Legislature(2019 - 2020)ADAMS ROOM 519
05/13/2019 09:00 AM House FINANCE
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HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE
May 13, 2019
9:00 a.m.
9:00:15 AM
CALL TO ORDER
Co-Chair Wilson called the House Finance Committee meeting
to order at 9:00 a.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair
Representative Tammie Wilson, Co-Chair
Representative Jennifer Johnston, Vice-Chair
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair
Representative Ben Carpenter
Representative Andy Josephson
Representative Gary Knopp
Representative Bart LeBon
Representative Kelly Merrick
Representative Colleen Sullivan-Leonard
Representative Cathy Tilton
MEMBERS ABSENT
None
ALSO PRESENT
Lynn Gattis, Staff, Representative Tammie Wilson; Senator
David Wilson, Bill Sponsor; Kris Curtis, Legislative
Auditor, Alaska Division of Legislative Audit; Sara
Chambers, Director, Division of Corporations, Business and
Professional Licensing, Department of Commerce, Community
and Economic Development.
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE
Major Bernard Chastain, Deputy Director, Alaska Wildlife
Troopers, Department of Public Safety; Virgil Umphenour,
Self, Fairbanks; Wayne Kubat, Self, Wasilla; Mark Richards,
Executive Director, Resident Hunters of Alaska.
SUMMARY
HB 139 AK PERM. FUND CORP. PROCUREMENT EXEMPTION
HB 139 was SCHEDULED but not HEARD.
CSSB 43(FIN)
EXTEND BIG GAME BOARD; OUTFITTER LICENSE
CSSB 43(FIN) was HEARD and HELD in committee for
further consideration.
CSSB 44(FIN)
TELEHEALTH: PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS; DRUGS
CSSB 44(FIN) was SCHEDULED but not HEARD.
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 43(FIN)
"An Act extending the termination date of the Big Game
Commercial Services Board; relating to a person's
eligibility to hold a registered guide-outfitter
license, master guide- outfitter license, class-A
assistant guide license, assistant guide license, or
transporter license; and providing for an effective
date."
9:00:46 AM
Vice-Chair Johnston MOVED to ADOPT the proposed committee
substitute for CSSB 43(FIN), Work Draft 31-LS0442\S
(Bullard, 5/11/19). There being NO OBJECTION, it was so
ordered.
LYNN GATTIS, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE TAMMIE WILSON, explained
the changes in the Committee Substitute (CS). The CS
changed the title of the bill to include the Board of
Barbers and Hairdressers. She read the full bill title:
"An Act extending the termination date of the Board of
Barbers and Hairdressers; extending the termination
date of the Big Game Commercial Services Board;
relating to a person's eligibility to hold a
registered guide-outfitter license, master guide-
outfitter license, class-A assistant guide license,
assistant guide license, or transporter license; and
providing for an effective date."
Ms. Gattis continued with the changes on page 1, lines 8
and 9 of the bill and read the following:
(4) Board of Barbers and Hairdressers (AS 08.13.010) -
June 30, 2027 [2019];
Ms. Gattis concluded that the sunset date extension for the
Board of Barbers and Hairdressers was the only change
contained in the CS.
9:02:32 AM
Representative Tilton observed the date on line 9 read
2027. [Ms. Gattis had incorrectly read the date as 2024.]
Representative Josephson cited Section 4 of the bill and
summarized the section warned that violating the law
resulted in revocation of the license. He assumed that
existed prior to the CS.
Co-Chair Wilson indicated that the sponsor would review the
bill. She communicated that the Board of Barbers and
Hairdressers was set to expire in June 2019 and sunset
legislation was inadvertently not introduced. The board had
a clean audit. She thanked the sponsor for adding the
board to the bill.
9:04:03 AM
SENATOR DAVID WILSON, BILL SPONSOR, reviewed the bill. He
explained that the bill extended the Big Game Commercial
Services Board (BGCSB) for 5 years to 2024, one year less
than the Senate Finance Committee version of the bill. The
board consists of two licensed Registered Guide-Outfitters,
two licensed Transporters, two private landholders, two
public members, and one member from the Board of Game.
Legislative Audit conducted their review of this board and
made 3 recommendations. He reminded the committee that all
three recommendations were in the purview of the division
and not the board. He reviewed the audit finding
recommendations. He read the first and second
recommendations:
DCBPL's director should improve management oversight
procedures to ensure required documentation is
obtained, reviewed, and retained to support licensure.
