Legislature(2025 - 2026)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

03/12/2025 03:30 PM Senate EDUCATION

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03:32:02 PM Start
03:33:04 PM SB18
04:12:37 PM SB6
04:17:27 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
04:46:22 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 18 COMMUNICATION DEVICES IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ HB 69 EDUCATION FUNDING: INCREASE BSA TELECONFERENCED
<Pending Referral>
<Bill Hearing Rescheduled to 03/17/25>
+= SB 6 ASIAN AMERICAN/PACIFIC ISLANDER PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 6(EDC) Out of Committee
Consideration of Governor’s Appointees:
Alaska Board of Education and Early Development
Kimberly Bergey
Kathryn McCollum
Consideration of Governor’s Appointees:
Professional Teaching Practices Commission
Heidi Barnes
Kimberly Bergey
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
         SB  18-COMMUNICATION DEVICES IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  announced the  consideration of  SENATE BILL  NO. 18                                                               
"An  Act  relating  to  wireless  telecommunications  devices  in                                                               
public schools; and providing for an effective date."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:33:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BILL WIELECHOWSKI, District  K, Alaska State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska, sponsor  of  SB 18,  introduced  Mr. Seater  his                                                               
mentee,  and briefly  shared how  he came  to sponsor  SB 18.  He                                                               
admitted to  initial hesitation but  was persuaded  after hearing                                                               
positive reports of improved student  discipline from a principal                                                               
who initiated a no cell phone policy.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:35:22 PM                                                                                                                    
DERSU  SEATER, Mentee,  Senator Bill  Wielechowski, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, introduced  SB 18 and explained that                                                               
SB  18 requires  the  Alaska Department  of  Education and  Early                                                               
Development  to create  a  model  policy prohibiting  non-school-                                                               
issued wireless  devices in schools. School  districts must adopt                                                               
either  this  model  or  a   comparable  policy,  and  must  have                                                               
emergency  exemptions.  He  described  cell  phone  misuse  as  a                                                               
growing  epidemic harming  students' mental  health and  academic                                                               
outcomes. Referring to studies and  personal experiences, he said                                                               
unrestricted phone use leads  to distraction, reduced engagement,                                                               
and diminished  learning, contrasting  environments at  East High                                                               
and Winterberry Charter School.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:39:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  SEATER  argued  that loose  cell  phone  policies  normalize                                                               
disengagement,    while     structured    restrictions    promote                                                               
accountability  and  improved  performance. He  addressed  school                                                               
safety concerns,  citing expert opinion that  phones create risks                                                               
during  emergencies.  He concluded  by  urging  the committee  to                                                               
support SB  18, emphasizing  its flexibility,  community control,                                                               
and broad teacher support.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:41:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS said there is  strong support in Alaska for local                                                               
control  of  school districts.  He  asked  whether SB  18  offers                                                               
options for  districts or if  the bill eliminates cell  phone use                                                               
in schools entirely.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:41:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SEATER replied that SB  18 allows some flexibility for school                                                               
districts.  He stated  that districts  must prohibit  the use  or                                                               
possession of cell phones during  class hours, lunch, and passing                                                               
periods. He clarified  that the method of enforcement  is left to                                                               
each district's discretion.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:42:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  noted that  SB 18, page  2, includes  exemptions for                                                               
wireless communication  during emergencies  but does  not mention                                                               
medical use.  She asked  for clarification on  why the  bill does                                                               
not provide an exemption for  individuals using a cellular device                                                               
for medical purposes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:42:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SEATER  stated that under the  current version of the  SB 18,                                                               
"emergency   purposes"  includes   medical  emergencies   or  the                                                               
prevention of such emergencies, such  as using a glucose monitor.                                                               
He added  that if  the committee wants  to clarify  this further,                                                               
the  sponsors  are  open  to  amending  the  bill  to  explicitly                                                               
reference medical emergencies or medical needs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:43:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN asked how SB  18 might affect students in specialized                                                               
programs who  need to use  personal devices during  school hours.                                                               
She expressed  concern that the  policy could hinder  students in                                                               
academic programs  who rely on  unrestricted internet  access for                                                               
learning.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:44:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SEATER replied that since SB  18 leaves many details to local                                                               
school districts,  students could  bring concerns to  their local                                                               
school boards.  He stated that  districts might choose  to create                                                               
exemptions or adjust policies to accommodate student needs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:44:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  stated that another bill  is moving through                                                               
