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02/10/2025 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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                     SB  11-FLOOD INSURANCE                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:11:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration of  SENATE BILL NO.  11. "An Act relating  to flood                                                               
insurance;  relating  to  property  insurance;  establishing  the                                                               
Alaska Flood Authority  and the Alaska flood  insurance fund; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:12:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BERT  STEDMAN,  District A,  Alaska  State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska,  sponsor of SB 11.  He stated that he  is looking                                                               
to create  a system to  replace federal flood insurance.  He said                                                               
this issue came up years ago  when he noticed high premiums being                                                               
paid in his district with very  few claims. He said over time his                                                               
office saw  that the  federal program  not only  provides limited                                                               
coverage  of  $250  thousand  for homes  and  $500  thousand  for                                                               
businesses but  also imposes strict development  rules on coastal                                                               
properties. He stated that despite  repeated records requests, he                                                               
couldn't  get data  on premiums  paid  by Alaskans,  so he  added                                                               
language to the  operating budget to require a  state report. The                                                               
report showed most  premiums went out with few  claims in return,                                                               
and  strict   compliance  rules  made  results   worse  with  the                                                               
insurance company requiring a person  to elevate or rebuild their                                                               
home if  repairs exceed 50 percent  of the home's value.  He said                                                               
these rules are a fairness  issue. Most people's biggest asset is                                                               
their  home and  being forced  to tear  their home  down or  jack                                                               
their home  up because it's  older or  slightly too low  in value                                                               
isn't  fair.  He  stated  that the  system  traps  homeowners  by                                                               
requiring flood insurance  to qualify for loans  in certain zones                                                               
and is enforced through banks and the secondary mortgage market.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:17:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEDMAN   said  the  federal  flood   insurance  program                                                               
restricts coastal  development by  openly discouraging  builds on                                                               
beaches, using pilings, or adding  rock fill. That doesn't fit in                                                               
places like Juneau or Ketchikan,  where most valuable property is                                                               
on the shoreline. He stated  that his office started looking into                                                               
the Federal  Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)  program when his                                                               
office saw Alaskans  paying high premiums with  almost no claims.                                                               
He said the program is  underfunded and uses the Alaskan people's                                                               
premiums  to  subsidize disasters  in  places  like Florida,  the                                                               
Carolinas,  and  the  Gulf of  Mexico(America).  He  stated  that                                                               
Alaskans  get   limited  coverage  and  face   strict  rebuilding                                                               
requirements  if  damaged  often  forcing people  to  elevate  or                                                               
demolish homes.  He said because  flood insurance is  required in                                                               
designated zones  to get  a mortgage,  residents are  forced into                                                               
the  program  through the  banking  system.  He stated  that  his                                                               
office reached  out to  the Division  of Insurance,  which helped                                                               
show  how unfair  these premiums  are and  that private  insurers                                                               
wouldn't be  allowed to charge  these rates in Alaska.  He stated                                                               
that  his  office  began  drafting  a  bill  to  create  a  state                                                               
authority, not  as a charity,  but as a  self-funded alternative.                                                               
Residents would  pay regulated premiums,  rising with  losses and                                                               
falling when risk  is low. He said the authority  might need seed                                                               
funding, but that could be paid back.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:23:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN stated that from  2008 to 2021, Kenai paid nearly                                                               
$3.7 million in  premiums but had only $103,000  in claims. Sitka                                                               
paid $1.5  million and had just  one $20,000 claim. He  said that                                                               
the one  claim was filed  only because filing with  the insurance                                                               
was  easier  than dealing  with  the  city. Ketchikan  paid  $1.5                                                               
million and  had $100,000 in  claims. Fairbanks paid  $11 million                                                               
and  got   back  $1.7   million.  Meanwhile,   Federal  Emergency                                                               
Management Agency (FEMA) recently  added 1,100 more properties in                                                               
Ketchikan  to the  flood  zone. He  said SB  11  would create  an                                                               
Alaska  based  flood  insurance  authority.  SB  11  would  raise                                                               
coverage limits from $250 thousand  to $1 million for residential                                                               
and from  $500 thousand to  $2 million for  commercial properties                                                               
which is  more in line with  coastal property values. He  said SB
11 also avoids  many of FEMA's development  restrictions and uses                                                               
a broader  definition of  flood. He stated  that as  FEMA expands                                                               
coverage and  takes in more  land, it's  clear the state  needs a                                                               
better solution for Alaskans.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:27:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN  stated that the  Mendenhall River in  Juneau and                                                               
Ketchikan Creek are known flood  areas, with some losses over the                                                               
decades.  Mendenhall  Valley is  becoming  more  at risk  due  to                                                               
glacial changes, and FEMA may  soon impose strict requirements on                                                               
homeowners  there. He  said the  goal is  to create  an authority                                                               
that raises  coverage, lowers  premiums, and  removes unnecessary                                                               
restrictions  allowing  local   planning  authorities  to  manage                                                               
zoning. No one's  asking for a free ride, just  a fair system. He                                                               
stated that  if any planning  authority starts  approving permits                                                               
below the tideline, they likely won't last long.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:29:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK  asked if there  were any analyses  on earthquake                                                               
