Legislature(2025 - 2026)BARNES 124

02/12/2025 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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01:02:10 PM Start
01:03:20 PM Presentation(s): Executive Order 136, Creating the Alaska Department of Agriculture
01:10:11 PM HSCR1|| EO136
03:06:44 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: Executive Order 136, Creating the TELECONFERENCED
Alaska Department of Agriculture by Commissioner
John Boyle; Brent Goodrum, Deputy Commissioner,
Department of Natural Resources; and Andrew
Jensen, Policy Advisor, Office of the Governor
*+ HSCR 1 DISAPPROVE EO 136 TELECONFERENCED
Failed to Move Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ EO 136: ESTABLISHING THE DEPARTMENT OF TELECONFERENCED
AGRICULTURE AND TRANSFERRING FUNCTIONS OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES RELATING TO
AGRICULTURE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
Considered
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                    HSCR 1-DISAPPROVE EO 136                                                                                
                      Executive Order 136                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:10:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE announced that the next order of business would                                                                  
be HOUSE SPECIAL CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 1, Disapproving                                                                      
Executive Order No. 136.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:10:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BOYLE, Commissioner, Department  of Natural Resources, State                                                               
of Alaska, co-offered a PowerPoint  regarding Executive Order 136                                                               
(EO  136)   which  would  establish  the   Alaska  Department  of                                                               
Agriculture.   [hard copy included  in the committee packet]   He                                                               
provided the committee with context,  referring to 2020, early in                                                               
the  Covid 19  pandemic,  which exposed  the  tenuousness of  the                                                               
supply chain  with closed ports  and the Canadian  border closed.                                                               
For the Governor, it underscored  how important food security was                                                               
for the state, raising the  question of how Alaskans could become                                                               
more self-sufficient and more food secure.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BOYLE pointed out that  a focus on agriculture would                                                               
create  new opportunities  for  Alaskans  interested in  becoming                                                               
farmers and producing food.   He described the history of farming                                                               
in Alaska  when the  state produced  approximately 50  percent of                                                               
the food  consumed and described the  farming communities created                                                               
during the Great  Depression.  He emphasized the  importance of a                                                               
cabinet level  position who  could work  with agriculture-related                                                               
groups  such  as  the University  of  Alaska,  soil  conservation                                                               
districts, the  United States  Department of  Agriculture (USDA),                                                               
and the  Alaska Farm Bureau.   He  provided examples of  when the                                                               
Department  of Natural  Resources (DNR)  helped individuals  find                                                               
markets for  Alaska milk and agriculture  products which resulted                                                               
in  expanded   operations,  more  economy  of   scale,  and  more                                                               
competitive products.   He  pointed out  that local  products are                                                               
fresher and have a longer shelf  life.  He reiterated his support                                                               
for an Alaska  Department of Agriculture with  a commissioner who                                                               
can lead  initiatives, be a  spokesperson, inform  policy makers,                                                               
increase  profitability,  contribute   to  the  state's  economic                                                               
health,  and  leave  future Alaskans  with  a  rich  agricultural                                                               
heritage.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:23:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRENT  GOODRUM,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources,  State of  Alaska, co-offered  a PowerPoint  regarding                                                               
Executive  Order 136,  titled "Executive  Order 136  Establishing                                                               
the  Department  of  Agriculture"  [hard  copy  included  in  the                                                               
committee   packet].     He  showed   slide  2,   titled  "Alaska                                                               
Agriculture:  Status Report,"  which  read  as follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Robust Alaska agriculture is a long-held vision                                                                          
     • Hardy Alaskans are farming                                                                                               
     • 2022 national census: 1,173 Alaska farms and ranches                                                                     
      produced about $39.7 million in crop value and $51.2                                                                      
     million in animal production                                                                                               
       • So much more potential  with dedicated, focused,                                                                       
     expert support                                                                                                             
     • Why grow agriculture?                                                                                                    
     • Greater food security and independence for Alaskans                                                                      
     • Further develop an important economic sector (jobs,                                                                      
     value chain benefits)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GOODRUM summarized  Alaska's  agriculture history,  pointing                                                               
out the symbol of agriculture  featured on the Alaska state seal.                                                               
He explained that  the Department of Agriculture  created in 1945                                                               
by the  territorial government  became a division  of DNR  at the                                                               
time of  statehood.   He discussed the  statistics from  the 2022                                                               
USDA National Agricultural Statistical  Service and described the                                                               
potential for  additional growth.   He pointed out  that Alaska's                                                               
size  and   diversity,  abundant  lands,  clean   water,  and  an                                                               
expanding growing  season could  meet the  need for  greater food                                                               
security    and    independence,     counteract    supply    line                                                               
