Legislature(2025 - 2026)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

02/12/2025 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 80 EXTEND BOARDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 80 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= SB 79 PAYMENT OF WAGES; PAYROLL CARD ACCOUNT TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 79 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
*+ SB 55 TRS CONTR RATE; PERS/TRS SOC SECUR OR SBS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
        SB  55-TRS CONTR RATE; PERS/TRS SOC SECUR OR SBS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:51:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration of SENATE BILL NO.  55 "An Act relating to employer                                                               
contributions  in the  teachers' retirement  system; relating  to                                                               
supplemental employee  benefits; and  providing for  an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:51:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BERT  STEDMAN,  District A,  Alaska  State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska,  as sponsor he  provided a presentation on  SB 55                                                               
and  moved to  slide 2.  He stated  that the  Teachers Retirement                                                               
System (TRS)  was created in  the late 1940s to  attract teachers                                                               
to  Alaska, offering  higher pay  than many  other states  at the                                                               
time.  He said  the  competitive salary  drew  in many  teachers,                                                               
especially  from the  Midwest.  He said  Alaska  didn't have  the                                                               
infrastructure  to  train teachers  locally,  so  the pay  helped                                                               
bring them  into Alaska.  The pay has  changed in  Alaska. Today,                                                               
teacher    salaries  are average  compared  to  other states.  He                                                               
stated that  in the late 1950s,  teachers had the option  to join                                                               
Social Security  but chose not  to, likely because  the teachers'                                                               
pay and retirement  benefits were already strong.  He stated that                                                               
over time, federal penalties  have also discouraged participation                                                               
in both Social Security and state retirement plans.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:56:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN  moved to slide  3, and discussed the  history of                                                               
social security  in Alaska, since  1935. He stated that  when the                                                               
State of Alaska  decided to abandon social security  and create a                                                               
system called  the Supplemental Retirement System,  teachers were                                                               
not  included until  2024. Due  to  the structure  of the  system                                                               
there was no easy path for the inclusion of teachers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:57:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN moved  to slide 4 and spoke about  the PERS v TRS                                                               
data  table. He  stated that  all state  workers contribute  to a                                                               
retirement system, including  Public Employees' Retirement System                                                               
(PERS)  and   the  Supplemental  Benefits  System   (SBS),  which                                                               
replaced Social Security. State  Employees, except teachers, each                                                               
contribute [6.13] percent to  SBS, Total retirement contributions                                                               
for a PERS  employee are about 25 percent.  Teachers, without SBS                                                               
or   Social  Security,   only  have   a  15   percent  retirement                                                               
contribution. He said that overtime  the 10 percent gap creates a                                                               
major  retirement shortfall.  He said  even if  pay is  the same,                                                               
teachers  can't  come  close to  the  retirement  benefits  state                                                               
workers  get. He  stated  that  when Alaska  moved  to a  defined                                                               
contribution   plan  about   20  years   ago,  teacher   employer                                                               
contributions rose  from 5 percent to  7 percent to help  make up                                                               
for the lack  of Social Security or SBS, but  it's not enough. He                                                               
said many  SBS accounts now  exceed $1  million. It's one  of the                                                               
most  successful programs  the state  has, yet  teachers have  no                                                               
access to  it. Some school districts  offer deferred compensation                                                               
plans, but those  are funded only by the employee.  He said SB 55                                                               
aims to spotlight  that gap and start the conversation  on how to                                                               
fix the gap.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:03:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEDMAN  moved to  slide  6  and  stated that  Option  A                                                               
proposes raising  the state's contribution to  teacher retirement                                                               
from 7 percent  to 9 percent. While still less  than what regular                                                               
state  employees   receive,  it's  a  meaningful   increase  when                                                               
compounded over  time and a  good starting point  for discussion.                                                               
He  stated   that  option  B   would  allow  teachers   into  the                                                               
Supplemental  Benefits   System  (SBS).  A  path   for  that  was                                                               
developed last  session. He said  the federal  government removed                                                               
the  Social  Security penalty  for  those  with other  government                                                               
pensions, so  teachers can  now join  Social Security.  He stated                                                               
his belief that may not be the most beneficial option for them.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:05:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEDMAN moved  to slide  7  and stated  that one  option                                                               
would be to  let teachers choose between Social  Security or SBS.                                                               
The  state  isn't  preventing  the  teachers  from  deciding;  if                                                               
teachers vote for  it, the teachers can send  the legislature the                                                               
bill.  If the  teachers  join  SBS, the  state  will align  their                                                               
benefits with  regular state  workers. He  stated that  the state                                                               
will  combine a  2  percent contribution  increase  and SBS,  the                                                               
state would cover the 6.12  percent employer share. The 9 percent                                                               
contribution wouldn't be needed. The  employer share will stay at                                                               
7 percent  and adjust  the rest  to total  25 percent,  just like                                                               
other  state  employees.  He  said whether  someone  works  as  a                                                               
teacher or  on a road  crew, the cost to  the state would  be the                                                               
same.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:06:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN moved  to slide 8 and stated  that the foundation                                                               
