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             SB 44-NATUROPATHS: LICENSING; PRACTICE                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:35:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN announced  the consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.                                                               
44,   "An  Act   relating   to  the   practice  of   naturopathy;                                                               
establishing  the Naturopathy  Advisory  Board;  relating to  the                                                               
licensure of naturopaths; relating  to disciplinary sanctions for                                                               
naturopaths; relating  to the Department of  Commerce, Community,                                                               
and Economic Development; and providing for an effective date."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Before the committee is CSSB 44 (HSS), work order 33-LS0297\S.]                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:35:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CATHY GIESSEL,  District  E,  Alaska State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, sponsor  of SB 44, said she is  an advanced nurse                                                               
practitioner  with  a  national  board  certification  in  family                                                               
practice.  She  briefly   described  her  educational  experience                                                               
obtaining  a   master's  degree  at  the   University  of  Alaska                                                               
Anchorage,  which included  study of  naturopathic medicine.  She                                                               
explained  that after  graduation she  spent time  working in  an                                                               
alternative   medicine  clinic   alongside  a   physician,  nurse                                                               
practitioners,  and   several  naturopathic  doctors   (ND).  She                                                               
emphasized the  degree of knowledge  that she gained as  a result                                                               
of  working alongside  naturopaths  and  briefly described  their                                                               
method of  patient care. She  explained that naturopaths  are not                                                               
able to  prescribe medications and  would bring patient  cases to                                                               
her and  request prescriptions (typically for  thyroid or hormone                                                               
replacement medications).  She pointed out that  naturopaths tend                                                               
toward a  limited use of prescription  medications. She commented                                                               
that many  Alaskans seek out naturopathic  care. She acknowledged                                                               
that she has sponsored SB  44 by request; however, she emphasized                                                               
that naturopathic doctors are credible healthcare providers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:39:56 PM                                                                                                                    
JANE  CONWAY,   Staff,  Senator   Cathy  Giessel,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, offered a  presentation on SB 44 and                                                               
advanced to slide 2:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     WHAT IS A NATUROPATHIC DOCTOR?                                                                                           
        • A primary care provider with a four-year post                                                                         
          graduate medical degree who:                                                                                          
             • practices evidence-based primary care, with                                                                      
               a patient-centered focus,                                                                                        
             • prioritizes     disease    prevention     and                                                                    
               discovering root cause of illness,                                                                               
             • whose    treatments   focus    on   lifestyle                                                                    
               modifications,    nutrition   and    low-risk                                                                    
               intervention                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CONWAY explained  that NDs  attempt to  answer the  question                                                               
"why?"  and directed  attention  to recent  Health Resources  and                                                               
Services Administration (HRSA) data  indicating that, in the next                                                               
decade, Alaska will  need 237 primary care  doctors. In addition,                                                               
HRSA  recommended  creating  interdisciplinary  care  teams.  She                                                               
pointed out  that Alaska currently  has 48-50 NDs who  could help                                                               
fill  this requirement  and SB  44 would  make them  primary care                                                               
doctors in the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:42:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CONWAY advanced to slide 3:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     WHAT ABOUT THEIR EDUCATION?                                                                                              
     Education                                                                                                                  
        4-Year Medical School Program accredited by the                                                                         
     Council of Naturopathic Medical Education with                                                                             
        • 2 years of medical sciences (anatomy, physiology,                                                                     
          microbiology, immunology, etc.)                                                                                       
     Pre-requisites                                                                                                             
        • 4-yr undergraduate degree and additional pre-med                                                                      
          coursework                                                                                                            
     Residency                                                                                                                  
        • Less common because they are not trained as                                                                           
          hospitalists                                                                                                          
        • 1-3 year residency options available; nationwide                                                                      
          there's a shortage                                                                                                    
        • Note that residencies are not required for                                                                            
          independent  primary   care  providers   who  hold                                                                    
          prescriptive privileges                                                                                               
     Licensing                                                                                                                  
