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05/12/2025 09:00 AM House FINANCE

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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       May 12, 2025                                                                                             
                         9:09 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:09:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                      
to order at 9:09 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Jamie Allard                                                                                                     
Representative Jeremy Bynum                                                                                                     
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Nellie Unangiq Jimmie                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ky Holland, Sponsor; Cameron Ebersold,                                                                           
Staff, Representative Ky Holland.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Jacqueline Summers, Executive Director, Health Testbed                                                                          
Innovative Enterprises, Anchorage.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 30     OFFICE OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          HB 30 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 34     AK INNOVATION COUNCIL                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          HB 30 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 64     ELECTIONS                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          SB 64 was SCHEDULED but not HEARD.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 30                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act establishing  the office  of entrepreneurship;                                                                    
     relating to  new businesses in  the state;  relating to                                                                    
     reports  concerning   procurements  by   agencies;  and                                                                    
     relating  to  initial  business license  fees  for  new                                                                    
     businesses in the state."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:11:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KY  HOLLAND, SPONSOR, explained that  both HB
30  and  HB   34  were  intended  to  begin   and  expand  a                                                                    
conversation   on  diversifying   the  economy,   supporting                                                                    
emerging  sectors,  and  aligning  state  actions  with  the                                                                    
vision,  plans,  and  recommendations.  He  noted  that  the                                                                    
recommendations    were   already    articulated   in    the                                                                    
Comprehensive Economic Development  Strategy (CEDS) [created                                                                    
by  the  Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and  Economic                                                                    
Development   (DCCED)]  and   other   similar  reports.   He                                                                    
explained that the  purpose was to establish  a framework by                                                                    
which strategies could be developed  and plans supported, as                                                                    
well as to strengthen the existing economic ecosystem.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holland stated that  HB 30 created the Office                                                                    
of Entrepreneurship  and was modeled after  efforts in other                                                                    
states  that  recognized the  role  of  state government  in                                                                    
fostering and supporting startups.  The bill required that a                                                                    
small 5 percent portion  of the state's economic development                                                                    
investments  be directed  specifically  toward startups.  He                                                                    
explained  that a  past version  of the  bill also  required                                                                    
that an  impact study be  conducted to determine  the extent                                                                    
to which  businesses younger than five  years were accessing                                                                    
state contracts  and opportunities. However, he  intended to                                                                    
eliminate  the reporting  requirement  and its  accompanying                                                                    
fiscal note  after receiving negative community  feedback on                                                                    
the requirement.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holland  emphasized that the overall  goal of                                                                    
HB 30  was to ensure  that DCCED provided renewed  focus and                                                                    
support for  startups. He stated  that ten years  prior, the                                                                    
department had operated with approximately  $2 million and a                                                                    
number of  staff dedicated to economic  development, but the                                                                    
resources  had since  been  reallocated  or eliminated.  The                                                                    
state's  current  allocation  for economic  development  was                                                                    
zero dollars, which  meant that Alaska was  not investing in                                                                    
emerging sectors. He explained that  HB 30 was an attempt to                                                                    
restore  modest  support. The  bill  carried  a fiscal  note                                                                    
(copy on  file) for a  small number of staff  positions, but                                                                    
the positions already existed and  were vacant. He clarified                                                                    
that the  positions were  transferred to  the Office  of the                                                                    
Governor and remained unfilled.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holland  stated  that he  stood  behind  the                                                                    
fiscal  note and  stressed the  importance  of investing  in                                                                    
Alaska's future economy and  job opportunities. He explained                                                                    
that  the  bill  was  intended to  re-engage  the  state  in                                                                    
creating  opportunities  that  would encourage  families  to                                                                    
remain in Alaska and give  students reasons to be optimistic                                                                    
about  their  future  in  the   state.  He  noted  that  Ms.                                                                    
Jacqueline  Summers   was  available  online   if  committee                                                                    