DCBPL's chief investigator should increase oversight
to improve the timeliness of investigations.
Senator Wilson commented that multiple agencies were
involved in investigations and at times were very complex.
A case could take two to three years for the case to reach
adjudication. The licensees considered the license a
property right and the state acted cautiously when property
rights were at stake. He moved to the third recommendation
and read the following:
The Office of the Governor, Boards and Commissions
director should work with the board to identify
potential applicants in a timely manner.
Senator Wilson indicated that the department recognized the
need for more support to increase quality control. The
division added more supervisors and an additional examiner.
In addition, the division improved training procedures. The
division also added a new Chief Investigator and two senior
investigators in order to hold the investigators
accountable throughout the length of the investigations.
He noted that the number of cases were recently lowered to
56.
9:07:33 AM
Senator Wilson answered an earlier question from
Representative Josephson regarding Section 4. He delineated
that the change related to the master guide-outfitters
license and functions. The license was an honorary title.
The provision clarified that if licensees acted badly
they would lose their honorary title. The title was
intended for the best of the best guides.
Representative Josephson had heard many concerns regarding
the board not enforcing violations of hunting laws. He
expressed his alarm and asked Senator Wilson for comment.
Senator Wilson replied that much of the lack of enforcement
was due to a lack of investigators during the time period
of the audit. He elucidated that the board lost three to
four supervisors that led to a backlog. The backlog had
recently been reduced to 39 cases. They were working on the
timeframe of investigations. He relayed that in prior
Senate Resources Committee hearings a division testifier
relayed the step by step process of an investigation from
the time the individual was first contacted by the state
trooper through the adjudication process to the disposition
stage. The board felt more qualified to address the
violation at the end of the process after lawsuits and the
appeals processes. He noted that Section 2 of the original
bill provided the board more tools to suspend and revoke
licenses.
9:10:48 AM
Co-Chair Wilson asked if the sponsor had researched the
cost of investigations. She explained that when a violator
was found guilty, the cost of the investigation was borne
by the license holders. She pointed to page 10 of the audit
that showed the board had been $1 million in debt due to
the cost of investigations. She referenced discussions
regarding the violator sharing the cost of the
investigation. She wondered whether the sponsor had done
any research on whether the scenario would be advantageous
to the board. Senator Wilson answered in the negative.
Co-Chair Wilson explained situations where the costs of the
investigation and court went to the board and license
holders. She believed that at some point the cost became a
big lift for license holders. She noted that the board had
gotten into trouble because of the issue in the past.
9:12:52 AM
Representative Josephson stated that at some point the
board was bearing an expense that should be borne by the
Alaskan people. Law enforcement was a public issue. He
was uncertain how to resolve the issue.
Senator Wilson voiced that he found the investigation
caseload information contained in an email from the boards
April 2019 board meeting. He relayed that the board had 37
open cases and that 13 of the cases were Alaska Wildlife
cases that were out of the purview of the board or
division. He added that 10 cases were in litigation through
the Office of Administrative Hearings and 2 were with the
respondents and awaited acceptance or rejection. Twelve
cases remained; 7 concerned breach of contracts or
complaints regarding the license and application process
and one case pertained to a guide interference issue.
KRIS CURTIS, LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR, ALASKA DIVISION OF
LEGISLATIVE AUDIT, reviewed the audit titled A Sunset
Review of the Department of Commerce, Community, and
Economic Development, Big Game Commercial Services Board
(board) dated September 14, 2018 (copy on file). She read
from the audit report conclusions:
The audit concluded that the board served the public's
interest by conducting meetings in accordance with
applicable laws, amending regulations to improve
occupations under the board's purview, and supporting
changes by the Department of Law to improve the
timeliness of the disciplinary process. Additionally,
the board worked to eliminate the over $1 million
deficit reported in the prior 2015 sunset audit.
The audit also concluded that board licenses were not
consistently supported by adequate documentation, a
high number of investigations had unjustified periods
of inactivity, and three board positions were vacant
for an extended period. In accordance with AS
08.03.010(c)(9), the board is scheduled to terminate
on June 30, 2019. We recommend that the legislature
extend the board's termination to June 30, 2025, which
is two years less than the eight year maximum allowed
for in statute.