vulnerabilities, and strengthen an important economic sector.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:25:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM showed  slide 3, titled "Executive  Order 136," which                                                               
read as follows[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Establishes the Alaska Department of Agriculture                                                                           
     • Transitions in full the  Division of Agriculture from                                                                    
     the Department  of Natural Resources  (DNR) to  the new                                                                    
     department                                                                                                                 
     • Statutory responsibilities, functions, do not change                                                                     
     •   Provides   transitionary  measures   for   seamless                                                                    
     reorganization                                                                                                             
     • Effective July 1, 2025                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GOODRUM moved  to slide  4, titled  "Vision," which  read as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     •  Governor's  overarching   goal:  increase  focus  on                                                                    
     agriculture   and  food   security  with   a  dedicated                                                                    
     department and leadership                                                                                                  
     •  Focus  will help  develop  a  robust, durable  state                                                                    
     agricultural  policy, including  a strategic  plan with                                                                    
     an implementation roadmap                                                                                                  
     •   Continuation   of   the   Governor's   budget   and                                                                    
     legislative  policy  actions   following  the  COVID-19                                                                    
     pandemic to enhance food security in Alaska                                                                                
     • Aligns  with top  recommendations of task  forces and                                                                    
     stakeholders                                                                                                               
     •  New  department  is  first  step  to  provide  solid                                                                    
     foundation for future growth                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM  reiterated Governor Dunleavy's focus  on agriculture                                                               
and   food  security,   emphasizing  that   a  solely   dedicated                                                               
department  and leadership  team would  help develop  a strategic                                                               
plan and  drive statewide agricultural  policies.   He emphasized                                                               
the  importance  of   a  cabinet  level  seat   to  advocate  for                                                               
agricultural solutions  for Alaska.   He  showed slide  5, titled                                                               
"Improved results for Alaskans,"  which read as follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •    Robust,    durable   agriculture    policy    with                                                                    
     implementation plan                                                                                                        
     •   Stronger  strategic   alignment  with   stakeholder                                                                    
     groups, Alaska agriculture entities                                                                                        
     • More  consistent, proactive interaction  with federal                                                                    
     partners                                                                                                                   
     • Cabinet-level agriculture advocacy                                                                                       
        Opportunity   for  greater  legislative   focus  and                                                                    
     attention                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:28:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GOODRUM   briefly  touched  upon  the   diversity  of  DNR'S                                                               
programs,  functions, and  economics, including  the Division  of                                                               
Agriculture.   He showed slide  6, titled "Today's  Department of                                                               
Natural Resources,"  which read as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •  1,054 employees  (767 PFT,  215 PPT,  72 NP)  across                                                                    
     seven divisions, two offices                                                                                               
     • Led by commissioner supported by two deputies                                                                            
     • Statewide offices, programs and sites                                                                                    
     •   FY2025   Management   Plan  budget   (all   funds):                                                                    
     $173,399.3                                                                                                                 
     • DNR returns  $21 to the state treasury  for every UGF                                                                    
     dollar appropriated                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     PFT: Permanent full-time                                                                                                   
     NP: Non-permanent                                                                                                          
     PPT: Permanent part-time                                                                                                   
     UGF: Unrestricted general fund                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM  emphasized the  final point  on slide  6, explaining                                                               
that  the money  DNR returns  to the  Alaska treasury  amounts to                                                               
$1.8  billion.   He  moved to  slides  7 and  8,  which showed  a                                                               
breakdown   of  the   division,  including   funding,  employees,                                                               
projects, functions,  and areas  of responsibility.   Both slides                                                               
were  titled  "Today's  Division  of Agriculture,"  and  read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Division Director                                                                                                          
     • Programs separated into Agriculture Development and                                                                      
     Plant Materials Center sections                                                                                            
     • Employees: 37 total (32 PFT and 5 PPT)                                                                                   
     • FY2025 Management Plan: $7,176.2 all funds                                                                               
     • Headquarters in Palmer                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • Inspections, certifications                                                                                              