        Naturopaths must pass the two-part Naturopathic                                                                         
     Physicians Licensing Examination (NPLEX) before being                                                                      
     licensed to practice                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. CONWAY noted that Dr. Carrie  Baldwin, who is an authority on                                                               
ND education, is available for questions on this topic.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:43:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CONWAY advanced to slide 4:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     WHO IS NOT A NATUROPATHIC DOCTOR?                                                                                        
        • Other conventionally-trained or allied health                                                                         
          care     providers     practicing     integrative,                                                                    
          functional,   or  holistic   healthcare  such   as                                                                    
          Medical Doctors (MD),  Doctors of Osteopathy (DO),                                                                    
          Chiropractors  (DC),   Nurse  Practitioners  (NP),                                                                    
          Physicians Assistants (PA),  or Massage Therapists                                                                    
          (LMT)                                                                                                                 
        • Other licensed or unlicensed providers marketing                                                                      
          themselves  as  natural care  providers,  holistic                                                                    
          healthcare providers or healers                                                                                       
        • Health food store employees                                                                                           
        • Essential oil sales representatives                                                                                   
        • Someone who completed an online certificate                                                                           
          course                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:44:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CONWAY  advanced to  slide 5,  displaying a  multi-colored US                                                               
map with the heading, "Regulation  of Naturopathic Doctors in the                                                               
United States." She explained that  24 states regulated NDs while                                                               
10 states  have active licensure  initiatives. Texas  and Wyoming                                                               
have active  advocacy initiatives;  there is growing  interest in                                                               
the practice of naturopathy across the country.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:44:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CONWAY  advanced to  slide 6,  displaying a  multi-colored US                                                               
map with the  heading, "Scope of Practice  by State: Prescriptive                                                               
Authority." She  pointed out that  Alaska is among the  10 states                                                               
that do not  allow NDs prescriptive authority. 12  states do give                                                               
NDs   prescriptive  authority   and   California  gives   limited                                                               
prescriptive  authority.  She  noted  that Dr.  Clyde  Jenson  is                                                               
available to answer related questions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:45:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CONWAY  advanced to slide  7, displaying a  multi-colored map                                                               
titled, "Scope of Practice by  State: Controlled Substances." She                                                               
pointed out  that six  states allow  NDs to  prescribe controlled                                                               
substances.  She clarified  that SB  44  would not  allow NDs  to                                                               
prescribe controlled substances.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CONWAY advanced to slide 8:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL 44                                                                                                           
        • Modernizes statutes for Naturopaths                                                                                   
        • Cleans up outdated language                                                                                           
        • Imposes the same public health duties on                                                                              
          Naturopaths as other medical providers                                                                                
        • Updates scope of practice for Naturopaths that                                                                        
          includes limited prescriptive authority                                                                               
        • Allows minor office procedures                                                                                        
        • NO MORE duplicative office visits                                                                                     
        • Improved access to care for Alaskans                                                                                  
        • More choice for patients                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CONWAY emphasized that NDs  would most likely prescribe basic                                                               
medications as a  last resort. This would be  more convenient and                                                               
less  costly for  patients.  She gave  examples  of minor  office                                                               
procedures.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:48:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CONWAY   stated  that   increasingly,  people   are  seeking                                                               
alternative healthcare options that  can help them understand why                                                               
they  feel   a  certain   way  -   without  relying   heavily  on                                                               
prescription medications.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:48:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP  asked for clarification that  Senator Giessel had                                                               
worked in  a facility  with a  ND and a  medical doctor  (MD) and                                                               
asked if this is a common practice.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:49:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL replied  that this is correct  and explained that                                                               
it  was   an  integrative   healthcare  facility,   meaning  that                                                               
practitioners   of   allopathic   (conventional   medicine)   and                                                               
alternative  medicine   worked  alongside   one  another   in  an                                                               
"alternative  medicine"  clinic. She  shared  that  she visits  a                                                               
clinic  that  is  owned  by  a  nurse  practitioner  who  employs                                                               
