Legislature(2017 - 2018)BUTROVICH 205
03/21/2017 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS
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SB 34-DRIVER'S LICENSE & ID CARDS & REAL ID ACT
3:31:49 PM
CHAIR DUNLEAVY announced the consideration of Senate Bill 34,
(SB 34).
3:32:06 PM
SENATOR GIESSEL moved to adopt the committee substitute (CS) for
SB 34, version 30-GS1781\O, as the working document.
CHAIR DUNLEAVY objected for discussion purposes.
3:32:31 PM
CHRISTA MCDONALD, Staff, Senator Mike Dunleavy, Alaska State
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, provided an overview of the CS for
SB 34.
She referenced a document entitled, "Explanation of Changes" for
Senate CS for SB 24(STA), version: 30-GS1781\O, with commentary
as follows:
· Technical changes throughout the bill:
Legislative Legal has brought the language of
this legislation in line with the standards set
forth in the legislative drafting manual.
· Page 1, lines 9-11: AS 18.65.310(a) added a $5
fee to the production of a federally compliant
identification card.
The thought behind this was Commissioner Fisher
said by adding a $5 fee to identification cards
and a $10 fee to the compliant IDs, this give
them an opportunity to pay back the general fund
in receipts over the next 5 years.
· Page 2, lines 12-13: AS 18.65.310(p) requires
noncompliant identification cards to be produced
within the state.
Right now, all of our driver's licenses are being
produced outside of the state. So, if you select
a federally compliant license it still would be
processed outside the state in that database. If
you selected a noncompliant license it would
probably be processed in Anchorage or somewhere
central within the state.
· Page 2, lines 19-24: AS 28.05.068 adds a new
section that the department may not convey or
distribute information to an entity or individual
that is not a state agency beyond what is
necessary to administer driver's licensing under
AS 28.15 or the data authorized under AS
28.10.505
AS 28.15, this is our guidelines for our driver's
license, that you can't have a license in another
state or a revoked license in another state. So,
they will still be able to look at that and
analyze if you are eligible.
AS 28.10.505, this is the statute that says law
enforcement can go and get information from the
DMV, as well as courts and child support as well.
· Page 3, lines 17-20: AS 28.15.061(b)(6) adds
language that requires the department to provide
the applicant with information regarding how the
information will be stored, inform them of the
printing location and other pertinent information
regarding their application.
We are envisioning that they have all of the
information before them when they select a
compliant license or a noncompliant license, so
they know exactly what they are signing up for.
· Page 4, lines 29 - 31 to Page 5, lines 1 - 7: AS
28.15.111 adds a new subsection for noncompliant
licenses that requires an applicant's permission
before copying or retaining identity verification
documents, using facial recognition as part of
the application process, or before retaining
images or the applicants face. Also requires
printing of noncompliant driver's licenses to be
done within the state.
· Page 5, lines 30 - 31: AS 28.15.271(b)(4) added a
$10 fee to the production of a federally
compliant driver's license.
Under the previous version of the bill, this was
a $5 fee; so, this is again trying to recoup some
of those costs in the future years.
· Page 6, lines 16 - 19: AS 28.99.040(a)(2)
establishes that a state or municipal agency may
only authorize the minimum assets necessary to
satisfy the specific requirements of the REAL ID
Act of 2005 that provide for the agency to issue
a driver's license or identification card
acceptable to federal agencies for official
purposes.
The previous version of the bill repealed the
entire law, that was I believe in 2008 we passed
the law saying we wouldn't expend funds, so this
is saying you can expend funds, but only so far
as to deliver these IDs.
3:34:01 PM
SENATOR WILSON asked if noncompliant identification cards are
produced outside of Alaska and the legislation seeks to bring
the production process back to the state.
MS. MCDONALD answered correct. She specified that the bill would
mandate that all noncompliant ID cards as well as the
noncompliant driver's licenses are brought back for production
in Alaska.
