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03/26/2025 03:30 PM Senate EDUCATION

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                      SB  20-CPR CURRICULUM                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:31:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  announced the  consideration of  SENATE BILL  NO. 20                                                               
"An Act  relating to  cardiopulmonary resuscitation  education in                                                               
public  schools; relating  to  the duties  of  the Department  of                                                               
Education and  Early Development; and providing  for an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:32:12 PM                                                                                                                    
ELVI   GRAY-JACKSON,   Senator,    District   G,   Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, sponsor of  SB 20 stated  this bill                                                               
is the  same as  the bill  she introduced  last session  with the                                                               
exception  that it  has a  zero fiscal  note. She  mentioned that                                                               
Captain Jason  Dolph with the  Anchorage Fire  Department brought                                                               
the idea  for the bill to  her attention. She gave  the following                                                               
sponsor statement  for SB 20.  She explained that  sudden cardiac                                                               
arrest is the third leading cause  of death in the United States,                                                               
and  immediate bystander-administered  CPR can  more than  triple                                                               
survival rates. She concluded that  the bill would improve health                                                               
education,  prepare students  for  emergencies, introduce  career                                                               
skills, and promote a culture of readiness in Alaska schools.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:34:15 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:34:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN reconvened the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:34:34 PM                                                                                                                    
ZANDER KOTLAROV, Intern, Senator  Elvi Gray-Jackson, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,   Juneau,    Alaska,   provided    an   introductory                                                               
presentation  for  SB 20.  He  moved  to  slide  2 and  read  the                                                               
following:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     What is CPR? Importance of Early CPR                                                                                     
        • Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation is a first aid                                                                          
          technique to help people who suffer a cardiac                                                                         
          arrest (their heart stops beating). It involves                                                                       
          doing chest compressions.                                                                                             
        • Aids in the circulation of oxygenated blood                                                                           
          around the body to maintain the brain and vital                                                                       
          organs until advance medical help arrives.                                                                            
        • If performed immediately, CPR can double or                                                                           
          triple a victim's chances of survival.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:35:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KOTLAROV moved to slide 3, a map of the United States                                                                       
showing the states that require student CPR training. He                                                                        
discussed the following points:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     A little background                                                                                                      
        • Currently 40 states have a bill that requires                                                                         
          students to have CPR training before graduating                                                                       
          high school.                                                                                                          
        • Alabama passed a similar bill in 1984.                                                                                
        • Florida was the last state to adopt a similar                                                                         
          bill in 2021.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:35:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KOTLAROV moved to slide 4, Trained Students Save Lives, and                                                                 
discussed the following:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     TRAINED STUDENTS SAVE LIVES                                                                                              
        • Sudden Cardiac Arrest is a leading cause of death                                                                     
          in the USbut bystander CPR can double or triple                                                                       
          the survival rate.                                                                                                    
        • Training students in CPR requires minimal                                                                             
          investment  in time  and  cost.  According to  the                                                                    
          latest  science, trainees  can achieve  acceptable                                                                    
          levels of CPR skills  proficiency in 30 minutes or                                                                    
          less.                                                                                                                 
        • Pierson High School in Sag Harbor, NY began its                                                                       
          CPR program in 1994.  Amazingly, at least 16 lives                                                                    
          have  been saved  so  far  because these  students                                                                    
          used their CPR skills in the real world!                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:36:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KOTLAROV  moved to slide  5, What Does  SB 20 Do,  and shared                                                               
the following:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     What does SB 20 do?                                                                                                      
        • It will require school districts to implement an                                                                      
