Legislature(2017 - 2018)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)
02/02/2017 03:30 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS
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| Audio | Topic |
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| Start | |
| SB39 | |
| SB9 | |
| SB39 | |
| SB28 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| += | SB 9 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 39 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | SB 28 | TELECONFERENCED | |
SB 28-MUNICIPAL LAND SELECTIONS: PETERSBURG
3:50:34 PM
CHAIR BISHOP announced SB 28 to be up for consideration.
MELISSA KOOKESH, staff to Senator Bert Stedman, Alaska State
Legislature, sponsor of SB 28, testified that this measure would
give the Petersburg Borough an opportunity to grow, generate
revenue, and increase economic development from nearby lands.
For several months Senator Stedman's office and representatives
from the Petersburg Borough have reviewed the bill with the
Alaska Department of Natural Resources (DNR), and discussed
where the borough selections would occur, and they have no
objection to the bill.
She reviewed the bill: Section 1 adds subparagraph (16) to AS
29.65.010(a) that sets the general land grant entitlement for
the Petersburg Borough at 14,666 acres. This is an increase of
12,770 acres from its current level of entitlement.
Section 2 of the bill is a conforming amendment to allow the
borough time to make its new additional selections. Section 3 is
also a conforming amendment to allow the land selection process
at DNR to apply to the new Petersburg land selection.
3:52:43 PM
Section 4 is an immediate effective date.
3:53:12 PM
SENATOR GARDNER asked how the original allocation is calculated
and where the 14,666 acre figure comes from.
3:53:32 PM
DAVID SCOTT, staff to Senator Bert Stedman, sponsor of SB 28,
Alaska State Legislature, answered that DNR and the Borough of
Petersburg came up with the number.
SENATOR GARDNER added that she was thinking if Petersburg gets
to increase their allocation, will the other 15 beneficiaries
say they weren't treated fairly and need to increase theirs,
too.
3:54:36 PM
MARK JENSEN, Mayor, Borough of Petersburg, Petersburg, Alaska,
supported SB 28. He explained the way they arrived at this
number is that it is an equal percentage of land that the other
15 boroughs that have already formed ahead of them have
received. So Petersburg is just trying to get up to par with the
other boroughs that have received additional land.
He explained that when the borough was formed in 2013, they were
allowed to select 10 percent of their area, which was 18-plus
thousand acres. Since they already had 400 and some acres in the
city limits they were allowed to select 1440 more acres. They
are now asking for the other 14,666 acres just to get up to par
with the volume as the other boroughs did.
SENATOR MACKINNON asked DNR why she didn't see a fiscal note,
because she assumed the land is coming from the State of Alaska
selections. Where was the value determination of what would be
moving as far as gravel rights, use of public facilities or
whatever the borough would like to use the land for?
3:57:07 PM
MARTY PARSONS, Deputy Director, Division of Mining, Land and
Water, Department of Natural Resources (DNR), Anchorage, Alaska,
said the department submitted a zero fiscal note.
SENATOR MACKINNON asked if he was telling her that land is
valued at zero.
MR. PARSONS answered no; the land is not valued at zero. He was
saying the fiscal note is what it would cost the division to
process the additional land.
SENATOR MACKINNON said the fiscal note has a spot for listing
the capital value of the property. She understands there is a
zero fiscal note for operations for the state, but considering
the $3 billion deficit, there should be a value associated with
the acreage in that transfer.
MR. PARSONS said that is correct, but the state does not
necessarily inventory its land on an acre by acre basis. The
value is indeterminate, although there is gravel and timber on
it.
3:59:34 PM
SENATOR MACKINNON said she knows that Petersburg needs resources
and assets at their disposal to help their community, but saying
the value of the land is indeterminate is not a satisfactory
answer. A value needs to be established on the property. If they
haven't done it before, it needs to be done now.
4:00:26 PM
MR. PARSONS said he could pull those numbers together.
4:00:52 PM
CHAIR BISHOP asked if the DNR maintains an overriding royalty on
top of what the borough can charge a contractor for using sand
and gravel.
MR. PARSONS answered no. Once those lands are conveyed, the
municipality is given management authority and it's theirs to
sell the material and land and reap the benefits.
4:01:46 PM
At ease
4:02:04 PM
CHAIR BISHOP said that request was in to DNR and he opened
public testimony.
4:02:40 PM
MR. JENSEN added that they worked with the DNR after borough
formation on the original 1,400 acres and they have been working
with them on the additional parcels and he has not heard any
opposition.
4:03:43 PM
CHAIR BISHOP closed public testimony on SB 28 and held the bill
in committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| PEDC_sb28.pdf |
SCRA 2/2/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 28 |
| SB 28 Hearing Request Packet.pdf |
SCRA 2/2/2017 3:30:00 PM |
SB 28 |
| PSG boro land graphic.pdf |
SCRA 2/2/2017 3:30:00 PM |