04/24/2024 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE
| Audio | Topic | 
|---|---|
| Start | |
| HB375 | |
| SB196 | |
| SB228 | |
| HB385 | |
| HB325 | |
| Adjourn | 
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| += | HB 325 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HJR 27 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 385 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED | ||
| += | SB 196 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | SB 228 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 375 | TELECONFERENCED | |
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                         
                         April 24, 2024                                                                                         
                           4:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jesse Sumner, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Justin Ruffridge, Vice Chair                                                                                     
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Stanley Wright                                                                                                   
Representative Ashley Carrick                                                                                                   
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 375                                                                                                              
"An Act prohibiting certain restrictions based on the energy                                                                    
source of a motor vehicle."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 375(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 196                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to drug and alcohol testing by employers."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SB 196 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 228                                                                                                             
"An Act extending the termination date of the Board of Massage                                                                  
Therapists; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 385                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to occupational licensing fees."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 385(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 325                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to business license fees; and providing for an                                                                 
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 325(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 27                                                                                                   
Supporting trade policies for the  United States that hold China,                                                               
Russia,  and other  countries accountable,  reward leadership  in                                                               
clean   production  standards,   reward  superior   environmental                                                               
performance,  support  economic   development,  and  support  the                                                               
rebuilding of supply chains in the United States.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 375                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ENERGY SOURCES OF MOTOR VEHICLES                                                                                   
SPONSOR(s): TRANSPORTATION                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
02/20/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/20/24       (H)       L&C                                                                                                    
04/17/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/17/24       (H)       <Bill Hearing Rescheduled to 04/22/24>                                                                 
04/22/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/22/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/22/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/24/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 196                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EMPLOYER DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/18/24       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/18/24       (S)       L&C                                                                                                    
03/08/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/08/24       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/08/24       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/20/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/20/24       (S)       Moved SB 196 Out of Committee                                                                          
03/20/24       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/22/24       (S)       L&C RPT 4DP 1NR                                                                                        
03/22/24       (S)       DP: BJORKMAN, BISHOP, GRAY-JACKSON,                                                                    
                         MERRICK                                                                                                
03/22/24       (S)       NR: DUNBAR                                                                                             
04/10/24       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
04/10/24       (S)       VERSION: SB 196                                                                                        
04/11/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/11/24       (H)       L&C                                                                                                    
04/15/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/15/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/15/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/24/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 228                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EXTEND BOARD OF MASSAGE THERAPISTS                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/12/24       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/12/24       (S)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
02/26/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/26/24       (S)       Moved SB 228 Out of Committee                                                                          
02/26/24       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
02/28/24       (S)       L&C RPT 5DP                                                                                            
02/28/24       (S)       DP: BJORKMAN, MERRICK, GRAY-JACKSON,                                                                   
                         BISHOP, DUNBAR                                                                                         
04/03/24       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
04/03/24       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/03/24       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
04/04/24       (S)       FIN RPT 4DP 1NR                                                                                        
04/04/24       (S)       DP: OLSON, KIEHL, MERRICK, BISHOP                                                                      
04/04/24       (S)       NR: STEDMAN                                                                                            
04/04/24       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
04/04/24       (S)       Moved SB 228 Out of Committee                                                                          
04/04/24       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
04/11/24       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
04/11/24       (S)       VERSION: SB 228                                                                                        
04/12/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/12/24       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
04/19/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/19/24       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/24/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 385                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING FEES                                                                                        
SPONSOR(s): EASTMAN                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/20/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/20/24       (H)       L&C                                                                                                    
02/26/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/26/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/26/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
02/28/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/28/24       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/01/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/01/24       (H)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
03/29/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/29/24       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/05/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/05/24       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/24/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 325                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: BUSINESS LICENSE FEES                                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): MINA                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
