Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/09/2024 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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+ SB 60 REPEAL WORKERS' COMP APPEALS COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
<Time Limit May Be Set>
+ SB 182 EXTEND BIG GAME COMM SERVICES BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
<Time Limit May Be Set>
+ SJR 15 CONST. AM: VOTES NEEDED FOR VETO OVERRIDE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 60                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act repealing  the  Workers' Compensation  Appeals                                                                    
     Commission;  relating to  decisions and  orders of  the                                                                    
     Workers' Compensation  Appeals Commission;  relating to                                                                    
     superior  court jurisdiction  over appeals  from Alaska                                                                    
     Workers' Compensation Board  decisions; repealing Rules                                                                    
     201.1,  401.1, and  501.1,  Alaska  Rules of  Appellate                                                                    
     Procedure,  and amending  Rules 202(a),  204(a) -  (c),                                                                    
     210(e),  601(b), 602(c)  and  (h),  and 603(a),  Alaska                                                                    
     Rules  of Appellate  Procedure;  and  providing for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:03:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   BILL   WIELECHOWSKI,   SPONSOR,   introduced   the                                                                    
legislation. He referred to the Sponsor Statement (copy on                                                                      
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill 60 would save  $482,400 per year, remove an                                                                    
     unnecessary  bureaucracy,  and make  Alaska's  Workers'                                                                    
     Compensation program more  sustainable by repealing the                                                                    
     Alaska   Workers'   Compensation  Appeals   Commission.                                                                    
     Passing SB 60 will  return jurisdiction over appeals of                                                                    
     Workers' Compensation  Board decisions to  the Superior                                                                    
     Court. Currently  the Appeals Commission  handles these                                                                    
     cases  and  their  decisions can  be  appealed  to  the                                                                    
     Supreme Court.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     For  decades,  the  Superior Court  had  handled  these                                                                    
     cases. Operating the  Appeals Commission costs $482,400                                                                    
     annually and  it currently has two  fulltime employees,                                                                    
     while  the Court  System has  testified  that they  can                                                                    
     handle  these  cases  with  their  current  budget  and                                                                    
     staffing levels. The  Appeals Commission's workload has                                                                    
     decreased considerably  since it  was created  in 2005.                                                                    
     In 2007, they  had 49 new cases filed  and published 42                                                                    
     decisions but  by 2022 they  only had 14 new  cases and                                                                    
     published only 5 decisions.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     In  2015,   the  House  Labor  and   Workforce  Finance                                                                    
     Subcommittee  found the  Appeals Commission  to be  "an                                                                    
     ineffective division" and that  "their closure rate and                                                                    
     average  time for  closure is  not demonstrably  better                                                                    
     than the  process was before  the establishment  of the                                                                    
     commission."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     This  bill would  create  a  transition period  between                                                                    
     June 1  and December  1, 2024 when  new cases  would be                                                                    
     filed  with   the  Superior  Court,  but   the  Appeals                                                                    
     Commission  would continue  to  handle  the cases  that                                                                    
     were already pending. On December  2, all pending cases                                                                    
     would  be transferred  to the  Superior  Court and  the                                                                    
     Appeals Commission  will be fully repealed  on December                                                                    
     31.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska's Workers' Compensation  regulation is funded by                                                                    
     service  fees collected  from  insurance providers  and                                                                    
     self-insurers. In Fiscal Year  2021 the state collected                                                                    
     $6.3  million in  fees and  the  Department of  Revenue                                                                    
     projects this will fall to  $5.8 million in FY 2024 and                                                                    
     $5.6 million in FY  2025. Given Alaska's budget deficit                                                                    
     and this declining revenue, we  simply cannot afford to                                                                    
     spend $482,400  to operate  a separate  commission when                                                                    
    the courts are well equipped to handle these cases.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson noted  that  the superior  court  was not  a                                                                    
court of appeals, but rather a trial court.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  replied that the cases  would be heard                                                                    
by the  Worker Compensation  hearing officer, and  an appeal                                                                    
would be heard by the superior court.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:06:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID DUNSMORE,  STAFF, SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI,  discussed the                                                                    
presentation, "Senate Bill  60, Repeal Workers' Compensation                                                                    
Appeals Commission" (copy  on file). He pointed  to slide 2,                                                                    
"Senate                       Bill                      60":                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Repeals  the   Alaska  Workers'   Compensation  Appeals                                                                    
     Commission                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Returns   jurisdiction   over   Workers'   Compensation                                                                    
     appeals to the Superior Court                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Saves $482,400 per year                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Helps  fill the  Workers'  Compensation budget  deficit                                                                    
     and  make Alaska's  Workers'  Compensation system  more                                                                    
     solvent                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dunsmore addressed slide 4, " SB 60 Will Save $482,400                                                                      