3:37:13 PM
CHAIR DUNLEAVY remarked that there is a lot of concern about the
federal identification. He detailed that the intent of the CS is
to capture some of the concerns by dividing out a state driver's
license and a federally-tracked license. He reiterated that the
state driver's license will keep data in the state, does not
require facial recognition, and allows an individual to drive
their vehicle. He said the Real ID has a different track where
the individual signs up knowing their data may be shared with
other agencies and having to pay out of their pocket to help pay
for the process. He summarized that rather than combining the
two, the state and Real ID are separated so Alaskans can make a
choice.
SENATOR EGAN asked if one of the licenses cannot be used to get
on Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson (JBER).
CHAIR DUNLEAVY confirmed that the Alaska license will not allow
a person to get on JBER.
3:39:29 PM
SENATOR GIESSEL remarked that she appreciated the prudent
changes that Chair Dunleavy made. She specified that she
appreciated the fees that will help remunerate the Department of
Administration and noted her appreciation for providing a simple
driver's license that will be produced in-state again.
SENATOR COGHILL pointed out that the legislation mandates
through the department and suggested that the committee hear the
Department of Administration's perspective.
SENATOR WILSON asked if there will be an additional fiscal note
for producing driver's licenses in-state. He agreed that the
amended bill is a simpler process that addresses issues his
constituents have expressed to him regarding data collection,
but the bill also allows individuals to go through the Real ID
process as well.
CHAIR DUNLEAVY commended the Department of Administration and
Commissioner Fisher for understanding the concerns that Alaskans
have over their data as well as giving people a choice. He noted
that if the bill moves out of committee, the bill will not have
a fiscal note. He summarized that himself and others struggle
with the idea that the state must do something that the federal
government mandates; for example, threatening not to allow
people on military bases without a Real ID. He set forth that
the amended bill was a compromise that may work for Alaskans.
3:42:10 PM
At ease.
3:42:49 PM
CHAIR DUNLEAVY called the committee back to order.
3:43:00 PM
LESLIE RIDLE, Deputy Commissioner, Alaska Department of
Administration, Juneau, Alaska, noted that the department
concurred with Chair Dunleavy that Alaskans are offered a choice
between a REAL ID compliant or a REAL ID that is not compliant.
She pointed out that the department did not have a fiscal note
for equipment that would have to be purchased for the state to
produce IDs that are not REAL ID compliant.
SENATOR GIESSEL noted that the state used to make its own
driver's licenses and inquired if the department got rid of the
equipment used to make the licenses.
MS. RIDLE answered yes. She noted that the equipment was hard to
maintain. She added that the department does not know where to
get the equipment because a lot of states have gone to REAL ID
and are not producing their own IDs as well. She said the
department will have to do some research to figure out where to
get the equipment.
SENATOR COGHILL asked if the bill will narrow the department's
current data sharing to a level that separates data between the
REAL ID and in-state driver's licenses.
MS. RIDLE answered that under the CS, an individual's documents
would not be checked against passport or Social Security
databases and the documents would be taken at face value.
She addressed the bill's "immediate" effective date and noted
that the department would have trouble complying due to the
equipment required for in-state driver's licenses.
3:46:43 PM
CHAIR DUNLEAVY replied that the committee will make note of the
effective date and will work with the department if the bill
moves out of committee.
SENATOR WILSON asked if the state would have to pay for template
changes when printing licenses.
MS. RIDLE answered that she did not know. She assumed that
changes would require an additional charge.
3:47:52 PM
MARLA THOMPSON, Director, Division of Motor Vehicles, Alaska
Department of Administration, Anchorage, Alaska, asked Senator
Dunleavy to confirm that the division would not be able to keep
a photo on a noncompliant license. She pointed out that an
individual would not be able to obtain a duplicate ID online
without a photo on file.
CHAIR DUNLEAVY replied yes. He pointed out that there are people
that want to give a minimum amount of data for a driver's
license in Alaska so that sharing personal data is not easy.