members had more detailed questions.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:15:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard stated  that she  needed to  step out                                                                    
for a  meeting and emphasized  that she did not  want anyone                                                                    
to interpret her departure as  rudeness. She would return as                                                                    
soon as the other meeting concluded.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  explained   that  individuals  wishing  to                                                                    
provide written testimony  on HB 30 could do  so by emailing                                                                    
the House Finance Committee.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:16:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JACQUELINE  SUMMERS,  EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR,  HEALTH  TESTBED                                                                    
INNOVATIVE  ENTERPRISES,   ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
indicated  that   she  supported   Representative  Holland's                                                                    
statements.  She  shared  that  she had  been  conducting  a                                                                    
series  of informal  interviews and  her research  confirmed                                                                    
that   entrepreneurship   played   an  important   role   in                                                                    
developing  new ideas  and solving  problems in  Alaska. She                                                                    
noted  that entrepreneurs  often became  business owners  by                                                                    
accident  and  needed support  to  succeed.  She added  that                                                                    
without assistance,  entrepreneurs frequently  made mistakes                                                                    
that jeopardized  their success.  She emphasized that  HB 30                                                                    
and  HB 34  were important  for supporting  entrepreneurship                                                                    
efforts. She  expressed her strong  support for  both bills.                                                                    
She   indicated  that   she  would   remain  available   for                                                                    
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:17:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked Representative Holland  to clarify                                                                    
whether  the amendment  he intended  to propose  would leave                                                                    
the  bill unchanged  except for  striking the  annual report                                                                    
requirement on page 4.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holland  responded  in the  affirmative.  He                                                                    
deferred to his staff for additional detail.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAMERON   EBERSOLD,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   KY   HOLLAND,                                                                    
explained  that the  bill contained  two separate  reporting                                                                    
requirements. The  first was a procurement  report conducted                                                                    
by  the Department  of  Administration  (DOA). As  currently                                                                    
written,  the  bill  required  the  department  to  identify                                                                    
whether businesses less  than five years old  in Alaska were                                                                    
receiving  procurement contracts.  The  provision carried  a                                                                    
fiscal  note   of  $500,000  [FN1   by  DOA,   control  code                                                                    
Ztaay](copy  on  file)  for   an  impact  study,  which  the                                                                    
possible  amendment would  remove.  The  second report  that                                                                    
examined  how  legislation  affected  new  businesses  would                                                                    
remain unchanged.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  expressed  support for  the  concept                                                                    
behind HB 30.  She agreed that Alaska needed  to explore new                                                                    
types of  revenue sources. She  noted that other  states had                                                                    
invested strategically  in order  to generate  greater long-                                                                    
term returns and she thought  that Alaska needed to follow a                                                                    
similar  model. She  reminded the  committee that  the state                                                                    
was expected to experience reduced  revenue from oil and gas                                                                    
over  the  next  three  to four  years  because  of  ongoing                                                                    
investment  in growth.  She emphasized  that the  state must                                                                    
consider  innovative  approaches  to diversify  its  revenue                                                                    
base.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  recommended  that  if  Representative                                                                    
Holland intended  to introduce  an amendment,  the committee                                                                    
should  instead  consider  adopting a  committee  substitute                                                                    
(CS).                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  agreed that  the suggestion  was reasonable                                                                    
and that the change would be easy to incorporate.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holland  noted there had been  questions from                                                                    
members during a previous committee  meeting and he had made                                                                    
a document available earlier that  day (copy on file)[titled                                                                    
"HB  30 HFIN  questions"]  that he  hoped  had answered  the                                                                    
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster set  an amendment  deadline for  HB 30  for                                                                    
Thursday, May  15, 2025, at 5:00  p.m. He noted that  it was                                                                    
likely that the committee would consider a CS for the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:23:02 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:24:08 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster relayed  that  the  committee would  likely                                                                    
incorporate  the   amendment  into  the  bill   rather  than                                                                    
