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03/31/2025 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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*+ SB 21 AK WORK & SAVE PROGRM; RETIRE. SAVINGS BD TELECONFERENCED
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        SB  21-AK WORK & SAVE PROGRM; RETIRE. SAVINGS BD                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:43:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.  21 "An  Act establishing  the                                                               
Alaska Work and Save Program;  establishing the Alaska Retirement                                                               
Savings Board; and providing for an effective date."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:43:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:43:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK moved to adopt  the committee substitute (CS) for                                                               
SB 21, work order 34-LS0254\N, as the working document.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:43:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:44:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MAXINE LABERGE,  Staff, Senator  Bill Wielechowski,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, presented  SB 21  on behalf  of the                                                               
sponsor and moved to slide 2, What is Alaska Work and Save:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
        • Establishes an auto-IRA program for all Alaskan                                                                       
          employees who qualify.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        • Creates an option to allow PFD checks to go                                                                           
          toward retirement.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        SB 21 would be established in the Department of                                                                       
                            Revenue                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • The   Commissioner,   or    designee,   would   be                                                                    
          responsible for establishing, executing and                                                                           
          creating appropriate rules for program                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        • Allows discretion to partner with other states to                                                                     
          lower costs even more for participants                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:45:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN asked for and explanation of the difference                                                                      
between the committee substitute and the current legislation.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:427 PM                                                                                                                      
HUNTER LOTTSFELDT, Staff, Senator Bill Wielechowski, Alaska                                                                     
State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, presented the explanation of                                                                 
changes from version A to version N of SB 21:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 4 Amending AS 44.25                                                                                                   
     AS 44.25.400  Changes the administration of  the Alaska                                                                    
     Work and Save program from  a board to the commissioner                                                                    
     of revenue or their designee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     AS  44.25.410  Defines  the   purpose  of  the  program                                                                    
     instead of  establishing the Alaska  Retirement Savings                                                                    
     Board                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     AS  44.25.420  Defines the  powers  and  duties of  the                                                                    
     program administrator instead of  the powers and duties                                                                    
     of the board                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     AS   44.25.430   Outlines    the   confidentiality   of                                                                    
     information for  program participants  in place  of the                                                                    
     assigned the attorney general as  legal council for the                                                                    
     board.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      AS 44.25.440 Outlines the complaint process for the                                                                       
     program in place of compensation for trustee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     AS 44.25.450-470 are deleted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      AS 44.25.490 adjusts the definitions to comport with                                                                      
     the change from a board structure to an administrator                                                                      
     structure.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
       Sec. 5 is changed from uncodified law setting the                                                                        
        initial appointment for the board to setting the                                                                        
     effective date.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 6 is deleted.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:46:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN removed his objection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:46:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN found no further objection and CSSB 21 was                                                                       
adopted as the working document.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. LABERGE continued with slide 2:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        -Establishes an auto-IRA program for all Alaskan                                                                        
                     employees who qualify.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Program Participants                                                                                                     
        • Would be enrolled automatically upon hiring                                                                           
        • Can decide to opt-out or adjust rate                                                                                  
        • May contribute PFD towards their retirement                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:47:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. LABERGE moved to slide 3, Why Does Alaska Need an Auto IRA                                                                  
program:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   • 54 percent of households have no retirement savings                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   • Alaskans aged 60+ account for 20 percent of the                                                                            
     population and growing                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   • Median retirement savings for ages 65-74 is $200,000,                                                                      
     age 75+ is $130,000                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LABERGE said  that  Alaska needs  an  Auto IRA  program                                                                    
because it  helps strengthen small businesses,  provides for                                                                    
Alaska's  aging population,  makes  jobs  more appealing  to                                                                    
applicants,  and growing  evidence shows  it saves  money in                                                                    
the long run.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:47:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. LABERGE moved to slide 4, Survey of Alaska Small Businesses:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     A recent survey of small businesses in Alaska shows:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   • 64 percent don't offer retirement of any kind, with                                                                        
     cost being the biggest factor                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   • 70 percent support an Alaskan retirement savings                                                                           