MS. MCDONALD specified that in the CS: section 9, page 4, line
30, states that, "The department may not unless authorized by
the person." She detailed as follows:
If the department wanted to inform folks that they
couldn't receive a duplicate license unless they have
these items on hand and then someone selects to leave
these documents with the department, they would be
able to do that under this bill, the department has to
get the authorization of the person beforehand.
CHAIR DUNLEAVY explained that the intent is to be as transparent
as possible with the people of Alaska that they know what they
are willingly signing up for without coercion and that they
understand that certain data will be shared in a certain manner.
He opined that the bill addresses what the people of Alaska are
asking for. He admitted that the bill does place the burden on
the government. He asserted that data sharing is a sensitive
issue for many people.
3:50:36 PM
MS. THOMPSON addressed identification processes that would be
affected by the bill:
· The division relies on a photo to issue a duplicate
license. A fire in Anchorage recently destroyed
documents where not having a photo ID would be a
concern.
· Not having documents or old photos to produce IDs for
inmates being released from prisons.
· Providing out-of-state renewals for military personnel
with no photo on file because most renewals are done
by mail and other processes.
· Students who are in school that lose their license or
turn 21 and need a new license.
· Providing an ID without a photo would not be possible
for someone losing their ID while traveling.
· Processing online transactions would not be possible
without a photo on file.
· The Department of Public Safety uses photos on file a
lot, especially when pulling someone over to verify a
driver's license.
3:52:37 PM
CHAIR DUNLEAVY replied that he would address the identification
issue with prisoners and the use of photos by the Department of
Public Safety. He reiterated that people that checkoff the box
for not wanting duplicate information being kept are making a
conscious decision and understand that they will have to jump
through several more hoops when obtaining a duplicate license.
He repeated that folks are concerned about their rights
regarding data.
MS. THOMPSON added that she was also concerned about the risk of
fraud due to the no-photo policy when someone requests a
renewal.
CHAIR DUNLEAVY remarked that Ms. Thompson presented good
questions, but noted that most of her concerns have been thought
through. He remarked that there will always be a risk of fraud
no matter what type of identification a person gets, probably
including the REAL ID, over time.
3:55:11 PM
SENATOR WILSON asked if she knew the rate of how many folks who
were caught for fraud when trying to get a fraudulent license.
MS. THOMPSON replied that the average is five per month.
SENATOR WILSON asked how many IDs are processed per month.
MS. THOMPSON estimated that approximately 19,000 IDs are
processed per month.
SENATOR WILSON noted that the percentage is 5 fraudulent IDs per
month out of 19,000 IDs processed per month.
SENATOR GIESSEL commented that she had her identity stolen and
the experience was not pleasant. She pointed out that five
people per month were potentially stealing someone else's
identity.
3:57:21 PM
CHAIR DUNLEAVY opened public testimony on SB 34.
3:57:29 PM
RALPH DALE ROGERS, representing self, Ketchikan, Alaska,
explained that he owns a hostel and his address is often used by
guests who apply for a state identification. He disclosed that
he has been unable to remove his address that others use for
state identification. He revealed that he has continuously dealt
with law enforcement due to the use of his hostel's address in
identification records. He asked why the state does not require
proof of address by showing a mortgage payment, rental
agreement, or anything else that shows an individual resides in
the state.
CHAIR DUNLEAVY asked Ms. Thompson to address Mr. Rogers' problem
regarding address verification for identification.
MS. THOMPSON replied that she will do some research and get back
to Mr. Rogers. She explained that the Division of Motor Vehicles
has requirements that individuals show some type of mail or
letter. She set forth that the division may look at making the
identification process tighter.
4:01:01 PM
CHAIR DUNLEAVY suggested that Mr. Rogers contact Ms. Thompson
with his concern so that the division can get into details and
provide him with a response. He added that he expects the
division will get back to the committee with information as to
how they would deal with Mr. Rogers' issue.
MR. ROGERS noted that he has been dealing with his problem for
several years and has talked to the division multiple times. He
said he has been disappointed in the way his problem has been
handled. He said no one seems to care. He emphasized that he
does not like his address being used on anybody's ID. He opined
that his situation could be considered theft of identity by
address.