Ms. Curtis continued with the scheduled licensed activity
on page 8 of the audit. She relayed that as of May 31, 2018
there were 1,219 active licenses representing a 20 percent
decrease from the 2015 sunset audit. She detailed that
according to the boards chair, the decrease was partly due
to less interest in the profession and guides retiring. In
addition, the number of transporter licenses decreased due
to many transporters changing to operating as air taxis to
avoid the license reporting requirements and fees. In April
2015, there were 151 licensed transporters compared to 90
as of May 2018, representing a 40 percent reduction in the
number of transporters. She moved to page 10 of the audit
that depicted the Schedule of Revenues and Expenditures, FY
15 through FY 18. She pointed to a surplus of over $132,000
at the end of FY 18, which was significant because of a $1
million deficit in FY 15. She listed the audit
recommendations beginning on page 14. She read the
following regarding recommendation 1:
DCBPL's director should improve management oversight
procedures to ensure required documentation is
obtained, reviewed, and retained to support licensure.
The audit found that DCBPL staff did not consistently
license individuals according to statutes and
regulations. Fourteen of 25 new licenses (56 percent)
tested as part of the audit did not have sufficient
documentation to support licensure and four applicants
had more than one deficiency identified.
Ms. Curtis commented that the more serious document
deficiencies included missing or outdated background checks
and inadequate investigatory or supervisory review.
According to the Division of Corporations, Business, and
Professional Licensing (DCBPL), there was turnover in the
staff position providing support for this board that
contributed to the deficiencies. She highlighted the
following from the audit pertaining to recommendation two:
DCBPL's chief investigator should increase oversight
to improve the timeliness of investigations.
The audit reviewed 22 of 145 cases open for over 180
days between July 2015 and May 2018. Twenty of the 22
cases were found to have unjustified periods of
inactivity ranging from two months to 18 months.
According to the chief investigator, periods of
inactivity were due, in part, to a lack of adequate
resources to investigate the large case load and
supervisors not adequately monitoring cases.
Ms. Curtis pointed to the following from the audit
pertaining to recommendation three:
The Office of the Governor, Boards and Commissions
director should work with the board to identify
potential applicants in a timely manner.
From July 2015 through May 2018, a licensed
transporter board position and a private landholder
board position were vacant for six months due to an
inability to identify interested applicants.
Furthermore, one board position occupied by a member
of the Board of Game was vacant for eight months
because Office of the Governor, Boards and Commissions
staff were not notified of the vacancy.
Ms. Curtis continued with the responses to the audit that
began on page 25 of the audit report. She communicated that
the commissioner of the Department of Commerce, Community
and Economic Development (DCCED) [Commissioner Julie
Anderson] agreed with recommendations one and two and had
taken steps to resolve the issues. She indicated that the
Office of the Governor responded to recommendation three
and assured that they would work diligently to fill the
vacancies in a timely manner. The boards chair response
began on page 29. The chair [Chairman Henry D. Tiffany IV]
agreed to work with the Office of the Governor to identify
interested board applicants. He noted that currently, all
the board positions were filled.
9:18:49 AM
Co-Chair Wilson asked about the issue regarding
transporters turning to air taxis instead of transporter
licenses. She wondered whether the issue had to do with a
statutory definition. Ms. Curtis deferred the question to
DCCED.
Representative Knopp discussed that the board was charged
with licensing transporters but there were three exemptions
for air carriers. Air carriers could transport hunters
without a transporter license if it was not the primary
business purpose of the carrier. He reported that he tried
to address the transporter licenses pertaining to water
taxis in the prior year, but the board opposed his
attempts. He had recently received a letter from the board
stating that they would not oppose the bill if the board
was authorized to decide who received the water transporter
license. Currently, the same exemption for air transport
did not apply to the marine industry. He pointed out that
the Alaska Marine Highway System lacked the exemption and
was prohibited from transporting hunters. He asked about
the plan for moving the bill from committee.
Co-Chair Wilson replied that the bill would be heard the
following day and any amendments would be considered at
that time.
Representative Josephson thought that the sunset extension
was pretty generous and expressed concerns. He reiterated
the audit conclusions and emphasized that seven license
files were missing or had outdated background checks
required by law. He understood that the board had done well
paying down the indebtedness and guessed that might have
played a role in the longer extension.