02/14/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/14/24       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
04/03/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/03/24       (H)       <Bill Hearing Rescheduled to 04/05/24>                                                                 
04/05/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/05/24       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/17/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/17/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/17/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/24/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCABE                                                                                                     
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on Amendment 1 to HB 375, on                                                                   
behalf of the House Transportation Standing Committee, sponsor                                                                  
by request, chaired by Representative McCabe.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JESSE BJORKMAN                                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, presented SB 228.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ANNETTA ATWELL, Chair                                                                                                           
Board of Massage Therapists                                                                                                     
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony during the hearing                                                                
on HB 228.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
KRIS CURTIS, Legislative Auditor                                                                                                
Legislative Audit Division                                                                                                      
Legislative Agencies and Offices                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing on SB
228.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN ROBB, Director                                                                                                           
Division of Corporations, Business, and Professional Licensing                                                                  
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions  during the hearing on SB
228.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVID EASTMAN                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   As  prime sponsor,  gave an  explanation of                                                             
Amendment 2 to HB 385.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JASMIN SMITH, Business Owner                                                                                                    
Umoja Coworking Space                                                                                                           
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 325.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:32:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JESSE SUMNER  called the House Labor  and Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting to  order at  4:32 p.m.  Representatives Prax,                                                               
Carrick, Fields,  and Sumner were  present at the call  to order.                                                               
Representatives  Ruffridge, Saddler,  and Wright  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
            HB 375-ENERGY SOURCES OF MOTOR VEHICLES                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:33:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  375,  "An Act  prohibiting certain  restrictions                                                               
based on the energy source of a motor vehicle."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:34:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 4:34 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER  moved to adopt Amendment  1 to HB 375,  labeled 33-                                                               
LS1381\A.1, C. Radford, 4/24/24, which read:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 11, following "hydrogen,":                                                                                    
          Insert "nuclear power,"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER  announced that there being  no objection, Amendment                                                               
1 was adopted.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:35:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCABE, Alaska  State Legislature, on behalf                                                               
of  the  House  Transportation  Standing  Committee,  sponsor  by                                                               
request, chaired by Representative McCabe,  stated that he had no                                                               
objection  to Amendment  1,  adding  that it  would  make HB  375                                                               
stronger.    He  reminded  the  committee  that  the  bill  would                                                               
emphasize  consumer   choice  in  vehicles  and   prohibit  local                                                               
governments and municipalities from limiting those choices.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:36:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SUMNER  opened   public  testimony  on  HB   375.    After                                                               
ascertaining  that no  one wished  to testify,  he closed  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:36:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE moved to report  HB 375, as amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS objected and  opined that restricting local                                                               
control  is generally  a bad  idea.   Furthermore, he  shared his                                                               
belief that vehicle regulation would  be legitimate public policy                                                               
should  a  locality desire  to  do  so,  as the  negative  health                                                               
impacts of diesel,  gasoline, and fuel have  been well documented                                                               
in the environmental health literature.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:38:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 4:38 pm.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:39:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives  Prax, Ruffridge,                                                               
Saddler, Wright, and  Sumner voted in favor of  reporting HB 375,                                                               
as  amended,  out  of  committee.    Representatives  Fields  and                                                               
Carrick voted against it.   Therefore, CSHB 375(L&C) was reported                                                               
out of the House Labor and  Commerce Standing Committee by a vote                                                               
of 5-2.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
            SB 196-EMPLOYER DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:39:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
SENATE  BILL  NO. 196,  "An  Act  relating  to drug  and  alcohol                                                               
testing by employers."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:40:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE moved to report  SB 196 out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There being no objection,  SB 196 was reported  from the                                                               
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           SB 228-EXTEND BOARD OF MASSAGE THERAPISTS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:40:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
SENATE BILL  NO. 228, "An  Act extending the termination  date of                                                               
the Board of  Massage Therapists; and providing  for an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:40:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  JESSE  BJORKMAN,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  as  prime                                                               
sponsor, presented the sponsor statement  for SB 228 [included in                                                               
committee packet],  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill 228  proposes to extend the  sunset date of                                                                    
     the Board  of Massage Therapists  by six years.  In the                                                                    
     fall  of  2023,  our   Division  of  Legislative  Audit                                                                    
     completed a sunset audit of the Board.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     In  this audit,  it  was determined  that overall,  the                                                                    
     Board  has   operated  in  the  public's   interest  by                                                                    