    •   Farm,   production   loans   through   Agricultural                                                                     
     Revolving Loan Fund                                                                                                        
      • Alaska Grown and other promotion (state, national,                                                                      
     international)                                                                                                             
     • Agricultural land sales / leases support                                                                                 
     • Administers federal grants to Alaskans                                                                                   
     • Future Farmers of America                                                                                                
     • Seed storage and production, varietal trials                                                                             
     • Seed cleaning services rendered                                                                                          
     • Revegetation and erosion control consulting                                                                              
     • Industrial hemp regulation                                                                                               
     • Invasive plant, pest management                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM  next showed slide  9, titled  "Tomorrow's Department                                                               
of Agriculture,"  which showed a  proposed organization  chart of                                                               
the proposed department.   The slide also showed  a break-down of                                                               
employees and  funding and read as  follows [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Responsible leadership, organizational structures                                                                        
        • Primed for build-out over time with increased                                                                         
     programming, responsibilities                                                                                              
     • Employees: 50 total (45 PFT and 5 PPT)                                                                                   
     • FY2026 increment: $2,734.4 UGF                                                                                           
     • Headquarters in Palmer                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM  moved to slide  10, titled "Costs    New Positions,"                                                               
which outlined department  positions and salaries.   Slide 11 was                                                               
titled "Costs  Comparison" and showed  a break-down of the  FY 25                                                               
and FY  26 budgets  as well  as a  comparison of  DNR/Division of                                                               
Agriculture and Department of Agriculture  costs.  He pointed out                                                               
that the  budget not only  would increase food security  and grow                                                               
the agriculture sector  but would also grow  the production value                                                               
of Alaska agriculture.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM moved  to slide 12, titled "Timeline,"  and slide 13,                                                               
titled "Transition  work," which  summarized the steps  to create                                                               
the Alaska Department of Agriculture  using EO 136, which read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Transition work includes:                                                                                                  
     - Stakeholder engagement / education                                                                                       
     - Employee town hall                                                                                                       
    -   Prepare   and   submit   documents   for   position                                                                     
     reclassifications                                                                                                          
     - Post, hire and train new positions                                                                                       
     - Governor appoints new commissioner                                                                                       
     - Public-facing website updated and launched                                                                               
        - Update signage, public-facing access points on                                                                        
     buildings                                                                                                                  
       - Work with the Division of Finance on changes to                                                                        
     Integrated Resource Information System (IRIS)                                                                              
     - Information Technology transitions                                                                                       
       - Plan inter-departmental coordination with DNR /                                                                        
     lands                                                                                                                      
       - July 1, 2025  Department of Agriculture is legal                                                                       
     operating entity                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:35:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RENA  MILLER,  Special  Assistant  to  the  Commissioner,  Alaska                                                               
Department of  Natural Resources, presented a  sectional analysis                                                               
of Executive Order  136.  She explained that most  of the changes                                                               
were  conforming   changes  such  as  revising   wording  to  say                                                               
"department"  rather  than  "division"   or  changing  the  words                                                               
"natural  resources"   to  "agriculture."    She   discussed  the                                                               
following changes  outlined on slide 14,  titled "Executive Order                                                               
136     Sectional  Analysis," which  read  as  follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1,  the Governor  finds  that  it  is in  the  best                                                               
     interests of efficient administration  to establish this the                                                               
     Department of  Agriculture and to transfer  the functions of                                                               
     DNR as they relate to agriculture to the new department.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  2   through  21  goes  into   Title  3,  regarding                                                               
     different   food  responsibilities   of   the  state   which                                                               
     separates  and  allocates  responsibility   to  DNR  or  the                                                               
     Department of  Environment Conservation (DEC).   Examples of                                                               
     revisions  in  this  section   would  include  changing  the                                                               
     "Commissioner  of  Natural  Resources" to  "Commissioner  of                                                               
     Agriculture."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 22 is an amendment to Title 9.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 23  relates to  the collection  of fees  under Title                                                               