CHAIR DUNLEAVY asked Mr. Rogers to contact his office and he
would take his concerns to the Division of Motor Vehicles to get
an answer.
4:03:21 PM
ERIC GLATT, Staff Attorney, American Civil Liberties Union
(ACLU) of Alaska, Anchorage, Alaska, testified in support of SB
34. He stated that the ACLU of Alaska has expressed its concerns
in previous testimony regarding privacy implications imposed
from REAL ID on Alaskans. He set forth that the ACLU's primary
goals have been to make sure that Alaskans have their privacy
compromised as little as possible, even those that receive a
REAL ID card. He said the second goal is to make sure that there
is a meaningful distinction between the compliant and
noncompliant cards so that the promise of receiving a
noncompliant card is not a false promise. He said he is
encouraged by the CS. He noted previous ACLU testimony that
addressed concerns prior to the CS.
CHAIR DUNLEAVY asked that Mr. Glatt review the bill's CS and
respond to his office with his comments and concerns.
4:09:57 PM
DON ETHERIDGE, Lobbyist, Alaska AFL-CIO, Juneau, Alaska,
testified in support of SB 34. He set forth that the legislation
makes it easier for AFL-CIO membership to get on military bases
to do their work as well as to get on airplanes. He opined that
the risk associated with REAL ID is very minimal.
4:11:38 PM
BRYAN IMUS, Representative/President, Laborers Local 942,
Laborers International Union of North America, Fairbanks,
Alaska, testified in support of SB 34. He said the union is
supportive because REAL ID is optional, easier, and less
expensive than a passport card. He pointed out that military
bases require REAL ID and air travel will require REAL ID as
well.
4:12:54 PM
TERESA BRAND SHARPE, Manager, Golden Valley Electric
Association, Fairbanks, Alaska, testified in support of SB 34.
She said Golden Valley has infrastructure on five-military
installations and its utility personnel require access with REAL
ID.
4:13:42 PM
KEVIN POMEROY, Business Manager, Laborers Local 942, Laborers
International Union of North America, Fairbanks, Alaska,
testified in support of SB 34. He said union members need REAL
ID to access military installations as well as using REAL ID for
air travel without the need to also provide identification with
a passport.
4:15:24 PM
LAKE WILLIAMS, District Representative, International Union of
Operating Engineers (IUOE) Local 302, Fairbanks, Alaska,
testified in support of SB 34. He added that he is also the
president of the Fairbanks Building and Construction Trades
Council. He noted that the council passed a resolution that
supports SB 34 as well. He said the IUOE and the council believe
the legislation for REAL ID is necessary for workers to work on
the Slope, federal bases and rural work.
He remarked that the only bright spot in Fairbanks is the
federal work. He noted that the commanders from the military
bases cannot provide a straight answer as to what identification
will be accepted. He disclosed that union members have been told
members to get a passport. He set forth that Alaskans deserve an
opportunity to make a choice for themselves regarding REAL ID
compliant identification.
4:17:07 PM
MARIE RENSEL, representing self, Fairbanks, Alaska, testified in
opposition of SB 34. She specified that she supports the unions'
desire to be REAL ID compliant, but views the legislation to be
both illegal and unlawful.
4:20:23 PM
SCOTT EICKHOLT, President, Laborers Local 942, Laborers
International Union of North America, Fairbanks, Alaska,
testified in support of SB 34. He asked that the Legislature
allow the REAL ID option so that Alaskans can get to work and
earn money.
4:21:21 PM
AVES THOMPSON, Executive Director, Alaska Trucking Association,
Anchorage, Alaska, testified in support of SB 34. He said the CS
helps solve the problem of the option by providing people the
ability to get a compliant REAL ID license. He revealed that
there are nearly 33,000 Alaskans with commercial driver's
licenses (CDL) holders. He noted that both CDL and non-CDL
drivers have the need to enter military installations during
their daily deliveries. He said drivers will need to obtain the
federally recognized REAL ID compliant form of identification to
gain access to the military installations.