     conducting its meetings in an  effective manner as well                                                                    
     as actively  amending regulations to  address statutory                                                                    
     changes,   improving   the   licensing   process,   and                                                                    
     enhancing public safety.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     As you make an in-depth  review the audit, you will see                                                                    
     our auditor  made note of  four issues which  should be                                                                    
     addressed by the  Board and the Department  as it moves                                                                    
     forward.  First,  the   Department  staff  should  help                                                                    
     develop standards  to ensure license approvals  are not                                                                    
     based  on  outdated   documentation;  the  Commissioner                                                                    
     should  work to  improve recruitment  and retention  of                                                                    
     investigators as well as DCBPL  licensing staff and the                                                                    
     Board   should   give   consideration   to   increasing                                                                    
     licensing fees.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Currently, the Board  will sunset on June  30, 2024. To                                                                    
     allow  the  Board to  continue  working  in the  public                                                                    
     interest,  SB  228  follows  the  recommended  six-year                                                                    
     extension to June 30, 2030.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     I urge your support of this legislation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:43:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNETTA  ATWELL, Chair,  Board  of  Massage Therapists,  provided                                                               
additional context as  to the Board of  Massage Therapists' ("the                                                               
board") pursuit  of extension,  per SB 228.   She  explained that                                                               
three of  the four  areas of concern  identified by  Kris Curtis,                                                               
legislative  auditor,   would  be   borne  by  the   Division  of                                                               
Corporations, Business  and Professional licensing (DCBPL).   The                                                               
fourth item,  which suggests  raising the  licensing fee  to keep                                                               
the board from  incurring additional debt, is a  concern that the                                                               
board shares.   She said the  board would work with  the state to                                                               
establish  fees  that  are justified  for  correct  spending  and                                                               
assured the  committee that the  increase would occur at  the end                                                               
of the  year.  She  added that the  board would continue  to meet                                                               
quarterly and  thanked the  legislature for  working with  her as                                                               
she  transitioned into  her  new role  as chair.    She said  the                                                               
following  items  would  help her  efficiently  lead  the  board:                                                               
identifying  key  staff  members   to  streamline  questions  and                                                               
pursuing  communication with  other committees.   She  noted that                                                               
statutes  and   regulations  concerning  the  board's   scope  of                                                               
practice would be addressed in the June quarterly meeting.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:47:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  said he would  be comfortable  with voting                                                               
to advance  the executive  order (EO) now,  given the  breadth of                                                               
discussion and testimony on the board.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SUMNER said  he would  prefer  to give  the committee  the                                                               
opportunity to amend the bill first.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:48:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  asked whether  Ms. Curtis  had anything                                                               
to add with regard to the audit.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
KRIS  CURTIS, Legislative  Auditor,  Legislative Audit  Division,                                                               
Legislative  Agencies  and  Offices,  noted  that  the  following                                                               
recommendations  were repeatedly  seen across  occupational board                                                               
audits this  year: recommending that  the commissioner  work with                                                               
policy makers to improve  recruitment and retention; recommending                                                               
an increase in  fees; recommending that documents  older than six                                                               
months be resubmitted.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  asked  what   the  lack  of  funds  is                                                               
attributable to.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS directed  attention to  Exhibit 3  on page  9 of  the                                                               
board's sunset  audit [included in the  committee packet], noting                                                               
that the  board was  awarded "quite  a bit"  of general  funds to                                                               
help  mitigate the  financial impact  of  the COVID-19  Pandemic,                                                               
which caused many  boards to delay a fee increase.   In addition,                                                               
a request  by the  Department of  Commerce, Community  & Economic                                                               
Development  (DCCED)   to  shift  the  funding   source  for  all                                                               
investigation costs  to the general  fund (GF) was denied  by the                                                               
legislature last  year.  As  a result, the December  2023 renewal                                                               
cycle  did not  include a  fee increase,  as management  believed                                                               
that investigative costs  would have been borne by the  GF and as                                                               
such, did not have time to re-do their funding analysis.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:51:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK questioned  whether staff  challenges and                                                               
investigations  are  specific  to   this  board  or  whether  the                                                               
legislature could  expect to see  them in other audits  for board                                                               
extensions going forward.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS said  it's  a typical  challenge  that's become  more                                                               
frequent  in recent  years.   She  noted that  generally, when  a                                                               
board has a general administrator, there is lower turnover.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK asked  whether the  general administrator                                                               
works for DCBPL or the board.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS clarified that [the  Board of Massage Therapists] does                                                               
not  a  general  administrator;   however,  some  boards  have  a                                                               
dedicated executive  administrator in statute, which  is a higher                                                               
paid position than typical occupational licensing staff.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:53:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked Ms. Robb for feedback on the audit.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN ROBB,  Director, Division  of Corporations,  Business, and                                                               
Professional   Licensing   (DCBPL),   Department   of   Commerce,                                                               