     37.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section  24  through  29 reflects  amendments  to  Title  38                                                               
     relating   to   public   lands.     These   changes   update                                                               
     consultations,  so  the  commissioner of  natural  resources                                                               
     would  consult  with  the  commissioner  of  agriculture  on                                                               
     behalf of the board of agriculture and conservation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section  30  through  36  apply  to  Title  38  as  well  as                                                               
     referring  to  statutes  related  to  the  Natural  Resource                                                               
     Conservation and  Development Board  which is  being renamed                                                               
     the  Soil and  Water Conservation  and Development  Board to                                                               
     better reflect its responsibilities under statute.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  37  through 40  reflect  amendments  to Title  44,                                                               
     including the  addition of the Department  of Agriculture to                                                               
     the  offices and  departments of  the  state government  and                                                               
     adds the duties of the Department of Agriculture.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 41  repeals three statutes relating  to the Division                                                               
     of Agriculture within DNR.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  42  concerns  revisor's instructions  for  changing                                                               
     catchlines and titles.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  43 applies  to  transitional provisions  concerning                                                               
     non-statutory matters which would  be carried forward to the                                                               
     new Department.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 44 sets an effective date.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:42:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER  responded to a  question from  Representative Saddler                                                               
by  acknowledging  an  EO  does  not  need  a  fiscal  note,  but                                                               
specified  there is  a statement  of cost  included with  the EO.                                                               
She asked  the committee  to direct  questions regarding  cost to                                                               
Mr. Goodrum.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:43:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GOODRUM, in  response to  Representative Saddler's  question                                                               
concerning costs,  growth, and responsibilities, stated  that the                                                               
EO is  an important  first step to  establishing a  Department of                                                               
Agriculture in Alaska.   He characterized it as  a minimalist but                                                               
appropriate  step  to  build  upon.    He  drew  the  committee's                                                               
attention to the  costs outlined on slides 9 and  10, relating to                                                               
the commissioner's office and support system.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:45:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BOYLE addressed a  question from Representative Elam                                                               
regarding   whether  DNR   had   reached  out   to  boroughs   or                                                               
municipalities, describing  the process  DNR used  to set  up the                                                               
proposed department.   He pointed  out a new department  would be                                                               
geared  to offer  assistance to  small  family farms  as well  as                                                               
people who  would like to  have backyard chickens,  goats, raised                                                               
bed  gardens,  or  greenhouses.    He  explained  that  having  a                                                               
department focused  on agriculture is  an asset to  small farmers                                                               
in  Alaska as  well as  large  growers.   Achieving economies  of                                                               
scale would come from a greater involvement in agriculture.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:49:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BOYLE  responded to  a question  from Representative                                                               
Mears regarding  whether other  divisions would  move to  the new                                                               
department  by explaining  the new  commissioner would  determine                                                               
the most efficacious  way to consolidate functions.   Some things                                                               
would overlap well,  but certain tasks would be  better served in                                                               
other departments.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:52:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM  responded to questions from  Representative Coulombe                                                               
regarding two  divisions which would  not be incorporated  in the                                                               
Department  of   Agriculture.    He  explained   that  the  state                                                               
veterinarian  has an  expansive  list  of responsibilities  which                                                               
overlap departments.   Similarly,  there are  several overlapping                                                               
programs that  have federal primacy  which would  require further                                                               
evaluation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:54:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BOYLE  added context  to the question  regarding the                                                               
state  veterinarian,  explaining  the   importance  of  taking  a                                                               
measured approach, so  the process would not  be frontloaded with                                                               
lots of costs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:56:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BOYLE  responded to  a question  from Representative                                                               
Fields by  explaining that  mariculture functions  would continue                                                               
to  be part  of  DNR within  the Division  of  Mining, Land,  and                                                               
Waters because  there is  a nexus between  land leasing  and land                                                               
management authorities.   Regarding carbon  sequestration, carbon                                                               
has impacts on  state leasing and land management, and  DNR is in                                                               
charge of state land leasing.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:58:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BOYLE  addressed  a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Saddler  regarding whether  an  agriculture  department would  be                                                               
more  efficient  than  the  current  agriculture  division.    He                                                               
