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02/25/2025 03:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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        SB   9-SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:32:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR  announced the  consideration of  SENATE BILL  NO. 9                                                               
"An Act relating  to the surrender of infants;  and providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:32:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  ROBERT  MYERS,  District Q,  Alaska  State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska,  sponsor  of  SB  9  paraphrased  the  following                                                               
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                    SB 9 - Sponsor Statement                                                                                  
            SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE                                                                            
       "An Act relating to the surrender of infants; and                                                                        
               providing for an effective date."                                                                                
     In  2008  Alaska  enacted its  safe  surrender  law  to                                                                    
     ensure that surrendered  infants receive immediate care                                                                    
     for  their  safety  and  provide  protections  for  the                                                                    
     relinquishing parent,  thereby reduce  potential infant                                                                    
     death due  to illegal  abandonment. While  nine infants                                                                    
     have been surrendered since  the safe surrender statute                                                                    
     was  enacted,  the state  of  Alaska  has recently  had                                                                    
     several   instances   of    infants   being   illegally                                                                    
     abandoned,  sometimes  leading  to  death.  Traditional                                                                    
     safe  surrender  laws  require  a  parent  to  directly                                                                    
     relinquish an infant to  another individual. Yet shame,                                                                    
     fear,  and  potential  recognition may  pose  potential                                                                    
     barriers for  a parent  in crisis  to utilize  the safe                                                                    
     surrender law as it still  requires the surrender to be                                                                    
     made in person.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Infant  safety devices  offer  a  possible solution  to                                                                    
     protect both relinquishing  parents and infants. Infant                                                                    
     safety devices  allow a parent  to surrender  an infant                                                                    
     anonymously  through a  climate-controlled device  at a                                                                    
     designated   facility.  Currently,   twenty-two  states                                                                    
     authorize  infant  safety  devices.  Senate  Bill  Nine                                                                    
     would authorize the use of  infant safety devices as an                                                                    
     additional  method of  infant relinquishment  under the                                                                    
     safe surrender  laws. These  devices would  safely hold                                                                    
     an  infant with  an automatic  lock and  constant video                                                                    
     surveillance  while  immediately  alerting  appropriate                                                                    
     personnel  of  the  surrender.  Infant  safety  devices                                                                    
     would be  placed in conspicuous areas  with appropriate                                                                    
     signage as  determined by the Department  of Family and                                                                    
     Community Services (DFCS). An  infant safety device may                                                                    
     be   located   at   hospital,   emergency   department,                                                                    
     freestanding   birth  center,   office  of   a  private                                                                    
     physician,  rural   health  clinic,   municipal  police                                                                    
     department,  state trooper  post,  fire department,  or                                                                    
     other facility designated by the DFCS commissioner.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The ability to relinquish an  infant to a safe location                                                                    
     rather than  an individual allows  additional anonymity                                                                    
     for the relinquishing parent  while still ensuring that                                                                    
     surrendered  infants  receive immediate  medical  care.                                                                    
     Thus,  SB  9  preserve the  protection  of  surrendered                                                                    
     infants  while also  addressing the  potential barriers                                                                    
     of  shame,   fear,  and  potential  recognition   of  a                                                                    
     relinquishing parent during a time of crisis.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   MYER   stated   facility  consent   is   required   for                                                               
installation  and  payment for  the  devices  is through  private                                                               
funding. He  stated his office  did not work with  any particular                                                               
group in  the drafting of  SB 9. It mirrors  Maryland legislation                                                               
that was unanimously passed last year.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:35:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked for the  names of  a few other  states that                                                               
have passed similar legislation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:35:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS  replied that  the  list  of states  with  similar                                                               
legislation is in the bill packet.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DUNBAR  stated Alabama,  Idaho, and  Indiana are  among the                                                               
states listed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MYERS  offered to  provide the  direct research  from the                                                               
