Legislature(2015 - 2016)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)
04/02/2015 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE
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| SB44 | |
| SB69 | |
| SB18 | |
| Adjourn |
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| += | SB 18 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| * | SB 69 | ||
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| + | SB 44 | TELECONFERENCED | |
SB 18-HEALTH CARE SHARE MINISTRY NOT INSURANCE
2:09:43 PM
CHAIR COSTELLO announced the consideration of SB 18. "An Act
exempting a health care sharing ministry from regulation as an
insurer." She noted this was the first hearing.
2:10:05 PM
JORDAN SHILLING, Staff, Senator John Coghill stated that SB 18
has two main purposes: 1) to define health care sharing
ministries and 2) to exempt them from insurance statutes because
they are charitable organizations. Health care sharing is a
payment arrangement for health care among persons of similar
beliefs. It is administered by a nonprofit corporation.
He noted the three largest sharing ministries are Christian
Health Care Ministries, which was established in 1990,
MediShare, established in 1993, and Samaritan Ministries,
established in 1994. All three are biblically based and have
membership requirements, such as living a Christian lifestyle
and abstaining from tobacco.
MR. SHILLING continued to explain that health care sharing
ministries are different from regular insurance. Insurance is
the transfer of risk from one entity to another in exchange for
a guaranteed payment. The sharing ministries are 501(c)(3)s and
no member is required by law to pay anyone's medical bills. They
don't assume or transfer risk, pool money or use actuaries, and
they don't purchase reinsurance policies. They are a group of
people who come together voluntarily and agree to share costs.
He stated that most states do not consider sharing ministries a
form of insurance, including the Alaska Division of Insurance.
There are about 3,400 Alaskans in sharing ministries. He noted
30 states have passed laws similar to SB 18. If the state were
to regulate these sharing ministries as insurance companies,
they would likely cease to exist.
SENATOR MEYER asked Ms. Wing-Heier her opinion of the bill and
what it attempts to do from an insurance perspective.
2:13:57 PM
LORI WING-HEIER, Director, Division of Insurance, Department of
Commerce, Community and Economic Development (DCCED), said the
decision to join a health care sharing ministry is a personal
commitment by an individual who trusts an organization to assume
the responsibility to pay their medical bills. About 3,500
people participate in health care sharing ministries in Alaska.
She explained that sharing ministries were specifically carved-
out of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) as long as they were in
existence in 1999. The bill codifies that this is ongoing in the
state and that previous administrations have not taken exception
to it.
CHAIR COSTELLO asked for an explanation of the DCCED fiscal
note.
2:16:30 PM
MS. WING-HEIER said the Division of Insurance submitted a zero
fiscal note because the bill maintains the status quo. It will
not impact the current organization or work load of the
division; health care ministries are not taxed currently and
won't be in the future.
SENATOR MEYER asked how a group qualifies for this exemption.
MS. WING-HEIER replied the organization is set up as a 501(c)(3)
nonprofit. She deferred further explanation to the sponsor.
2:18:11 PM
JOEL NOBLE, Alliance of Health Care Sharing Ministries and
Samaritan Ministries, explained that this is one of the accepted
exemptions within the Affordable Care Act for not having
individual insurance. Some of the qualifying standards include
being in existence before December 31, 1999 and providing an
annual audit upon request.
SENATOR MEYER asked the significance of the 1999 date.
MR. NOBLE surmised that it was to keep false actors from
starting for the sake of getting out from under the individual
mandate of the AFA. The date was set based on the starting dates
of the three national ministries. About 50 Mennonite churches
also qualify.
SENATOR MEYER continued to question the date since the
Affordable Care Act passed in 2010.
MR. NOBLE said the date came from the U.S. Senate Committee on
Finance and he wasn't sure what the thinking was.
CHAIR COSTELLO asked how health care sharing ministries work.
MR. NOBLE explained that they are member-to-member sharing
entities based on the Amish model of community help, but applied
to medical needs. He used his membership in Samaritan Ministries
as an example. Each month the ministry newsletter includes the
name and address of a member along with their medical need.
Depending on the need, other members are assigned the same name.
He and the other members each send a check to the injured party
that is equivalent to the monthly cost of membership. Those
checks total the amount of the bill and the injured party uses
them to pay their medical costs. He also related that when his
kids were born, he received a number of checks from ministry
members and he cashed them to pay the hospital and doctors.
2:23:04 PM
JENNIFER MEYHOFF, Alaska Association of Health Underwriters
(AHU), said this professional organization represents over 100
licensed health insurance brokers, agents, consultants, and
benefits specialists. They help individuals and employers
purchase, administer and utilize their individual and group
health insurance coverage. She said AHU is concerned with
consumer protection and integrity of the health care and
insurance markets in Alaska. As such, the lack of Division of
Insurance oversight of the exemption under SB 18 is very
troubling. AHU understands that this is not insurance, but it
looks and feels like insurance to the 3,500 consumers in Alaska.
She questioned what would happen in the event of a $1 million
claim or a prescription drug need in excess of $30 thousand per
month. The bill doesn't address this and other important
consumer protections, which is why the Alaska Association of
Health Underwriters opposes SB 18.
2:26:37 PM
SENATOR COSTELLO closed public testimony and held SB 18 in
committee for further consideration.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB 69 - Version A.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| SB 69 - Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| SB 69 - Fiscal Note.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| SB 69 - Hearing Request.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| SB 69 - Sectional Analysis.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| SB 69 - Support Letter Dr. Campbell.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| SB 69 - Support Letter Logan University.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| SB 69 - Support Letter Palmer College.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| SB 69 - Support Letter Univ. Western States.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| SB 18 - Version H.PDF |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 18 |
| SB 18 - Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 18 |
| SB 18 - Fiscal Note.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 18 |
| SB 18 - HCSM Summary.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 18 |
| SB 18 - Catholic Anchor Article.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 18 |
| SB 18 - ACA Exemption.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 18 |
| AG Opinion - Occupational Licensing 1991.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| ASBCE Newsletter Excerpt - 2003.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |
| 2015.04.08 Alaska State Medical Association Letter.pdf |
SL&C 4/2/2015 1:30:00 PM |
SB 69 |