Legislature(2019 - 2020)BARNES 124
03/29/2019 01:00 PM House RESOURCES
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| HB35 | |
| HJR10 | |
| HB16 | |
| Adjourn |
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| += | HB 16 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HJR 10 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 35 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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HJR 10-SUPPORTING ROAD BELT ELECTRICAL LINE
1:09:37 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR announced that the next order of business would be
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 10, Supporting development of the
road belt electrical transmission line; and urging members of
the Alaska delegation in Congress to pursue the development of
this high- voltage electrical line in the interior of the state.
[Before the committee was the committee substitute (CS) for HJR
10(ENE), reported out of the House Special Committee on Energy
on 3/15/19.]
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO, sponsor of HJR 10, paraphrased from the
following written sponsor statement [original punctuation
provided]:
The Development of the road belt electrical inter-tie
transmission line would create a high-voltage
electrical line running from Sutton to Glennallen,
where a subtransmission line would extend to Gakona
and on to Tok and north through the upper Tanana
region to Delta Junction, and the final leg of the
project would run from near Delta Junction, just south
of Fort Greely, back to Gakona. This resolution
supports infrastructure development for energy and
national security, economic development, and natural
resource development in the State of Alaska. The Trans
Alaska Pipeline (TAPS) would benefit by using the low-
cost energy provided by the transmission line in the
operation of the pipeline and protection of its off-
grid pump stations. A high-voltage electrical line
would complete an electrical transmission bus loop and
establish a second path for power transmission from
Anchorage to Fairbanks which is needed during
disasters such as earthquakes. With the infrastructure
development and the increase in population at Eielson
Air Force Base, Fort Greeley and Clear Air Force
Station, the need for power in the region will
increase significantly. This resolution urges Congress
to advocate for the security of the nation's
northernmost military and oil infrastructure by
pursuing the development of the Road Belt Inter-tie.
This is a project long overdue for Alaska and I ask
for your support for this resolution.
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO continued, noting Alaska is becoming a
national security stronghold for the U.S. as evidenced by an
increased military presence in the state. He said he seeks to
ensure a supply of power to military and other facilities in the
Interior of Alaska.
1:14:40 PM
JASON HOKE, President, Board of Directors, Copper Valley
Development Association (CVDA), Alaska Regional Development
Organizations, Division of Economic Development, Department of
Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED), and Program
Director, Ahtna Inter-Tribal Resource Commission, directed
attention to a PowerPoint presentation entitled, "Road Belt
Inter-Tie." Mr. Hoke provided a short history of the Rail Belt
Inter-Tie (RBIT), beginning in the late 1980s (slide 2). Phase
1 of the project would transmit 138-245 kilovolts (kV) of power
from Sutton to Glennallen to Delta. Phase 2 would transmit
power via a subtransmission line 227 miles from Gakona to Tok to
Delta. Mr. Hoke noted the lines could utilize existing rights
of way as there are already distribution powerlines running in
the area with the exception of 100 miles. He explained
completion of a "bus loop" of transmission lines around the road
system of Interior Alaska is necessary to create redundancy in
the event of an earthquake, an avalanche, or other power
emergency. The project would electrify an area the size of
Montana (slide 3). Slide 4 illustrated two maps of the current
concept, one of which showed the project and connections to
renewable energy resources and potential natural resource
development opportunities. A smaller map showed the current
Railbelt transmission line and phase 1 and phase 2 of the
proposed project. Mr. Hoke stated the project has been studied
and vetted; he provided a list of local utilities, local
governments, state agencies, and Tribal organizations that are
in strong support of the project (slide 5).
1:19:45 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked for a description of the sources of
current power generation, and levels of production, within the
affected area.
MR. HOKE explained the existing power generation sources of
power beyond Sutton are primarily diesel-generated microgrids.
Slide 6 listed additional support and resolutions in support of
the project; he described how contacts were made with local
communities. Slide 7 listed how current costs of power inhibit
development; for example, electrical microgrids are expensive
and consume approximately four million gallons of diesel fuel
per year. Further, the Power Cost Equalization (PCE) program
does not cover commercial or state and federal facilities; the
University of Alaska Fairbanks power plant consumes 6,000
gallons of diesel fuel per hour.
MR. HOKE turned to the topic of economic and natural resource
development; he said cheaper electrical power expands business
retention and expansion and he provided several examples of
proposed manufacturing, mining, agricultural, and tourism
opportunities currently prohibited by the cost of electricity
(slide 8). Because energy is national security, military
benefits include power to Alaska military bases and stations,
redundancy and reliable energy, reduced costs, support for
growth in defense installations, and compliance with the
military guideline of 25 percent renewable power (slide 9). Mr.
Hoke opined energy, transportation, and communication are
necessary for infrastructure and Alaska's road system supplies
transportation and communication, however, lower cost energy is
lacking: new industry and economic development mean new revenue
for the state; the legislature is the Interior's governing body;
residents must choose between buying groceries and paying their
electric bill; residents must choose between living at home or
moving to cities (slide 10). To advance the project, $2 million
is needed from the legislature for a reconnaissance engineer's
study/report, after which the project would be submitted to
state and federal agencies for funding (slide 11).
1:32:28 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN questioned whether the project would be
completely funded with federal funds and if the U.S. Department
of Defense is "on board with this conceptually ...."