naturopaths.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:49:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP  asked  for  an example  of  what  is  considered                                                               
"limited prescriptive authority."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL explained that NDs  may need to prescribe thyroid                                                               
hormones  (a common  medication  for women  over  40) or  hormone                                                               
replacement  therapy  (HRT).  Occasionally,   they  may  need  to                                                               
prescribe  antibiotics (most  often  a last  resort). She  stated                                                               
that these  were the main  prescriptions she wrote for  NDs while                                                               
working at the aforementioned clinic.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:50:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP  shared his  understanding that  NDs would  not be                                                               
able  to write  prescriptions for  schedule class  III drugs  and                                                               
asked if this is correct.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  agreed that this is  correct - NDs would  not be                                                               
able  to  write  prescriptions  for  controlled  substances.  She                                                               
explained that the ability to  write prescriptions for controlled                                                               
substances  is   limited  -  even  for   conventional  healthcare                                                               
providers -  and briefly explained the  requirements. She offered                                                               
to  provide   a  handout  describing   the  five   categories  of                                                               
controlled  substances  (e.g.   oxycodone  and  certain  sleeping                                                               
pills). She explained that medications  on this list are commonly                                                               
addictive.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:03 PM                                                                                                                    
TIMOTHY  BIRDSALL, ND,  Avante  Medical  Center, LLC,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska  gave  a  brief  overview  of  his  educational  and  work                                                               
experience. He explained that NDs  have worked in Alaska for over                                                               
35  years  and  in  the  US   for  over  100.  He  described  the                                                               
educational requirements  and clinical hours needed  to become an                                                               
ND and noted that there is  an immense about of oversight by NDs,                                                               
MDs, and  Doctors of Osteopathy  (DO) during training.  He stated                                                               
that ND training  programs are subject to  the same accreditation                                                               
and  oversight  as  other medical  training  programs.  He  named                                                               
Bastyr University and the National  University of Health Sciences                                                               
as the  two oldest Naturopathic  medical schools in the  US. They                                                               
are accredited by  the same agency that  accredits the University                                                               
of  Alaska. He  noted that  the naturopathic  programs each  have                                                               
additional  accreditation  through  the Council  on  Naturopathic                                                               
Medical  Education.   Once  students   have  graduated   from  an                                                               
accredited program, they  sit for the national  board exam, which                                                               
includes an  exam on pharmacology.  He stated that  the education                                                               
received by ND is comparable  to that of nurse practitioners, who                                                               
have broader prescriptive  authority than what is  proposed by SB
44.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:55:08 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  BIRDSALL asserted  that, with  this level  of training,  NDs                                                               
have shown themselves  to be safe and effective  providers. SB 44                                                               
allows  NDs  to  practice  to  the  extent  of  their  education,                                                               
experience, and  training. He said  that this  education training                                                               
includes  the use  of minor  office procedures  and prescriptions                                                               
when appropriate.  He stated that  he would  personally prescribe                                                               
less  than 10  percent  of the  time.  He gave  an  example of  a                                                               
patient  who  needed an  antibiotic  for  strep but  he  couldn't                                                               
prescribe due  to restrictions  on his ND  license in  Alaska. He                                                               
added that he  had to refer this patient to  a nurse practitioner                                                               
for the  prescription and reiterated  that his ND training  is as                                                               
extensive as  a nurse practitioner's.  He said that  being unable                                                               
to prescribe  necessary medications results in  treatment delays,                                                               
added costs, and  some patients do not follow  through to receive                                                               
the necessary care. He pointed out  that Alaska has a shortage of                                                               
primary care  providers that  NDs can help  to fill.  He asserted                                                               
that  NDs are  safe primary  care  providers who  are trained  to                                                               
understand their  scope of  practice and  will refer  patients to                                                               
other providers  when necessary. He  shared a story of  a patient                                                               
he recently  referred to a  specialist and emphasized  his desire                                                               
for his  patients to  have the  best care  and the  most positive                                                               
outcome, regardless of the therapies employed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:58:22 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  BIRDSALL discussed  the safety  of an  ND scope  of practice                                                               
that includes limited prescriptive  authority. He referred to the                                                               
rate of disciplinary action and  directed attention to a document                                                               
from   the  Federation   of   Naturopathic  Medicine   Regulatory                                                               
Authorities  to gain  perspective  on the  rates of  disciplinary                                                               
action in all states that  regulate NDs. The rate of disciplinary                                                               
action for NDs is one tenth of that  for MDs and half of that for                                                               