considering a CS.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  observed that subsections (4),  (5), and                                                                    
(6) of the  bill were being repealed, but when  he looked at                                                                    
the 2024  version of the  statutes, the subsections  did not                                                                    
appear  to exist.  He  commented that  the  matter could  be                                                                    
addressed offline but asked  if Representative Holland could                                                                    
clarify.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ebersold asked  Co-Chair Josephson  if he  could repeat                                                                    
the question.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  clarified that  the bill repealed  a law                                                                    
on page  4, he did  not see the  laws being repealed  in the                                                                    
2024  version   of  the  statutes.  He   observed  that  the                                                                    
subsections were added  on page 2 of the  bill. He suggested                                                                    
that he might be missing something.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ebersold  responded that the  subsections were  added by                                                                    
the bill.  He explained  that the  House Labor  and Commerce                                                                    
Committee  had  introduced  and adopted  an  amendment  that                                                                    
sunset the program  after five years. He  explained that the                                                                    
sections being  repealed were the same  sections being added                                                                    
in   Section   3,   which    established   the   Office   of                                                                    
Entrepreneurship.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HB  30  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 34                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act establishing the Alaska Innovation Council;                                                                        
     and relating to financial disclosures for members of                                                                       
     the Alaska Innovation Council."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:26:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Holland  explained   that  HB   34  was   a                                                                    
macroeconomic bill.  He remarked that  HB 30 focused  on the                                                                    
success of  individuals, their ability to  access resources,                                                                    
and their potential to grow  and expand businesses and their                                                                    
impact   in  Alaska,   while  HB   34  provided   a  broader                                                                    
perspective  by establishing  the Alaska  Innovation Council                                                                    
(AIC). He relayed that the  council would bring together key                                                                    
leadership across  the state, including the  university, the                                                                    
State  of  Alaska,   entrepreneurs,  industry  leaders,  and                                                                    
providers  of  risk  capital.  The  economic  leaders  would                                                                    
collaborate to identify  strategic opportunities for Alaska,                                                                    
determine the  unique areas where  Alaska had  the potential                                                                    
to grow,  and establish the policies  and programs necessary                                                                    
to support diversification of the  economy and the growth of                                                                    
emerging sectors.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holland  emphasized that  initiatives already                                                                    
identified  as   priorities  included   energy,  technology,                                                                    
mariculture,  logistics, and  unmanned  aerial vehicles.  He                                                                    
asserted that  the priority areas represented  the future of                                                                    
Alaska's  economy  and  required   support  to  develop  and                                                                    
expand. He  noted that over  the past ten years,  89 percent                                                                    
of net new  job creation had come from  businesses less than                                                                    
five years old.  He stressed the importance  of creating new                                                                    
jobs  in  emerging  industries   that  would  attract  young                                                                    
workers  and would  provide the  foundation for  the state's                                                                    
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Holland    clarified   that    traditional                                                                    
industries  such  as  oil,  gas,  and  mining  would  remain                                                                    
essential  components  of   the  state's  economy.  However,                                                                    
growth would  come from emerging  sectors identified  in the                                                                    
state's  economic  development  strategy. He  remarked  that                                                                    
Alaska   needed  to   position  itself   where  the   future                                                                    
opportunities lay, while continuing  to invest in its legacy                                                                    
economic  engines. He  stated that  AIC would  serve as  the                                                                    
convening  body to  bring together  both public  and private                                                                    
leadership  and  resources   to  identify,  prioritize,  and                                                                    
implement actions that would move the state forward.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holland  explained that the bill  was modeled                                                                    
after  the  Oregon  Innovation  Council,  which  began  with                                                                    
similar  legislation to  create  convening  power. He  added                                                                    
that  Oregon  had leveraged  the  council  into an  economic                                                                    
driver that  fostered significant growth. He  noted that the                                                                    
model  followed examples  in Alberta  and  Calgary, where  a                                                                    
decline caused  by the loss of  35 percent of oil,  gas, and                                                                    