9:22:27 AM
Ms. Curtis replied that auditing was not an exact science.
She recounted that the division had just completed an audit
three years prior and both audits concluded the board was
serving the interest of the public. However, the 2015 audit
flagged the $1 million deficit. She indicated that the 2018
audit found the deficit erased and concluded that the
current recommendations were attributed to the division and
that the board served the public's interest. The factors
significantly impacted the auditor's decision regarding the
length of the extension.
Co-Chair Wilson asked to hear the audit findings related to
the Board of Barbers and Hairdressers.
Ms. Curtis reviewed the audit report titled, A Sunset
Review of the Department of Commerce, Community, and
Economic Development, Board of Barbers and Hairdressers
dated April 18, 2018. She read the report conclusions:
The audit concluded that the board operated in the
public's interest by effectively licensing the various
occupations under the board's purview. The board
monitored licensees and worked to ensure only
qualified individuals practice in Alaska.
In accordance with AS 08.03.010(c)(4), the board is
scheduled to terminate on June 30, 2019. We recommend
that the legislature extend the board's termination to
June 30, 2027.
Ms. Curtis turned the attention to page 6 that listed the
licensing activity. She listed the many occupations the
board regulated as follows: Barber, Body Piercing,
Esthetician, Hairdresser, Instructor, Manicurist, Tattooing
and Permanent Cosmetic Coloring, School Owner, Shop Owner,
and Student Instructors. She reported that as of January
31, 2018 there were 5,534 active licenses, a slight
increase from the 2010 audit. She highlighted that page 7
depicted the boards Schedule of Revenues and Expenditures
as of March 31, 2018. The board had a surplus of over $840
thousand. She reported that the division would engage in a
fee analysis in FY 19. The fee schedule was found on page 8
of the audit. The audit had no recommendations.
March 31, 2018 March 31, 2018
9:24:50 AM
SARA CHAMBERS, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF CORPORATIONS, BUSINESS
AND PROFESSIONAL LICENSING, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE,
COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, responded to the
previously expressed concerns by members. She related that
the audit findings were administrative concerns and were
not the fault of the board. The recommendations were
directed at the division to tighten up licensing procedures
and investigative documentation and to the governors
office regarding board vacancies. She communicated that the
audit was over one year old, and the division had
implemented changes in response. All the boards expenses
were borne by the licensees; therefore, the division tried
to keep a lean operation, which meant there was almost no
redundancy. The division had only one licensing examiner
for the Big Game Commercial Services Board and two for the
Board of Barbers and Hairdressers. In the event of a
vacancy a busy supervisor had to step in. She shared that
the division undertook an internal audit in response to the
BGCSB audit that discovered errors due to lack of resources
and oversight. The division hired records and licensing
supervisors and continue to redistribute duties to provide
adequate quality control. The investigative findings had
been a matter of needing to document when something was
open for a long period of time. She referenced
documentation by one individual that had raised concerns
about the board's inability to do its job. She clarified
that it was a private individual's opinion and was not the
finding of the audit. The division instituted new policies
and procedures to ensure that all investigators were
documenting any lack of activity for 30 days or more. She
delineated that currently, when something related to an
investigation was at the Department of Law (DOL) or with
the Alaska State Troopers or waiting for a respondent or
board review the auditor would be able to find
documentation regarding the status of the investigation,
which had been missing during the audit process. She
emphasized that the division had a great deal of
responsibility in what was audited, and the division had
taken responsibility for the inadequacies.
9:28:45 AM
Co-Chair Wilson asked if the air taxis and transporter
issue was a statute fix. Ms. Chambers answered that the
exemptions dealt with marketing and position of a
transporter. She elucidated that if an air taxi was
picking up hunters and the activity was ancillary to the
primary responsibility of the business and the carrier was
not specifically marketing to the guiding industry, they
were not required to have a transporter license. She
indicated that the activity was in statute and any change
had to be enacted by the legislature.
Co-Chair Wilson mentioned an investigation that was
reopened after 9 years and the licensee thought the matter
was closed. She wondered about the investigators
accountability. She thought that it appeared the board
could revisit investigations after significant periods of
time. Ms. Chambers was not familiar with the particular
investigation. She commented that no investigator should
arbitrarily reopen a case that was closed without a
triggering event. Co-Chair Wilson did not know whether it
was reopened or continued. She asked if there was a statute
of limitation regrading the issue. Ms. Chambers answered
that what Co-Chair Wilson was referencing should not be
taking place. She would follow up with Co-Chair Wilsons
staff. Co-Chair Wilson thought the issue was concerning.