DOs.  He  then  turned  his attention  to  malpractice  insurance                                                               
claims  against  NDs nationwide,  the  rate  of which  is  0.0001                                                               
percent. He emphasized  that this is a very low  number and added                                                               
that this  is reflected in the  premiums, which are also  low. He                                                               
pointed  out  that currently,  NDs  are  not required  to  report                                                               
malpractice claims  and added  that SB  44 closes  this reporting                                                               
loophole.  He reiterated  that NDs  receive formal  education and                                                               
training that  is comparable to nurse  practitioners and supports                                                               
independent  prescribing  rights.  He  stated that  SB  44  is  a                                                               
comprehensive rewrite  that adds additional  responsibilities and                                                               
expressed his support  for these changes. He  asserted that these                                                               
changes would  allow NDs  to practice  as trained  while ensuring                                                               
the safety of Alaskans and requested support.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:01:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP asked if NDs have  the ability to do physicals for                                                               
Federal   Aviation   Administration   (FAA)  flight   exams   and                                                               
Commercial Driver's License (CDL) exams.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BIRDSALL  replied that  he  does  not  know the  answer  and                                                               
offered to  find out.  He shared his  understanding that  this is                                                               
not currently  done by NDs and  stated that he is  not aware that                                                               
SB 44 would address this.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CARRIE BALDWIN-SAYRE,  ND, Associate Vice  President, Advancement                                                               
and   Community  Engagement,   National  University   of  Natural                                                               
Medicine,  Portland,  Oregon,  gave  a brief  work  history.  She                                                               
stated  she can  speak to  the  education and  training that  NDs                                                               
receive  - and  how this  is overseen  and regulated  by national                                                               
accreditation organizations.  She explained  that all  NDs attend                                                               
accredited naturopathic medical  schools. The National University                                                               
of Natural  Medicine has  both a  program accreditation  (via the                                                               
Council  on   Naturopathic  Medical  Education  (CNME))   and  an                                                               
institutional  accreditation  (via  the Northwest  Commission  on                                                               
Colleges and Universities  (NWCCU))- both are overseen  by the US                                                               
Department  of   Education.  CNME  sets  the   standard  for  the                                                               
naturopathic  program, ensuring  that graduates  are well-trained                                                               
to provide  excellent and  safe patient care.  NWCCU is  the same                                                               
accreditor  for the  state's  allopathic  medical school  (Oregon                                                               
Health  Sciences University)  and the  University of  Alaska. She                                                               
stated that the  processes are rigorous and  expressed pride that                                                               
NUNM meets the same high standards as these institutions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:04:32 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. BALDWIN-SAYRE  discussed the content of  Naturopathic Medical                                                               
training   programs,  which   are  four-year   graduate  training                                                               
programs. NUMN's program includes  5047 hours of total education,                                                               
including 1254  hours of direct  student involvement  in clinical                                                               
care.  She detailed  the  admissions  requirements, pointing  out                                                               
that  the prerequisite  requirements are  nearly identical  to DO                                                               
and MD programs  throughout the US. She emphasized  that the 1254                                                               
clinical training  hours are comparable  to the  requirements for                                                               
many other medical programs and  exceed the 1000-hour requirement                                                               
for the two-year nurse practitioner  program at OHSU. She pointed                                                               
out  that,  though  they have  less  training  than  naturopathic                                                               
doctors, nurse  practitioners have fully  autonomous prescription                                                               
authority  -  including  controlled substances.  She  added  that                                                               
nurse  practitioners  do  not   have  a  post-graduate  residency                                                               
requirement, yet  they play a  vital role in  Alaska's healthcare                                                               
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:05:36 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  BALDWIN-SAYRE   explained  that  ND  Education   covers  the                                                               
following areas of study:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Years 1-2                                                                                                                
      Biomedical Sciences and Diagnostic Training, courses                                                                      
     include:                                                                                                                   
        • Anatomy                                                                                                               
        • Physiology                                                                                                            
        • Biochemistry                                                                                                          
        • Histology                                                                                                             
        • Pathology                                                                                                             
        • Microbiology                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Diagnostic methods and procedures, courses include:                                                                        
        • Physical examination                                                                                                  
        • Laboratory diagnosis                                                                                                  