of retirement  across the  U.S. is  Social Security  and teachers                                                               
don't have  it. He  said no  matter what the  state adds  on top,                                                               
they're  still  starting from  behind.  SB  55 also  addresses  a                                                               
broader issue beyond teachers. It  ensures all employees that are                                                               
in  the state  retirement  system, such  as municipalities,  will                                                               
have their  employees in  Social Security,  SBS, or  a negotiated                                                               
labor contract. Some employee groups  were excluded from both SBS                                                               
and  social  security, leaving  them  in  the same  situation  as                                                               
teachers, which  is fundamentally  wrong. He said  going forward,                                                               
all  new  hires  must  be  in  either  Social  Security  or  SBS.                                                               
Employers can't offer a retirement  plan without that base. SB 55                                                               
aims to fix the imbalance and level the playing field.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:09:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR YUNDT stated that the  first employer contribution option                                                               
increases from  12.56 percent to  14.56 percent which is  about a                                                               
15  percent bump.  The second  option goes  from 7  percent to  9                                                               
percent, a 28 percent increase.  He stated that these numbers are                                                               
a significant boost, intended to  help ensure that after a 2530-                                                                
year career, employees  aren't retiring with a pay  cut. He asked                                                               
if that's the goal of SB 55.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:09:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN  answered that on  slide 4,  it shows about  a 10                                                               
percent retirement  contribution gap.  The intention is  for that                                                               
gap to  be closed partially  by increased  employer contributions                                                               
and partially  by employee contributions. He  stated that there's                                                               
no question  on if  this increase would  cost the  employer more,                                                               
and employees will also have to  contribute more. He said to make                                                               
this work in  practice, the state would likely need  to tie it to                                                               
an increase in the Base  Student Allocation (BSA) or find another                                                               
financial  mechanism  to  support   the  added  costs.  Once  the                                                               
legislature decides  on the final structure,  the legislature can                                                               
figure  out  the  best  way to  implement  the  new  contribution                                                               
guidelines.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR YUNDT asked  whether school districts or  the state would                                                               
be paying the increase.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN answered that the  cost would technically fall to                                                               
school  districts but  get pushed  back  up through  the BSA,  so                                                               
ultimately,  the state  pays. He  said it's  like when  the state                                                               
took on the teachers' unfunded  liability 20 years ago to relieve                                                               
local districts. If  teachers chose to join  Social Security, the                                                               
state may not have much say,  deciding to join Social Security is                                                               
likely up to the teachers,  and possibly individual districts. SB
55 is  a good step  toward evaluating the costs  and consequences                                                               
of those potential options.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:12:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  referred to slide  7 and  asked if the  intent to                                                               
show both options at one time.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN answered no and  that's where the confusion comes                                                               
from, like  last year. The  state wouldn't offer both  because it                                                               
would overburden school districts,  raising contributions from 25                                                               
percent  to 27  percent,  which is  already  high nationally.  He                                                               
stated  that the  numbers would  be adjusted  so the  left column                                                               
mirrors the right.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked if the intention  of SB 55 was  to drop the                                                               
employer contribution  from 7 percent  to 5 percent if  a teacher                                                               
joins SBS.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN answered  that is correct, a  teacher wouldn't do                                                               
both options but if a teacher  doesn't want to do either, then he                                                               
opined the employer contribution should be raised by 2 percent.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BJORKMAN asked  if  an employer  chooses  the SBS  option,                                                               
would  the employer's  contribution to  the defined  contribution                                                               
(DC) account stay  at 7 percent, avoiding the  2 percent increase                                                               
to 9 percent, or would it decrease to 5 percent.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN  answered that the  final bill will  include only                                                               
one  option, not  both.  There  won't be  a  choice  between a  2                                                               
percent increase or joining SBS. He  stated that the intent is to                                                               
pick  one:  either enter  SBS  or  raise  the contribution  by  2                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:15:15 PM                                                                                                                    
ROSE   FOLEY,  Staff,   Senator   Bert   Stedman,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, answered  a question  on SB  55 and                                                               
stated that  the current version  of SB  55 does not  include any                                                               
reduction to the  employer contribution rate for TRS  DC plans if                                                               
those employees  were to  enroll in SBS  or Social  Security. She                                                               
said   it's  an   important  question   for  future   discussion,                                                               
particularly  whether the  employer  rate should  be adjusted  to                                                               
align both PERS  and TRS DC plans at the  same total contribution                                                               
level of 25.24 percent.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN [held SB 55 in committee.]                                                                                       

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB55 ver A.pdf SL&C 2/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 55
SB55 Sponsor Statement ver A.pdf SL&C 2/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 55
SB55 Sectional Analysis ver A.pdf SL&C 2/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 55
SB55 Fiscal Note-DOA-DRB-02.08.25.pdf SL&C 2/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 55
SB55 Presentation to SLAC 02.12.25.pdf SL&C 2/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 55