          existing   program  to   instruct  public   school                                                                    
          students     on     hands-only     cardiopulmonary                                                                    
          resuscitation (CPR).                                                                                                  
        • The program must:                                                                                                     
        • Be based on current national, evidence-based                                                                          
          emergency   cardiovascular  care   guidelines  for                                                                    
          cardiopulmonary resuscitation.                                                                                        
        • Incorporate hands-on practice in addition to                                                                          
          cognitive learning.                                                                                                   
        • Include instruction in the appropriate use of an                                                                      
          AED (automated external  defibrillator), which may                                                                    
          be taught using video  or other means if in-person                                                                    
          instruction is not available.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KOTLAROV said  industrial experts  are  available online  to                                                               
share testimony in support of SB 20 and answer questions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:36:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON stated that CPR  is one of the most valuable                                                               
life skills for young adults,  enabling them to make a meaningful                                                               
difference in  emergencies. She shared  that during  the interim,                                                               
she  and  her  staff  visited   the  Alaska  Heart  and  Vascular                                                               
Institute  at Providence  in Anchorage,  where they  observed the                                                               
positive impact  of CPR education  in schools. She  reported that                                                               
doctors   highlighted  students'   long-term  retention   of  the                                                               
material  and  stressed  the  need to  prepare  youth  for  life-                                                               
threatening situations.  She concluded  by urging support  for SB
20 to align  Alaska with other states in  providing students with                                                               
essential life-saving skills.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:38:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS expressed strong  support for the legislation and                                                               
praised its connection to the  Department of Education. He stated                                                               
he did  not wish  to suggest  changes to the  bill at  this time.                                                               
However,  he noted  that requiring  CPR  training for  university                                                               
students  could   also  be  a  valid   consideration  for  future                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:38:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN agreed  with the bill's intent and  shared a personal                                                               
story  of  witnessing  her sister-in-law  perform  a  life-saving                                                               
measure  on her  young nephew.  She emphasized  that many  people                                                               
across Alaska need access to  critical life-saving knowledge. She                                                               
noted  that emergencies  can happen  at any  time, especially  to                                                               
loved ones, highlighting the importance of preparedness.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:39:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN announced invited testimony on SB 20.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:39:17 PM                                                                                                                    
DOUG  SCHRAGE,  Chief,   Anchorage  Fire  Department,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, testified by invitation on SB  20. He said he is a former                                                               
president  and   lifetime  member  of  the   Alaska  Fire  Chiefs                                                               
Association. He  is testifying  on behalf  of the  Anchorage Fire                                                               
Department and  fire personnel across  the state. He  stated that                                                               
hands-only  CPR is  essential to  increasing survival  rates from                                                               
sudden  cardiac arrest  in  Alaska and  emphasized  that even  in                                                               
communities  with  strong  emergency medical  services,  survival                                                               
remains  around 50  percent  due to  delayed  response times.  He                                                               
explained that closing  the time gap between a  cardiac event and                                                               
emergency response depends on community  members being trained in                                                               
CPR,  especially  in  the  home  where  most  arrests  occur.  He                                                               
highlighted that  hands-only CPR is preferred  in many situations                                                               
due  to both  psychological and  scientific reasons,  noting that                                                               
uninterrupted   chest   compressions   are  most   effective   in                                                               
maintaining  circulation. He  added  that the  CPR curriculum  is                                                               
widely available  at no cost  and that many fire  departments are                                                               
willing  to  support  schools in  delivering  training.  He  also                                                               
endorsed the inclusion of  automated external defibrillator (AED)                                                               
training in  SB 20,  noting that  modern AEDs  are user-friendly,                                                               
often  requiring no  prior experience,  and  that training  still                                                               
adds  important   value.  He   concluded  by   expressing  strong                                                               
enthusiasm for the bill and urged its passage this session.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:44:40 PM                                                                                                                    