insurance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:29:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEDMAN answered  that SB  11 is  focused on  floods but                                                               
issues  like  earthquakes,  landslides, and  mudslides  could  be                                                               
addressed later.  He said  SB 11  could be  a phased  approach by                                                               
getting the core structure in place, then expand it.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:30:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked if a home  is in a designated flood zone the                                                               
federal  government   requires  the   homeowner  to   have  flood                                                               
insurance but not necessarily the federal governments insurance.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:31:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN answered that's his understanding.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR  said with the numbers  clearly showing homeowners                                                               
are overpaying and opens doors for  an entrepreneur to come in to                                                               
offer  better rates  and make  a profit.  He asked  why the  free                                                               
market isn't  offering this product  and why shouldn't  the state                                                               
allow the free market to displace the federal government.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN  answered  the  restrictions  from  the  federal                                                               
government  would  still  be in  place,  unless  the  legislature                                                               
passes SB  11 to  remove those restrictions.  He stated  that the                                                               
Division of Insurance is better  suited to answer questions about                                                               
private flood  insurers but added that  Alaska's small population                                                               
makes it difficult to attract  insurance carriers. He stated that                                                               
if  the state  shuts  down coastal  development, the  communities                                                               
risk job loss and the states development.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DUNBAR  stated  that  the  federal  government  requires                                                               
[coastal homeowners] carry some kind  of insurance that state law                                                               
cant  override unless  its specifically allowed. He  asked how SB
11  would remove  federal development  restrictions and  wouldn't                                                               
those  restrictions  still  apply  even  with  state  or  private                                                               
insurance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN  answered the whole goal  of SB 11 is  to get rid                                                               
of the restrictions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DUNBAR asked  if the  restrictions  and development  are                                                               
built  into  the  policies  or   do  they  exist  in  some  other                                                               
regulation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN  answered  that   the  restrictions  are  coming                                                               
through FEMA,  and the goal  is to get  rid of the  whole federal                                                               
environment and  have the  state offer policies  to get  out from                                                               
the high premiums.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:34:32 PM                                                                                                                    
ROSE FOLEY, Staff, Senator Bert Stedman, Alaska State                                                                           
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, read the sectional analysis on SB
11 as follows:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                       Sectional Analysis                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
                    Senate Bill 11 version A                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: Requires insurance rates for flood                                                                            
                insurance be based primarily on actual                                                                          
                historical flood and damage data.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2: Provides a definition of "flood".                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      Section 3: Adds a new Article 2 to AS 21.60 creating                                                                    
                the Alaska Flood Authority.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.100  Creates  the  Alaska  Flood                                                                  
                Authority (authority)  as a nonprofit entity                                                                    
                and   requires  all  insurers   licensed  to                                                                    
                provide  property  insurance  in  Alaska  to                                                                    
                maintain membership  in the authority and to                                                                    
                provide  all  information  required  by  the                                                                    
                board or director.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.110  Defines  membership on  the                                                                  
                board  of  the  authority  and  requires  an                                                                    
                annual  report by September  1 of  each year                                                                    
                detailing    the   effectiveness    of   the                                                                    
                operations  of the  authority; the  benefits                                                                    
                of  the  insurance  program; and  identifies                                                                    
                penalties or sanctions  imposed on the state                                                                    
                under the National Flood Insurance Act.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.120  Establishes  the powers  of                                                                  
                the authority. Sec.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                21.60.130  Outlines the  required facets  of                                                                  
                the plan of  operation for the authority, to                                                                    
                be   submitted  to   the  director   of  the                                                                    
                division of insurance.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.140 Exempts  the authority  from                                                                  
                AS 44.62 (Administrative Procedures Act).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 2:36:11 PM                                                                                                                   
 MS. FOLEY continued with the sectional analysis for SB 11:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.150 Exempts  the authority  from                                                                  
                any real and personal property taxes.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.160  Requires  the authority  to                                                                  
                make  at  least  one  plan  available  to  a                                                                    
                person  who  is  eligible for  coverage  and                                                                    
                prohibits refusal  by the authority to offer                                                                    
                coverage to a qualified person.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.170 Provides  that the  policies                                                                  
                offered  by the authority shall  be at least                                                                    
                equivalent to those  offered by the National                                                                    
                Flood Insurance  Program. Specifies coverage                                                                    
                limits of authority plans.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.180   Requires  premiums  to  be                                                                  