Per Year":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Currently the Commission has 2                                                                                             
     full-time employees and pays for                                                                                           
     commissioners' travel and per                                                                                              
     diem                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Previously, the Court System has                                                                                           
     testified that they can absorb                                                                                             
     these cases with a zero fiscal                                                                                             
     note                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dunsmore pointed to slide 5, " WCAC Workload has Fallen                                                                     
Dramatically":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The Workers'  Compensation Appeals  Commission workload                                                                    
     has  declined  from 49  cases  filed  and 42  published                                                                    
     decisions  in 2007  to 4  cases filed  and 5  decisions                                                                    
     issued in 2023.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dunsmore highlighted slide 6:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     "The  Worker's Compensation  Appeals  Commission is  an                                                                    
     ineffective   division?  The   Commission  during   the                                                                    
     calendar year  of 2013  closed 30  cases for  a closure                                                                    
     rate of 67 percent with  an average time from filing to                                                                    
     closure of seven months. This  closure rate and average                                                                    
     time for  closure is not  demonstrably better  than the                                                                    
     process   was   before   the   establishment   of   the                                                                    
     commission."                                                                                                               
     House  Department of  Labor  and Workforce  Development                                                                    
     Finance Subcommittee, February 25, 2015                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dunsmore looked at slide 7, " The Workers' Compensation                                                                     
Appeals Commission Has Not Closed Cases Faster than the                                                                         
Courts":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
             The Superior  Court took  "8 to  18 months"  to                                                                    
          decide Workers' Compensation Appeals.                                                                                 
            When it  was created, it was  estimated that the                                                                    
        Commission could decide cases in 6 months.                                                                              
             Instead, in  2018  it averaged  371 days  (12.2                                                                    
          months) to decide cases.                                                                                              
            Even  as their workload decreased,  in 2021 they                                                                    
          still  averaged 282  days (9.3  months) to  decide                                                                    
          cases.                                                                                                                
            More  Commission decisions  are appealed  to the                                                                    
          Supreme  Court,  adding  months  to  years  before                                                                    
          final resolution.                                                                                                     
               Sources:   Testimony    of   Paul   Lisankie,                                                                    
               Director, Division  of Workers' Compensation,                                                                    
               Senate  Labor and  Commerce Committee,  March                                                                    
               10, 2005.                                                                                                        
               Alaska    Workers'    Compensation    Appeals                                                                    
               Commission Annual Report for Calendar Year                                                                       
               2021.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:10:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dunsmore discussed slide 8, "SB 60 Will Reduce Appeals                                                                      
to the Supreme Court":                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     When the Superior Court handled appeals approximately                                                                      
     25 percent of their decisions were appealed to the                                                                         
     Supreme Court.                                                                                                             
     Since the Commission was created in 2005, 37 percent                                                                       
     of its decisions have been appealed to the Supreme                                                                         
     Court.                                                                                                                     
     Since 2011, 50 percent of Commission decisions have                                                                        
     been appealed.                                                                                                             
          Sources:     Testimony    of     Doug    Wooliver,                                                                    
          administrative  attorney,   Alaska  Court  System,                                                                    
          Senate  Labor and  Commerce  Committee, March  10,                                                                    
          2005.                                                                                                                 
          Legislative Research Services Report 24.077.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dunsmore looked at slide 9, "The Office of Management                                                                       
and Budget has identified potential staff turnover as a key                                                                     
component challenge":                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "The  WCAC is  challenged to  provide timely  decisions                                                                    
     and orders.  WCAC is supported  by two staff.  While no                                                                    
     immediate staff turnover  is anticipated, any attrition                                                                    
     could  result  in  less  support  for  the  commission,                                                                    
     making it  more difficult  to provide  timely decisions                                                                    
     and orders."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Dunsmore  addressed   slide  10,   "Alaska's  Workers'                                                                    
Compensation  and  Safety  Program Faces  a  Growing  Budget                                                                    
Deficit- SB 60 Will Help Fill It":                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
       Workers' Compensation and Safety  are funded by a tax                                                                    
     on Workers' Compensation payments                                                                                          
       Tax Revenue has  fallen significantly and is expected                                                                    