Community &  Economic Development (DCCED), acknowledged  that the                                                               
division  faced severe  staffing challenges  during the  pandemic                                                               
with  a 35  percent vacancy  rate on  the professional  licensing                                                               
team.    She  reported  that  staffing  shortages  have  improved                                                               
resulting in  better training and  oversight for new staff.   She                                                               
anticipated that  the change  in fees would  be addressed  in the                                                               
board's next renewal.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  asked  whether  a  dedicated  administrator                                                               
would be warranted for the board.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBB said  the board does not require that  level of support.                                                               
She explained that  staffing is in a good place,  adding that the                                                               
division  has  worked  to reclassify  some  positions  to  create                                                               
higher  levels   of  oversight   for  boards   without  executive                                                               
administrators.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked whether the committee  should schedule                                                               
a time to hear from the board.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBB said that would be a policy call.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:58:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that SB 228 would be held over.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
               HB 385-OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING FEES                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:58:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 385, "An  Act relating to  occupational licensing                                                               
fees."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:59:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER  moved to adopt Amendment  2 to HB 385,  labeled 33-                                                               
LS1163\A.1, Gunther, 3/27/24, which read:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 11 - 12:                                                                                                     
          Delete "gross income the licensee earned as a                                                                         
     result of holding the license"                                                                                             
          Insert    "economic    hardship    the    licensee                                                                    
     experienced"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 12 - 18:                                                                                                     
          Delete "The department shall collect from a                                                                           
     licensee  who submits  proof  of  the licensee's  gross                                                                    
     income under this subsection the lesser of                                                                                 
               (1)  the total fees established under (c)                                                                        
     and (f) - (k) of  this section required to be collected                                                                    
     from the licensee for the current calendar year; or                                                                        
               (2)  20 percent of the gross income the                                                                          
     licensee earned as  a result of holding  the license in                                                                    
     the previous calendar year"                                                                                                
          Insert "If a licensee submits proof of economic                                                                       
     hardship,  the   department  shall  collect   from  the                                                                    
     licensee only 50 percent of  the total fees established                                                                    
     under (c) and (f) - (k)  of this section required to be                                                                    
     collected  from the  licensee in  the current  calendar                                                                    
     year"                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:59:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVID EASTMAN, Alaska  State Legislature, as prime                                                               
sponsor, said  the purpose  of the underlying  bill is  to reduce                                                               
licensing  fees  to  a  reasonable amount.    He  explained  that                                                               
Amendment 2  would incorporate items  from HB 314 into  the bill,                                                               
thereby  encouraging the  department to  annually assess  whether                                                               
the  licensing  fee  is  causing  a decrease  in  the  number  of                                                               
licensees in a particular occupation.   In addition, the proposed                                                               
amendment would  encourage military members and  their spouses to                                                               
apply  for  licenses  by  expanding  eligibility  for  a  reduced                                                               
licensing fee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:01:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives Wright  and Sumner                                                               
voted in favor of Amendment  2.  Representatives Prax, Ruffridge,                                                               
Saddler,  Carrick,  and  Fields  voted against  it.    Therefore,                                                               
Amendment 2 failed by a vote of 2-5. 2-5.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:02:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE moved to report  HB 385 out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There being no objection,  HB 385 was reported out of the                                                               
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                  HB 325-BUSINESS LICENSE FEES                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:03:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 325, "An  Act relating to business  license fees;                                                               
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:03:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER opened public testimony on HB 325.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:03:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASMIN SMITH,  Business Owner,  Umoja Coworking  Space, testified                                                               
in  support of  HB  325.   She  stated  her  support for  waiving                                                               
[business  license  fees] for  people  on  public assistance  and                                                               
urged the  committee to  consider ways  to alleviate  barriers to                                                               
first time business owners.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT  expressed  admiration for  the  work  Ms.                                                               
Smith does in her community.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:07:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER closed public testimony on HB 325.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:07:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE moved to report  HB 325 out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:07:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK objected for  purposes of discussion.  She                                                               
acknowledged that the cost of  business licenses increased during                                                               
the pandemic  and opined that  the bill would present  a valuable                                                               
option for many  individuals.  She reiterated  her strong support                                                               
for HB 325 and removed her objection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:08:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that there  being no further objection, HB
325 was adopted.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:08:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Labor and  Commerce Standing Committee  meeting was  adjourned at                                                               
5:08 p.m.