the  legislature that  allows more  flexibility for  local school                                                               
districts, while  SB 18 is  more prescriptive. He  explained that                                                               
SB  18  would  strictly  prohibit the  use  of  non-school-issued                                                               
wireless telecommunication devices, whereas  the other bill would                                                               
require  school  districts  or the  Department  of  Education  to                                                               
regulate the  use of the device.  He said the sponsors  would not                                                               
object if  the committee decided  to revise  SB 18 to  allow more                                                               
local control.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN  asked whether SB 18  would also prohibit the  use of                                                               
other types of personal  wireless telecommunication devices, such                                                               
as gaming devices like the Nintendo Switch.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:46:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SEATER  replied that, as  a student,  he has not  seen anyone                                                               
bring a  Nintendo Switch or  similar gaming device to  school. He                                                               
stated that the current  definition of wireless telecommunication                                                               
devices likely  does not include  those types of  gaming devices.                                                               
He added  that the definition  could be amended if  the committee                                                               
wishes to address that.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN  stated that, according  to some students,  the issue                                                               
is not cell  phones but unengaging classes and  large class sizes                                                               
that reduce  education quality. She said  students have expressed                                                               
a preference for distractions due  to these conditions. She noted                                                               
that students  have called  for an increase  in the  Base Student                                                               
Allocation (BSA)  to improve class sizes  and instruction quality                                                               
instead of  banning cell phones.  She asked for thoughts  on that                                                               
perspective.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:47:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SEATER said that addressing  student disengagement requires a                                                               
two-sided approach. He expressed  support for increasing the Base                                                               
Student  Allocation but  noted,  from  personal experience,  that                                                               
even in  small classes, such as  his AP Spanish class  with 10 to                                                               
15  students,  about  half  the  students  are  on  their  phones                                                               
throughout the  period. He stated  that the teacher  is exhausted                                                               
from  managing phone  use alone.  He suggested  that this  policy                                                               
would give teachers a clear  mandate from the state, reducing the                                                               
burden on them and avoiding confrontational enforcement.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:48:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL joined the meeting.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:48:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  said  he   supports  increasing  the  Base                                                               
Student Allocation  and reducing class sizes.  However, he stated                                                               
that  cell phones  remain  a widespread  issue,  even in  smaller                                                               
classes, as noted by Mr.  Seater. He emphasized that removing the                                                               
burden  of enforcement  from teachers  and  establishing a  clear                                                               
state  policy would  be beneficial,  adding  that teachers  could                                                               
"blame" the legislature for the rule.  He said SB 18 aims to keep                                                               
phones  out  of  classrooms   during  instructional  time,  while                                                               
allowing flexibility  for districts  to permit use  during lunch,                                                               
breaks, and educational need.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:49:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS expressed support for  SB 18 and acknowledged the                                                               
classroom  disruption  caused by  cell  phone  use. He  asked  to                                                               
further explore the medical exemption  issue. He gave the example                                                               
of  a glucose  monitor, which  requires immediate  attention, and                                                               
questioned   whether  there   are   other   medical  devices   or                                                               
conditions, such  as heart monitors,  that should  be considered.                                                               
He  clarified  that this  would  not  mean allowing  unrestricted                                                               
phone use but  asked if there are additional medical  needs SB 18                                                               
should address.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:50:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  noted  that  this  was  the  first  Senate                                                               
hearing  on  SB 18  and  acknowledged  that the  House  conducted                                                               
several hearings  and did  good work on  the issue.  He explained                                                               
that  the House  version  includes a  regulatory approach  rather                                                               
than  a strict  prohibition  and includes  model policy  language                                                               
requiring  exceptions for  medical and  translation purposes.  He                                                               
emphasized that translation is  particularly important in diverse                                                               
schools, such as East Anchorage  High, where students speak up to                                                               
95 different languages. He said  the House policy also allows use                                                               
in  emergencies  or  when  a   teacher  or  administrator  grants                                                               
permission  for  educational  purposes. He  supported  clarifying                                                               
that  medical   use,  including  non-emergency   situations  like                                                               
glucose  monitoring, should  be  allowed and  stated he  supports                                                               
