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05/11/2024 01:30 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION

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02:46:09 PM Start
02:46:59 PM HJR29
03:07:56 PM Adjourn
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*+ HJR 29 TRANSITION FROM LEADED AVIATION FUEL TELECONFERENCED
Moved HJR 29 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
          HJR 29-TRANSITION FROM LEADED AVIATION FUEL                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:46:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN   announced  the  consideration  of   HOUSE  JOINT                                                               
RESOLUTION  NO.  29  Urging  federal   support  for  the  state's                                                               
aviation fuel transition.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:47:34 PM                                                                                                                    
JAKE  ALMEIDA, Staff,  Representative Sarah  Vance, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska,  introduced HJR 29 on  behalf of the                                                               
House Transportation Committee, read the following statement:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     House Joint Resolution 29  urges the federal government                                                                    
     to collaborate  with Alaska's  congressional delegation                                                                    
     to grant  Alaska a four-year  extension to  comply with                                                                    
     the FAA's transition away from leaded aviation fuels.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •  In 2022,  the FAA  launched  the Eliminate  Aviation                                                                    
        Gasoline Lead Emissions (or EAGLE) initiative to see                                                                    
        the elimination of leaded aviation fuel by 2030.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:48:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN joined the meeting.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:48:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ALMEIDA continued the introduction of HJR 29.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     •  While Alaska was  initially granted  extension until                                                                    
        2034, recent amendments  to the  FAA Reauthorization                                                                    
        Act  do   not  include   the  four-year   extension,                                                                    
       endangering the general aviation sector in Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     •  With  this  resolution  we  are  supporting  Senator                                                                    
        Sullivan in his request for four  more years to find                                                                    
        and FUND a path forward.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     •  Large portions of our state are  disconnected from a                                                                    
        road system and rely on air travel.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •  Many commercial  and  private  aircraft  are  single                                                                    
        piston engine powered and still require leaded fuels                                                                    
        to function properly.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     •  Lacking approved alternative  fuels and  an adequate                                                                    
        supply  chain  for  replacement  parts,  many  small                                                                    
        piston engine  aircraft  could  become  economically                                                                    
        unfeasible, with potential losses of  up to $100,000                                                                    
        per unit.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     •  If Alaska's  transition  away  from leaded  aviation                                                                    
        fuels is not managed  carefully, we run the  risk of                                                                    
        devastating  both  commercial  and   private  piston                                                                    
        engine-powered   aircraft    operations,    creating                                                                    
        significant challenges for Alaska's general aviation                                                                    
        industry.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     •  It is important to address both  the health concerns                                                                    
        of leaded  aviation  fuels  AND  safeguard  Alaska's                                                                    
        economy and  residents ability  to access  essential                                                                    
        transportation networks.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       • The legislature's support for this resolution is                                                                       
        essential  to  show  support  to  our  congressional                                                                    
        delegation in  protecting  Alaskans'  interests  and                                                                    
        preserving vital  services provided  by the  general                                                                    
        aviation sector.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:51:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WILSON asked  what the  consequence would  be if  Alaska                                                               
chooses not to comply [with the EAGLE initiative].                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. ALMEIDA replied  that concerns had been  expressed by private                                                               
and public  aviation companies that  have aircraft which  rely on                                                               
these  [leaded]  fuels.  He   said  immediate  enforcement  would                                                               
effectively ground those aircraft until  repairs are made, or new                                                               
aircraft  replaces them.  He said  it would  essentially deadlock                                                               
carriers that rely on these aircraft.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:52:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILSON  asked about enforcement of  the EAGLE initiative.                                                               
He wondered how aircraft flown  from private runways or using the                                                               
river system  to land  or frozen tundra,  who would  be enforcing                                                               
the initiative. He also referred  to HJR 29, 33-LS1612\B, page 2,                                                               
lines  14-16  and  suggested a  possible  amendment,  that  would                                                               
include  copies to  the FAA  outlining  the Alaska  legislature's                                                               
wishes.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:53:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ALMEIDA replied  that adding the specified  amendment to have                                                               
copies sent  to the current director  of the FAA would  be at the                                                               
committee's discretion.  He returned to the  enforcement question                                                               
and  explained  that  the  FAA would  be  enforcing  the  [EAGLE]                                                               
initiative. He said, if the  initiative goes into effect in 2030,                                                               
any aircraft that  is not in compliance with  the initiative will                                                               
be subject to inspection and enforcement.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:54:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS noted that leaded aviation  fuel is one of the only                                                               
fuels  that is  not manufactured  in  Alaska and  all our  leaded                                                               
aviation fuel is shipped up. He  said this would put the state in                                                               
a bind, whether or not Alaska complies.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:55:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN   noted  that  communities   of  color   are  most                                                               
egregiously impacted by lead emissions.  In most of rural Alaska,                                                               
homes are located  very near the airports. She  asserted that the                                                               
transition away from leaded fuels  was specifically to help those                                                               
communities  and those  children. She  asked why  HJR 29  doesn't                                                               
talk about  fuels that can  be used  in the transition,  like low                                                               
leaded fuels and  why doesn't it propose that we  start on a path                                                               