9:31:19 AM
Representative Knopp deduced that the board carried out an
investigation based on a complaint. He relayed a story
where a guide had been charged with a DUI and the board had
decided the person's business practices should be
investigated. He was unsure whether the story was true. He
asked who would decide to investigate an issue. Ms.
Chambers answered that the division was complaint driven.
She explained that complaints were received from the
public, client, another guide, or trooper action. When a
complaint came in the department's staff conducted a review
and asked a board member to assist in determining whether
the complaint was jurisdictional. If the action appeared to
be a potential violation it progressed to an investigation.
Sometimes complaints were not jurisdictional matters. She
voiced that the BGCSB was a leader in reviewing what was
pertinent to public safety concerns. For example, when
determining whether a DUI was pertinent to a person's
license the board would consider whether the offense was
relevant to the individuals guiding or if it was
completely irrelevant.
9:34:24 AM
Representative Knopp clarified that he was wondering
whether the board would pursue an accusation if it did not
relate to the profession. Ms. Chambers answered that if
someone filed a complaint the division had a responsibility
to follow up. If the complaint was irrelevant and not
jurisdictional the division dropped it, but she understood
that it was disturbing to the respondent.
Representative Josephson asked who kept the physical files
the audit referred to. He asked if the division kept the
files. Ms. Chambers replied that the division had the files
as the administrative arm for all the boards.
Representative Josephson asked how the documents were
received. Ms. Chambers replied that the division received,
accepted, maintained, filed, scanned, and kept the files
pertaining to all aspects of licensing. The division
provided documentation to the board.
9:36:48 AM
Representative Josephson asked for verification that Ms.
Curtis or other auditors was physically going to the
division's office to examine files. Ms. Chambers responded
in the affirmative. Representative Josephson noted he may
have been heavy handed in his earlier remarks regarding the
BGCSB. He wanted to ensure that hunters followed the rules.
He acknowledged that the boards audit recommendations were
the divisions responsibility.
Representative Carpenter asked if there was a requirement
for individuals to self-report violations. Ms. Chambers
answered in the negative, but the division encouraged self-
reporting. She furthered that in most cases a responsible
guide would call in a violation that happened in error.
MAJOR BERNARD CHASTAIN, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, ALASKA WILDLIFE
TROOPERS, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY (via teleconference),
asked Representative Carpenter to repeat the question.
Representative Carpenter complied.
Mr. Chastain answered that AS 08.54.720 (a) (1)
specifically addressed violations by a licensee. He read
the statute:
(1) person who is licensed under this chapter to
knowingly fail to promptly report, unless a
reasonable means of communication is not
reasonably available, to the Department of Public
Safety, and in no event later than 20 days, a
violation of a state or federal wildlife or game,
guiding, or transportation services statute or
regulation that the person reasonably believes
was committed by a client or an employee of the
person;
Mr. Chastain explained that the statute required the guides
to report violations by a client or an employee, but they
were not required to self-incriminate.
9:40:19 AM
Vice-Chair Ortiz referenced that the division was complaint
driven and that DCCED was one of the most significantly cut
agencies over recent years. He asked if the agency was
having difficulty meeting its obligations due to cuts. Ms.
Chambers answered that the division was fortunate and did
not experience personnel cuts because it was self-funded.
However, the division was growing, because professions and
professionals wanted licensure, especially in healthcare.
She shared that the divisions staffing had not keep up
with the growing volume and demand for licensure. The
division had worked to make modest increases, but it was
not keeping up. She found that maintaining the balance
between keeping license fees reasonable and division costs
down was challenging. She commented that the division had
been working on potential solutions to reduce licensing
fees for many years, including asking the public to share
in the cost of licensure. Many licensing programs had very
expensive appeals of board decisions. Some investigations
cost in the hundreds of thousands of dollars; paid for by
the licensees. She recalled that former Representative Sam
Kito had introduced a bill the past year to try to mitigate
the situation that was not acted on.