National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL).                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DUNBAR expressed approval of the shortened summary.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN stated he would like to see the NCSL analysis.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MYERS said he would provide it.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:36:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   GIESSEL  expressed   appreciation  for   the  immediate                                                               
emergency medical services (EMS) response  when a child is placed                                                               
in the  device. She asked whether  there is a provision  in place                                                               
for situations where  the child is already deceased  and there is                                                               
evidence of child abuse.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:37:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS stated  that current  law  permits safe  surrender                                                               
only when  there are no indications  of abuse, and SB  9 does not                                                               
change that standard.  He clarified that the  basic provisions of                                                               
the safe surrender  law remain intact. SB 9  simply introduces an                                                               
additional method for  safe surrender. He added that  if there is                                                               
evidence  of  abuse, it  could  still  lead to  criminal  charges                                                               
against the parent.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:37:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL  asked whether video  surveillance could  be used                                                               
as a tool to identify the perpetrator.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:37:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS  stated that the  video surveillance is  limited to                                                               
the  inside  of   the  box  and  does  not   capture  the  person                                                               
approaching it. He  explained that the intent is  to preserve the                                                               
anonymity of  the surrendering parent,  which is a key  factor in                                                               
encouraging safe surrenders.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:38:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN asked  how authorities can confirm  that the person                                                               
surrendering the infant is actually the parent.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MYERS stated  that under the current  safe surrender law,                                                               
no proof is  required to verify that the  person surrendering the                                                               
child is the parent, and SB  9 does not change that provision. He                                                               
suggested  the  Department  of   Family  and  Community  Services                                                               
address the question.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:39:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN explained  that she asked the  question because she                                                               
was raised  by her  grandparents and  understands that  there are                                                               
situations where an infant may  be surrendered by a family member                                                               
who is  not the  parent but  also cannot  provide care.  She said                                                               
gaining clarity  on how the  process works would help  her better                                                               
understand the implications.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:39:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR  called on Ms.  Erikson to address the  question and                                                               
for Senator Tobin to repeat the question.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:40:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  asked whether,  under the  current bill  draft and                                                               
related  statutes,  there  is  any   process  through  which  the                                                               
department  or  another  system   confirms  that  the  individual                                                               
surrendering the child is the parent or legal guardian.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:40:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CARLA   ERICKSON,  Chief   Assistant,  Child   Protection,  Civil                                                               
Division,  Department of  Law, Anchorage,  Alaska, answered  that                                                               
confirmation of  who surrendered  the child  is only  possible if                                                               
the  individual's  identity  is   known.  In  cases  of  complete                                                               
anonymity and  without external  surveillance, the  Department of                                                               
Family and  Community Services  would treat  the situation  as an                                                               
abandoned   child  and   proceed   with   efforts  to   establish                                                               
permanency. She stated her understanding  of the process is there                                                               
would likely  be attempts  to identify  and contact  other family                                                               
members and that would be the extent of the current process.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:41:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  stated that she  did not  want to focus  on worst-                                                               
case scenarios but explained that  she often considers situations                                                               
involving  separated  parents or  caregivers  who  can no  longer                                                               
provide  care.  She  expressed  concern  that  if  the  surrender                                                               
process  remains  fully anonymous  with  no  way to  confirm  the                                                               
identity of  the person surrendering  the child, there is  a real                                                               
risk that  a loving family  willing to  care for the  child might                                                               
never be  contacted. She  said this  is a  personal consideration                                                               
she takes into account when reviewing the legislation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:42:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  stated that  the 2008  law granted  immunity from                                                               
prosecution  to  a parent  who  surrendered  a child  to  another                                                               
person. Regarding the nine cases  where infants were surrendered,                                                               
she asked  whether information about  the parent was  provided to                                                               
the  Department  of Family  and  Community  Services (DFCS).  She                                                               
expressed  concern   that  under   the  current   proposal,  that                                                               