mining workforce and leadership  had been reversed through a                                                                    
strategy    of    identifying   innovation    opportunities,                                                                    
partnering with universities, and  aligning local talent. He                                                                    
remarked  that  Calgary  had transformed  into  an  economic                                                                    
leader in North America.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Holland  compared   Alberta's  economy   to                                                                    
Alaska's,  noting that  both were  remote  and dependent  on                                                                    
natural resources.  He explained  that Alberta had  built on                                                                    
its resource base to create  a future economy and had become                                                                    
a model  for innovation,  entrepreneurship, job  growth, and                                                                    
new business creation. He hoped  to build a similar model in                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:31:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster OPENED  public testimony.  He asked  if Ms.                                                                    
Summers wished to provide testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:31:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Summers   remarked  that  there  was   an  unbelievable                                                                    
opportunity to look at the  future for Alaska, but a guiding                                                                    
group was  needed to lead  the work. She observed  that many                                                                    
efforts were underway in the  state but the efforts were not                                                                    
coordinated or  aligned toward a  common goal.  She asserted                                                                    
that  the  council  would  be  instrumental  in  avoiding  a                                                                    
"scattershot"  approach and  would enable  a focused  effort                                                                    
that  could gain  traction and  succeed. She  reiterated her                                                                    
support for the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster  thanked   Ms.  Summers   and  asked   for                                                                    
confirmation that  she served as  the executive  director of                                                                    
the Health Testbed Innovation Enterprises in Anchorage.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Summers responded in the  affirmative and added that she                                                                    
also conducted consulting work.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:33:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin   understood  that   several  similar                                                                    
organizations   and   federal  programs   already   existed,                                                                    
including  the federal  Small  Business Innovation  Research                                                                    
Program  and the  U.S. Economic  Development Administration.                                                                    
She  asked  how AIC  would  work  with federal  entities  to                                                                    
ensure  that  the  efforts were  complementary  rather  than                                                                    
duplicative.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holland responded  that the two organizations                                                                    
referenced by  Representative Galvin  were among a  dozen or                                                                    
more similar  entities. He noted  that each  program carried                                                                    
out important work but the  essential piece that was missing                                                                    
was the convening ability to  bring all of the organizations                                                                    
into the  same room.  He stressed that  it was  essential to                                                                    
link  and  leverage  the programs.  He  explained  that  the                                                                    
strength  of a  startup ecosystem  came from  helping people                                                                    
identify the next relevant program  or step and guiding them                                                                    
through  the process.  He stated  that building  an economic                                                                    
ecosystem was different from replicating existing work.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holland  relayed that  there were  no current                                                                    
efforts to  convene the organizations. He  compared the need                                                                    
to  convene  the organizations  to  a  similar need  at  the                                                                    
Alaska Workforce  Investment Board (AWIB), which  linked and                                                                    
leveraged  individual  workforce   development  efforts.  He                                                                    
emphasized that connecting  the development efforts provided                                                                    
pathways  for  students  moving from  high  school  to  dual                                                                    
credit,  into post-secondary  training, and  for those  with                                                                    
apprenticeship or  military training who sought  to complete                                                                    
degrees.  He  asserted that  the  same  type of  coordinated                                                                    
pathway was  needed for business development.  He added that                                                                    
several programs were  in danger due to lack  of funding and                                                                    
could  be  lost  soon.  He   remarked  that  while  avoiding                                                                    
duplication was  important, the more  urgent matter  was the                                                                    
strategic discussion of what would happen if the essential                                                                      
programs disappeared.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster set an amendment deadline for HB 34 for                                                                         
Thursday, May 15, 2025, at 5:00 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HB 34 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:39:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the meeting agenda for the                                                                             
afternoon.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:39:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:39 a.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 30 HFIN questions 051225.pdf HFIN 5/12/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB 30 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051225.pdf HFIN 5/12/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 30