Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120
04/23/2024 10:00 AM House FISHERIES
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HR 8-FISHERIES BYCATCH REGULATIONS 10:04:46 AM CHAIR VANCE announced that the first order of business would be HOUSE RESOLUTION NO. 8, Encouraging the Department of Fish and Game to adopt certain regulations relating to fisheries bycatch. 10:05:06 AM JAKE ALMEIDA, Staff, Representative Sarah Vance, Alaska State Legislature, introduced HB 8, on behalf of the prime sponsor, Representative Vance. He paraphrased from the sponsor statement [copy included in the committee packet], which read as follows [original punctuation provided]: House Resolution 8 encourages the Department of Fish and Game, through the department's regulatory authority and through the commissioner's seat on the North Pacific Fishery Management Council (NPFMC) to support actions and regulatory changes on both the state and federal levels to reduce bycatch. Alaska's rich marine resources support thriving fisheries managed by the NPFMC under the Magnuson- Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act. However, alongside the targeted harvest of seafood, these fisheries inevitably result in bycatch fish caught incidentally and often discarded due to regulatory constraints or unsuitability for commercial use. Bycatch poses significant challenges to the health and sustainability of marine ecosystems, as well as to the economic viability of fishing operations and ultimately Alaskans' way of life. Current regulations allow for the annual discard of tens of millions of pounds of fish in the Bering Sea and Gulf of Alaska waters, representing a substantial loss of potential food resources and economic value. Moreover, this resolution acknowledges the recommendations of the Alaska Bycatch Review Task Force (ABRT) and the Bycatch Advisory Council which emphasized the importance of incremental regulatory changes to improve bycatch reduction, particularly for species caught with non-targeted gear or discarded due to regulatory requirements. In essence, HR 8 represents a proactive step towards more sustainable fishing practices in Alaska's federal fisheries by emphasizing the need to reduce bycatch. It underscores the importance of balancing economic interests with environmental conservation to achieve a more resilient and prosperous future for Alaska's fisheries and way of life. 10:07:37 AM MR. ALMEIDA stated that the draft of the proposed resolution before the committee focuses on the utilization of bycatch; however, in reaction to public comment, the sponsor has changed the focus to reducing bycatch. He pointed out the decline in the state's fisheries resource and that Alaskans need solutions. He pointed out this could be done by utilizing bycatch or by furthering regulatory restraints, but he argued that all bycatch is wanton waste and needs to be reduced as soon as possible. He stated that the Bycatch Advisory Council held a meeting last week and adopted findings based on the utilization of bycatch. He stated that Brian Gabriel would speak to these findings. 10:10:33 AM BRIAN GABRIEL, Mayor, City of Kenai, gave invited testimony on HB 8. He stated that he held a seat on the Alaska Bycatch Review Task Force, which finished its work in November 2022. He explained that in March 2023, the Alaska Bycatch Advisory Council was created with the purpose to advise the Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G) on ways to implement the recommendations from the final report of the task force. He stated that a Bycatch Utilization Subcommittee was created to report on this issue. He stated that he served as the chair of the subcommittee. MR. GABRIEL addressed the recommendations from the report, titled "Bycatch Utilization Subcommittee Report to Bycatch Advisory Council," [copy included in the committee packet]. He stated that the purpose of the subcommittee was to identify issues that would need to be addressed when considering utilization of bycatch. He defined "bycatch" as fish that are harvested in a fishery but are not sold or kept. He stated that the subcommittee had met four times, taking public testimony each time. He discussed the presentations given to the subcommittee, of which SeaShare's model was the most relevant for bycatch utilization. He explained that SeaShare is a federally permitted, prohibited species donation program. MR. GABRIEL stated that the subcommittee's focus was on paring down the information, as bycatch is present in every fishery. He stated that the focus was on the high value bycatch, such as salmon, halibut, and crab, and the subcommittee chose halibut bycatch in the Gulf of Alaska as its starting point. MR. GABRIEL, in paring down the topic, stated that the subcommittee chose the following categories as a focus: regulatory, economic, logistical, and political. He stated that the report did not produce a "revelation;" rather it created a roadmap of areas that need to be addressed in utilizing bycatch. MR. GABRIEL stated that because the fisheries are both federally and state managed, regulatory change would need to be addressed, which would include the International Pacific Halibut Commission. He moved to the issue of economic factors, stating that there would need to be a plan on how the proceeds would be utilized and how bycatch would be marketed, which would involve processors. 