information may no longer be available.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:42:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS deferred the question.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:43:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ERICKSON  stated that in  her experience with  the Department                                                               
of Law, the  agency has been aware of the  identity of the parent                                                               
in safe surrender cases. She clarified  that she was not aware of                                                               
any case involving  a fully anonymous or  "clean, safe surrender"                                                               
where  the  parent  left  the   child  and  walked  away  without                                                               
providing any information. She  emphasized her understanding that                                                               
the department had identifying information.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:43:50 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  sought to  address  Senator  Tobin's concern  by                                                               
stating  that the  intent  behind safe  surrender  options is  to                                                               
account for  factors like  fear and  embarrassment that  a parent                                                               
may  experience. She  questioned  whether requiring  a parent  to                                                               
fill out and sign a form  affirming their identity and placing it                                                               
with the baby in the device  would discourage use. She noted that                                                               
although the act remains private,  adding a signed document might                                                               
still feel intrusive.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:44:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS  stated that  SB 9 aims  to provide  an opportunity                                                               
for  parents  to  voluntarily  include  identifying  and  medical                                                               
information  when  surrendering  a  child,  which  is  the  ideal                                                               
outcome.  He  emphasized,  however,  that  the  priority  remains                                                               
preserving  the   child's  life.   He  acknowledged   that  while                                                               
additional information is valuable, the first and most critical                                                                 
step is ensuring the child survives. He concluded that this                                                                     
focus guided the direction of the SB 9.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:45:36 PM                                                                                                                    
THERESA WOLSTAD, Staff, Senator Robert Myers, Alaska State                                                                      
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, provided the sectional analysis for                                                                
SB 9:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                SB 9 ver. I  Sectional Analysis                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
            SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE                                                                            
       "An Act relating to the surrender of infants; and                                                                      
               providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: AS 47.10.013 (c)  Page 1, Lines 3-15 Page 2,                                                                
     Lines 1-18.                                                                                                              
     This section  authorizes an infant  safety device  as a                                                                    
     location  a  parent  may safely  surrender  an  infant.                                                                    
     Establishes  appropriate  locations for  infant  safety                                                                    
     devices and  authorizes the Commissioner of  Family and                                                                    
     Community  Services  to   designate  other  appropriate                                                                    
     facilities and locations.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2: AS 47.10.013(d) Page  2, Line 19-31, Page 3,                                                                
     Lines 1-2.                                                                                                               
     Amends  AS   47.10.013(d)  with   conforming  statutory                                                                    
     references as made in section one.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3: AS 47.10.013(e) Page 3, Line 3-6.                                                                           
     Amends AS  47.10.013(e) with conforming  language which                                                                    
     adds "designated" to authorized facilities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4:  AS 47.10.013  Page 3,  Lines 7-31,  Page 4,                                                                
     Lines 1.  This section  requires a  designated facility                                                                  
     to  notify  the nearest  office  of  the Department  of                                                                    
     Family and Community Services that  the infant has been                                                                    
     surrendered.  The Department  may  provide training  to                                                                    
     employees   of   a    designated   facility   regarding                                                                    
     implementation   and   compliance  with   Alaska   safe                                                                    
     surrender laws.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     This  section  further   establishes  requirements  for                                                                    
     infant safety devices including:                                                                                           
        1. Located within a conspicuous location that is                                                                        
           visible to designated facility employees.                                                                            
        2. Climate-controlled.                                                                                                  
        3. Clearly marked with appropriate signage.                                                                             
       4. Equipped with an automatic 911 emergency system                                                                       
           dispatch request for emergency medical response                                                                      
           to the device location, a 24-hour video                                                                              
           surveillance system, and automatic security lock                                                                     
           after deposit.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5: Page 4, Line 2.                                                                                             
       This section establishes an effective date for the                                                                       
