Legislature(2011 - 2012)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)
02/23/2012 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE
| Audio | Topic |
|---|---|
| Start | |
| SB175 | |
| SB122 | |
| SB25 | |
| SB174 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| += | SB 25 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 175 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 122 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 174 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 116 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | SB 190 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 168 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 138 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 157 | TELECONFERENCED | |
SB 25-AIDEA SUSTAINABLE ENERGY PROGRAM
2:15:50 PM
CHAIR EGAN announced consideration of SB 25.
2:16:02 PM
SENATOR PASKVAN moved to bring CSSSSB 25( ), version 27-
LS0290\E, before the committee for purposes of discussion. There
were no objections and it was so ordered.
MIKE PAWLOWSKI, staff to Senator McGuire, sponsor of SB 25,
explained the committee substitute (CS). He said that the bill
is about empowering and creating a new fund within the Alaska
Industrial and Development and Export Authority (AIDEA) to take
a portion of Alaska's savings and put it to work within the
state, financing the construction and development of energy
projects.
In the previous committee hearing, he said that Mr. Davis from
AIDEA testified that some technical amendments were needed to
ensure the ability to bond and to clarify the definition of
energy in the interest rate provisions.
MR. PAWLOWSKI reviewed the CS starting with Section 8 on page 6
where language in section 10 amended AS 44.88.159 that sets the
interest rates for AIDEA. He noted multiple different sources of
revenue that finance projects were also within that statute. So
AIDEA suggested clarifying that the new interest rate is applied
only to the new fund being created. So, sections 8, 9, 11 and 12
all amend different portions of AS 44.88.159 to ensure that the
interest rates are consistent with current practice. The
important thing about that is to ensure that AIDEA isn't giving
away money, but rather collecting an interest rate, earning
money on the investment that it makes. This is not a grant
program and is not designed to be one. Further, it also conforms
with the private sector so it doesn't crowd out Alaska's
financial institutions from the work they do in providing
capital.
2:18:42 PM
The next substantive change was on page 10, line 14, in a new
subsection within the powers and duties of the Authority. He
explained that AS 44.88.090 allows AIDEA to issue bonds and
borrow against the proceeds from the projects that it has
invested in. This section applies to that chapter. It was
originally the sponsor's thought that since this new section was
within the chapter, that power would apply to AIDEA in carrying
out the duties of this fund. AIDEA believed that making that
explicit strengthened the bill. So a new section makes it
extremely clear that AIDEA does have the ability to leverage
capital markets against the assets that it has loaned.
MR. PAWLOWSKI said the other material change was on page 10,
line 4. In the previous version, language was left in that said
"subject to lender approval defer principal payments" in that
AIDEA under this program is the lender. This was redundant
language that legal said could be taken out.
The final change was on page 11, line 4, in the definition of
"energy project." In the previous version the "transmission,
generation, storage or distribution of electricity" was the
description. And in working with more energy groups over the
Interim since the previous hearing, it was brought up that
several energy projects might not actually generate electricity
but could be used for heat, biomass being the most important of
those, and the goal was not to preclude AIDEA from helping that
type of energy project.
2:20:38 PM
SENATOR MENARD said she appreciated the format of his
presentation.
MR. PAWLOWSKI then pointed out a mistake on page 1, section 5,
and said this bill in no way deals with sport fishing guide
licenses and that would get fixed.
2:21:29 PM
SENATOR PASKVAN asked the AIDEA director to explain the
leveraging component on page 10, line 14.
MARK DAVIS, Director, Alaska Industrial Development and Export
Authority (AIDEA), responded that one of the concerns they had
with the original bill was that although the chapter says AIDEA
could issue bonds and borrow money, the language didn't
explicitly apply to the new fund. Bankers and lawyers tend to be
very careful, and in looking for a guarantee of leveraging they
want explicit statutory authority. The way it would work is that
now AIDEA could issue a bond to raise money for a loan or,
assuming there is some appropriation with this bill which there
is not, it could use those monies, or it could use its current
reserves. So, it gives AIDEA the flexibility to pick the best
pot of money to get the project going with the least possible
cost. This bill suggests that AIDEA put no more than one third
into a loan, which is already internal policy.
SENATOR PASKVAN asked if AIDEA would fund a $250 million project
with $80 million as the first step.
MR. DAVIS replied yes.
SENATOR PASKVAN asked if there is more leveraging once the $80
million is locked in.
MR. DAVIS replied that depends on how the deal is structured and
every transaction is different.
SENATOR PASKVAN asked at what point further legislative approval
enters into the process.
MR. DAVIS replied at the appropriation level, but even without
an appropriation, should this bill pass, AIDEA could issue a
bond to raise money for an energy loan.
SENATOR MENARD asked if there is a good reason the word
"leverage" is not part of the language.
MR. DAVIS replied that "leverage" is a term of art for putting
together financial packages, but it's not language that would be
put into a statute.
2:25:49 PM
MR. PAWLOWSKI pointed out language on page 8, line 28 through
page 10, line 22, requires legislative approval for projects
over $20 million.
2:27:10 PM
SENATOR PASKVAN moved to report CSSSSB 25(L&C) from committee
with individual recommendations and attached fiscal note. There
were no objections and it was so ordered.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB 125 lttr supporting, AADA.pdf |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 125 |
| SB 125 Purpose of bill.PDF |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 125 |
| SB 125 Sectional Analysis - 2-3-12.pdf |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 125 |
| SB 125 Sponsor Statement.PDF |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 125 |
| SB 25 lttr supporting, AGC.pdf |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 25 |
| SB 25 lttr supporting, ARCTEC 021512.pdf |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 25 |
| SB 25 lttr supporting, MEA 021512.pdf |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 25 |
| SB 25 lttr supporting, RDC corrected 021712.pdf |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 25 |
| SB025-DCCED-AIDEA-02-10-12 (A).pdf |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 25 |
| SB025-DCCED-AIDEA-02-10-12 (B).pdf |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 25 |
| SB 25 ASSETS version E.PDF |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 25 |
| SB 25 lttr supporting, AIPPA 021612.pdf |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 25 |
| SB 175 CS L&C v B DRAFT.PDF |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 175 |
| SB 116 lttr opposing, ANC Muni Risk Mgt..pdf |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 116 |
| SB 116 lttr opposing, ABC 022212.PDF |
SL&C 2/23/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 116 |