     to continue to decline.                                                                                                    
       Saving  $482,300 will help  close the  growing budget                                                                    
     gap.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dunsmore looked at slide 11, "Bottom Line":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     SB 60 saves $482,400 annually                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Preserves parties'  right to have their  cases heard in                                                                    
     timely manner                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Will reduce appeals to the Supreme Court                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Makes  Alaska's   Workers'  Compensation   system  more                                                                    
     solvent                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson wondered whether  there was opposition to the                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dunsmore replied that there  was some opposition in some                                                                    
previous committees from  the Workers Compensation Insurance                                                                    
industry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:13:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES    COLLINS,    DIRECTOR,   DIVISION    OF    WORKERS                                                                    
COMPENSATION,    DEPARTMENT   OF    LABOR   AND    WORKFORCE                                                                    
DEVELOPMENT,  introduced himself  and stated  that he  could                                                                    
answer questions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson noted that the  fiscal note showed a $236,000                                                                    
decrease in FY  25, and then later a  $473,000 decrease, and                                                                    
wondered whether those were accurate numbers.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Collins replied in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman wondered  whether  the appeals  commission                                                                    
would  create  a precedence,  and  whether  the court  would                                                                    
uphold that precedence.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:15:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Collins replied  that the  commission was  a precedent-                                                                    
setting panel,  so those decisions guided  the board panels.                                                                    
The Supreme Court, however, could overturn those decisions.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  surmised that the Department  of Labor and                                                                    
Workforce Development  (DLWD) would be neutral  on the bill,                                                                    
and whether the bill did any harm.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Collins  replied that  he felt  that the  commission was                                                                    
effective.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  wondered whether  there was  disagreement on                                                                    
the data on the presentation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Collins responded  that  he had  some  issues with  the                                                                    
timing. He  expressed concern about the  court absorbing the                                                                    
cost, especially when there was a controversial claim.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson asked whether the  commission had not had the                                                                    
decisions rendered within six months.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Collins  replied   there   were   many  factors   that                                                                    
contributed to the decisions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson wondered whether a  judge was involved in the                                                                    
decision.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Collins   responded  that   the  commissioner   was  an                                                                    
administrative law judge.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:20:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OPENED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:21:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI DRYGAS,  SELF, JUNEAU  (via teleconference),  spoke in                                                                    
support of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson queried a percentage of the reversed                                                                             
appeals.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Drygas did not have those specific numbers, but                                                                             
recalled that in 2017, it was more than 50 percent.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski stated that he did not have anything                                                                       
to add.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB 60 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:27:37 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:31:23 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 60 Research Legislative Finance Fund Source Report 2.6.2023.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SJUD 1/22/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 Research OMB Component Summary FY 2023.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 2/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 Research Revenue Sources Book-Excerpt Fall 2022.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 2/27/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 Letter of Support Alaska State Homebuilding Association.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60
SB 60 Sectional Analysis Version U.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60
SB 60 Letter of Support Americans for Tax Reform.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60
SB 60 Sponsor Statement Version U.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60
SB 60 Sponsor's PowerPoint.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60
SB 60 Summary of Changes A to U.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60
SB 60 Supporting Documents Legislative Research Chart 1.22.24.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60
SB 60 Supporting Documents WCAC Annual Report CY2022.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60
SB 60SB 60 Research House Labor and Workforce Development Finance Subcommittee Report 2.23.2015.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60
SB182 Public Testimony-Email-Michael Tinker-01.27.24.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 1/29/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 182
SB182 Public Testimony-Letter-SCI AK-01.29.24.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 1/29/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 182
SB182 Follow-Up from DCCED-CBPL 1.29.24.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 1/29/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 182
SB182 Supporting Documents-BGCSB Audit.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 1/22/2024 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 1/29/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 182
SB182 Sponsor Statement Ver A 1.17.2023.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 1/22/2024 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 1/29/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 182
SJR 15 Sectional Analysis version A 2.21.2024.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SSTA 2/29/2024 3:30:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR 15 Sponsor Statement version A 2.21.2024.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SSTA 2/29/2024 3:30:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR 15 Supporting Document - State Veto Overrides CSG Research Memo 2.23.24.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SJR 15
SB 60 OppositionLetterSJUD4-5-2024.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60
SB 60 AGC Opposition of - SB 60 HB63.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 63
SB 60
SB 60 Response to Senate Finance Committee Question 4.9.24.pdf SFIN 4/9/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 60