9:43:30 AM
Representative Knopp remembered that the legislature had
consolidated all investigations into the Department of
Public Safety (DPS). He asked if it took away from the
department's timeliness in response to investigations. He
did not recall the outcome. Ms. Chambers answered that the
only recent consolidation attempt was the governor's
current administrative order that consolidated all the
states investigative services into DOL. The order would be
analyzed in the coming year.
Co-Chair Wilson interjected that the boards could also
choose to have its own investigator. She believed that
would remain an option for boards since their fees paid for
investigations. Ms. Chambers answered that the question
required a nuanced answer. Investigation were under the
statutory purview of the department. A few boards had their
own investigator via statute. She concluded that it would
probably not remain an option.
Co-Chair Wilson OPENED public testimony.
9:45:30 AM
VIRGIL UMPHENOUR, SELF, FAIRBANKS (via teleconference),
supported maintaining the board. He shared that he was a
master guide in North Pole and had been involved in the
management process of the states fish and game resources
for over 30 years. He listed some of his involvement that
included serving three terms on the Board of Fish. He
shared that in the 1990s the board had expired, and the
department had licensed some individuals with marginal
qualifications. He indicated that after the board had
resumed, the department became overzealous and conducted
many frivolous investigations. He declared that the
department had violated the intent of how claims were
investigated. He claimed that the department had denied
guides from petitioning the board under the Administrative
Procedures Act to clarify the intent of the regulations.
He voiced that the board was the only defense the public,
guides, and transporters had against overzealous
investigators and managers in the department who did not
understand what guides did for a living. He fully supported
the boards extension.
9:48:11 AM
WAYNE KUBAT, SELF, WASILLA (via teleconference), spoke in
support of the bill. He shared that he had been guiding
since 1981. He voiced that the game board provided a
valuable service to the public and industry. He felt that
the negative testimony was misleading and proven inaccurate
by DCCED. He believed that the board was doing a good job.
He determined that the bill had strong support from a broad
section of the public, the Department of Fish and Game
(DFG) and the Board of Game. He listed other entities
support for the board. He spoke to the boards responsible
stewardship of Alaska's wildlife resources and maintaining
the long-term viability of the guide industry. He supported
extending the board to the full extent possible.
9:50:40 AM
MARK RICHARDS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, RESIDENT HUNTERS OF
ALASKA (via teleconference), spoke against the bill. He did
not want the board extended for more than two years. He
maintained that the board had received three-year
extensions since 2005. He pointed to the boards debt, the
continued high number of complaints, and the backlog of
investigations that was included in every audit report. He
read an extract from the 2018 audit report:
A review of the board investigative activity
found 233 cases were open between July 2015 and
Mau 2018 and 80 remained open as of May 2018. The
audit reviewed 22 of 145 cases open for over 180
days between July 2015 and May 2018. Twenty of
the 22 cases were found to have unjustified
periods of inactivity ranging from two months to
18 months.
The prior recommendation to improve timeliness of
investigations was not resolved and is reiterated
as Recommendation 2.
Mr. Richards emphasized that the same recommendation was
included in all the other audits since 2005. He maintained
that the deficit was being resolved by turning to consent
agreements for guides who committed violations rather than
more costly administrative hearings. He claimed that he
attended a board meeting via teleconference where the board
approved 17 consent agreements resulting in minimal fines
and probation for violations ranging from wanton waste of
game, guide use area infractions, and herding grizzlies
with snow machines. He noted one instance where a guide
escorted 6 hunters without being certified and board
members excused his behavior as forgetfulness. He stated
that without repercussions the board had no incentive to
change. He reiterated his request that the committee only
support a two-year extension of the board. He wanted the
board to prove that it could resolve its problems.
9:54:58 AM
Co-Chair Wilson CLOSED public testimony.
CSSB 43(FIN) was HEARD and HELD in committee for further
consideration.
Co-Chair Wilson reported the bill would be heard the
following morning.
^RECESSED to a CALL of the CHAIR
9:56:01 AM
ADJOURNMENT
9:56:01 AM
The meeting was adjourned at 9:56 a.m.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB43HCS WORKDRAFT FIN v.S.pdf |
HFIN 5/13/2019 9:00:00 AM |
SB 43 |
| SB 43 B&H 3rd Q FY19.pdf |
HFIN 5/13/2019 9:00:00 AM |
SB 43 |
| SB 43 BBH Audit Final-Report-WEB.pdf |
HFIN 5/13/2019 9:00:00 AM |
SB 43 |