Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/07/2025 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ SB 34 REPEAL 90 DAY SESSION LIMIT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled:
+= SB 24 TOBACCO/NICOTINE/E-CIG AGE; E-CIG TAX TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 24(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
= SB 92 CORP. INCOME TAX; OIL & GAS ENTITIES
Moved CSSB 92(FIN) Out of Committee
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
SENATE BILL NO. 24                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An   Act  relating   to  tobacco,   tobacco  products,                                                                    
     electronic  smoking  products, nicotine,  and  products                                                                    
     containing  nicotine;   raising  the  minimum   age  to                                                                    
     purchase,  exchange,  or  possess  tobacco,  a  product                                                                    
     containing nicotine, or  an electronic smoking product;                                                                    
     relating  to the  tobacco use  education and  cessation                                                                    
     fund; relating  to the  taxation of  electronic smoking                                                                    
     products  and  vapor  products; and  providing  for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:13:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman relayed that  the committee first heard the                                                                    
bill on April 1 and  had taken public testimony and reviewed                                                                    
the  fiscal note  at the  time. The  amendment deadline  was                                                                    
April 11,  and the co-chairs  had received one  amendment. A                                                                    
small technical change  was brought to the  attention of the                                                                    
committee after the amendment  deadline. The committee would                                                                    
consider the amendment.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:14:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR    GARY   STEVENS,    SPONSOR,   reintroduced    the                                                                    
legislation.   He  explained   that  the   bill  was   about                                                                    
protecting  children   from  becoming  addicted.   The  bill                                                                    
restricted  sales and  possession  of  nicotine products  by                                                                    
young  people. The  bill was  an effort  to push  back on  a                                                                    
multi-billion industry trying to  addict young people to the                                                                    
substances.  The bill  raised the  legal age  to buy,  sell,                                                                    
use,  and  possess  cigarettes, nicotine  products,  and  e-                                                                    
cigarettes to  21. He  relayed that  taxing of  the products                                                                    
was shown to reduce consumption.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:15:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM LAMKIN,  STAFF, SENATOR GARY  STEVENS, relayed  that the                                                                    
bill  was  very  similar  to  a bill  that  had  passed  the                                                                    
committee  previously.   He  asked   if  he   should  review                                                                    
components of the bill or address members questions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:15:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if SB  24 was identical to  the bill                                                                    
passed in the committee one  year previously. He asked about                                                                    
an effective date change.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:15:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin  replied that  there was a  slight change  to the                                                                    
bill from the Senate Labor and Commerce Committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked about the change.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin  explained that there  was an exemption  added to                                                                    
the  bill  related  to  online  sales  of  cigars  and  pipe                                                                    
tobacco.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  relayed that the committee  would consider                                                                    
amendments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:16:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment 1, 34.LS0260\1. I,                                                                    
Nauman, 4/2/25 (copy on file):                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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     products and vapor products;"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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     smoking products not taxed under this chapter"                                                                             
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     smoking products not taxed under this   chapter"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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     smoking product under this chapter has been paid"                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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9:16:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:17:03 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:17:05 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman  explained that  the amendment  would remove                                                                    
the tax  component of  the bill, which  he thought  had been                                                                    
the  impediment  to  the   legislation  moving  forward.  He                                                                    
thought  the  bill  would  do  good  work  without  the  tax                                                                    
component.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman asked  for the  sponsors  position  on the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:17:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens appreciated  the amendment sponsors  thought                                                                    
process. He  contended that  the tax  caused less  usage [of                                                                    
tobacco products].  He used the  example of the  tobacco tax                                                                    
and  noted that  every  time the  legislature increased  the                                                                    
tax,  consumption  was  reduced.   He  was  opposed  to  the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:18:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman thought it had  been reported that there was                                                                    
already headway  being made  on the intent  of the  bill. He                                                                    
thought the bill might be getting  in its own way of getting                                                                    
into statute.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman  MOVED to WITHDRAW Amendment  1. There being                                                                    
NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:19:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment 2,  34-LS0260\I.2,                                                                    
Nauman, 5/5/25 (copy on file):                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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Co-Chair Hoffman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:19:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl explained  the amendment,  which was  a small                                                                    
technical  fix related  to putting  18-year-olds in  a group                                                                    
with  19-  and 20-year-olds  in  the  context of  getting  a                                                                    
ticket and not a mandatory court appearance.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:20:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens appreciated and supported the amendment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman WITHDREW  his  objection.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:20:39 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:21:55 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl MOVED  to REPORT  SB 24  from committee  with                                                                    
individual recommendations and  attached fiscal notes. There                                                                    
being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CSSB  24(FIN) was  REPORTED out  of committee  with two  "do                                                                    
pass"  recommendations,  one "amend"  recommendation,  three                                                                    
"no  recommendations";   one  new   fiscal  note   from  the                                                                    
Department of  Revenue, and seven previously  published zero                                                                    
fiscal notes:  FN 1(CED), FN  2(ADM), FN 3(ADM),  FN 4(DOH),                                                                    
FN 6(DPS), FN 7(AJS), FN 8(LAW).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:22:41 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:26:56 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 34, Version A.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
SSTA 3/18/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 Sectional Analysis.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
SSTA 3/18/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 Supporting Document.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
SSTA 3/18/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 Opposition Koan.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 34
SB 24 Testimony Andrew W Hb49 and sb24.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 49
SB 24
SB 24 Major New WHO Report Highlights Sweden's Smoke Free Success - Smoke Free Sweden 2024.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 24 Amendment 2 Kiehl.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 24
SB 24 Amendment 1 Kaufman.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 24
SB 24 - Research - Article - People Magazine - Teen Popcorn Lung.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 24
SB 34 Support Document- WTI Oil Prices 2000-2025.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 34
SB 24 Public Testimony McDonald.pdf SFIN 5/7/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 24