giving districts more local control.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:51:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN said the committee  would now discuss the fiscal note                                                               
for SB 18.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:52:16 PM                                                                                                                    
DEBORAH  RIDDLE,  Division  Operations  Manager,  Innovation  and                                                               
Education Excellence Division, Department  of Education and Early                                                               
Development,  Juneau, Alaska,  provided  a review  of the  fiscal                                                               
note for  SB 18,  OMB component  2796, dated  March 7,  2025. She                                                               
said SB 18 has a zero  fiscal note, and that the department could                                                               
absorb cost  associated with development of  regulations, at this                                                               
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN announced invited testimony for SB 18.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:53:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MATTHEW  WITTHOEFT, Principle,  Begich Middle  School, Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, testified by invitation on  SB 18. He expressed agreement                                                               
with Senator  Wielechowski's comments and acknowledged  the value                                                               
of cell  phones for safety  and communication,  particularly when                                                               
students are away from parents,  such as during travel. He noted,                                                               
however, that cell phones are  a major impediment to learning and                                                               
shared  personal and  professional  experiences illustrating  the                                                               
challenges of  managing device  use among  youth. He  stated that                                                               
teachers at his school have  repeatedly thanked him for relieving                                                               
them of that burden and  credited early efforts and district-wide                                                               
policy language for building community and staff support.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WITTHOEFT  addressed   concerns  about  blocked  educational                                                               
websites,  explaining  that   his  one-to-one  Chromebook  school                                                               
allows  IT filter  adjustments when  needed.  He emphasized  that                                                               
personal  device use  with unfiltered  internet  access and  VPNs                                                               
presents far greater risks than  the limited benefit of accessing                                                               
niche educational  content. He  concluded by  referencing broader                                                               
issues  such as  teen mental  health and  school safety,  stating                                                               
that restricting phone  use has been one of the  easiest and most                                                               
effective decisions he has made as a first-year principal.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:56:24 PM                                                                                                                    
DORA WILSON,  representing self, Anchorage, Alaska,  testified by                                                               
invitation  on SB  18 stating  that  she has  lived, worked,  and                                                               
raised her  children in Alaska.  She has served as  a therapeutic                                                               
foster parent  for 21 years, caring  for over 50 youth.  She also                                                               
serves on the Anchorage School Board  and shared that on March 4,                                                               
the  board  unanimously  passed  a  detailed  policy  on  student                                                               
possession   and  use   of   electronic  communication   devices,                                                               
including  cell phones.  She  credited  Anchorage principals  and                                                               
educators  for  initiating  the policy,  which  aims  to  improve                                                               
academic outcomes and student mental health.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILSON  expressed support  for district-level  flexibility in                                                               
implementing such  policies, recognizing  that needs  vary across                                                               
Alaska.  Drawing  from her  experience  as  a parent  and  foster                                                               
parent,  she  emphasized  that electronic  devices,  particularly                                                               
social  media, can  be  harmful  to youth  mental  health if  not                                                               
properly monitored.  She described  the development of  a school-                                                               
day phone use policy as a  positive step to support educators and                                                               
students   and  thanked   Senator  Wielechowski   for  his   work                                                               
supporting education and youth in Alaska.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:59:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   BJORKMAN   asked    Mr.   Witthoeft   whether,   before                                                               
implementing  a ban  on cell  phone use,  the school  had a  more                                                               
flexible   policy  that   allowed  teachers   to  enforce   rules                                                               
individually, and if so, how effective that approach had been.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WITTHOEFT replied that the  school previously used a flexible                                                               
system where classrooms displayed signsred   for no phone use and                                                               
green for  allowed use. However,  after the pandemic,  the number                                                               
of  students with  phones increased  significantly, and  teachers                                                               
were frequently  forced to address  phone distractions.  He noted                                                               
that  larger  class  sizes  compounded  the  issue.  Inconsistent                                                               
enforcement  among  teachers  led  to  student  complaints  about                                                               
varying  rules.  As a  result,  the  administration determined  a                                                               
schoolwide   policy    was   necessary   for    consistency   and                                                               
effectiveness.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:02:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN opened public testimony on SB 18.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:02:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SALLY DONALDSON,  School Counselor, Juneau, Alaska,  testified in                                                               
support  of SB  18 and  said  she has  worked in  schools for  20                                                               