JASON   DOLPH,  Safety   Officer,   Anchorage  Fire   Department,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, testified  by invitation on SB 20.  He said he                                                               
is   a  second-generation   firefighter  and   26-year  emergency                                                               
services veteran.  He shared his extensive  background, including                                                               
serving as a  safety officer with the  Anchorage Fire Department,                                                               
being a  certified EMT  and CPR instructor,  and operating  a CPR                                                               
training business. He emphasized  the critical need for immediate                                                               
CPR  during sudden  cardiac  arrest, citing  data  showing an  81                                                               
percent increase  in survival  when CPR  is performed  within two                                                               
minutes.  He explained  that CPR  can double  or triple  survival                                                               
chances and  that early interventionespecially   by bystandersis                                                                
essential  to bridging  the response  time  gap before  emergency                                                               
crews arrive.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:47:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DOLPH  shared a  personal  account  of  his first  911  call                                                               
involving  a  cardiac  arrest,  describing  the  helplessness  of                                                               
untrained family members  present at the scene  and stressing how                                                               
training could  have made  a difference.  He explained  that only                                                               
about  40  percent  of  out-of-hospital  cardiac  arrest  victims                                                               
receive CPR  from bystanders, largely  because adults  often lack                                                               
training and time to attend  classes unless required for work. He                                                               
argued that  integrating CPR into  schools addresses this  gap by                                                               
reaching  students  early,  normalizing life-saving  skills,  and                                                               
instilling confidence through peer learning.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:49:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DOLPH cited  national stories  of youth  successfully saving                                                               
lives with CPR and research  supporting that children as young as                                                               
nine can  effectively learn the  technique. He said  the ultimate                                                               
goal  is to  create a  generation of  lifesaving citizens  with a                                                               
lifelong commitment  to cardiac awareness. He  compared the death                                                               
toll from sudden cardiac arrest  to the equivalent of seven daily                                                               
commercial plane crashes and asked  lawmakers to consider whether                                                               
such  numbers  would  prompt  urgent   action.  He  concluded  by                                                               
affirming  his support  for education,  but stressed  that in  an                                                               
emergency, CPR  is the only  knowledge powerful enough to  save a                                                               
life, and SB 20 provides that essential opportunity.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:53:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS stated that he  has known Mr. Dolph's father, the                                                               
fire chief  in Kodiak, for  approximately 50 years  and expressed                                                               
appreciation  for his  son's accomplishments.  He shared  that he                                                               
had known Mr.  Jason Dolph since childhood and  commended him for                                                               
becoming a  respected and responsible  adult. He thanked  him for                                                               
his contributions to public safety and CPR advocacy.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:54:30 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIAN WEBB,  representing self,  Anchorage, Alaska,  testified by                                                               
invitation  on SB  20. He  said he  is a  paramedic with  over 46                                                               
years of  experience in Alaska  EMS and EMS  education, testified                                                               
in strong  support of SB  20. He shared  that CPR in  schools has                                                               
been a long-standing  goal for the EMS community  since 2005, and                                                               
he expressed encouragement at the  simplicity and progress of the                                                               
current  bill. He  explained  that rural  Alaska  faces long  EMS                                                               
response  times and  a persistent  lack of  bystander CPR,  which                                                               
severely  impacts cardiac  arrest  survival. He  stated that  the                                                               
most  critical and  changeable  factor in  the  state's chain  of                                                               
survival  is  bystander  CPR and  emphasized  that  every  minute                                                               
without CPR reduces survival chances by 10 percent.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:55:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WEBER addressed  previous concerns about cost  and class time                                                               
by  noting  that SB  20  only  requires skill  exposurenot   full                                                               
certificationand  that  free or  low-cost programs  and equipment                                                               
are now available.  He added that effective CPR can  be taught in                                                               
30 minutes  or less,  making it a  manageable addition  to school                                                               
programs. He argued  that the bill not  only provides life-saving                                                               
skills but  also strengthens local  EMS connections and  may help                                                               
build  Alaska's future  EMS  workforce. He  shared  that his  own                                                               
career was inspired by a school  CPR class taught by Norm Miller,                                                               
Alaska's  first licensed  paramedic, and  noted that  communities                                                               
like Hollis, Hydaburg and Klawock  have already seen success with                                                               