     bill of July 1 st, 2026.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:47:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR announced invited testimony on SB 9.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:48:03 PM                                                                                                                    
DOUGLAS  SCHRAGE, Chief,  Anchorage  Fire Department,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  testified  by  invitation  on  SB  9  expressing  strong                                                               
support for the  bill. He noted that Alaska's  current safe haven                                                               
law,  like  those  in  all  50  states,  provides  immunity  from                                                               
prosecution  for  a   parent  who  surrenders  a   newborn  to  a                                                               
designated professional.  He explained  that while  the Anchorage                                                               
Fire Department has  received infants under this  law, there have                                                               
also been tragic  cases of unsafe abandonment.  He identified the                                                               
face-to-face handoff requirement as  a significant barrier due to                                                               
stigma and  fear, and stated that  safe haven baby boxes  offer a                                                               
safer, anonymous alternative.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCHRAGE clarified  that  there is  no  legal requirement  to                                                               
collect  identifying information  during a  live handoff,  though                                                               
officials  use a  voluntary questionnaire  to request  medical or                                                               
background  information.  He  stated   that  the  same  voluntary                                                               
approach  would apply  to baby  boxes,  with signage  encouraging                                                               
completion of the  form but no obligation to do  so. He explained                                                               
that baby boxes  are typically installed in fire  stations due to                                                               
their 24-hour staffing, and are funded by donations.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCHRAGE  emphasized that  SB  9  is  necessary to  amend  AS                                                               
47.10.013, which currently  requires a live handoff  and does not                                                               
account for  the use of  anonymous baby boxes. He  concluded that                                                               
the bill  would allow for  safe, anonymous surrender  and provide                                                               
legal immunity,  which he  believes is  a positive  and necessary                                                               
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:53:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN congratulated  Mr. Schrage  on the  birth of  his                                                               
granddaughter and becoming "Grandpa Schrage."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:54:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES asked  about the cost of an  infant safe surrender                                                               
device. She also  inquired how public awareness  would be handled                                                               
if one or more of these devices were installed in a community.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:54:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCRAGE  stated that  he did  not know the  exact cost  of the                                                               
infant safe surrender boxes but estimated  them to be in the tens                                                               
of thousands of dollars. He  explained that installation requires                                                               
building modifications for  alarms, lighting, electrical systems,                                                               
and environmental controls to meet safety standards.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHRAGE said  boxes would be placed  in strategic, accessible                                                               
locations  near  main  transportation routes.  He  described  how                                                               
signage, public education campaigns,  and media coverage, such as                                                               
news stories and social media,  would inform the public. He added                                                               
that  flyers  could  be  distributed  at  shelters,  high-density                                                               
housing,  and  other  locations  where  individuals  needing  the                                                               
service might be reached.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:56:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  asked whether  the cost  of the  infant surrender                                                               
boxes  would be  covered  by the  municipality  or if  nonprofits                                                               
would  be   expected  to  raise   funds.  She  inquired   if  any                                                               
consideration  had  been  given  to  how  the  funding  would  be                                                               
handled.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.   SCHRAGE  stated   that   fundraising   efforts  have   been                                                               
significant,  and he  believed enough  money had  been raised  to                                                               
install at least  one safe surrender box in  Anchorage, though he                                                               
was not certain.  He clarified that there is no  current plan for                                                               
the municipality  to fund the  boxes directly. However,  he noted                                                               
that if  a fire station were  to be newly built  or remodeled, it                                                               
would be  reasonable to include  the cost  of a surrender  box as                                                               
part of the construction project.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:57:29 PM                                                                                                                    
JULIE  CONDELL,  Lead   Dispatcher,  Anchorage  Fire  Department,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, testified by invitation  on SB 9. She said she                                                               
has 18  years of experience  handling 911 emergencies.  She spoke                                                               
in  strong  support  of  SB  9  stating  the  bill  adds  another                                                               
surrender  option without  removing  existing  legal avenues  and                                                               
highlighted the  value of anonymity, which  confidentiality alone                                                               
does not provide. She stressed  that many child abandonment cases                                                               
stem  from   fear  of  being  identified   and  described  infant                                                               
abandonment as a preventable form  of trauma. She shared multiple                                                               
real  incidents, including  a 2013  case in  Eagle River  where a                                                               
