Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

05/16/2025 09:00 AM House FINANCE


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08:19:33 AM SB64
08:58:48 AM Adjourn
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CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 64(FIN) am                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act relating  to  elections;  relating to  voters;                                                                    
     relating  to voting;  relating  to voter  registration;                                                                    
     relating  to election  administration; relating  to the                                                                    
     Alaska Public Offices  Commission; relating to campaign                                                                    
     contributions;  relating  to  the  crimes  of  unlawful                                                                    
     interference with voting in  the first degree, unlawful                                                                    
     interference  with an  election, and  election official                                                                    
     misconduct;    relating   to    synthetic   media    in                                                                    
     electioneering  communications;  relating  to  campaign                                                                    
     signs;  relating  to  voter registration  on  permanent                                                                    
     fund   dividend    applications;   relating    to   the                                                                    
     Redistricting  Board; relating  to  the  duties of  the                                                                    
     commissioner   of  revenue;   and   providing  for   an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:19:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp asked  about section 12, page  9 of the                                                                    
bill and  the proposed rural  community liaison. He  did not                                                                    
have an  issue with the  concept. He assumed  that precincts                                                                    
and  rural  areas were  already  staffed.  He asked  for  an                                                                    
explanation  of why  a special  community  liaison would  be                                                                    
needed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson   asked   which  page   was   being                                                                    
referenced.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp referenced page 9, lines 1 through 5.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:21:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  DUNSMORE,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  BILL  WIELECHOWSKI,                                                                    
explained  that the  rural  community  liaison position  had                                                                    
been requested  by the Alaska  Federation of  Natives (AFN).                                                                    
He relayed that  staffing voting in rural  Alaska had unique                                                                    
challenges  that   were  not  faced  in   urban  Alaska.  He                                                                    
mentioned  urban communities  with  multiple precincts  that                                                                    
had  redundancy to  cover positions.  He maintained  that it                                                                    
was  more difficult  in  a  rural precinct,  and  if a  poll                                                                    
worker  was unable  to come  it could  result in  delayed or                                                                    
closed polling places. He contended  that there needed to be                                                                    
preparation to  ensure staff was  recruited and  trained. He                                                                    
thought  a full-time  position dedicated  to addressing  the                                                                    
issues would  help the state  be better prepared  and ensure                                                                    
voting was accessible in all regions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted that  there  were  people online  to                                                                    
answer questions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard stated  that she  was distributing  a                                                                    
flyer  regarding the  special needs  ballot, which  had come                                                                    
from the Division of Elections.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  noted that the position  was listed as                                                                    
a range 16 in the fiscal note,  which he did not think was a                                                                    
very high range for what  was discussed. He thought it would                                                                    
be  good  to  hear  from   the  division  of  elections.  He                                                                    
mentioned a couple  of precincts in the  North Slope Borough                                                                    
that had not opened on time on an election day.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:25:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROL  BEECHER,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF   ELECTIONS,  (via                                                                    
teleconference)  responded  that  in  the  primary  election                                                                    
there  were  several precincts  that  did  not open  due  to                                                                    
polling workers  not being available  that day.  She relayed                                                                    
that  range  16  positions  were helping  with  staffing  of                                                                    
polling  places  for all  the  regions.  She noted  that  in                                                                    
region  4,  agreements were  signed  during  the summer  but                                                                    
nearer to  polling time the  individuals sometimes  were not                                                                    
available  at  the  last  minute.   In  some  instances  the                                                                    
division had not found out until the day before elections.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Beecher  described making  an agreement  with Department                                                                    
of  Military   and  Veterans  Affairs  (DMVA)   whereby  the                                                                    
division  trained  and  sent   DMVA  staff  to  various  hub                                                                    
communities to be  ready to travel to  locations that needed                                                                    
poll workers  to open  the polls  for the  general election.                                                                    
She recounted sending two workers  to Egegik. On the morning                                                                    
of  election day,  the division  found  that the  individual                                                                    
signed up for Wales would  not be available. Weather made it                                                                    
impossible to send  a poll worker, and the  division found a                                                                    
teacher that  was able to  open the polls in  the afternoon.                                                                    
She  pondered  whether  a special  liaison  would  help  the                                                                    
matter, and thought  it was possible but  was dependent upon                                                                    
the communities  being engaged and having  people willing to                                                                    
do the work.  She surmised that the division  could hire and                                                                    
train  people, but  it was  not possible  to foresee  if the                                                                    
individuals would  be there at  the assigned time,  thus the                                                                    
development of the contingency plan.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted  that   a  few  of  the  communities                                                                    
mentioned were  in his district  the previous  election, and                                                                    
he was  made aware on the  day of the election  that some of                                                                    
the  polls  could  not  open. He  was  appreciative  of  the                                                                    
efforts of  the division. He  mentioned the staff  from DMVA                                                                    
in Nome being available. He  commented on the challenge with                                                                    
over 200 villages in the state.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:29:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp  asked   for  clarification   of  the                                                                    
reference  to   Egegik  versus   Igiugig  in   Ms.  Beechers                                                                    
discussion. He  asked if the  DMVA staff were  defense force                                                                    
folks. He mentioned the teacher  in Wales and was curious if                                                                    
the avenue  could be  explored since  there were  schools in                                                                    
