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05/08/2025 10:00 AM House FINANCE

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Moved CSSB 80(FIN) Out of Committee
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                        May 8, 2025                                                                                             
                        10:15 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:15:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 10:15 a.m.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Jamie Allard                                                                                                     
Representative Jeremy Bynum                                                                                                     
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Nellie Unangiq Jimmie                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Jesse   Bjorkman,  Sponsor;  Emily   Ricci,  Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner, Department of  Health; Kim Champney, Executive                                                                    
Director, Alaska Association  on Developmental Disabilities;                                                                    
Representative    Dan    Saddler;   Representative    Justin                                                                    
Ruffridge.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Kevin  Richard,  Director,  Alcohol  and  Marijuana  Control                                                                    
Office,  Anchorage; Phillip  Tafs,  Self, Anchorage;  Kermit                                                                    
Wilson,  Executive Director,  Advocacy Board,  Juneau; Jared                                                                    
Kosin,  President and  CEO, Alaska  Hospital and  Healthcare                                                                    
Association,  Anchorage;  Michelle   Baker,  Executive  Vice                                                                    
President,  Southcentral Foundation,  Anchorage; Kay  Riley,                                                                    
Self,  Juneau;  Kerry  Thomas,  Acting  Executive  Director,                                                                    
Alaska Commission on Post-Secondary Education, Juneau.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CSSB(FIN) 80                                                                                                                    
          EXTEND BOARDS                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          CSSB(FIN) 80  was REPORTED  out of  committee with                                                                    
          seven   "do   pass"   recommendations,   two   "no                                                                    
          recommendation"  recommendations, and  one "amend"                                                                    
          recommendation,   and    with   three   previously                                                                    
          published    fiscal   impact    notes:   FN1(CED),                                                                    
          FN2(CED), and FN3(DOH).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HB  73    COMPLEX CARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          HB 73 was HEARD and  HELD in committee for further                                                                    
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB  28    TEACHER/STATE EMPLOYEE STUDENT LOAN PRGRM                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          HB 28 was HEARD and  HELD in committee for further                                                                    
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 80(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act extending the termination  date of the Big Game                                                                    
     Commercial  Services Board;  extending the  termination                                                                    
     date of the Board  of Massage Therapists; extending the                                                                    
     termination  date of  the Alaska  Commission on  Aging;                                                                    
     extending  the   termination  date  of   the  Marijuana                                                                    
     Control Board; and providing for an effective date."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:16:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JESSE BJORKMAN, SPONSOR, introduced the bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked if anyone could discuss the letter                                                                        
included in the packet.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN RICHARD, DIRECTOR, ALCOHOL AND MARIJUANA CONTROL                                                                          
OFFICE, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), spoke to the                                                                            
letter.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard asked about  the personal services and                                                                    
the 10 full-time positions and one special investigator.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richard  responded that  work was not  passed on  to the                                                                    
Department of Public Safety (DPS).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Allard   asked   if   the   three   special                                                                    
investigators used to fall under the DPS umbrella.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:20:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Richard  responded   that  at   one  point   in  time,                                                                    
enforcement was  handled under the  DPS umbrella but  it was                                                                    
before his time.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard asked  whether and  why they  did not                                                                    
carry weapons anymore                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richard  responded that they  were generally  focused on                                                                    
enforcement and regulation and not arresting people.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  wanted to find  out for sure  if they                                                                    
could arrest and carry firearms.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bjorkman did  not have  a specific  answer, because                                                                    
the circumstances varied based on the scenario.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  relayed that her intent  was that law                                                                    
enforcement should use the full force  of the law to do what                                                                    
they needed to do.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:25:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Josephson  MOVED   to  REPORT   CSSB(FIN)80  from                                                                    
committee,   Work   Draft   34-LS0416\N,   with   individual                                                                    
recommendations and attached fiscal notes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CSSB(FIN) 80  was REPORTED out  of committee with  seven "do                                                                    
pass"     recommendations,    two     "no    recommendation"                                                                    
recommendations,  and one  "amend" recommendation,  and with                                                                    
three  previously published  fiscal impact  notes: FN1(CED),                                                                    
FN2(CED), and FN3(DOH).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 73                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to complex care residential homes;                                                                        
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:27:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
EMILY  RICCI,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF  HEALTH,                                                                    
reviewed HB 73.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:29:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:29:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KIM  CHAMPNEY,  EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ALASKA  ASSOCIATION  ON                                                                    
DEVELOPMENTAL   DISABILITIES,  spoke   in  support   of  the                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked about the  bed limit of  15 per                                                                    
home.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Champney responded that the  hope was to leave the limit                                                                    
as open ended as possible.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:35:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  stressed that  she wanted  to provide                                                                    
support for people with a wide range of needs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:38:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PHILLIP   TAFS,   SELF,  ANCHORAGE   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified in support of the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:41:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KERMIT  WILSON, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ADVOCACY  BOARD, JUNEAU                                                                    