school-based  CPR training  led  by local  EMS.  He concluded  by                                                               
citing  a recent  example in  Juneau  where a  student saved  his                                                               
father's life just two weeks after  a school CPR class, and urged                                                               
support for SB 20 as a straightforward, life-saving measure.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:58:53 PM                                                                                                                    
LINDA  IRELAND,  DO,  Cardiologist,  Alaska  Heart  and  Vascular                                                               
Institute, Anchorage,  Alaska, testified by invitation  on SB 20.                                                               
She  said  she serves  as  the  current  Governor of  the  Alaska                                                               
Chapter of  the American  Cardiac College  of Cardiology  and has                                                               
been a cardiologist for 20  years. She emphasized that 70 percent                                                               
of  cardiac arrests  occur in  the  home, not  in public  venues,                                                               
making it crucial  for both adults and children to  know CPR. She                                                               
stated that delayed bystander CPR  often results in poor outcomes                                                               
before  patients  reach the  emergency  room  and that  immediate                                                               
action  is essential,  as survival  decreases by  10 percent  for                                                               
every minute CPR is not  performed. She shared two examples: one,                                                               
a 50-year-old woman  who survived a sudden cardiac  arrest in the                                                               
stands during a  volleyball game thanks to immediate  CPR and AED                                                               
use  by a  nurse;  and another,  a local  student  whose CPR  was                                                               
delayed due to misidentification of  cardiac arrest symptoms as a                                                               
seizure. She  explained that CPR education  also teaches students                                                               
to recognize emergencies and call  911 effectively. She described                                                               
her ongoing  work teaching  hands-only CPR  to youth  through the                                                               
Boys and Girls Clubs in  Anchorage, the Matanuska-Susitna Valley,                                                               
and remote communities such as  Nome and Kotzebue, supported by a                                                               
grant from  the American College  of Cardiology. She  stated that                                                               
SB  20 would  ensure all  students  graduate with  the skills  to                                                               
respond in  emergencies and help  close the CPR knowledge  gap in                                                               
Alaska. She  concluded by  urging passage of  SB 20,  noting that                                                               
CPR education empowers students to  act as multipliers by sharing                                                               
their  skills  with  family  members  and  expanding  life-saving                                                               
awareness within communities.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:03:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL referenced  written  testimony expressing  concern                                                               
that  hands-only  CPR may  not  provide  adequate oxygenation  or                                                               
prevent  CO2  buildup  without  rescue   breaths.  He  asked  for                                                               
clarification on  the medical  evidence comparing  hands-only CPR                                                               
to traditional CPR with rescue breathing.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:40 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. IRELAND explained that including  rescue breaths in CPR often                                                               
discourages   people   from   participating  in   training.   She                                                               
acknowledged that CO2 levels can rise  without rescue breaths but                                                               
emphasized  that  chest  compressions   alone  have  been  proven                                                               
effective  within  the  critical   10-minute  window  before  EMS                                                               
arrives, particularly  for neurological outcomes. She  noted that                                                               
other EMS professionals could further address the issue.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:05:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS noted the bill's  reference to automated external                                                               
defibrillators (AEDs) and asked for  clarification on how AED use                                                               
compares  to hands-only  CPR, especially  given earlier  comments                                                               
favoring hands-only CPR.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. IRELAND  stated that AED  use is the  next step in  the life-                                                               
saving  process  after  calling   EMS  and  performing  CPR.  She                                                               
emphasized that AED  application significantly increases survival                                                               
chances. She noted  that modern AEDs are  user-friendly and often                                                               
come with  training devices  for practice.  She agreed  that AEDs                                                               
are  critically important  and should  be incorporated  alongside                                                               
CPR education.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:07:09 PM                                                                                                                    
KRISTIN  GEORGE, Executive  Director, American  Heart Association                                                               
Alaska, Anchorage, Alaska,  testified by invitation on  SB 20 and                                                               
said the  organization is proud  to support the  legislation. She                                                               
explained  that cardiac  arrest, unlike  a heart  attack, results                                                               
from  an electrical  malfunction that  stops the  heart's pumping                                                               
function. She  stated that nearly  90 percent  of out-of-hospital                                                               
cardiac arrest victims  do not survive, but early  CPR can double                                                               
or triple survival rates. She  emphasized that hands-only CPR can                                                               
