Legislature(2023 - 2024)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)
03/07/2023 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS
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| SB1 | |
| Adjourn |
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| *+ | SB 19 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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SB 1-ELECTIONS: BALLOT, VOTING, SECURITY
4:41:10 PM
CHAIR KAWASAKI announced the consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 1
"An Act relating to election security, voting, and ballots; and
providing for an effective date."
4:42:13 PM
SENATOR MIKE SHOWER, District O, Alaska State Legislature,
Juneau, Alaska, sponsor of SB 1, stated that many of the
provisions in SB 1 are similar to those in SB 19. They reflect
the bipartisan efforts to improve the elections system in
Alaska. SB 1 addresses over registration, ballot tracking, and
ballot curing. The intent is make the system as fair as
possible, have processes to catch fraud, and restore faith in
the elections system. He deferred to Scott Ogan for further
introduction of SB 1.
4:45:46 PM
SCOTT OGAN, Staff, Senator Mike Shower, Alaska State
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, provided a high level summary of
the sponsor statement for SB 1. It read as follows:
Senate Bill 1 was drafted to address concerns with
chain of custody, ballot security, reporting election
offenses, preserving forensic integrity of ballots,
multi factor authentication ballot curing, ballot
tracking, cybersecurity and Legislative Council's
authority to contract with technical experts.
This measure is part of the bill sponsor's policy
metric to make it easy to vote, yet hard to cheat.
When voting policy makes it easier to vote, the
downside is to make it easier to cheat. This creates
the public perception that our sacred right to vote is
ripe for fraud and undermines voter confidence. When
voting policy is to make it harder to cheat, it makes
it harder to vote. This bill attempts to apply the
policy metric of making it easy to vote, yet hard to
cheat, which most people can agree upon.
Ballot chain of custody protocols must be strengthened
to assure every ballot gets tracked from printer until
22 months after the election. Destroying extra ballots
in precincts exposes the election system to plausible
fraud by destroying forensic integrity of said ballot.
There is no widely published election offense system,
nor is there anyone tasked with being an election
fraud expert in the Department of Law or the Division
of Elections. Election laws are complex and confusing.
Creating an election offense hotline with staff
trained in understanding potential fraud issues will
keep people accountable and build public confidence.
MR. OGAN described multi-factor authentication and advised that
more information was in the bill packets. SB 1 requires the
director to write and implement a cybersecurity plan and it
authorizes Legislative Council to hire technical experts to
conduct forensic audits to verify the security of an election.
4:51:24 PM
CHAIR KAWASAKI turned to Jim Stocker who was invited to provide
testimony by the sponsor's office. He summarized Mr. Stocker's
biography, which includes some months of citizen involvement on
voting issues.
4:51:52 PM
JIM STOCKER, representing self, Palmer, Alaska, provided invited
testimony in support of SB 1. He described SB 1 as a great start
to restore system integrity and voter confidence. He relayed
that he had provided front-line testimony the last seven months
about Alaska's voting system and his perception was that voter
confidence was crashing. He said this was reflected in the poll
numbers for the last election. He relayed that his current
effort was focused on gathering signatures to eliminate the
voter initiative for ranked choice voting. He also recounted his
efforts in the MatSu Valley to eliminate the use of Dominion
voting machines.
MR. STOCKER described the four major concern of voters he speaks
to. These are ranked choice voting, Dominion voting machines,
the reason it takes so long to count votes and voter rolls, and
why the state uses the nonprofit, nonpartisan Electronic
Registration Information Center (ERIC) system. He said he'd just
become aware that states like Missouri, Florida, and Virginia
announced they would no longer use this system.
4:55:09 PM
SENATOR BJORKMAN requested an explanation of the ERIC system.
MR. STOCKER said ERIC is the acronym for the Electronic
Registration Information Center whose objective is to improve
the accuracy of voter registration. He said it's obvious that it
doesn't work because the numbers don't match and former
President Trump has encouraged GOP governors to stop using the
system. He encouraged people who were interested to look at who
founded and funded ERIC. He continued that if he were to make a
statement based on pure conjecture, he'd say the system is
criminal.
4:56:23 PM
SENATOR BJORKMAN asked if it was his understanding that the ERIC
system provided a way for states to track whether people were
also registered to vote in another state so they could be
removed from the voter rolls.
MR. STOCKER said that's the objective but it's not working. His
belief is that in Alaska there are more ballots sent out than
the number of registered voters on the rolls and it seems to be
that way in other states. He acknowledged that he wasn't an
expert and encouraged the committee to take a deeper look.
4:57:36 PM
SENATOR BJORKMAN asked if there was a timeline states have to
follow before they remove someone if they are not found to be
registered in another state.
MR. STOCKER said he didn't know.
SENATOR BJORKMAN commented that it would be interesting to know
whether the ERIC system speeds the process for removing someone
from the voter rolls.
4:58:21 PM
MR. OGAN offered his understanding that plus or minus 30 states
participate in the ERIC system. What it does is crosscheck
whether or not people are registered to vote in another state.
He noted that the Public Interest Legal Foundation has developed
best practices for a 50-state solution. It uses more databases
to update voter rolls.
4:59:09 PM
SENATOR SHOWER added that ERIC has a twofold problem. First, it
violates the National Voting Rights Act of 1964 and second, it
isn't a government entity so there is no oversight from state
government. He continued that without a true forensic audit,
nobody can say definitively that there was or was not fraud in
the last election. He concluded that the goal of SB 1 is to do
better with elections.
5:01:17 PM
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked whether the Division of Elections
(DOE) would appear before the committee again on Thursday.
CHAIR KAWASAKI confirmed that the committee would hear from
several elections officials on Thursday.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said he'd be interested in hearing the
division discuss the concerns that have been articulated today
and whether they merit further scrutiny. He emphasized that if
the claims are accurate they need to be fixed, and if they
aren't accurate the public should be informed.
5:02:54 PM
SENATOR MERRICK asked the sponsor to describe a forensic audit
and how it differs from a regular audit.
SENATOR SHOWER clarified that the accurate term was a risk
limiting audit. It entails a look into the system to determine
whether people on the voter rolls are actually eligible and
appropriately registered to vote.
5:05:12 PM
MR. OGAN directed attention to a document in the packet titled
"De-weaponizing and Standardizing the Post-Election Audit" that
outlines the parameters for credible audits.
CHAIR KAWASAKI thanked the sponsor and other participants and
held SB 1 in committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB 1 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 1 |
| SB 1 Sectional Analysis.pdf |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 1 |
| SB 1 backup documents1 Fl.election. integrity.pdf |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 1 |
| SB 1 backup documents2 election.cybersecurity.pdf |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 1 |
| SB 1 backup documents3 chain. of.custody.pdf |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 1 |
| SB 1 backup documents4 post.election.audits.pdf |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 1 |
| SB 19.Sponsor.Statement.pdf |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 19 |
| Sectional analysis SB 19.pdf |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 19 |
| SB 19 Testimony NVAHI 03.07.2023 (003).pdf |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 19 |
| SD AK SB 1 SB 19 Testimony 3.2023 (003).pdf |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 1 SB 19 |
| An Open Letter From ERIC.docx |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 1 |
| Why does Alaska have a 106% voter registration rate.docx |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 1 |
| SB0001A.PDF |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 1 |
| SB0019A.PDF |
SSTA 3/7/2023 3:30:00 PM |
SB 19 |