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03/20/2024 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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+= SB 60 REPEAL WORKERS' COMP APPEALS COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <2 Minute Time Limit> --
+ HJR 3 CONCEALED HANDGUN RECIPROCITY B/W STATES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 134 INS. DATA SECURITY; INFO. SECURITY PRGRMS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
<Bill Hearing Rescheduled from 03/18/24>
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
         SB  60-REPEAL WORKERS' COMP APPEALS COMMISSION                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:31:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 60                                                               
"An Act  repealing the Workers' Compensation  Appeals Commission;                                                               
relating  to decisions  and orders  of the  Workers' Compensation                                                               
Appeals Commission; relating to  superior court jurisdiction over                                                               
appeals  from  Alaska   Workers'  Compensation  Board  decisions;                                                               
repealing  Rules  201.1,  401.1,   and  501.1,  Alaska  Rules  of                                                               
Appellate  Procedure, and  amending Rules  202(a), 204(a)  - (c),                                                               
210(e),  601(b), 602(c)  and  (h), and  603(a),  Alaska Rules  of                                                               
Appellate Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:32:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN opened public testimony on SB 60.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:33:09 PM                                                                                                                    
ANDY HEMENWAY,  representing self,  Juneau, Alaska,  testified in                                                               
opposition to  SB 60. He stated  that he retired as  chair of the                                                               
Alaska  Workers  Compensation  Appeals  Commission  in  2016  and                                                               
testifies today in a personal capacity. He addressed two points:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commission Rulings Have the Force of Legal Precedent                                                                          
MR.  HEMENWAY  explained  that  prior  to  the  creation  of  the                                                               
Commission,  appeals from  the Workers'  Compensation Board  were                                                               
heard by the Superior Court.  Superior Court rulings did not have                                                               
the  force  of  legal  precedent, meaning  the  Board,  insurance                                                               
companies,  or an  attorney  representing  injured workers  could                                                               
disregard  a legal  ruling with  which they  disagreed in  future                                                               
cases.  Moreover,   other  Superior   Court  judges   could  rule                                                               
differently  in  future  cases, leading  to  uncertainty  in  the                                                               
application of  rules. He stated  that the  legislature addressed                                                               
this  uncertainty by  creating the  Commission  and directing  by                                                               
statute  that  Commission  decisions  have  the  force  of  legal                                                               
precedent.  This meant  the Board,  insurance companies,  workers                                                               
and their  attorneys could rely on  clear rules and plan  and act                                                               
accordingly. He stated that if the  parties to a case do not like                                                               
the Commission    ruling, they may  appeal to the  Alaska Supreme                                                               
Court.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HEMENWAY underscored that  because the Commission's decisions                                                               
create binding  precedent, it is especially  important that these                                                               
decisions  are  the  product  of   a  body  with  experience  and                                                               
expertise in  workers  compensation  law. Legal expertise  on the                                                               
part of  the chair and  practical experience  on the part  of the                                                               
lay members  of the Commission,  by statute, must have  served on                                                               
the Workers Compensation Board.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commission Caseload Numbers                                                                                                   
MR.  HEMENWAY   acknowledged  a  decline  in   cases  before  the                                                               
Commission  in the  last three  years.  He attributed  this to  a                                                               
corresponding  drop   in  the  number  of   claims  filed,  which                                                               
inevitably led to  fewer cases before the  Board and, eventually,                                                               
fewer appeals  to the  Commission. He surmised  that the  drop is                                                               
related to the  COVID-19 pandemic. He expects that  the number of                                                               
appeals will rise.  He stated that six appeals  have already been                                                               
filed  this year,  which is  equivalent to  past normal  caseload                                                               
numbers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:36:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL   BUDZINSKI,   representing  self,   Anchorage,   Alaska,                                                               
testified  in opposition  to  SB  60. He  stated  that  he is  an                                                               
attorney who has  practiced in the area  of workers' compensation                                                               
for  over  40  years.  He  practiced when  appeals  went  to  the                                                               
Superior   Court   and,   afterward,  in   2005,   when   appeals                                                               
transitioned to the Commission.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUDZINSKI expressed  his view  that  the current  structure,                                                               
which  involves the  Commission,  is far  better  than the  prior                                                               
structure when appeals  went to the Superior Court.  He said this                                                               
is  due,  in  large  part, to  the  requirement  that  Commission                                                               
members have  experience in workers' compensation;  they are very                                                               
knowledgeable.  When appearing  before the  Commission, attorneys                                                               
can  use technical  shorthand and  legal  acronyms, knowing  that                                                               
Commission members are familiar  with the terminology and subject                                                               
matter. This  is a huge  advantage. He emphasized  the importance                                                               
of  Commission  decisions,  which have  precedential  value,  and                                                               
noted a recent experience in  which the Commission pushed back on                                                               
legal  issues raised  by the  Alaska Supreme  Court. He  believes                                                               