        • Diagnostic imaging                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Years 3-4                                                                                                                
      Translating basic scientific knowledge into clinical                                                                      
     application, courses include:                                                                                              
        • Cardiology                                                                                                            
        • Gastroenterology                                                                                                      
        • Gynecology                                                                                                            
        • Endocrinology                                                                                                         
        • Disease management & prevention                                                                                       
        • Nutrition                                                                                                             
        • Lifestyle medicine                                                                                                    
        • Botanical medicine                                                                                                    
        • Pharmaceutical prescribing                                                                                            
        • Minor surgical procedures                                                                                             
        • And more                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BALDWIN-SAYRE  emphasized  that,   in  years  3-4,  students                                                               
receive   education  specific   to  prescribing   pharmaceuticals                                                               
throughout 15  courses. This  is in  addition to  the prescribing                                                               
they  do  in  a  primary   care  clinical  setting  during  their                                                               
internship.   They  receive   extensive  didactic   and  hands-on                                                               
clinical training  in dermatologic and minor  surgical procedures                                                               
during their final two years.  This includes suturing techniques,                                                               
biopsies,  cryotherapy, and  laceration repair.  Students receive                                                               
hands-on  training  in  a  variety  of  clinical  settings,  with                                                               
increasing levels  of responsibility as they  progress. They must                                                               
pass three hands-on clinical examinations  to graduate. The final                                                               
exam occurs  after a  full year of  their own  supervised patient                                                               
load  in  a  state  credentialed, primary  care  medical  home  -                                                               
serving mostly Medicaid patients with complicated medical needs.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:07:15 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  BALDWIN-SAYRE said  that following  the completion  of their                                                               
education,  all  NDs  must  pass   two  board  examinations.  She                                                               
asserted  that  this  medical  training   ensures  that  NDs  are                                                               
competent, safe, effective healthcare  providers and are prepared                                                               
to care  for patients.  She stated that  allowing NDs  to perform                                                               
minor surgeries  and giving them prescriptive  authority for non-                                                               
schedule C  drugs is a  very low  risk addition to  their current                                                               
scope  of  practice. She  added  that  this  is well  within  the                                                               
confines of their training.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:08:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CLYDE JENSEN, PhD, representing self,  Saint George, Utah, gave a                                                               
brief overview of  his work history in  pharmacology and teaching                                                               
MDs, DOs, NDs, among others. As a  result, he is in a position to                                                               
compare   the   pharmacology    education   received   by   these                                                               
professions.  He  added  that  he is  currently  a  professor  of                                                               
pharmacology at  an osteopathic medical  school with  campuses in                                                               
Colorado, Utah,  and Montana. He  stated that when he  has taught                                                               
and  designed  pharmacology   courses  for  naturopathic  medical                                                               
students, he has ensured that  the number of pharmacology contact                                                               
hours -  along with the  content of the  hours - is  identical to                                                               
what is taught  in MD and DO  schools. He has done  this in order                                                               
to ensure  that naturopathic physician graduates  are prepared to                                                               
prescribe  in   jurisdictions  where  they   have  pharmaceutical                                                               
prescription authority. He explained  that this also ensures that                                                               
NDs can  collaborate with their  MD and DO colleagues  to provide                                                               
patient care. In addition, teaching NDs  to the same level as MDs                                                               
and DOs ensures that naturopathic  medical graduates are aware of                                                               
important  drug/herb and  drug/nutrient  interactions. He  stated                                                               
that   he   testifies  at   hearings   like   this  one   because                                                               
professionals need to  be allowed to work to the  level that they                                                               
have been trained.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:13:37 PM                                                                                                                    
ROB DOWNEY,  MD, Founder,  Seaworthy Functional  Medicine, Homer,                                                               
Alaska, gave a  brief education and work history  and stated that                                                               
the  education  he received  is  similar  to  what is  taught  at                                                               
naturopathic universities. He  stated that he has  worked in both                                                               
Montana and Alaska and is a  strong advocate for SB 44. He shared                                                               
an account  of an ND  who treated a  patient with an  auto immune                                                               
difficulties  that  had  not responded  to  conventional  medical                                                               
treatment.  The patient  suffered  from  psoriatic arthritis  and                                                               