years.  She shared  an  experience  from 12  years  ago when  she                                                               
witnessed a  teacher returning a  box of cell phones  to students                                                               
following  a statewide  test, noting  one  student claimed  three                                                               
phones. She  used this to  illustrate that cell phones  have long                                                               
been a  significant issue in  schools. She  supported restricting                                                               
cell phones  in Alaska schools  for several reasons:  cell phones                                                               
cause  distraction even  when not  in use;  managing phones  adds                                                               
unnecessary  responsibility to  teachers;  and students  interact                                                               
more meaningfully with  each other when phones are  absent. MS. D                                                               
concluded by  urging the  committee to  consider moving  the bill                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:05:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MOREAN  HALL, representing  self,  Juneau,  Alaska, testified  in                                                               
support of  SB 18.  She said she  is a retired school  nurse from                                                               
Juneau and  current assembly member. She  highlighted bullying as                                                               
a major concern,  noting that students now  arrange fights during                                                               
school  hours,  record  them,  and  post  them  online,  creating                                                               
additional trauma  and challenges for school  staff and families.                                                               
She  stated that  students with  medical needs  or Individualized                                                               
Education   Programs    (IEPs)   could   be    exempted   through                                                               
accommodations,  including  Section  504  plans. On  the  use  of                                                               
translation  apps, she  advised  consulting English  as a  Second                                                               
Language teachers,  noting that  tools like Google  Translate may                                                               
hinder language  learning. She emphasized the  growing importance                                                               
of focus  in education,  quoting author  Cal Newport  and warning                                                               
that  many students  reach  college without  having  read a  full                                                               
book. She  urged support  for SB  18, calling  it a  low-cost but                                                               
high-impact step,  while recommending some flexibility  for local                                                               
control.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:07:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked whether Ms.  Hall was speaking for herself or                                                               
an elected official.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALL replied she was representing herself.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:08:11 PM                                                                                                                    
ALLISON CURRY,  representing self,  Juneau, Alaska,  testified in                                                               
support of  SB 18.  She said  she is a  middle school  teacher at                                                               
Ryan Middle  School in  Fairbanks and  shared her  perspective on                                                               
the impact  of cell  phones in  schools, particularly  with sixth                                                               
graders.  She emphasized  that her  students,  born around  2012,                                                               
have grown up  in a world saturated  with constant notifications,                                                               
filters, and  cameras. She noted  however, that all  students may                                                               
not own a  cell phone. She argued that public  schools serve as a                                                               
great equalizer  and should be  a refuge from  digital pressurea                                                                
place where  students are free  from surveillance,  social media,                                                               
and distractions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURRY  highlighted the amount  of instructional time  lost to                                                               
managing  devices  and  stressed  the importance  of  creating  a                                                               
school environment  where students feel safe  from being recorded                                                               
or exposed  without consent. She recounted  an incident involving                                                               
a nearby  high school lockdown,  where misinformation  spread via                                                               
student cell phones  caused chaos, leading to a  flood of parents                                                               
surrounding  the   school  and  blocking  access   for  emergency                                                               
services. She  urged support  for SB  18, stressing  the powerful                                                               
impact  such  a policy  could  have  in  creating a  safer,  more                                                               
focused learning environment.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:12:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN closed public testimony on SB 18.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:12:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN held SB 18 in committee.                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 18 version N 01.22.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 18 Sponsor Statement 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 18 Sectional Analysis 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 18 Fiscal Note EED-SSA 03.07.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 18 Supporting Document - Surgeon General's Advisory 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 18 Research - Canadian Journal 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 18 Research - What Experts are Saying 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 18 Supporting Document - Alaska Beacon Article 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 18 Supporting Document - Begich Middle School Cell Phone Policy 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 18 Supporting Document - TIME Article 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
SB 18 Testimony - Begich Principal 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 18
Kimberly Bergey - Resume - Board of Education 03.06.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
Kathryn McCollum - Resume - Board of Education 03.06.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
Heidi Barnes - Resume - PTPC 03.06.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
Kimberly Bergey - Resume - PTPC 03.06.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 6 Version N 03.04.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 6
SB 6 Summary of Changes Version A to Version N 03.11.2025.PDF SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 6
SB 6 Testimony - Rosita Worl 03.12.2025.pdf SEDC 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 6