every community.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Beecher repeated  the village name as  Egegik, where the                                                                    
division  had  deployed  two   individuals  from  DMVA.  She                                                                    
confirmed that  the individuals were  regular staff  and not                                                                    
any kind of military. She  relayed that the division had not                                                                    
explored  the  concept  of teachers  as  poll  workers.  She                                                                    
mentioned school hours.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard followed  up on Representative Stapp's                                                                    
remarks. She thought  it was great that the  DMVA staff were                                                                    
working.  She  mentioned  the  Alaska  State  Defense  Force                                                                    
(ASDF) as an alternative source of poll workers.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson   echoed  Representative   Allard's                                                                    
comment about  ASDF. She  asked if  there was  a prohibition                                                                    
against  having  a  cooperative   effort  with  other  state                                                                    
workers in the area.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Beecher  responded  that the  division  currently  used                                                                    
state workers to  work polls, and there  was no prohibition.                                                                    
The employees still  earned their daily rate  in addition to                                                                    
a poll worker hourly rate.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  referenced   the  proposed  community                                                                    
liaison  position, and  thought the  department was  looking                                                                    
for solutions.  He referenced  Section 57  of the  bill that                                                                    
spoke to doing  an evaluation and report  and considered how                                                                    
to get better responses  in rural communities and low-income                                                                    
neighborhoods.  He asked  Ms. Beecher  to  discuss what  the                                                                    
division was currently doing to  address the issue. He asked                                                                    
if the  division was currently  doing the  report referenced                                                                    
in Section 57.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:34:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Beecher  responded that  the  division  was looking  at                                                                    
innovative ideas  of how to  transmit election  results. She                                                                    
mentioned  the ability  to scan.  She  mentioned that  early                                                                    
voting ballots were not tallied  until election night, which                                                                    
was only  possible with the  ability to scan.  She mentioned                                                                    
bandwidth and staffing issues.  The division was considering                                                                    
Starlink and other ideas that  might be a great solution for                                                                    
far-flung communities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Bynum  discussed   the  issue   of  getting                                                                    
volunteers. He asked what the  department's primary role was                                                                    
in trying  to get  volunteers and get  ahead of  the problem                                                                    
before the next election.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Beecher  responded   that  traditionally  the  division                                                                    
called on people that had  worked the previous election, who                                                                    
in turn  contacted others to  be poll workers.  The division                                                                    
scheduled   training   throughout   the  summer   in   rural                                                                    
precincts.  The poll  workers  were  normally scheduled  for                                                                    
working  the primary  and general  elections (and  sometimes                                                                    
REAA elections)  in the  summer. The  division had  found it                                                                    
difficult to  get the workers  since the  Covid-19 pandemic,                                                                    
as many  had been  retired or  older individuals.  She noted                                                                    
that struggling  to find  poll workers  was not  isolated to                                                                    
rural communities.  She relayed  that the division  would be                                                                    
expanding the  notification that  the division  were looking                                                                    
for  poll  workers and  not  just  leaving  it to  the  poll                                                                    
workers to  try to find  people. She mentioned  using social                                                                    
media.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:39:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan asked if  she could expand on training                                                                    
for poll  workers in summer.  She asked about the  length of                                                                    
the  training  and  considered the  complexity  involved  in                                                                    
volunteering for the polls.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Beecher responded  that in  areas  like Anchorage,  the                                                                    
training  was  usually  a four-hour  block.  Depending  upon                                                                    
duties assigned,  some workers would receive  extra training                                                                    
blocks.  Training for  rural  areas  also included  separate                                                                    
training  for  bilingual  outreach. Rural  areas  often  had                                                                    
training  that lasted  a full  day or  day and  a half.  The                                                                    
division had done  a workshop for handling  the tablets that                                                                    
handled other  languages. The training was  only every other                                                                    
year and was comprehensive.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan    asked   about    the   division's                                                                    
positioning of DMVA employees to  go out to rural areas. She                                                                    
asked if  there was  separate training  or if  the employees                                                                    
took the same training as other poll workers.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Beecher  was not certain  and offered to follow  up. She                                                                    
noted  that there  was online  training available  and there                                                                    
was some training that could only happen in person.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:43:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster spoke  to the  value of  the rural  liaison                                                                    
position  proposed  in  the bill.  He  discussed  events  on                                                                    
election day and observed that  over the past two elections,                                                                    
it  was clear  how challenging  things could  get. He  noted                                                                    
that  Nome  alone  covered  a   huge  geographic  swath.  He                                                                    
emphasized  that there  were over  200 small  communities in                                                                    
the state. He contemplated that  if four or five communities                                                                    
in the state had an issue  on election day, it would be nice                                                                    
to  have  someone  there  to ensure  the  process  was  done                                                                    
securely. He referenced  the day Wales had  issues, when the                                                                    
weather had been challenging. He  thought the position would                                                                    
be helpful.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum thought  creating the  rural community                                                                    
liaison  position  was a  reasonable  position  to have.  He                                                                    
asked if the  person was expected to  be effectively readily                                                                    
available to  do all  the technical  correspondence involved                                                                    
with an  election. He knew that  communications capabilities                                                                    