4:23:02 PM
MARK LERNER, Founder, Constitutional Alliance, Mountain View,
Arkansas, testified in opposition of SB 34. He stated that he
can appreciate that there are a lot of people that are in
support of the legislation because without a compliant license
they would not be able to go onto military installations, enter
certain federal buildings, or be able to fly. He opined that the
real issue is whether obtaining REAL ID compliance is being done
because the federal government is saying not obtaining compliant
identification that an individual will not be able to exercise
their rights.
4:26:49 PM
TOM ROTH, Chief Operating Officer, Anchorage School District,
Anchorage, Alaska, testified in support of SB 34. He provided
data on the district's daily educational commitment with Joint
Base Elmendorf-Richardson (JBER). He detailed that the district
provides education to approximately 1,600 students in addition
to the teachers and support staff that are involved. He stated
that the district believes in acting immediately regarding REAL
ID compliance to allow sufficient processing time for employees
to receive a compliant identification before the implementation
date on June 6.
4:29:00 PM
RICHARD SOBEL, Director, The Cyber Privacy Project, Chicago,
Illinois, testified in opposition of SB 34. He addressed four
issues with REAL ID that he perceives would be violate the U.S.
Constitution as follows:
1. REAL ID cannot be premised on congress's power to regulate
interstate commerce, a violation of the 10th Amendment.
2. REAL ID can prevent people from boarding federally
regulated aircrafts, a violation of a citizen's right to
travel.
3. REAL ID's digital photography violates free exercise of
religion.
4. REAL ID violates the right to free assembly if a government
building requires REAL ID for entry.
4:33:13 PM
SARAH LEFEBVRE, Committee Member, Greater Fairbanks Chamber of
Commerce, Fairbanks, Alaska, testified in support of SB 34. She
said the chamber is concerned about the cost of inaction. She
asserted that Fairbanks and the state would realize an adverse
economic impact if the legislation is not passed. She disclosed
that the military accounts for one third of the economy in the
Fairbanks North Star Borough. She asserted that Alaska's
continued noncompliance with the REAL ID Act would create a
barrier to Alaskan businesses that would otherwise be involved.
She said ironically, the state's efforts to encourage local-hire
would be thwarted because out-of-state workers from states with
REAL ID compliant identification would be hired.
4:35:25 PM
MATT FLANDERS, Legislative Specialist, Citizens' Council for
Health Freedom, St. Paul, Minnesota, testified in opposition of
SB 34. He said not voting for SB 34 would protect Alaska's state
rights, data privacy, and the right to travel.
4:38:30 PM
SHARICE WALKER, Director, Community and Public Relations,
Fairbanks North Star Borough School District, Fairbanks, Alaska,
testified in support of SB 34. She disclosed that the school
district includes three schools on Eielson Air Force Base and
one school on Fort Wainwright that serve approximately 1,400
students and accounts for approximately 10 percent of the
district's student population. She added that 162-regular staff
in addition to district-wide employees visit the military
installations' schools. She stated that without a REAL ID
option, hundreds of the district's staff members will have to
get a passport just to continue doing their jobs.
4:40:46 PM
JULIE DUQUETTE, employee, Slayden Plumbing and Heating, Inc.,
North Pole, Alaska, testified in support of SB 34. She said REAL
ID is important to Slayden Plumbing and Heating because the
company has several contracts in 2017 as well as high profile
projects at Eielson Air Force Base, Fort Wainwright, and Clear
Air Force Station Base.
4:42:34 PM
EDWARD HASBROUCK, Consultant, The Identity Project, San
Francisco, California, testified in opposition of SB 34. He
pointed out that the REAL ID Act requires compliant states to
make their license and ID database available to any other state.
He added that passport cards can be used on military bases and
are easier to obtain. He asked that the Legislature defend
Alaskans' freedom of travel.