10:17:26 AM MR. GABRIEL warned that on the regulatory side, bycatch retention could cause a higher mortality rate to endangered species. On the economic side, he discussed how retention would affect processors who are only set up for processing targeted species, as the retention of bycatch could cause processing concerns. He noted that retaining undersized fish could create a negative market effect for that species. He pointed out that per the regulation side, subsidies may need to be implemented to facilitate utilization. MR. GABRIEL, per the harvest side, discussed the gear, deck space, and storage space issues for fishermen on the grounds. He reiterated that small fish could negatively affect marketing, as this would be seen as poor quality. He noted the struggle the seafood market is currently having, and he offered the advice that utilization requirements could be an issue. MR. GABRIEL, per the logistical side, discussed the transportation challenges, noting that SeaShare is heavily subsidized. On the political side, he offered the advice that there could be public resistance to requirements of retention and utilization before further reduction measures are implemented. He also noted that there could be concerns about incentivizing or institutionalizing bycatch. He stated that this theme was heard during the public comment period. Another common point made during the public comment period was that bycatch should be minimized before any program on utilization moves forward. He observed that because all fisheries have bycatch, there could be different strategies for each fishery. MR. GABRIEL discussed the conclusion of the report, which included that a mandatory rather than a voluntary program would need to have a full economic analysis. The analysis would address the issues discussed, along with other issues which might be identified. He stated that there was no final recommendation, as the discussion is very complicated, particularly when noting all the species that pertain to bycatch and how each one would need to be dealt with differently. 10:23:48 AM REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT expressed excitement about the advisory council. She questioned whether the subcommittee was able to investigate international strategies for bycatch. MR. GABRIEL stated that there had been some discussion on Iceland, but no specific reports were provided. CHAIR VANCE noted that the 2022 Alaska Bycatch Review Task Force's report is in the committee packet. She commented that the report is robust and expressed appreciation for the original intent of reducing wanton waste. She questioned whether the complicated nature of bycatch was the main take away for the subcommittee. MR. GABRIEL responded that this was the main takeaway, as there are many moving parts. He offered the advice that throughout the entire process, every element would need to be considered. 10:26:10 AM CHAIR VANCE referenced his participation on the task force and questioned some of the other considerations by the council. MR. GABRIEL recommended referencing the website, as it would take time to review it all now. He pointed out that the website lists recommendations and categories, showing the progress on each recommendation. He noted that the recommendations are easily understandable. He expressed gratitude that the task force's recommendations did not "just go on a shelf." CHAIR VANCE reiterated that the report is robust, and the advisory council is looking at implementation of the recommendations. 10:28:42 AM CHAIR VANCE sought to give full transparency on the intention of the proposed legislation. She discussed the desire to make fish waste beneficial to Alaskans; however, she stated that this would be complicated to do. She expressed the intention to remove the utilization parts of the resolution. She requested that members provide amendments that would encourage the commissioner of ADF&G to implement regulations on the avoidance and reduction of bycatch. She encouraged interaction with stakeholders and expressed the importance of every voice being heard. 10:30:40 AM CHAIR VANCE announced that HR 8 was held over.
Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
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HR 8 - Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HFSH 4/23/2024 10:00:00 AM |
HR 8 |
HR 8 - v.A.pdf |
HFSH 4/23/2024 10:00:00 AM |
HR 8 |
HR 8 - Supporting Document - Bycatch Utilization Subcommittee Report (04-16-24).pdf |
HFSH 4/23/2024 10:00:00 AM |
HR 8 |
CSSCR 10 - Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HFSH 4/23/2024 10:00:00 AM |
SSCR10 |
CSSCR 10 - version S.A.pdf |
HFSH 4/23/2024 10:00:00 AM |
SSCR10 |
CSSCR10 - Summary of Changes S to S.A - 4.22.24.pdf |
HFSH 4/23/2024 10:00:00 AM |
SSCR10 |
CSSCR 10 - Support Letter PSPA 3.25.24.pdf |
HFSH 4/23/2024 10:00:00 AM |
SSCR10 |
CSSCR 10 - Fiscal Note LAA 4.19.24.pdf |
HFSH 4/23/2024 10:00:00 AM |
SSCR10 |