be taught  in a  single class  period using  accessible resources                                                               
and that training  students equips them to  provide immediate aid                                                               
until EMS arrives. She urged swift  passage of SB 20, noting that                                                               
over 40  states already require  CPR training for  graduation and                                                               
that Alaska must not wait another year to join them.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:09:08 PM                                                                                                                    
KELLY  MANNING,  Deputy  Director,  Division  of  Innovation  and                                                               
Education   Excellence,  Department   of   Education  and   Early                                                               
Development, Juneau,  Alaska, offered  an overview of  the fiscal                                                               
note OMB 2796 for SB 20. She  stated that the bill carries a zero                                                               
fiscal  note.  She explained  that  the  Department will  develop                                                               
regulations  to guide  local curriculum  adoption as  required by                                                               
statute  and does  not anticipate  any additional  costs at  this                                                               
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:10:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN opened public testimony on SB 20.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:10:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MIKE  COONS, representing  self,  Wasilla,  Alaska, testified  in                                                               
opposition to  SB 20. He said  he is a retired  paramedic with 22                                                               
years of  experience. He expressed  strong opposition to  SB 20's                                                               
exclusive focus  on hands-only CPR.  He stated that while  he has                                                               
taught  CPR   and  advanced  cardiac  life   support  (ACLS)  and                                                               
performed life-saving  interventions, hands-only CPR  does little                                                               
to  remove  carbon dioxide  or  deliver  oxygenboth  critical  to                                                               
sustaining  life.  He acknowledged  that  hands-only  CPR may  be                                                               
effective in the  first few minutes after  collapse, but stressed                                                               
that without oxygen, brain damage  begins within four minutes. He                                                               
argued that  students should  be trained  in full  CPR, including                                                               
rescue  breathing,  and  urged the  legislature  to  let  schools                                                               
decide which method to teach to maximize survival chances.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:13:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL LEVY,  representing self, Eagle River,  Alaska, testified                                                               
in support of  SB 20. He said he has  been an emergency physician                                                               
in Alaska since 1989 and  medical director for the Anchorage Fire                                                               
Department and other EMS agencies.  He expressed frustration that                                                               
Alaska  remains one  of the  few states  without a  CPR education                                                               
requirement,  despite  years  of  advocacy. He  stated  that  519                                                               
Alaskans  experienced  cardiac  arrest  in  2023,  with  only  54                                                               
discharged with  good neurological function, and  emphasized that                                                               
early bystander  CPR significantly  increases survival  rates. He                                                               
described school-based  CPR training  as a  low-cost, high-impact                                                               
intervention  that  empowers students,  strengthens  communities,                                                               
and enhances public safety.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:15:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN closed public testimony on SB 20.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:15:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN said she received  full CPR certification during high                                                               
school along  with other  requirements. She  asked whether  SB 20                                                               
prohibits  any  school  from   offering  additional  training  to                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON said  she did  not know  the answer  to the                                                               
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:16:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN opined  that SB 20 does not say  schools cannot offer                                                               
more training because it is  just the minimum required. She asked                                                               
whether schools could offer more training.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:16:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON stated she was  unsure and therefore did not                                                               
care to  respond. She said she  would find the answer  and report                                                               
back to the committee members.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN stated  that having an answer  would address concerns                                                               
mentioned by Mr. Coons.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:16:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN held SB 20 in committee.                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 20 Version N 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 20
SB 20 Sponsor Statement Version N 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 20
SB 20 Sectional Analysis Version N 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 20
SB 20 Fiscal Note EED-SSA 03.21.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 20
SB 20 Presentation 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 20
SB 20 Testimony - American Heart Association 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 20
SB 20 Testimony - James White Teacher 03.20.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 20
SB 20 Testimony - Michael Coons 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 20
SB 18 Version A 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 118 Sponsor Statement 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 118
SB 118 Sectional Analysis Version A 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 118
SB 118 Fiscal Note UA-SS 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 118
SB 118 Presentation 03.26.2025.pdf SEDC 3/26/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 118