baby was  abandoned in  a park  and later  found deceased,  and a                                                               
2021 case in Fairbanks where a baby was left in a box in one-                                                                   
degree weather. She  also cited a 2024 case in  Anchorage where a                                                               
baby was found  deceased just one block from a  fire station. She                                                               
concluded  that  the  ability to  offer  anonymity  through  safe                                                               
surrender  boxes could  prevent  such tragedies  and save  lives,                                                               
reinforcing that protecting life should remain the top priority.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:01:18 PM                                                                                                                    
LONNY  MARLEY,  Council  Member, City  of  Fairbanks,  Fairbanks,                                                               
Alaska, testified  by invitation on SB  9. He stated that  he has                                                               
been  an  advocate  for  infant   safe  surrender  options  since                                                               
December 31,  2021, when a baby  was found in a  cardboard box on                                                               
the side of the road on Chena Pump  Road. He said SB 9 is a clear                                                               
and  necessary  step.  He  shared that,  based  on  his  research                                                               
through  a  firm   in  Florida,  the  cost  of  a   baby  box  is                                                               
approximately  $22,000,   with  an  additional  annual   fee  for                                                               
maintenance and  certification. He mentioned that  the Knights of                                                               
Columbus, although  not present in Fairbanks,  have funded boxes.                                                               
He  identified  three  possible  locations  for  installation  in                                                               
Fairbanks.  He expressed  concern that  the fire  station may  be                                                               
unstaffed  at times  due to  emergency calls  and emphasized  the                                                               
importance  of  choosing  a   staffed,  accessible  location.  He                                                               
concluded by referencing recent  child abuse cases, including the                                                               
bludgeoning deaths of two toddlers,  and questioned whether those                                                               
tragedies  could  have been  prevented  if  baby boxes  had  been                                                               
available as an early intervention option.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:03:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR concluded invited testimony on SB 9.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:03:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR opened public testimony on SB 9.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:04:11 PM                                                                                                                    
PAMELA SAMASH,  representing self,  Nenana, Alaska,  testified in                                                               
support  of SB  9. She  stated that  she and  others have  waited                                                               
years for  the passage of  SB 9  and expressed strong  support on                                                               
behalf of Right  to Life Interior Alaska. She  described the bill                                                               
as an answer to prayer and  shared that a fire official in Nenana                                                               
also supports  the bill and wants  a baby box in  that community.                                                               
She emphasized  the urgency of  safe surrender options  in Alaska                                                               
due to  extreme cold,  noting that  other, warmer  states already                                                               
have baby boxes in place. She  shared a confidential account of a                                                               
mother who,  due to lifelong  trauma, would not  have surrendered                                                               
her baby  face to facehighlighting   the importance  of anonymous                                                               
options. She said funding is not  a barrier, as Interior Right to                                                               
Life  is   ready  to  organize  fundraisers   in  Fairbanks,  and                                                               
representatives from  the Knights  of Columbus  have participated                                                               
in past  events and could help  as well. She concluded  by urging                                                               
the committee to move forward so the community can act.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:06:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL clarified that the  Knights of Columbus is a very                                                               
active  organization  within  the   Catholic  Church  and  has  a                                                               
presence anywhere a Catholic Church exists in Alaska.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:07:19 PM                                                                                                                    
KEN SPIERS,  representing self,  Fairbanks, Alaska,  testified in                                                               
support  of SB  9  by  stating he  agrees  with  others who  have                                                               
testified in support  of the bill. He also  noted his affiliation                                                               
with Interior Right to Life.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:08:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR closed public testimony on SB 9.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:08:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN stated  that she  had questions  about the  bill's                                                               
language  but began  by raising  concerns she  encountered online                                                               
regarding  opposition from  tribal communities  in other  states.                                                               
She  noted  that some  tribal  groups  strongly oppose  anonymous                                                               
infant  surrender  due  to   concerns  about  maintaining  tribal                                                               
connections  for  surrendered  children. She  asked  whether  any                                                               
conversations had  taken place with tribal  communities in Alaska                                                               
to address these concerns.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:08:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS  stated that  no  direct  conversations had  taken                                                               
place  with  tribal  communities  regarding  SB  9.  However,  he                                                               
confirmed discussions with  the Department of Law  and the Office                                                               
of Children's Services (OCS),  recognizing that tribal connection                                                               