to  transition  to  protect  our  communities,  particularly  the                                                               
children in those communities.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TOBIN noted  HJR 29 was introduced May 6th  and asked why                                                               
it hadn't  been introduced earlier,  noting that  the legislative                                                               
session is due to end soon.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:56:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  ALMEIDA answered  the first  question,  explaining that  the                                                               
intent of  HJR 29 is not  to take a  stance or a position  on the                                                               
EAGLE  Initiative from  the FAA,  but to  acknowledge that  it is                                                               
happening and  there is a  date in  place to begin  enforcing the                                                               
initiative. HJR 29 is stating that  the state would like an extra                                                               
four years [to  comply]. He opined that Alaska  needs extra time.                                                               
HJR  acknowledges  that  Alaska  needs more  time  to  work  with                                                               
private enterprises  to prevent  or minimize  the effect  [of the                                                               
EAGLE initiative].                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ALMEIDA  in  answer  to the  second  question,  said  Alaska                                                               
received late notice  from the FAA to be on  time for 2030, after                                                               
having understood that the deadline  had been amended to 2034. He                                                               
said the  notice came from  U.S. Senator Sullivan, urging  that a                                                               
resolution from the Alaska legislature would be pivotal.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:58:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN referred  to HJR  29, page  1, lines  9 -  11. She                                                               
opined that it  would not be untoward to say  Alaska supports the                                                               
federal governments assistance in  the transition using low level                                                               
lead  fuels  and  recognizing  the   health  and  safety  of  our                                                               
citizens.  She acknowledged  HJR 29  may not  represent a  stance                                                               
[opposing the EAGLE  initiative], but she said  the transition is                                                               
happening and we do believe the  federal government has a role in                                                               
helping Alaska make that transition for all our communities.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ALMEIDA  expressed a willingness  to work with  the committee                                                               
to make that change.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:58:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN noted that  if HJR 29 makes it to  the floor of the                                                               
senate, amendments could be done there.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KAUFMAN said the operational  benefits [of leaded fuel] are                                                               
significant, and  he recalled the noticeable  damaging effects of                                                               
switching to unleaded  fuels in automobile engines.  He sought to                                                               
balance safety  concerns for affected aircraft  and environmental                                                               
effects when the transition to unleaded fuel takes place.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:00:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN opened public testimony on HJR 29.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:00:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MIKE  SHOWER, representing  self, Wasilla,  Alaska, said,                                                               
though he  is the Senator  from District  O, he is  testifying on                                                               
behalf of himself. He expressed  high interest in this resolution                                                               
and said that he is quite knowledgeable on this topic.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER  noted the  concern for  communities of  color and                                                               
said the  state is already only  using low lead gas,  there is no                                                               
leaded gas anymore. There's 100 low  lead and that is all that is                                                               
out there. That is as low  as it goes without changing the makeup                                                               
of engines  and parts, etc. It  is already very low  by standards                                                               
of emissions.  He opined that  there are not very  high emissions                                                               
from piston powered engines, and  he compared emission rates to a                                                               
car engine,  which, he said,  have slightly more  horsepower than                                                               
airplanes do.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  SHOWER opined  that if  the EAGLE  initiative transition                                                               
takes place at  the pace proposed by the FAA,  the communities of                                                               
color who rely  on piston powered aircraft,  will experience high                                                               
costs, grounded  aircraft and possibly  a suspension  of aviation                                                               
support,  which they  need for  food,  fuel, medicine,  emergency                                                               
care  and transport  between the  small communities.  He said  in                                                               
addition to the high cost, safety  is a consideration as well. He                                                               
said some of  the aircraft will not be able  to operate and there                                                               
is potential for dangerous situations.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER said  he thought 100 low lead fuel  would still be                                                               
made if  the transition  is made  because there  is a  very large                                                               
market for it, as the  largest geographical state relying heavily                                                               
on-air  transportation.  He  described his  experience  with  his                                                               
personal aircraft and  said that, though it has  been modified to                                                               
accept unleaded  fuel, he  has been  advised to  mix in  low lead                                                               
fuel to protect the engine.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER  acknowledged that  the transition is  coming, and                                                               
he said the  question is to support  the congressional delegation                                                               
to let them know Alaska needs  more time to do this, because this                                                               
is going  to significantly affect  Alaska. The state will  not be                                                               
able to  deliver supplies  and people  without an  extension; not                                                               
without prohibitive  costs, danger when flying  the aircraft, and                                                               
the inability to move people in far flung communities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:04:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN closed public testimony on HJR 29.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:04:19 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:04:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN reconvened the meeting and solicited the will of                                                                  
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:04:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILSON moved to report HJR 29, work order 33-LS1612\B,                                                                  
from committee with individual recommendations and attached                                                                     
fiscal note(s).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:05:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN found no objection and HJR 29 was reported from                                                                   
the Senate Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                                   

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR29 VerB Sponsor Statement 5.6.24.pdf HTRA 5/7/2024 1:00:00 PM
STRA 5/11/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 29
HJR 29 Ver A Fiscal Note LEG 5.7.24.pdf HTRA 5/8/2024 9:00:00 AM
STRA 5/11/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 29
HJR 29 FAQs FAA UL Fuel Development 5.9.24.pdf STRA 5/11/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 29