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03/13/2025 03:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled:
+= SB 9 SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 9(HSS) Out of Committee
+= SB 83 TELEHEALTH REIMBURSEMENT RATES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 83(HSS) Out of Committee
*+ SCR 2 SUPPORT CRISIS CARE & MEDICAID REFORM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
        SB   9-SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR  reconvened the meeting announced  the consideration                                                               
of  SENATE BILL  NO.  9  "An Act  relating  to  the surrender  of                                                               
infants; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:47:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR solicited a motion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:47:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL moved to adopt the committee substitute (CS) for                                                                
SB 9, work order 34-LS0085\G, as the working document.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:47:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR objected for purposes of discussion                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:47:39 PM                                                                                                                    
ARIELLE WIGGIN, Staff, Senator Forrest Dunbar, Alaska State                                                                     
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, offered a summary of changes for SB
9 version I to version G and read the following:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                       SUMMARY OF CHANGES                                                                                     
        CSSB 9: SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE                                                                      
                     Version I to Version G                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     Page 2 Lines 10-12                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Inserts "health facility as defined in AS 47.07.900                                                                       
          that is owned or managed by a tribal health                                                                           
     organization as defined in AS 17.30.200(d),"                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3 Lines 17-24 Amends AS 47.10.013                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Deletes "as determined by the department; and" at line                                                                     
     17 and replaces the phrase with:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
       "(3) Clearly marked with appropriate signage that                                                                        
     includes                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           A) the phone number for a service that provides                                                                      
           support for parents in crisis;                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           B) a list of alternatives to using the infant                                                                        
           safety device;                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           C)  a statement  that  placing an  infant in  the                                                                    
           device  constitutes abandonment  and may  lead to                                                                    
           involuntary  termination of  the parent's  rights                                                                    
           to  the  child  and  release  of  the  child  for                                                                    
           adoption or other permanent placement;"                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:49:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. WIGGINS read the rationale prepared by Senator Tobin                                                                        
regarding the changes made to SB 9, version G:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     For the first change on  page three, lines 17-24, to provide                                                               
     this surrendering,  parent with information  on alternatives                                                               
     to surrender.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     For  example,  Washington  State  has a  safety  of  newborn                                                               
     children  law  that  allows  parents  to  anonymously  leave                                                               
     newborns  with  qualified  individuals  at  hospitals,  fire                                                               
     stations, or federally designated  rural health clinics with                                                               
     72  hours  after  birth  without  fear  of  prosecution  for                                                               
     abandonment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     As  in other  states with  safe surrender  laws, we  want to                                                               
     ensure  that  surrendering  parent  is  aware  of  a  crisis                                                               
     hotline that  they can  call the clear  signage on  the safe                                                               
     surrender box.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     As there  are likely  in crisis, if  they are  abandoning an                                                               
     infant,  we   also  want   to  make   it  explicit   to  the                                                               
     surrendering  parent  through  clear  signage  on  the  safe                                                               
     surrender box  that putting  this surrendering  their infant                                                               
     may lead to the termination of their parental rights.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     As there are  in crisis, they may be influenced  by drugs or                                                               
     alcohol, or may be a mental health event.                                                                                  
     This simply  would provide  a clear  statement to  the legal                                                               
     issues of surrender.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:50:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. WIGGINS returned to summary of changes and read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4 Lines 4-8 Amends AS 47.10.013                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
    Inserts   "(5)   approved   by   the   department;   in                                                                     
        determining whether to approve a proposed infant                                                                        
     safety device, the department shall consider                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     A) Whether the device is an appropriate size;                                                                              
     B) The safety of the device; and                                                                                           
     C) Ways to minimize unauthorized use of the device."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:50:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  WIGGINS continued  with  the rationale  for  the summary  of                                                               
changes; version G:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
"To ensure that the safe surrender  box is sized for its intended                                                               
use  for  newborn infants  and  would  not  be large  enough  for                                                               
misuse. I.e. older infants are toddlers.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
They  worked  with  Senator  Myers   office  on  drafts  of  this                                                               
amendment and arrived on a compromise with the proposal.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
With  the proposed  language in  a  work draft,  which gives  the                                                               
Department  of  Health,  discretion and  determining  appropriate                                                               
size for the safe surrender box."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:50:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. WIGGINS returned to the summary of changes; version G:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, Line 13 Amends AS 47.10.013                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Inserts  "(j)  If  the department  determines  that  an                                                                    
     infant abandoned under (C)(1)(B)  of this section is an                                                                    
     Indian child, the  department shall immediately contact                                                                    
     the Indian child's tribe."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:51:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MS  WIGGINS  continued  with  the rational  for  the  summary  of                                                               
changes; version G:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
"This is a  reiteration of the Indian child  welfare, welfare act                                                               
requirements  specific to  the new  statute on  the surrender  of                                                               
newborns via safe surrender boxes."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:51:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  asked  if  there were  any  questions  from  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:51:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DUNBAR   removed  his  objection.  He   found  no  further                                                               
objection and CSSB 9 was adopted as the working document.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:52:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  ROBERT  MYERS,  District Q,  Alaska  State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska,  speaking as sponsor  of SB 9 explained  that the                                                               
bill aims  to save  lives by  adding another  option to  the 2008                                                               
safe-surrender  law,   especially  in  light  of   recent  infant                                                               
abandonment  cases.  He  supported  the intent  of  the  proposed                                                               
amendments  but needs  further discussion  with  the Division  of                                                               
Family  and Community  Services regarding  practical impacts.  He                                                               
said  with  another committee  of  referral  ahead, he  plans  to                                                               
continue working with  the department. He stated  he is satisfied                                                               
with SB 9 in its current form.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:53:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES suggested  that  the next  committee of  referral                                                               
review language  on page  three to  determine whether  placing an                                                               
infant   in  the   device   could   constitute  abandonment   and                                                               
potentially lead  to involuntary termination of  parental rights.                                                               
She cautioned  that such wording  might make a  frightened parent                                                               
believe they are breaking the  law and recommended clarifying the                                                               
language to  ensure parents understand  that using the  device is                                                               
legal.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:54:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS  acknowledged that "abandonment" is  a loaded term.                                                               
He  explained  that  the  wording  was  intended  to  mirror  the                                                               
existing safe-surrender law, where  a person receiving the infant                                                               
informs the  parent about  the implications,  including potential                                                               
termination of parental rights. Since  the device involves no in-                                                               
person  interaction,   the  amendment  sought  to   provide  that                                                               
information through signage.  He agreed the concern  is valid and                                                               
would review the language as the bill moves forward.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:55:47 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:56:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR reconvened the meeting.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:56:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR  questioned whether  public testimony was  left open                                                               
from the last hearing on SB  9; finding no further testifiers, he                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:56:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR solicited the will of the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:56:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL moved  to report CSSB 9,  work order 34-LS0085\G,                                                               
from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note(s).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:57:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DUNBAR found  no objection  and CSSB  9(HSS) was  reported                                                               
from the Senate Health and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 9 Version G 3.11.25.pdf SHSS 3/13/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 83 Version T 3.11.25.pdf SHSS 3/13/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 83
CSSB 83 Version T Summary of Changes 3.12.25.pdf SHSS 3/13/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 83
CSSB 9 Version G Summary of Changes 3.12.25.pdf SHSS 3/13/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
CSSB 83 Version O 3.12.25.pdf SHSS 3/13/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 83
CSSB 83 Version O Summary of Changes 3.12.25.pdf SHSS 3/13/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 83