrate and a 30 gallon premix tank. The cap of 40 gallons was chosen to allow for a buffer. Representative Josephson recalled that Senator Kiehl mentioned an upcoming amendment related to the take back provision. He asked whether the administration was working with the senator on take back provision language only or was it also working with the senator on finding an alternative to PFAS itself. Senator Kiehl responded that the amendment language was related to the take back provision and PFAS foam in villages and small remote areas. He thought that members of the committee would recall that the governor's capital budget included funding for DOT to replace PFAS foams at DOT-operated airports, which he applauded. He understood that DOT was the second largest owner of PFAS foam in the state. He thought that DOT was on the right track, and it was now buying fluorine-free foams. Co-Chair Foster invited the senator to make any closing comments. Senator Kiehl appreciated that the committee had taken time to focus on the issue and looked forward to working with the committee again once the amendment language from the administration was finalized. HB 259 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further consideration. Co-Chair Foster reviewed the agenda for the following day's meeting.