                fair,  and to be  based primarily  on actual                                                                    
                historical flood damage data.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
                Sec.  21.60.190 Outlines  the duties  of the                                                                  
                authority.  These   include  performing  the                                                                    
                administrative and  claims payment functions                                                                    
                of  this act, and providing  the director of                                                                    
                insurance  a semiannual  report of  the plan                                                                    
                of operation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.200   Details  funding  for  the                                                                  
                authority  and the  insurance program.  Each                                                                    
                member   will   pay   dues  in   an   amount                                                                    
                determined  by the  board and  share in  any                                                                    
                losses    of    the    insurance    program.                                                                    
                Additionally, the  board will make an annual                                                                    
                determination  whether  a  fiscal  year  end                                                                    
                assessment  is   necessary  to  operate  the                                                                    
                program and issue  the assessment if needed.                                                                    
                This  section also allows for  a legislative                                                                    
                appropriation   of  up  to  $5   million  to                                                                    
                satisfy  a claim  if the  member assessments                                                                    
                are insufficient.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
                Sec.   21.60.210  Defines   eligibility  for                                                                  
                state flood insurance  as any person with an                                                                    
                insurable  interest  in insurable  property.                                                                    
                This  section  allows  the board,  with  the                                                                    
                approval of the  director of the division of                                                                    
                insurance, to  create additional eligibility                                                                    
                requirements.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:38:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. FOLEY continued with the sectional analysis of SB 11:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.220  Outlines  how  an  eligible                                                                  
                person enrolls in a state insurance plan.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.230  Provides  the authority  30                                                                  
                days  after   receiving  an  application  to                                                                    
                notify the applicant  if the application has                                                                    
                been accepted or rejected.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.240  Stipulates  that  insurance                                                                  
                coverage begins  immediately upon receipt of                                                                    
                the first premium.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
                Sec.  21.60.250  Requires  the authority  to                                                                  
                notify  people who  live in  flood zones  of                                                                    
                the   state  insurance  plan.   Requires  an                                                                    
                insurance  provider   that  denies  a  flood                                                                    
                insurance   application    to   notify   the                                                                    
                applicant  of the  state insurance  plan and                                                                    
                application process.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
                Sec.  21.60.260  Instructs  the director  of                                                                  
                the  division   of  insurance  to  formulate                                                                    
                general   policy   and   adopt   regulations                                                                    
                necessary  to  administer  the  state  flood                                                                    
                insurance plan.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  21.60.270 Clarifies  the state  is not                                                                  
                liable   for  acts   or  omissions   of  the                                                                    
                authority.  Sec.   21.60.280  Exempts  board                                                                    
                members  from civil  and criminal  liability                                                                    
                for  an  act  or  omission if  that  act  or                                                                    
                omission  was done in good  faith and within                                                                    
                the scope of duties.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
                Sec.  21.60.290  Creates  the  Alaska  Flood                                                                  
                Insurance  Fund as  a separate  fund in  the                                                                    
                state  treasury and establishes  a framework                                                                    
                for use of the Fund.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
2:39:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. FOLEY continued with the sectional analysis of SB 11:                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
                Sec. 21.60.300 Provides definitions for the                                                                   
                Alaska Flood Authority.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4: Stipulates that assessments and civil                                                                         
                penalties collected by the Alaska Flood                                                                         
                Authority are defined as program receipts                                                                       
                that are accounted for separately, and that                                                                     
                appropriations of these funds are not made                                                                      
                from the unrestricted general fund.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5: Clarifies the Section 1 applies only to                                                                       
                insurance policies or contracts entered                                                                         
                into or renewed on or after the effective                                                                       
                date of this legislation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6: Allows the director of the division of                                                                        
                insurance to adopt regulations to carry out                                                                     
                this act if the Alaska Flood Authority                                                                          
                fails to submit a plan of operation by                                                                          
                January 1, 2027.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7: Establishes an effective date of July 1,                                                                      
                2026.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:41:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN held SB 11 in committee.                                                                                         

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