had been expanded  in the recent decade  and mentioned fiber                                                                    
and low orbit satellite connections.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Beecher  responded  that  the  division  currently  had                                                                    
technical people  who were very familiar  with the equipment                                                                    
in hubs, and were available  for phone calls to troubleshoot                                                                    
machinery. The employees tended to  be very busy on election                                                                    
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  pondered  the  technical  aspects  of                                                                    
election  day and  wondered if  the  department was  readily                                                                    
available   to  answer   technical   questions  from   rural                                                                    
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:47:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Beecher responded that the  current process was that the                                                                    
poll  workers  were  in   communication  with  the  division                                                                    
frequently leading up  to the election. When  there had been                                                                    
any kind of problem, workers  called into their region where                                                                    
there  were people  answering phones  to address  questions.                                                                    
The division  had not fleshed  out all  the responsibilities                                                                    
of the  proposed liaison position, but  she anticipated that                                                                    
the person would  be made available as part of  the group of                                                                    
people available for technical questions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie  asked when the division  of elections                                                                    
was  last  sued  for  violating the  Voting  Rights  Act  in                                                                    
relation to language assistance for indigenous voters.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Beecher responded  that the  last lawsuit  was in  2012                                                                    
[Toyukak  v.   Dahlstrom  was  a  was   voting  rights  case                                                                    
successfully brought against the state in 2013].                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie  asked what adjustments were  made due                                                                    
to the outcome of the case.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. Beecher  relayed that  as a result  of the  lawsuit, the                                                                    
state  was  in  continuing settlement.  She  described  that                                                                    
every couple  of years the  division went back to  the court                                                                    
to see if  there were changes or updates  to the settlement.                                                                    
She described that the settlement  was very prescriptive and                                                                    
had many  defined requirements for the  division with regard                                                                    
to provision for the Yupik language and dialects.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie  asked if  the settlement  remained in                                                                    
effect past 2026.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Beecher answered affirmatively and  noted that it was an                                                                    
ongoing settlement.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:50:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster relayed that there  was another meeting at 9                                                                    
o'clock, and the committee would be adjourning soon.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  referenced  Section 18  of  the  bill                                                                    
which addressed informing voters  of language assistance. He                                                                    
asked  about  accessibility   of  language  information  and                                                                    
ballot information  and asked what kind  of coordination the                                                                    
division  was engaging  in  with  villages and  specifically                                                                    
with  tribes. He  wondered what  kind  of communication  the                                                                    
division was having with the tribes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Beecher responded that as  a result of the Toyukak case,                                                                    
the division had  a language program with  a coordinator and                                                                    
translator. The  division was  in the  process of  hiring an                                                                    
outreach coordinator  in the  language management  group. In                                                                    
relation to  tribes and municipalities under  the settlement                                                                    
umbrella,  the division  reached  out  to find  translators.                                                                    
Without recommendations from  the tribes and municipalities,                                                                    
the  division  reached out  further  to  colleges and  other                                                                    
communities.  She shared  that the  process was  year-round.                                                                    
The division  had a glossary  of the various  Yupik dialects                                                                    
and worked to make it clearer  over time. She noted that for                                                                    
an election year, initiatives had  to be translated, and the                                                                    
official election  pamphlet had to be  translated. She noted                                                                    
that the election for 2024  was only translated into Bristol                                                                    
Bay Yupik and Central  Yupik. She expressed appreciation for                                                                    
the  enormous  amount  of labor  the  translators  did.  She                                                                    
relayed  that there  was continuing  communication with  the                                                                    
tribes in many  ways. The materials were sent  to tribes and                                                                    
communication was ongoing.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum contemplated  the legislature providing                                                                    
money for  the division and  complying with federal  law. He                                                                    
asked if  the division  was able to  articulate what  it was                                                                    
doing to  comply with federal  law, who it  was coordinating                                                                    
with at the  tribes, what feedback the  division was getting                                                                    
from the process, and what other resources were needed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:55:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Beecher responded  that the  division  was required  to                                                                    
provide  a court  report as  part of  the settlement.  Every                                                                    
year  the  division   complied  documentation  of  different                                                                    
outreaches  and  responses.  She thought  the  report  might                                                                    
address Representative Bynum's  question about tracking what                                                                    
the division was  doing with the language  program and case.                                                                    
She  clarified that  the division  did not  provide a  court                                                                    
report pertaining  to the other languages  including Inupiaq                                                                    
and Tagalog.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Bynum   asked   if   the   department   had                                                                    
communication from the tribes  and the communities regarding                                                                    
requests and  issues. He thought the  department was working                                                                    
on issues it  was trying to solve. He  wondered about issues                                                                    
or concerns raised by tribes or communities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Beecher responded  that the  division sent  out surveys                                                                    
and took the information that  was received in response. She                                                                    
had  not  heard  back concerning  complaints  regarding  the                                                                    
languages.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 64(FIN) am was HEARD  and HELD in committee for further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  reviewed  the  agenda  for  the  following                                                                    
meeting.