this  type  of exchange  strengthens  the  process and  yields  a                                                               
better legal  result because there  is give and take  between the                                                               
different bodies.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUDZINSKI   expressed  his   belief  that   maintaining  the                                                               
Commission is  the wisest  choice. He  concluded by  stating that                                                               
the creation  of the  Commission in 2005  was necessary,  and the                                                               
reasons for its existence remain valid to this today.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:37:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CLAMAN asked  if he  worked primarily  on the  employer or                                                               
employee side of workers' compensation proceedings.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUDZINSKI replied, the employer side.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:37:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  said  that  he  is intrigued  to  hear  that  the                                                               
Commission pushed back against the  Alaska Supreme Court (ASC) on                                                               
legal matters and asked for details about this.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUDZINSKI  replied that  the issue of  attorney fee  rates is                                                               
still before  the Alaska Supreme  Court. He explained  that there                                                               
was  an attempt  to increase  the hourly  rate paid  to attorneys                                                               
representing injured  workers from  the typical  range of  $400 -                                                               
$450 per  hour to between  $600 -  $900 per hour.  The Commission                                                               
awarded $450  per hour  for an appeal,  consistent with  its past                                                               
practice. That decision was appealed  to the Supreme Court, which                                                               
responded that  a higher  rate was  appropriate and  remanded the                                                               
case to the Commission for reconsideration.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUDZINSKI  said  the   Commission  declined  to  reconsider,                                                               
maintaining its original  decision. The matter is  now before the                                                               
Supreme   Court  again.   He   expressed  his   view  that   this                                                               
demonstrated legal  courage on the  part of the  Commission. This                                                               
matter is  important to concerned  employers who may  be required                                                               
to pay higher rates for attorneys representing injured workers.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:39:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL expressed his appreciation  for the information and                                                               
remarked  that he  may need  to learn  more about  the issue.  He                                                               
observed that  if employers  seek a  standard different  from the                                                               
standard in  the law as  interpreted by the Supreme  Court, those                                                               
employers  should speak  to the  legislature. He  stated that  he                                                               
found the situation troubling.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUDZINSKI  responded that may  happen; employers may  need to                                                               
approach the legislature for relief.  It is a statutory system so                                                               
the legislature decides these matters.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:39:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  commented on  an unrelated  matter, noting  that he                                                               
found   it  interesting   that,  in   other  issues   before  the                                                               
legislature,  the  executive  branch appears  comfortable  paying                                                               
outside   attorneys  between   $600   and  $900   per  hour   for                                                               
representation  in statehood  defense  claims.  He remarked  that                                                               
while he was  once troubled by such high rates,  they now seem to                                                               
have become relatively normalized.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUDZINSKI  said that the  Supreme Court awarded the  rate, it                                                               
was not  done at the  Board level.  The issue became  whether the                                                               
Commission  should  adopt  that   rate.  The  Commission  decided                                                               
against adopting that rate.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked whether  this was  a published  Supreme Court                                                               
decision.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUDZINSKI  replied yes but noted  that it is on  appeal again                                                               
and remains ongoing.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked whether this  was the first case published and                                                               
remanded to the Commission on the issue.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUDZINSKI  confirmed and  stated that  the case  involves two                                                               
injured workers,  with the  first named  Rusch. The  employer was                                                               
Southeast Alaska Regional Health [Consortium] (SEARHC).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:41:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN closed public testimony on SB 60.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN held SB 60 in committee.                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR 3 Version B 2.1.2023.PDF SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 3
HJR 3 Version S 2.20.2023.PDF SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 3
HJR 3 Sponsor Statement 2.12.2024.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 3
HJR 3 Summary of Changes between Ver B and Ver S 2.21.2024.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 3
HJR 3 Fiscal Note 2.20.2023.PDF SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 3
HJR 3 Supporting Document - Need for Conceal and Carry Reciprocity 3.6.2021.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 3
HJR 3 Supporting Document 117th Congress House Resolution 38 1.4.2021.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 3
HJR 3 Supporting Document DPS 4.24.2023.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 3
HJR 3 Supporting Document - CCW Application 4.24.2023.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 3
SB 134 Sponsor Statement Version B 1.31.24.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 134
SB 134 Sectional Analysis Version B 1.31.24.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 134
SB 134 Version B 4.17.23.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 134
SB 134 Fiscal Note DCCED 2.2.24.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 134
SB 134 Supporting Document - State Map 1.23.2024.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 134
SB 134 Supporting Document - NAIC Brief June 2021.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 134
SB 60 Letter of Opposition - Fairbanks Chamber of Commerce 4.4.2023.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 Letters of Support Receieved as of 3.20.2024.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 Oppositing Testimony - Andy Hemenway.pdf SJUD 3/20/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 60