explained that  the efficiency would  come from having  a cabinet                                                               
level position  which can advocate specifically  for agriculture.                                                               
There  are limitations  regarding how  much influence  a division                                                               
director can  have because  the direction  of the  department and                                                               
the budgeting priorities are framed  by the commissioner and then                                                               
framed by the  governor.  If the commissioner  is more interested                                                               
in rocks than agriculture, it  influences the scope of the entire                                                               
department.   On the  other hand,  a commissioner  of agriculture                                                               
could engage  in local, state,  and federal programs  which would                                                               
result  in more  progress in  the agricultural  sector and  would                                                               
have a positive impact on food security.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BOYLE  responded to  a question  from Representative                                                               
Saddler as to  whether a similar point could be  made for oil and                                                               
gas  by explaining  that Alaska  doesn't have  trouble attracting                                                               
investment in oil  and gas.  The oil and  gas division deals with                                                               
permitting, regulating, administering  leases, and managing land.                                                               
There  is not  a need  to attract  more interest  in oil  and gas                                                               
investment.   This  contrasts with  agriculture  in Alaska  where                                                               
changes in  climate, lengthening  growing seasons,  and increased                                                               
interest  in indoor  vertical gardens  provide opportunities  for                                                               
investment.  A commissioner dedicated  to the agricultural sector                                                               
is  in a  better position  to  work with  entities interested  in                                                               
Alaska investment potential.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:04:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BOYLE  responded to  a question  from Representative                                                               
Hall regarding  the Cooperative  Extension Service  by explaining                                                               
it is an  outlet for individual farmers,  prospective farmers, or                                                               
hobbyists  to get  tips or  information regarding  services; what                                                               
grows well in certain areas;  and what the differences in climate                                                               
mean to farming.  A  commissioner of agriculture would strengthen                                                               
the  ties between  the University  of  Alaska, soil  conservation                                                               
districts, the experimental farms, and government agencies.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:07:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BOYLE responded  to Representative  Mear's question                                                               
regarding  keeping the  Division of  Forestry in  DNR instead  of                                                               
moving it  to the Department  of Agriculture.  He  explained that                                                               
forestry  and  fire  management   work  together  and  that  fire                                                               
management  is not  a good  fit  for agriculture.   In  addition,                                                               
DNR's core mission is to focus  on natural resources, so it makes                                                               
more sense to keep forestry in DNR.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:10:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   BOYLE,   in   response    to   a   question   from                                                               
Representative  Rauscher, explained  that kelp  farming would  be                                                               
considered part of mariculture and would currently stay in DNR.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:11:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BOYLE responded  to  questions from  Representative                                                               
Saddler  and   Co-Chair  Burke  regarding  the   potential  of  a                                                               
department of  agriculture bringing  more income into  the state.                                                               
He explained that  over time the department  of agriculture could                                                               
attract more  federal agriculture money  to the state.   The USDA                                                               
funding has  not kept track of  Alaska the way it  has with other                                                               
states and has cut USDA programs  in part because there was not a                                                               
dedicated commissioner  working with Washington D.C.  to advocate                                                               
for  Alaska's interests.   Additionally,  a dedicated  department                                                               
would  be more  sensitive  to the  interests  of specific  Alaska                                                               
stakeholders.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:15:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   BOYLE   responded   to  several   questions   from                                                               
Representative Hall  regarding personnel.  He  explained that the                                                               
division   of   agriculture   would   use   the   Department   of                                                               
Administration   to  coordinate   employment   and  that   hiring                                                               
challenges were not  anticipated due to the level  of interest in                                                               
the new  department.  Additionally,  many of the  positions would                                                               
simply  be transferred  from  the existing  division  to the  new                                                               
department.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:19:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM responded to a  question from Representative Coulombe                                                               
by  explaining that  the Executive  Order can't  be amended,  and                                                               
funding issues for  the proposed department would be  part of the                                                               
legislature's budgetary process.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:20:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALVIN ZUELOW,  Staff, Representative Robyn Niayuq  Burke, Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  read HOUSE SPECIAL CONCURRENT  RESOLUTION NO.                                                               
1 Disapproving Executive Order No. 136 into the record.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:21:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE opened public testimony on HSCR 1 and EO 136.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:22:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBBI  MIXON, Executive  Director,  Alaska  Food Policy  Council,                                                               