responded  well to  naturopathic treatment.  He shared  that this                                                               
inspired him  to seek  additional training  at the  Institute for                                                               
Functional Medicine.  He continues to  work alongside NDs  and he                                                               
expressed  great  respect for  these  doctors.  He expressed  his                                                               
belief that NDs are well-trained  and perfectly suited to provide                                                               
much needed primary care to patients  in Alaska. He said that the                                                               
NDs  he  works  with  are  very   well  trained  in  the  use  of                                                               
pharmacologic  agents.  He  said  that he  is  not  surprised  by                                                               
testimony that the  curriculum used for ND education  is the same                                                               
as that  of MDs and DOs.  He stated that concerns  related to the                                                               
ND scope  of practice proposed by  SB 44 are unfounded  and added                                                               
that no  evidence supports  claims of harm.  He pointed  out that                                                               
many states  have an  expanded scope  of practice  for NDs  - and                                                               
there is a low incidence of malpractice allegations.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:17:13 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. DOWNEY  stated that  nurse practitioners  do a  wonderful job                                                               
prescribing for  Alaskans and pointed  out that NDs  receive post                                                               
graduate education  that that  is equal  to -  or that  exceeds -                                                               
that of  nurse practitioners. He opined  that it is a  dark irony                                                               
that  naturopathic  physicians  are  not  prescribing  in  Alaska                                                               
already and  added that this  is an understatement.  He commented                                                               
that, while  NDs tend to use  medications as a last  resort, they                                                               
are very  well-trained to know  when a medication is  necessary -                                                               
and  offered  examples.  However, patients  must  seek  secondary                                                               
appointments in order to receive  treatment - which can have dire                                                               
consequences. He explained that currently,  there can be a lag of                                                               
many  days between  appointments.  He referred  to  the chain  of                                                               
treatment and stated  that more links mean more delay  - and more                                                               
points for the chain to break.  In this scenario, many suffer. He                                                               
noted that  NDs are  trained to work  with patients  to determine                                                               
when lifestyle changes can mitigate  underlying health problems -                                                               
and  if ongoing  medication is  necessary. This  is no  different                                                               
from a good  MD or nurse practitioner would  provide. He compared                                                               
restricting NDs  to restricting mechanics or  tax accountants and                                                               
recommended  that  common  sense  be used  when  determining  the                                                               
appropriate  regulations. He  stated that  Alaska's primary  care                                                               
shortage limits access  to affordable care and  asserted that NDs                                                               
who  have  graduated  from   accredited  programs,  passed  post-                                                               
graduate exams, and passed the new  exam required by SB 44 should                                                               
be   able  to   prescribe   the  medications   allowed  by   this                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:19:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRISTINE  SAGAN, NP,  Owner, Vitae  Integrative Medical  Center,                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska, stated  that her  clinic serves  patients all                                                               
over  the  state  and  has   a  large  demand  for  primary  care                                                               
providers. The clinic's  ND has openings to see  patients but not                                                               
the  ability   to  prescribe,   which  precludes   patients  from                                                               
establishing  care. This  delays  access to  primary  care -  the                                                               
demand  for  which is  significantly  higher  post Covid-19.  She                                                               
stated that nurse practitioners  and naturopaths are filling this                                                               
role. She added  that access to healthcare is an  urgent issue in                                                               
Alaska  and pointed  out that  many healthcare  providers retired                                                               
during the Covid-19 pandemic. Patients may  wait up to a year for                                                               
an office visit and some  clinics are not accepting new patients.                                                               
Primary care  providers see  an average of  2100 visits  per year                                                               
and NDs could take up 1000 of these visits.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SAGAN stated  that  she  has worked  alongside  NDs for  the                                                               
entirety  of  her 17  years  in  the  field  and added  that  her                                                               
experience working  with NDs puts her  in a position to  speak to                                                               
their competency  and training. She explained  that this includes                                                               
a  knowledge  of pharmaceutical  medications  and  said that  she                                                               
often  consults her  ND colleagues  for their  expertise in  this                                                               
area. She has attended  naturopathic continuing education courses                                                               
-  including pharmacology  courses  - and  learned  a great  deal                                                               
which she  was then able  to apply  to her medical  practice. She                                                               
said that it is common for  her ND colleagues to request that she                                                               
see one of their patients  in order to prescribe medications. She                                                               
explained that  this requires  her to duplicate  exams -  only to                                                               
prescribe  the  same medication  that  her  colleague would  have                                                               
prescribed. She  asserted that seeing  multiple providers  is not                                                               