4:46:58 PM
PATRICIA ANDERSON, Co-Director, Alaskans' Freedom to Travel USA,
Anchorage, Alaska, testified in opposition of SB 34. She set
forth that there is no reason to have to give up any more
information to the federal government. She believes that
Alaska's constitution guarantees an individual's privacy.
4:47:10 PM
DIANE SHANKER, Co-Director, Alaskans' Freedom to Travel USA,
Anchorage, Alaska, testified in opposition of SB 34. She
conceded that people would be "convenienced" by the bill, but
emphasized that making it easier to give up one's right is not a
good idea. She set forth that federal anti-terrorism initiatives
end up compromising privacy and personal data. She asked if the
REAL ID fees will offset the legislation's $1.5 million cost to
the Division of Motor Vehicles.
CHAIR DUNLEAVY replied that REAL ID fees will offset the cost,
but noted that the issue is still being worked out.
4:50:34 PM
RYAN TIPTON, representing self, Fairbanks, Alaska, testified in
support of SB 34. He said the legislation will help Alaskans in
travel and provide working opportunities at federal
installations.
4:52:04 PM
JACE DIGEL, Business Representative, Teamsters Local 959,
Anchorage, Alaska, testified in support of SB 34. He noted that
Teamsters' union workers provide services on the military bases.
He set forth that the meaningful things to do is pass SB 34 to
offer all Alaskans a REAL ID compliant driver's license or
identification.
4:54:28 PM
PAM GOODE, representing self, Deltana, Alaska, testified in
opposition of SB 34. She set forth that the purpose of governing
is to protect people's rights, not to give a choice as to
whether to protect rights or not. She noted that current
passport cards can easily be used for identification. She said
there always seems to be a good reason to violate or compromise
the constitution.
4:58:26 PM
KAREN PERRY, representing self, Chugiak, Alaska, testified in
opposition of SB 34. She said the Alaska Constitution states
that citizens have a right to privacy. She set forth that the
Legislature does not have the right to pass bills that usurp
Alaskan's right to privacy. She opined that the REAL ID Act
lacks the legitimacy that comes from having been studied,
debated, considered and directly voted upon by elected
representatives.
5:02:12 PM
TIM JONES, Vice President of Administration, Doyon Utilities,
Fairbanks, Alaska, testified in support of SB 34. He detailed
that Doyon Utilities owns, operates and maintains the utility
infrastructure for the water, waste water, electrical production
and distribution at Fort Wainwright, Fort Greely, and the Fort
Richardson site of JBER. He said Doyon's 170 employees require
access to military installations and failure to pass SB 34 would
place an undue burden on Doyon's employees and other Alaskan
military contractors. He noted that the CS addresses privacy
concerns that allows for an alternate form of identification.
5:03:36 PM
MICHAEL CHAMBERS, representing self, Anchorage, Alaska,
testified in opposition of SB 34. He set forth that all state
legislators have taken a vow to protect the U.S. Constitution,
even against the tyranny of the federal government.
5:04:37 PM
LYNETTE CLARK, Chairman, Alaskan Independence Party, Fairbanks,
Alaska, testified in opposition of SB 34. She said the REAL ID
Act is a federal intrusion. She remarked that she questioned
Alaska's unions that referenced "convenience of their members"
as a reason for passing the legislation.
5:06:41 PM
WILLIAM TOPEL, representing self, Anchorage, Alaska, testified
in opposition of SB 34. He set forth that the REAL ID Act is a
violation of both the U.S. Constitution and the Alaska
Constitution. He said he questioned why regular Alaskans should
be burdened with the REAL ID Act to secure their identification.
He asked that federalizing state activities and functions not be
allowed via the REAL ID Act.