is a  significant concern. He  explained that under  the existing                                                               
safe surrender  law, OCS  has policies to  contact tribes  when a                                                               
child  appears  to  be  a  tribal  member.  He  acknowledged  the                                                               
challenge of  confirming identity without  a name and  noted that                                                               
one  of  the  departments  could provide  more  detail  on  those                                                               
procedures.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:09:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  ERICKSON stated  that the  Indian Child  Welfare Act  (ICWA)                                                               
applies to  any child  who enters state  custody under  AS 47.10,                                                               
including  through   the  proposed  statutory  change   under  AS                                                               
47.10.011.  She explained  that a  child surrendered  anonymously                                                               
would trigger  a child-in-need-of-aid proceeding,  which requires                                                               
efforts to identify  the child's parents. She noted  that, in her                                                               
experience,  OCS has  never begun  a case  without at  least some                                                               
information about the  child or one parent.  She acknowledged she                                                               
could not  speak to the  exact procedures  OCS would follow  in a                                                               
case with no identifying information  but confirmed that existing                                                               
policies and  laws already  require notification  and involvement                                                               
of tribes in accordance with ICWA.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:10:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR asked whether the  list of authorized safe surrender                                                               
locations in SB  9, page 2, line 8 should  be expanded to include                                                               
additional tribal  facilities. He  pointed out that  AS 47.32.900                                                               
defines  "rural health  clinic,"  but some  tribal and  community                                                               
health centers  in urban areas,  such as Anchorage, may  not fall                                                               
under  that  definition.  He noted  that  while  hospitals  would                                                               
likely include  facilities like the Alaska  Native Medical Center                                                               
(ANMC), there  may be  other tribal health  centers that  are not                                                               
classified as rural clinics or  hospitals and asked whether those                                                               
should be explicitly included in the legislation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:12:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS responded  by referencing  the Chief  Andrew Isaac                                                               
Health  Center (CAIHC)  in Fairbanks  as an  example of  a tribal                                                               
facility that  is not a  full hospital  but located near  one. He                                                               
acknowledged that  it is not  currently covered under  the listed                                                               
definitions and agreed that the  question was valid, although the                                                               
issue had not been specifically addressed during bill drafting.                                                                 
He stated that,  based on national patterns,  most communities in                                                               
Alaska,  except Anchorage,  would  likely only  install one  baby                                                               
box, making it unlikely for  both Fairbanks Memorial Hospital and                                                               
CAIHC to each have one. He  clarified that the term "rural health                                                               
clinic"  is  defined  under AS  47.32.900  and  includes  certain                                                               
health   care   facilities   in    rural   areas   but   excludes                                                               
rehabilitation and mental health  treatment centers. He expressed                                                               
openness to the  idea of including more facility  types but noted                                                               
uncertainty about  how often such  an addition would be  used. He                                                               
suggested  that   the  bill   already  grants   the  commissioner                                                               
authority  to designate  additional approved  sites, which  could                                                               
include the kinds of tribal  health centers in question. He added                                                               
that the  current list  is modeled after  Maryland's law  and was                                                               
meant to serve as a general framework, not a limit.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:14:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DUNBAR emphasized  the  significant  role tribal  entities                                                               
play  in Alaska's  healthcare system,  public  safety, and  other                                                               
areas. He expressed a preference  for explicitly including tribal                                                               
health facilities  in the list  of authorized locations  for safe                                                               
surrender devices.  He noted that  some clinics in  Anchorage are                                                               
neither hospitals nor classified as  rural health clinics and may                                                               
be  unnecessarily   excluded  under  the  current   language.  He                                                               
acknowledged the  bill's provision  allowing the  commissioner to                                                               
approve  additional  sites  but  stated  that  tribal  facilities                                                               
should not  have to  seek special permission  to be  included. He                                                               
suggested further  discussion with the  Department of Law  on the                                                               
matter.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:14:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES stated  that many urban and rural  clinics are not                                                               
open  24 hours,  making it  necessary to  have an  on-call health                                                               
care provider  if a clinic were  to have a device.  She asked why                                                               
an optional  form for a  parent to fill  out was not  included on                                                               
page 3, line 11 of SB 9.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:16:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS  replied  that  the   DFCS  has  a  form  that  is                                                               
