Legislature(2011 - 2012)BUTROVICH 205
02/09/2011 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES
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| SB17 | |
| Presentation: Citizen Review Panel | |
| Adjourn |
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| *+ | SB 17 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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SB 17-SYNTHETIC CANNABINOIDS
1:32:40 PM
CHAIR DAVIS announced the first order of business would be SB
17.
SENATOR MEYER, sponsor of SB 17, explained this bill would
classify synthetic cannabinoids as a controlled substance. He
explained that synthetic cannabinoids have recently appeared in
the form of a new drug, called "Spice" or "K2". These substances
are relatively cheap, easily attainable, and used by many
people, especially teenagers. Spice is popular because it has
effects similar to marijuana but can't be detected in a drug
test, and is legally sold over the counter as incense; it is
also more potent than marijuana.
The Municipality of Anchorage (MOA) has passed an ordinance
prohibiting the possession of the substance in the city of
Anchorage. The Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) and the US military
have also taken action against it, and the city of Juneau is
considering an ordinance. By enacting SB 17, he emphasized,
hopefully the legislature can prevent this substance from
causing more harm and more accidents. Senator Meyer noted that
15 states have already passed legislation against the drug, and
21 states have introduced legislation that will make it unlawful
to sell, purchase, possess, manufacture, transport or deliver
synthetic cannabinoids.
1:36:07 PM
CHRISTINE MARASIGAN, staff to Senator Meyer said she would
answer any questions.
1:37:48 PM
ROBERT THOMPSON, Sergeant, Fairbanks Police Department,
testified in favor of SB 17. On January 12, he said, there was a
traffic accident in Fairbanks where the driver admitted to using
Spice, and acknowledged that he was impaired. They discovered
that they could not charge him under the DUI statutes, but only
for reckless driving. It is obviously a public safety risk that
people are consuming Spice and driving. Sergeant Thompson noted
the driver was described as being passed out, and was
disoriented when he came to. He emphasized that although this
substance is legal, it creates a significant threat to public
safety.
1:39:59 PM
DENNIS WHEELER, Municipal Attorney, Anchorage (MOA), said the
municipality supports SB 17 and its companion bill, HB 7. The
MOA believes there should be felony penalties, and the substance
should be criminalized statewide. He mentioned that the MOA has
benefitted from a grant from the Highway Traffic Safety Office
which allowed Ms. Messig to make presentations around the state
regarding this drug, its effects, and why it is so dangerous.
1:42:19 PM
JENNIFER MESSIG, Traffic Safety Resource Prosecutor,
Municipality of Anchorage, said that APD had a traffic fatality
where Spice was involved, as well as numerous DUI cases, but
they are not able to prosecute these as DUI cases. There are
also health concerns with these chemical compounds. There has
been at least one death directly attributed to Spice; in Montana
a 16 year old died after using Spice, and blood toxicology
confirmed no other drugs were present in his system.
A number of very dangerous symptoms can occur when someone uses
this drug, and it doesn't depend on the amount used. Some of the
symptoms are dangerously high blood pressure, loss of
consciousness, acute tachycardia, unpleasant hallucinations,
delusions of impending death, and delusions of super-human
strength.
SENATOR MEYER noted that many people use Spice because it is
legal, so they believe it must not be harmful. He asked about
the difference between marijuana and Spice.
1:46:17 PM
MS. MESSIG responded that Spice can look like marijuana, because
the chemical compounds are often sprayed onto leafy green
substances, and it has the same method of delivery. The
researcher who developed Spice was actually researching the
possible medicinal effects of marijuana. He discovered that the
compounds in Spice bind differently in the brain than marijuana,
up to 800 times tighter, so the effect is much stronger than
marijuana. What makes it so dangerous is that it targets people
who might not otherwise experiment with drugs. They reason it is
not illegal, so it must not be harmful.
1:49:21 PM
SENATOR MEYER said he asked his daughter if she had heard of
Spice in her high school, and she said it was very popular
because it doesn't show up on a drug test. He then asked how law
enforcement agencies test for Spice now that it is illegal in
Anchorage.
MS. MESSIG said that Spice is not detectable in an ordinary drug
screen. A few labs have developed the ability to test for some
of those compounds in the urine, and those tests cost anywhere
from $35 to $55, but not all 7 compounds can be tested for. One
lab can do a blood test but it is very expensive.
SENATOR MEYER asked if they have to send samples out of state to
be tested.
MS. MESSIG confirmed they do have to send them out, and it is a
very difficult process.
1:52:08 PM
SHELLY HUGHES, Government Affairs Director, Alaska Primary Care
Association, testified in support of SB 17. She cited health
risks and the potential for substance abuse, and said that the
effects to the central nervous systems and cardio vascular
systems are evident, and it is a concern to clinicians across
the state. Spice-related emergency room visits and the need for
medical care by students are all red flags.
1:54:06 PM
CHAIR DAVIS closed public testimony on SB 17.
SENATOR MEYER asked a question for the state crime lab.
1:54:45 PM
ORIN DYM, Manager, Alaska State Scientific Crime Laboratory,
Commissioner's Office, Department of Public Safety, stated he
was available to answer questions.
1:55:24 PM
SENATOR MEYER asked why there is a fiscal note.
MR. DYM explained that there are two types of analyses that
should be clarified. The Alaska State Crime Lab has no
toxicology section; what they can test for is the possession of
such substances, in order to provide positive identity for court
cases.
1:56:42 PM
SENATOR EGAN asked if the state crime lab has seen a cocaine-
like bath salts being sold in stores.
MR. DYM said the first sample was recently submitted; there are
three common chemicals associated with those substances, which
he forwarded to the department of law.
SENATOR EGAN said, "So it has reached Alaska."
MR. DYM confirmed that was true.
1:58:11 PM
SENATOR EGAN asked if the new substance could be included in
this bill.
CHAIR DAVIS said it could be considered.
SENATOR MEYER said his staff has looked at that issue.
CHRISTINE MARASIGAN, staff to Senator Meyer, said that issue has
been brought up before. She pointed out that several of the
compounds in Spice have already been on a DEA watch list, which
makes Spice a known quantity, with data backing up the use,
manufacture, and transport. She further stated that at this
point there is no conclusive research on the bath salts.
2:00:21 PM
CHAIR DAVIS noted a letter of support from the Mayor of
Anchorage, and state troopers on the line to answer questions;
she asked if anyone from DSHS was present.
2:01:17 PM
CHRISTY LAWTON, Acting Director, Office of Children's Services,
said this was the first she had heard of SB 17, and she did not
know the department's position.
SENATOR EGAN moved to report SB 17 from committee with
individual recommendations and attached fiscal note(s). There
being no objection, SB 17 moved from the Senate Health and
Social Services Standing Committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |
SB 17 |
| Sectional Analysis.pdf |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |
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| SB 17 Ltr of support AK Mental Health Board.pdf |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |
SB 17 |
| Ltr of Support Municipality of Anchorage.pdf |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |
SB 17 |
| Ltr of Support Fairbanks Police.pdf |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |
SB 17 |
| ADN Article 12 21 2010.pdf |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |
SB 17 |
| ADN Article 12 08 2010.pdf |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |
SB 17 |
| ADN Article 10 20 2010.pdf |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |
SB 17 |
| Fiscal Note.pdf |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |
SB 17 |
| Alaska's Citizen Review Panel.pptx |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |
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| Alaska's Citizen Review Panel.pptx |
SHSS 2/9/2011 1:30:00 PM |