spoke  in  support  of  establishing  the  Alaska  Department  of                                                               
Agriculture.   She  emphasized that  Alaska  is only  one of  two                                                               
states in  the United States  without an  agriculture department.                                                               
She  said having  an agriculture  department would  increase food                                                               
security,  support  local  farmers, boost  economic  growth,  and                                                               
result  in  affordable local  food.    It would  enable  expanded                                                               
research  in Arctic  agriculture, enhance  disaster preparedness,                                                               
and help  meet the needs  of people  living off the  road system.                                                               
She responded to a question  from Representative Fields regarding                                                               
balancing a  lower permanent  fund dividend  with creating  a new                                                               
department by explaining  that she personally felt it  was a good                                                               
investment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:26:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SCOT MUGRAGE, President, Alaska Farm  Bureau, spoke in support of                                                               
establishing the Alaska Department  of Agriculture.  He explained                                                               
that he raised beef cattle as  well as producing most of the feed                                                               
to sustain his  herds.  He listed his reasons  for supporting the                                                               
new department as achieving  sustainable food security; expanding                                                               
farm production;  attracting new farmers; reducing  dependence on                                                               
imported food; developing  diverse climate-suited crops; creating                                                               
a more balanced  trade environment; and reducing  reliance on oil                                                               
and  gas for  state funding.   He  responded to  a question  from                                                               
Representative Fields regarding balancing  a lower permanent fund                                                               
dividend  with creating  a new  department by  positing that  the                                                               
lower  cost  of food  would  more  than  make  up for  the  lower                                                               
dividend.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:30:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MUGRAGE responded to a  question from Representative Coulombe                                                               
regarding  the cost  of fuel  by explaining  that as  one of  the                                                               
largest  agriculture producers  in  Alaska, his  use  of fuel  is                                                               
extensive.   He explained how  a department of  agriculture would                                                               
help  cut  costs.    He  pointed  out  that  Alaska  quit  making                                                               
investments  both  in  three-phase   power  and  in  research  to                                                               
increase production of small grains.   However, with the addition                                                               
of geneticists  and climate  change technologies,  Alaska farmers                                                               
can catch up with other states.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:34:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BETH  VAN   SANDT,  Representing   Self,  spoke  in   support  of                                                               
establishing  the   Alaska  Department   of  Agriculture.     She                                                               
described her experience  as a peony farmer in Homer  and how she                                                               
has  seen growth  in  the  cut flower  industry  in  Alaska.   An                                                               
agricultural  department  would  be   able  to  research  Alaska-                                                               
specific issues regarding pests,  minerals, viruses, climate, and                                                               
soils as well as assist  in developing agricultural tourism.  She                                                               
explained  that   an  agriculture  department  could   assist  in                                                               
establishing   reliable   transportation  of   fresh   perishable                                                               
products not just peonies.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:42:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
INGA  PETERSON,  President,  Alaska Future  Farmers  of  America,                                                               
spoke  in  support  of  establishing  the  Alaska  Department  of                                                               
Agriculture.   As  a  member  of the  Future  Farmers of  America                                                               
(FFA), she  is part  of a  young workforce  which is  looking for                                                               
opportunities in  agriculture and  is interested  in contributing                                                               
to their communities.   She has worked on a  peony farm and would                                                               
like  to  own  her  own  peony   farm  as  well  as  becoming  an                                                               
agriculture  educator in  Alaska.   A  Department of  Agriculture                                                               
would support FFA's goals as  well as contribute to food security                                                               
and sustainability.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. PETERSON  responded to questions from  Representative Saddler                                                               
and  Representative  Coulombe  by   explaining  that  she  became                                                               
involved in FFA when she was  in 9th grade.  The organization has                                                               
expanded  beyond agriculture  and  now also  teaches life  skills                                                               
such  as welding,  public speaking,  soil  analysis, and  machine                                                               
repair.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:48:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE,  after ascertaining  that there  was no  one else                                                               
who wished to  testify, closed public testimony on HSCR  1 and EO                                                               
136.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:49:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE  said  she  would  entertain  a  motion  to  move                                                               
Executive Order  136 and House Special  Concurrent Resolution No.                                                               
1 from committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS moved  to report  EO 1  and HSCR  1 out  of                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  objected.   He  explained  he wanted  to                                                               
clarify that  the committee just  has to acknowledge that  EO 136                                                               