distributed  to police  and  fire departments  so  that a  parent                                                               
surrendering  an  infant  can  choose   whether  to  provide  the                                                               
information. He  said he has  no objection to  including language                                                               
in SB 9  stating that forms are placed inside  the safe surrender                                                               
devices.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:17:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked how  often the  identity of  a surrendering                                                               
parent remains unknown.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:19:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ERICKSON replied that, in  her experience, the identity of at                                                               
least one parent is known.  She said that when someone surrenders                                                               
a child, it  is to the state, which  begins the child-in-need-of-                                                               
aid  proceeding. There  is nothing  in the  language of  AS 47.13                                                               
that  relieves  the  state  of the  obligation  to  initiate  the                                                               
proceeding, which by  definition means the state needs  to try to                                                               
identify the parent  and offer services or another  path, such as                                                               
relinquishment, where tribes are  notified. The statute shields a                                                               
parent from  criminal prosecution but not  necessarily from other                                                               
processes that could make the parent's identity known.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:20:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN contrasted  the  child-in-need-of-aid process  to                                                               
the  anonymity offered  when providing  rape  test kits,  stating                                                               
that  even  though  a  person  may attempt  to  deliver  a  child                                                               
anonymously, as  a practical matter,  their name is  brought into                                                               
the  child-in-need-of-aid proceeding,  where  they provide  their                                                               
perspective before the court rules on adoption.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:21:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ERICKSON replied that is correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:21:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN commented that the process has a lot of merit.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:21:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN said many countries have  phased out the use of the                                                               
device  due to  the United  Nations' stance  that a  child has  a                                                               
right to know their identity.  The United Nations fears there was                                                               
misuse of the devices, such  as surrendering larger children. She                                                               
asked  if there  is  a  definition for  "infant"  in statute  and                                                               
whether there are restrictions on the size of the device.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:22:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS replied  that current statute defines  an infant as                                                               
21  days old  or  younger, which  is  not altered  in  SB 9.  The                                                               
definition of "infant"  in other states ranges from 7  days to 60                                                               
days.  He  said that  while  he  is not  averse  to  a change  in                                                               
definition,   his   understanding  is   that   if   a  child   is                                                               
significantly  larger than  the  defined age,  the provision  for                                                               
safe  surrender no  longer applies,  making criminal  prosecution                                                               
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:23:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN  responded that  her  frustration  with SB  9  and                                                               
anonymous surrender is the inability  to identify a parent in the                                                               
event  an  older child  is  surrendered.  She asked  whether  the                                                               
device is  large enough to hold  an older child and  if there are                                                               
constraints on the device that  would prevent a larger child from                                                               
being placed in it.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MYERS  said his  office found  three companies  that make                                                               
the devices and  obtained the specifications for one  of them. He                                                               
said  that while  a 45-day-old  infant  might fit,  there is  not                                                               
enough space for a larger child, such as a three-year-old.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:25:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN requested  that future dialog on SB  9 include size                                                               
restrictions to deter negative actions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DUNBAR asked if people put pets in the devices.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:26:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS  replied that  he has heard  of that  happening, as                                                               
the devices are  in public locations. As with  many things, there                                                               
is the possibility for abuse.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:27:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR held SB 9 in committee.                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 9 Letters of Support Recieved as of 2.22.25.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 Sponsor Statement version I.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 v. I Sectional Analysis.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 Research US Patent Device for Receiving Surrendered Infant 4.28.2020.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 Version I 1.22.2025.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 Research ADN news Fairbanks Abandoned Infant 1.3.2022.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 Research APM news Anchorage Abandoned Infant 11.6.2024.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 Research Table. State Comparison Infant Safety Devices Requirements.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 Fiscal Note FCS CSM 2.14.25.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 Fiscal Note DOH HFLC 2.14.25.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
SB 9 Fiscal Note DPS AST 2.14.25.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 9
2025.2.25 SB 83 Explanation of Changes N to I.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 83
SB 83 CS Version I.pdf SHSS 2/25/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 83