(via teleconference), testified in support of the bill.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:43:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JARED  KOSIN,   PRESIDENT  AND  CEO,  ALASKA   HOSPITAL  AND                                                                    
HEALTHCARE  ASSOCIATION,   ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
stated that the association supported the bill.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked how many Alaskans  were waiting                                                                    
for a spot.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kosin responded  that they did not have  the data broken                                                                    
down to reasonably assess the number.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin asked if he could estimate.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Kosin  responded  that  he would  follow  up  with  the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:47:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard asked  if he could do it  today to put                                                                    
it on public record.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Kosin responded  that the  assessment of  bed need  was                                                                    
approximately 1,491.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard appreciated  him  putting  it on  the                                                                    
record                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:48:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE  BAKER,  EXECUTIVE   VICE  PRESIDENT,  SOUTHCENTRAL                                                                    
FOUNDATION,  ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),  testified  in                                                                    
support of HB 73.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:52:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  wondered whether the limit  was 16 or                                                                    
60.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker responded that it was 16 or less                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  noted that they were  concerned about                                                                    
the size  being too much and  felt that the goal  was for it                                                                    
to feel like a home based environment.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker  responded that the  intent was to create  as much                                                                    
flexibility as allowed within the law.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  noted that  Representative Dan  Saddler was                                                                    
present                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie asked about village centers.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker  responded that  the framework  allowed for  a new                                                                    
license type at the village center.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:56:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:57:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  queried the definition of  putting not                                                                    
more than fifteen, and striking it from the language.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  responded  the  department  was  in  support  of                                                                    
providing flexibility to organizations.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum asked if  there was anything that would                                                                    
prohibit them.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci replied  that it would not  inhibit the department                                                                    
of doing the work.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:02:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked for clarification on  the position                                                                    
of the department.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci responded  that the  department  did not  support                                                                    
integrating kids and adults.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:05:18 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:08:27 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson stressed  that the removal of  the cap on                                                                    
residents would run opposite to recommendations.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded that they  had thoughtfully engaged with                                                                    
stakeholders  and   provider  groups  to  ensure   that  the                                                                    
stakeholders would provide the best service.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski asked about the timeframe.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded  that they believed that  Sections 6 and                                                                    
7 could  be removed and a  July 1 date could  be implemented                                                                    
into the legislation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  wondered  whether it  would  be                                                                    
better  to  move the  bill  out  of  committee and  have  an                                                                    
amendment on the floor.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:12:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Allard   queried    the   definition    of                                                                    
"stakeholders."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  responded that stakeholders meant  anyone who was                                                                    
working  to   meet  the  needs   of  individuals,   and  the                                                                    
complexities of different provider groups.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:16:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard  understood  that someone  was  in  a                                                                    
homeless shelter who  needed help, care could  be delayed if                                                                    
there were not enough beds                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard understood that  children could not be                                                                    
with adults.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin asked about the limit of fifteen.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:21:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci would  hesitate to  use the  word investors,  but                                                                    
were providers who see a need to offer a service.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  wondered  why   the  number  15  was                                                                    
originally chosen.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded  that it was because of the  limit of 16                                                                    
beds or less.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  was in  support  of  the bill  being                                                                    
amended because the subtleties of the bill.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:26:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  agreed  that the  committee  should                                                                    
make the changes rather than doing it on the floor.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  stressed that the amendments  would need to                                                                    
be rolled into a committee substitute.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci thanked the committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 73 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:29:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 28                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act establishing a student loan repayment pilot                                                                        
     program; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:29:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:30:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KAY RILEY, SELF, JUNEAU (via teleconference), testified in                                                                      
support of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:31:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KERRY THOMAS, ACTING EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA COMMISSION                                                                      
ON POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION, JUNEAU (via teleconference),                                                                       
was online to answer questions about the bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster stated that Tuesday, May 13, 5pm was the                                                                        
amendment deadline.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:32:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 11:32 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 80 AMCO Response to HFIN 5.8.25.pdf HFIN 5/8/2025 10:00:00 AM
SB 80