was  heard  by   the  committee.    "Our   approval  doesn't  say                                                               
necessarily that we support it or  approve it.  But having HSCR 1                                                               
as well, which is kind of  the antithesis, we're also just voting                                                               
to pass it through. We're not saying  yes or no.  Just to clarify                                                               
what the effect of the vote is."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE stated  that "just  for  clarification, we  spoke                                                               
with  legislative  legal,  and  their request  is  that  they  go                                                               
together, concurrently, because they were co-related."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:49:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:49 p.m. to 3:01 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:01:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS withdrew  her motion  and asked  to restate                                                               
the motion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS moved  to report  Executive Order  136 from                                                               
committee.  There being no objection,  EO 136 was reported out of                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS moved to report HSCR 1 out of committee.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER objected.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE asked  if Representative  Rauscher would  like to                                                               
speak to his objection.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER said "no."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE asked  whether there  was any  discussion on  the                                                               
objection   and   asked   Representative  Rauscher   whether   he                                                               
maintained his objection.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER said "yes."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE  said she  wanted  to  clarify what  was                                                               
being voted on.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE clarified that it was the resolution [HSCR 1].                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE reiterated  that the  resolution rejects                                                               
the EO,  so a "yes"  vote means  a vote to  reject the EO,  and a                                                               
"no" vote means "you don't want to  reject the EO.  It's a double                                                               
negative."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER  pointed  out  that both  can  be  moved                                                               
forward  and then  be decided  in another  committee how  both of                                                               
them will be handled.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  clarified what  a yes  vote means.   The                                                               
resolution says the EO is rejected.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE reiterated that it disapproves EO 136.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  further clarified  that so if  she votes                                                               
"yes," that means,  "Yes, I would like to disapprove  the EO, and                                                               
'no' means I don't  want to disapprove.  A 'yes'  means I want to                                                               
disapprove.  Correct?"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE said that was her understanding.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS offered  her understanding  that they  were                                                               
just moving  it from  committee and that  they were  not actually                                                               
voting  on the  resolution, so  it's moving  forward to  the next                                                               
committee of referral.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER  pointed  out  that  the  committee  was                                                               
voting on whether or not to move the resolution from committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  specified,  for  the  public,  that  the                                                               
question they were dealing with, as follows:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     What  was actually  the effect  of  whatever vote  they                                                                    
     take, whether the  'yes' is 'no' but  also whether this                                                                    
     is  actually   formally  taking  a  position   on  this                                                                    
     resolution  or   simply  to  pass   it  through.     My                                                                    
     understanding, and  what will  motivate my vote,  is to                                                                    
     know  this  is the  final  decision  as stated  by  the                                                                    
     entire  body, not  just this  committee.   I understand                                                                    
     this  vote is  to  move it  through  committee, not  to                                                                    
     express my support  or opposition to it,  but simply to                                                                    
     advance it through the committee for a final decision                                                                      
          at a later place in the process.  That's my                                                                           
     understanding.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE said  that was her understanding and  that was the                                                               
recommendation  the  committee  received from  Legislative  Legal                                                               
Services to move it along, so it moves with the executive order.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE requested  that the  motion be  repeated                                                               
before the vote.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS explained  that the motion was  to move HSCR
1 from committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives Hall,  Mears, and                                                               
Burke  voted   in  favor  of   moving  HSCR  1   from  committee.                                                               
Representatives  Elam,  Coulombe,  Rauscher,  and  Saddler  voted                                                               
against moving  it from committee.   Therefore, HSCR 1  failed to                                                               
move from the House Resources Standing Committee by a vote of 3-                                                                
4.                                                                                                                              

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
EO 136 Dept of Ag Statement of Cost 02.11.25.pdf HRES 2/12/2025 1:00:00 PM
DNR presentation on EO 136
EO136 Dept of Agriculture DNR presentation HRES 2.12.2025.pdf HRES 2/12/2025 1:00:00 PM
DNR presentation on EO 136
2023-2024 AFSTF Recommendations.pdf HRES 2/12/2025 1:00:00 PM
exor0136.pdf HRES 2/12/2025 1:00:00 PM
Executive Order 136
Support for Dept of Ag 2-10-24.01d.pdf HRES 2/12/2025 1:00:00 PM
HSCR 1
Support for HSCR 1 - Tom Boutin.pdf HRES 2/12/2025 1:00:00 PM
HSCR 1
Support for HSCR 1 - Susan A.pdf HRES 2/12/2025 1:00:00 PM
HSCR 1
AFSTF Report 2024 FINAL.pdf HRES 2/12/2025 1:00:00 PM
EO136-Support-AK Farm Bureau 2.18.25.pdf HRES 2/12/2025 1:00:00 PM
HSCR 1
EO136-Support-AK Food Policy Council 2-17-2025.pdf HRES 2/12/2025 1:00:00 PM
HSCR 1