Legislature(2011 - 2012)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)
02/29/2012 08:00 AM Senate EDUCATION
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| SB6 | |
| SB120 | |
| Adjourn |
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| *+ | SB 120 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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| += | SB 6 | TELECONFERENCED | |
SB 6-PREKINDERGARTEN SCHOOL PROGRAMS/PLANS
8:04:08 AM
CO-CHAIR THOMAS announced the consideration of SB 6 and noted
that CSSB 6( ), version I, was introduced in the previous
meeting. He had objected for the purpose of discussing an
updated fiscal note and now they must adopt the CS in order to
get the updated fiscal note. He then removed his objection and
finding no further objections announced that CSSB 6 ( ), labeled
27-LS0058\I was adopted.
8:05:21 AM
CO-CHAIR MEYER moved to adopt Amendment 1.
27-LS0058\I.1
Kirsch/Mischel
AMENDMENT 1
OFFERED IN THE SENATE BY SENATOR THOMAS
TO: CSSB 6( ), Draft Version "I"
Page 6, line 9, following "receives":
Insert "state"
8:05:35 AM
CO-CHAIR THOMAS objected for the purpose of discussion.
8:05:46 AM
LES MORSE, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Education and
Early Development, Juneau, said Cynthia Curran would answer
questions regarding Amendment 1.
8:05:57 AM
CYNTHIA CURRAN, Director, Teaching and Learning Support,
Department of Education and Early Development (DEED), Juneau,
explained that language in section 9 says a school district "may
not include in the average daily membership of the school
students who are four years of age if the students are enrolled
in a program that receives state funding other than funding
under this chapter." They believe that inserting "state" allows
the programs to seek other grant funding: federal or private. If
that word is not there, they may be precluded from being able to
do that.
8:06:51 AM
CO-CHAIR THOMAS removed his objection. Finding no further
objection, he stated that Amendment 1 was adopted.
CO-CHAIR THOMAS asked how SB 6 might affect the Moore
settlement.
8:08:21 AM
MS. CURRAN answered that the assistant attorney general
determined that they would be able to work through any concerns
that might come up with the Moore settlement.
CO-CHAIR THOMAS asked Senator French if he could review the
Crime Summit information and share it with Senator Stevens after
the meeting.
8:09:51 AM
SENATOR FRENCH said that Senator Stevens was interested in the
dollar savings that can be generated from pre-kindergarten
programs in areas outside of education. In Monday's meeting,
Senator French said he had talked about the beneficial
educational effects in the PPVT study, the Dial-3 curves and so
forth, and he wanted to note two pieces of information. One, the
first Crime Summit, was conducted in Alaska and led to a Cost of
Crime Study done by the Institute of Social and Economic
Research (ISER). It looked at a series of rehabilitation
programs that could lower the crime rate and reduce the rate of
recidivism. Surprisingly, the best program they found state-wide
was Head Start. The study revealed that Head Start for young
children saves six times more than it costs and reduces the
future crime rate among participants by about 16 percent. He
noted that it could take a while to pay off, but the dollar
savings were pretty well established.
8:12:04 AM
SENATOR FRENCH stated that a much more in-depth report on the
same subject came from Annie Pennucci with the Washington State
Institute of Public Policy. She analyzed the findings from 11
individual studies that directly measured crime outcomes and
plotted the effect sizes to summarize whether there was more or
less crime for pre-school students vs. non-pre-school kids, and
how much less crime. The students were sometimes followed into
adulthood to see if they had committed crimes. Findings from
individual studies indicated a range of how much crime is
avoided from preschool; one study found a very small increase,
but on average, crime went down for preschool students about .23
standard deviations, a 20 percent reduction in the crime rate,
which is similar to what the ISER study revealed.
He said that her study qualified the costs in Washington where
you can get a year and a half of preschool for about $7,295. The
three most significant areas of savings are:
1) The reduced crime stemming from lower criminal justice and
victims costs were worth about $6,066.
2) The educational gains stemmed from increased earnings for the
individual were worth about $9,800.
3) The reductions in special education spending that you have to
do for kids who go to pre-kindergarten was worth about $1,000.
If you add all that up, for a $7,295 investment in pre-
kindergarten you get about $21,000 back in savings, a 3:1 ratio.
Those numbers jibe with State of Alaska numbers and it's good to
keep in mind that pre-kindergarten pays benefits outside the
typical areas people think of in the area of education.
8:13:17 AM
CO-CHAIR THOMAS commented that through discussions with the
Department of Corrections commissioner he found this issue was
pervasive throughout the system and that the department was
definitely starting to keep statistics on it.
CO-CHAIR MEYER said those were interesting numbers and that even
the governor's own council had indicated a definite cost savings
in having a pre-K program of some sort. He asked Senator French
if the Head Start Program was the best nationwide or just in
Alaska and how long that had been the case.
8:14:41 AM
SENATOR FRENCH answered that this was ISER looking at programs
currently operating in the State of Alaska and Head Start is the
number one provider here of pre-K at the time. The fact that the
Washington State Institute for Public Policy sort of pulled back
and looked at a series of studies across the nation combined
with the local result from Alaska was just good confirmation
that it's a phenomenon that is repeatable.
CO-CHAIR MEYER commented that pre-K was not initiated in the
past due to the lack of data tracking children from 4 years of
age to age 18 to see what happened to them. But Head Start has
been around long enough to have that data now.
8:16:30 AM
SENATOR FRENCH said the administration deserved some credit for
generating so much information during the pilot program. The
data shows that pre-K education pays off in later gains in
education and in other areas like reducing crime.
8:16:38 AM
SENATOR STEVENS joined the meeting.
CO-CHAIR MEYER commented that the administration's task force
recommendations would not be ready until the June 1 and he was
hoping that they would say that Head Start was the way to go.
Since they don't have that information, he thought they should
go forward with SB 6.
SENATOR STEVENS stated that he was comfortable with what the
committee had done so far and that they could move forward.
8:18:57 AM
CO-CHAIR MEYER moved to report CSSB 6 ( ), version 27-LS0058\I,
as amended, from committee with individual recommendations and
forthcoming fiscal note(s). There was no objection, and CSSB
6(EDC) moved from the Senate Education Standing Committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB0120A.PDF |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| Changes in CSSB 120.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| CS for SB 120.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| Letter of Support - Tonsmeire Kelly (ASDN).pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| Letters of Support.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| Letter of Support - Hensley Abbe (Best Beginnings).pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| SB 120 - Sectional Analysis.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| 2011 PAT State Office Fact Sheet.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| Letter of Support - Berglund Stephanie (Thread).pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| Letter of Support - Bridwell Gara (AEYC).pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| Letter of Support - Lyon Joy (Thread).pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| Letter of Support - Rose Carl (AASB).pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| SB 120 - PAT Value to Military.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| RurAL CAP PAT Presentation Feb 12 to Senate Ed Committee.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| SB 120 - What is Parents as Teachers.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| Why Invest in PAT - Factsheet.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| SB120-EED-TLS-12-7-11.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| 2011 PAT State Office Fact Sheet.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| Why Invest in PAT - Factsheet.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |
| SB 120 - Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SEDC 2/29/2012 8:00:00 AM |
SB 120 |