Legislature(2025 - 2026)BUTROVICH 205

05/12/2025 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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+= SB 167 CRIM. CONV. OVERTURNED: RECEIVE PAST PFD TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 167(STA) Out of Committee
+= HB 35 PRISONERS: ELECTRONIC DEVICE ACCESS/USE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+= SB 9 SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 9(JUD) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
        SB   9-SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:02:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  announced the  consideration of  SENATE BILL  NO. 9                                                               
"An Act relating  to the surrender of infants;  and providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN said  this is  the  third hearing  of SB  9 in  the                                                               
Senate Judiciary  Committee. [The committee amended  CSSB 9(HSS),                                                               
adopting  Amendment 3  on April  11, 2025.]  The intention  is to                                                               
consider the adoption of committee substitute (CS), version T.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:02:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN solicited a motion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  moved to adopt  the committee substitute  (CS) for                                                               
SB 9, work order 34-LS0085\T, as the working document.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:02:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN objected for purposes  of discussion. He invited his                                                               
staff to present the summary of changes.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:03:06 PM                                                                                                                    
BREANNA  KAKARUK,  Staff,  Senator   Matt  Claman,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau,   Alaska,  presented  the   Explanation  of                                                               
Changes for SB 9 from version G to version T.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                     Explanation of Changes                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senate Bill 9: Version G to Version T                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 15-17:                                                                                                        
          Removes the authority of the Commissioner of the                                                                      
     Department  of  Family   [and  Community  Services]  to                                                                    
     designate  additional  appropriate   locations  for  an                                                                    
     infant  safety   device  beyond  the   approved  listed                                                                    
     designated facilities as requested by the department.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, lines 4-8:                                                                                                         
          Deletes assessment considerations for determining                                                                     
     whether to approve a proposed  infant safety device and                                                                    
     adds  the requirement  that  the  infant safety  device                                                                    
     must be  installed, operated, and  maintained according                                                                    
     to the  manufacturer's guidelines and  regulations that                                                                    
     are adopted by the Department.                                                                                             
          Adds that the infant safety devices must be                                                                           
     inspected  upon   installation  and  annually   by  the                                                                    
     manufacturer   or  the   manufacture's  designee,   and                                                                    
     inspected  monthly  by  the  designated  facility  that                                                                    
     installed  the device.  These inspections  are required                                                                    
     to  be  logged  by  the designated  facility  and  must                                                                    
     include the  testing of  the device's  alarms, cameras,                                                                    
     climate control systems, and locks.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:04:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN referred  to page 4, lines 4-7 of  the proposed CS,                                                               
version  T, asking  whether  there  is an  estimate  of the  cost                                                               
associated with installation  and annual inspection requirements.                                                               
She asked  who would be  responsible for covering those  costs or                                                               
whether  the responsibility  would fall  to the  entity utilizing                                                               
the boxes.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MYERS, speaking  as sponsor,  replied that  he consulted                                                               
with Department  of Health  (DOH) and  local fire  departments to                                                               
develop Section [4.]  He stated that entities  could roll monthly                                                               
inspections into  existing equipment inspection  routines without                                                               
additional cost. He  explained that the devices  would be treated                                                               
similarly to  equipment such as  fire extinguishers  or automated                                                               
external  defibrillators (AEDs),  which already  require periodic                                                               
inspection.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MYERS  stated that the  manufacturer or  designated party                                                               
would  perform the  required annual  inspections,  as with  other                                                               
medical  equipment, such  as  hospital beds.  He  added that  DOH                                                               
would verify that the manufacturer  or designated party completed                                                               
the  inspections  during  its  facility  reviews  but  would  not                                                               
conduct the equipment inspections itself.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:06:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN stated  that while  the  inspection comparison  to                                                               
fire extinguishers  and automated external  defibrillators (AEDs)                                                               
is  helpful, the  inspection requirements  for a  baby box  would                                                               
likely be  more involved. The  inspection process for a  baby box                                                               
would,  hopefully,  require  more  than  checking  a  gauge.  She                                                               
explained  that,   based  on  her  experience,   certain  medical                                                               
equipment,   such  as   mammography  machines,   require  service                                                               
inspections that the facility using the equipment pays for.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  TOBIN  stated  that  she  would  like  more  information                                                               
regarding the anticipated costs  associated with installation and                                                               
maintenance, including who would ultimately bear those costs.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:07:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS stated  that a representative from  Safe Haven Baby                                                               
Boxes, a  primary manufacturer  of the  devices, is  available to                                                               
provide  a  few more  specifics.  He  noted that  installing  the                                                               
devices  is voluntary,  and anticipated  private donations  would                                                               
fund  many  of them.  The  facility,  the manufacturer,  and  the                                                               
fundraising efforts  would determine the cost.  He explained that                                                               
there  could  be some  limited  cost  to municipalities  if  fire                                                               
departments  choose  to  participate, but  participation  is  not                                                               
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MYERS noted  that some  hospitals are  municipally owned                                                               
while  others   are  private  or  nonprofit   entities,  and  any                                                               
associated costs would be incorporated into their operations.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:08:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CLAMAN  expressed  his  perspective  on  the  language  in                                                               
paragraph (6)  on page 4  of the proposed  CS. He noted  that the                                                               
requirement  for inspections  upon installation  and annually  by                                                               
the  manufacturer or  the manufacturer's  designee suggests  that                                                               
the manufacturer  would bear  the cost  of those  inspections. He                                                               
stated that  the language  does not  indicate that  another party                                                               