5:10:50 PM
BRIAN DUFFY, Director, Administrative Services, Alaska
Department of Military and Veterans' Affairs, Joint Base
Elmendorf-Richardson (JBER), Richardson, Alaska, testified in
support of SB 34. He provided an overview on the pending
deadline at Alaska's military installations if the REAL ID Act
in not enacted as follows:
Federal installations such as JBER and others in the
state are complying with provisions of the REAL ID Act
now. Visitors who wish to obtain unescorted access and
do not of Department of Defense (DOD) identification
cards or others compliant with the REAL ID Act are
being denied entry or being required to be escorted by
a DOD ID cardholder while on the installation; this
includes individuals with driver's license from Maine,
Missouri, Montana, or those with non-enhanced licenses
from Minnesota and Washington. As discussed previously
if there is no change in statute by Alaska, Alaska's
extension expiration date of June 6, Alaska's driver's
license and similar identification cards from 6 other
states, assuming no change from them as well, will
simply be added to the listing of the identification
cards that are not sufficient for the individuals to
gain access.
JBER leaders, and we talked a lot about numbers and
types of people, JBER leaders estimate approximately
14,000 contractors and local service providers may be
affected and required to have alternative forms of
identification. I think it would be unreasonable to
expect the installation to provide an escort for each
of those people on a routine basis. Numbers up north:
Fort Wainwright, about 5,000 per month; and Eielson,
about 2,600 per month. So, just in terms of process,
about 50 different mission partners on the base, we've
heard from many of them already including the school
district, Aurora Housing, Doyon and others.
Now, for State of Alaska employees such as those that
work for the Department of Military & Veterans Affairs
(DMVA), about 260 of them right now, the way it works
is the base will issue them what's called a Defense
Biometrics Identification System (DBIDS) card, so what
is used to-date to get that in many cases is the
current Alaska driver's license. On the 6th of June,
assuming no change, that Alaska driver's license no
longer is adequate, they'll have to find some other
form of identification that complies with the REAL ID
Act. So, we think what will happen is those DBIDS
cards will expire on their normal term, they will not
all drop dead on June 6, but they will expire on their
normal term, but when the individual comes in to
renew, they will have to have, assuming no change in
the statute, a REAL ID form of ID to get that DBIDS
card for routine access on and off the installation.
It's important to note not only does it affect our
State of Alaska employees and DMVA, and other agencies
that require access to the installation, all of the
different mission partners that you have heard from as
well, but our current class of Alaska Military Youth
Academy cadets that are indoctrinating as we speak and
will probably will arrive on campus within the next
week or so, for those that are 18 and above, that REAL
ID compliant form of ID will be critical for them to
be issued and receive a base-access card so that for
community events for which they go off base, or
medical appointments for which they go off base, they
can then return on to the installation and resume
their 22-week program.
5:14:01 PM
SENATOR WILSON asked what the plan is for the worst-case
scenario.
MR. DUFFY reiterated that the number of contractors that would
be affected is approximately 14,000. He explained that one of
three things will happen: they will be turned away; there will
be some form of interim escort, an unsustainable idea; or the
folks seeking unescorted access will find a way to get some form
of REAL ID compliant ID to gain access.
SENATOR WILSON asked if base services would have to stop due to
REAL ID issues for base contractors and if the possible stoppage
is part of the military installations' contingency plans.
MR. DUFFY replied that the military installations have no waiver
authority and there should be no expectation for a waiver to be
issued.
5:15:20 PM
CHAIR DUNLEAVY removed his objection, closed public testimony,
and held SB 34 in committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB 34, Version O.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 34 |
| SB 34 - Letters of Support 03.20.17.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 34 |
| SB 34 - Letter of Opposition 02.28.17.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 34 |
| HB 16 - Version D.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| CS for SB 34 - Summary of Changes.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 34 |
| CS for HB 16 - Summary of Changes.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| SB 34 - Letter of Support - Teamsters Local 959.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 34 |
| SB 34 - Letter from ACLU.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 34 |
| SB 34 - Letter from Identity Project.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 34 |
| SB 34 - Written Testimony 03.21.17.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 34 |
| SB 34 - ACLU Letter March 13, 2017.pdf |
SSTA 3/21/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 34 |