     option                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Current Cost of an IRA program for businesses:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
       A survey of 121 plans with less than $2 million in                                                                       
     assets found that:                                                                                                         
          •    provider fees could vary from $4,800 to                                                                          
          $17,000per year (this figure does not include                                                                         
          investment fees)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. LABERGE stated that a small business is considered a                                                                        
business with less than 500 employees and in Alaska 99 percent                                                                  
of the businesses are considered small businesses.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:48:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. LABERGE moved to slide 5, SB 21 Supports Small Businesses:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   • 12th year of out-migration of working aged Alaskans                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   • Work and Save eliminates the high costs and                                                                                
     bureaucracy for businesses                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   • Allows small businesses to:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
             Better recruit and retain employees                                                                                
            Stay competitive with larger businesses                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:49:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. LABERGE moved to slide 6, Other States Have Already Started:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        • As of this year, 17 other states have enacted                                                                         
          their own auto-IRA programs                                                                                           
          -Of those 17 states, 7 of them have entered                                                                           
          partnership agreements.                                                                                               
             -Colorado   Partnership    for   a    Dignified                                                                    
     Retirement (PDR):  Colorado, Maine,  Delaware, Vermont,                                                                    
     Nevada                                                                                                                     
             -MyCTSavingsProgram: Connecticut and Rhode                                                                         
             Island                                                                                                             
        • Interstate partnerships allow for faster enaction                                                                     
          and possibly lower fees.                                                                                              
        • Similar federal legislation has recently been                                                                         
          proposed                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:49:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. LABERGE moved to slide 7, Summary:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB  21   will  create  a  system   like  other  states,                                                                    
     providing   small  business   a  mechanism   for  their                                                                    
     employees to  save for retirement. This  will allow for                                                                    
     competition  between  big   and  small  businesses  for                                                                    
     quality  talent.  SB  21   will  help  Alaskans  better                                                                    
     prepare for  their future,  improving their  quality of                                                                    
     life.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:50:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON expressed concern about seniors living in                                                                  
poverty, noting that since 2010 the rate has doubled from 5                                                                     
percent to 10 percent.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:51:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN asked  for an  example of  how an  employee would                                                               
experience  the Auto  IRA program,  from being  hired, completing                                                               
initial  paperwork,  to  how the  employee  would  encounter  and                                                               
interact with the program in practice.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:51:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. LABERGE responded  that it's her belief the  program would be                                                               
included in new-hire paperwork for  jobs without other retirement                                                               
options. Employees would be  automatically enrolled to contribute                                                               
a  portion of  each paycheck  but may  choose to  opt out  during                                                               
onboarding.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:52:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN asked  whether  the  program requires  additional                                                               
administration for employers or  requires employers to contribute                                                               
more money into their plan.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:52:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  LABERGE replied  that the  program doesn't  require employer                                                               
contributions.  Employees fund  it  through paycheck  deductions,                                                               
and in Colorado,  employers report it takes under an  hour to set                                                               
up and less than 15 minutes per month to maintain.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:53:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK  asked if  Alaska has  considered joining  any of                                                               
the partnership agreements listed in slide 6.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LOTTSFELDT   opined  that  joining  Colorado's   program  is                                                               
advantageous   because  combining   small  states   lowers  asset                                                               
management  feesColorado's    is  just  0.23  percent,   paid  by                                                               
participants  at  no cost  to  the  state.  She said  creating  a                                                               
separate program  in Alaska  would likely  result in  higher fees                                                               
due to the smaller participant base.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:54:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN held SB 21 in committee.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB21 ver A.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB21 Sponsor Statement.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB21 Sectional Analysis.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB21 Fiscal Note-DOR-PFD 03.28.25.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB21 Fiscal Note-DOR-TRS 03.28.25.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB21 Draft Proposed CS ver N.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB21 Explanation of Changes ver A to N.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB21 Presentation to SLAC-revised 03.31.25.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB21 Supporting Document-Research-AARP Alaska Study 2023.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB21 Public Testimony-Letter-ACLI 02.20.25.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB28 Supporting Documents-Bill Summary Table.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB28 Updated Summary Table-ver A 03.31.25 rev. 1.pdf SL&C 3/31/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 28