would assume the fiscal responsibility.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN said  Mr. Kelsey  from  Safe Haven  Baby Boxes  was                                                               
available to  provide testimony and answer  questions. He invited                                                               
Mr. Kelsey to  introduce himself, provide a  brief statement, and                                                               
respond to questions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:09:11 PM                                                                                                                    
JOE  KELSEY,  Co-Founder  and Senior  Project  Coordinator,  Safe                                                               
Haven  Baby Boxes,  Woodburn, Indiana,  stated  that the  program                                                               
includes  an initial  fee covering  the manufacture  of the  baby                                                               
box,  as well  as training  and testing  for installation  at the                                                               
designated location.  The location  is typically  responsible for                                                               
contracting installation  and connecting  the system to  an alarm                                                               
that communicates with the local  dispatch center, such as a fire                                                               
station.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KELSEY stated  that the  program includes  an annual  fee of                                                               
$500 in  the Lower  48 states, which  covers ongoing  support for                                                               
the baby box program and  an annual physical inspection conducted                                                               
by the organization.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. KELSEY  stated that  the program  requires weekly  testing by                                                               
the facility,  including simulating  placement of  a baby  in the                                                               
box to ensure the mechanics  function properly and that the alarm                                                               
system notifies dispatch within the appropriate timeframe.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:10:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked about the  annual fee structure,  noting that                                                               
costs in Alaska  are typically higher due to  travel expenses. He                                                               
asked how the annual fee might  change for Alaska and whether the                                                               
organization had an estimate.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KELSEY replied  that the  costs  would likely  be higher  in                                                               
Alaska.  The  basis  for   pricing  is  travel-related  expenses,                                                               
including airfare,  lodging, transportation, and wages.  He noted                                                               
that the  organization does not seek  to profit from the  fee. He                                                               
explained that  annual visits include  inspections of the  box to                                                               
ensure  it  does not  require  maintenance.  The inspection  also                                                               
includes reviewing  logs to ensure  the location is  doing weekly                                                               
testing,  answering questions,  and providing  supplies. He  said                                                               
that  his organization  wants  to ensure  each  location has  the                                                               
tools it needs for the safe and successful surrender of a baby.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:12:42 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN asked whether, in  other states where baby boxes are                                                               
in  use, inspections  are conducted  by  locally based  certified                                                               
individuals or  by staff traveling  from the  organization's home                                                               
office.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KELSEY responded that it is somebody from the home office.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN   asked  whether  the  organization   ever  uses  a                                                               
contractor  in another  location or  if all  the inspections  are                                                               
conducted by staff from the organization's home office.                                                                         
MR. KELSEY replied  that inspections are conducted  by staff from                                                               
the organization's  home office, though on  rare occasions, local                                                               
contacts are  used for troubleshooting. The  organization aims to                                                               
respond to issues within 72 hours, either remotely or in person.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked whether the organization has boxes in Hawaii.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. KELSEY  replied that  the organization does  not have  any in                                                               
Hawaii. He  stated that the  farthest locations from its  base in                                                               
Indiana are Arizona and Idaho.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:14:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  asked which regulatory  body, if any,  oversees or                                                               
approves  Safe  Haven  Baby  Boxes.  She  referenced  comparative                                                               
equipment,   such  as   fire  extinguishers   regulated  by   the                                                               
Occupational Safety and Health  Administration (OSHA) and medical                                                               
beds regulated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.   KELSEY  responded   that   the   organization  received   a                                                               
determination from  the FDA that  the baby  box is not  a medical                                                               
device  and is  therefore not  regulated as  one. He  stated that                                                               
although the box  contains medical components, such  as a medical                                                               
bassinet  with UL-listed  parts, no  government agency  regulates                                                               
it. He  said a safety  inspection was  conducted on the  box, and                                                               
that provided recommendations.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:15:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN invited the bill sponsor to make closing comments.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MYERS expressed appreciation  to the committee for taking                                                               
the time to  hear SB 9. He also thanked  the Department of Health                                                               
and the  Department of  Family and  Community Services  for their                                                               
assistance  in developing  the  legislation,  stating that  their                                                               
input helped  balance safety  considerations while  maintaining a                                                               
zero fiscal note.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:16:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  stated that, based  on Mr. Kelsey's  testimony, the                                                               
cost of  inspections conducted by  the manufacturer  would likely                                                               
exceed $500  in Alaska  and raised the  question about  who would                                                               
bear those costs.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MYERS  responded  that  such costs  would  be  known  in                                                               
advance  to any  facility  choosing to  install  the devices  and                                                               
could  be planned  accordingly.  He  acknowledged concerns  about                                                               
future  costs and  reiterated that  it is  important to  make the                                                               
baby box option available.                                                                                                      
2:17:05 PM                                                                                                                    
[The objection to adopting CSSB 9, version T, as the working                                                                    
document was implicitly dropped and it was adopted.]                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN solicited the will of the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:17:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL moved to report CSSB 9, work order 34-LS0085\T,                                                                   
from committee with individual recommendations and any                                                                          
accompanying fiscal note(s).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:17:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN found no objection and CSSB 9(JUD) was reported                                                                    
from the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CSHB 35 version O 5.12.25.pdf SJUD 5/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 35
CSSB 9 version T.pdf SJUD 5/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 9
HB 35 Explanation of Changes version T to version O 5.12.25.pdf SJUD 5/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 35
SB 9 Explanation of Changes version G to version T 5.12.25.pdf SJUD 5/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 Letter of Support- City of Fairbanks 4.23.2025.pdf SJUD 5/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 9
Corrected HB 35 Explanation of Changes version T to version O 5.12.25.pdf SJUD 5/12/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 35