in  the   patient's  best  interest,  as   it  wastes  resources,                                                               
finances,  and time.  She pointed  out  that nurse  practitioners                                                               
faced this  issue 40 years ago  when they updated their  scope of                                                               
practice to  include prescriptive  authority. She  explained that                                                               
some   argued   against   this  change,   claiming   that   nurse                                                               
practitioner  education  was  inadequate   because  it  does  not                                                               
include  a  post-graduate  residency.  However,  the  legislature                                                               
decided  to extend  their scope  of  practice in  spite of  this,                                                               
which has  allowed nurse practitioners  to serve a vital  role in                                                               
Alaska's healthcare system.  She asserted that this  work is done                                                               
safely, in spite  of the concerns raised  previously. She pointed                                                               
out that NDs receive extensive  training; however some argue that                                                               
they are not adequately trained  since, like nurse practitioners,                                                               
they are  not required  to complete  a residency.  She emphasized                                                               
that currently,  NDs -  who have a  four-year doctorate  degree -                                                               
must  turn to  nurse  practitioners to  complete  a component  of                                                               
their  patient's  care  and opined  that  this  situation  defies                                                               
logic.  She  urged support  of  SB  44  to  extend NDs  scope  of                                                               
practice.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:24:32 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  NATALIE  WIGGINS,  ND,  Vitae  Integrative  Medical  Center,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, urged support of the  SB 44 for the benefit of                                                               
Alaskans.  She   stated  that  the   changes  proposed   by  this                                                               
legislation mirror  what has been  done in many other  states for                                                               
years.  She  shared  a  brief  work  history  in  Arizona,  which                                                               
included  prescriptive authority,  superficial wound  repair, and                                                               
biopsies; while there  she worked alongside an  MD and supervised                                                               
students. She gave  an overview of her education,  which gave her                                                               
the  knowledge to  perform these  tasks. She  said that  when she                                                               
came to  Alaska, she had  to give up the  ability to work  to the                                                               
extent  of  her  knowledge  -  a disservice  to  herself  and  to                                                               
Alaskans. She  pointed out that  she is entrusted to  perform the                                                               
same  tasks  as  a  primary  care  provider  and  gave  examples.                                                               
However,  when   the  treatment  protocol   includes  prescribing                                                               
medications,  she is  must  refer them  to  other providers.  She                                                               
shared examples  from her practice when  medications were needed.                                                               
She  pointed to  her  experience  in Arizona  as  proof that  the                                                               
expanded scope  of practice proposed  by SB  44 is both  safe and                                                               
essential for comprehensive patient care.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:29:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN referred  to page 6 of SB 44,  which describes the                                                               
proposed scope  of practice -  including minor surgery.  He asked                                                               
what types of surgery are considered minor.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR.   WIGGINS  replied   that   this   would  include   stitches,                                                               
superficial wound repair, and superficial lesions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BJORKMAN  said   that  he  has  heard   reports  of  NDs                                                               
performing liposuctions  in Arizona and  asked if Dr.  Wiggins is                                                               
familiar with this.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR. WIGGINS stated she had  also heard this report and emphasized                                                               
that she does  not consider that to be a  minor office procedure.                                                               
She surmised  that the ND  had received additional  training. She                                                               
added that liposuction  is not routinely included  in ND training                                                               
and would therefore  would not be included in  the expanded scope                                                               
of practice.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:31:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN held SB 44 in committee.                                                                                         
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2:31:50 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB225 ver A.PDF SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Transmittal Letter.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Sectional Analysis ver A.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL 02.07.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Letters of Support as of 03.12.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Public Testimony-Letter-AHHA 02.28.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Presentation for SLAC ver A.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB44 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL-03.01.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony Batch#5 03.14.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony CA Bd of Naturopathic Medicine 03.14.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony FNMRA 03.13.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony-Email_Shawn Vainio_02.26.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony-Greg Montonaga 03.14.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony-Kristin Mitchell 03.20.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Bios of Invited Testifiers SL&C 03.15.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Presentation to SLAC 03.15.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB237 ver. A.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 4/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 237
SB237 Presentation to SLAC 03.15.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 4/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 237
SB237 Transmittal Letter 02.15.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 4/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 237
SB237 Sectional Analysis 02.20.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 4/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 237
SB237 Fiscal Note-DOR-TAX-02-14-24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 237