MR. HOKE stated the majority of funding may come from the
federal government; he referred to a letter to U.S. Senator Dan
Sullivan included in the committee packet. In addition, there
is interest from the Rural Utilities Service, Rural Development,
U.S. Department of Agriculture, the U.S. Department of Energy,
and the U.S. Department of Commerce.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN surmised Sutton is the starting point
because the existing transmission lines end there.
MR. HOKE affirmed the transmission line from Matanuska Electric
Association, Inc. (MEA) ends in Sutton. In response to
Representative Rauscher, he said the reconnaissance engineer's
study/report would define the location of the start of the
transmission line.
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ questioned whether the next step is to
obtain funding for the project subsequent to passage of HJR 10.
MR. HOKE advised he is working to obtain $2 million in state or
federal funding for the reconnaissance engineer's study/report;
in fact, HJR 10 would remind Alaska's congressional delegation
and federal agencies that most of the Lower 48 has benefitted
from years of federal funding for infrastructure prior to 1959.
In further response to Representative Spohnholz, he said he has
met with Alaska's congressional delegation.
1:39:16 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ asked whether there is any opposition
to the project from affected communities.
MR. HOKE acknowledged there has been some opposition to details
of the project; for example, residents of Sutton would prefer
the underground installation of transmission lines. He opined
these are mitigating issues and not opposition to the project.
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER confirmed Sutton residents want the
transmission line installed underground following the existing
line; he stated his support for HJR 10.
1:43:16 PM
JOHN DUHAMEL, Chief Executive Officer, Copper Valley Electric
Association, provided a PowerPoint presentation entitled, "Road
Belt Intertie (RBIT) Concept." He said the Road Belt Intertie
(RBIT) would benefit the power utilities and the isolated power
grids along the Richardson Highway. Mr. Duhamel explained
moving electricity includes distribution power and transmission
power. Distribution power are lower voltages moved to
residential, commercial, and industrial customers and managed by
a power utility. Transmission and sub-transmission power are
high voltages moved between communities and managed by utilities
or the state. The proposed project is a transmission and sub-
transmission project that would be managed by the state. He
stressed transmission, similar to airports and roads, is
infrastructure (slide 2).
MR. DUHAMEL continued to slide 3 - which was an illustration of
an electric power system overview - and described expenses
associated with high voltage transmission. Slide 4 listed the
power principles of a grid, which is a system of wires,
structures and substations: a bigger grid is more resilient and
can absorb interruptions caused by a falling tree or
fluctuations from renewable energy sources such as wind and
solar; a grid set in a loop can move power in any direction; a
bigger grid is economical for all users. Mr. Duhamel advised
RBIT is not a new concept and was studied by the Alaska Energy
Policy Task Force in 2003 (slide 5). Slide 6 was a map of the
region that would benefit from RBIT. Currently, the region is
supplied by isolated grids, or there is no power; most available
power is produced by fossil fuel.
1:50:46 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked whether any of the existing isolated
grids produce excess power.
MR. DUHAMEL said some produce surplus power, but it is not
cheap; for example, Copper Valley Electric Association (CVEA)
has additional capacity generated by diesel, and a slight
overage of hydropower in the summer. If RBIT were built, CVEA
could provide hydropower to more customers and could also
connect with excess power generated by natural gas.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN questioned whether Chickaloon Wind, Five
Mile Hydro, Chitina Wind, and Gulkana Pellet Mill were currently
producing power.
MR. DUHAMEL expressed his understanding they are isolated grids
that are producing power. He then summarized RBIT key points
from the power utility point of view (slide 7): a larger grid
is better for all; capacity available to more customers; connect
isolated grids; improved reliability; allow more renewable
energy and other sources of energy; provide more choice for
customers. Mr. Duhamel stated the power utility industry
supports HJR 10 for the following reasons: gives credibility to
RBIT; informs Alaska's congressional delegation and the federal
government; allows more renewable opportunity; supports a
request for federal funds; revitalizes RBIT; seeks federal
infrastructure funds. He concluded there is renewed interest in
RBIT because federal money for infrastructure may become
available.
1:56:39 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked whether transmission lines can be
buried.
MR. DUHAMEL advised there are many methods that would be
studied; however, in Alaska, power utilities prefer above ground
lines because of permafrost and winter maintenance. The
technology to bury transmission lines is available and has been
used in the Lower 48.
CO-CHAIR TARR referred to forthcoming changes to the existing
Railbelt grid and asked whether RBIT and the Railbelt would be
integrated into "a statewide plan" or whether the grid would
thereby become too big to maximize efficiencies.
MR. DUHAMEL restated a bigger grid is better; however, it is
necessary to have an entity managing the power to obtain the
lowest cost and he gave an example.
CO-CHAIR TARR asked if there are geographic limitations to
transmitting power.
MR. DUHAMEL acknowledged a very large grid has minimal line
loss. Further, the volume of kilowatt hour use is more
important than the number of customers to affect economy of
scale.
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ asked for clarification of the
project's connection to the Railbelt system.
MR. DUHAMEL further explained the Railbelt loop would be from
Delta to Fairbanks to Palmer to Sutton; the RBIT loop would
continue from Sutton back to Delta.
2:06:29 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR opened public testimony on HJR 10.
2:06:37 PM
CRYSTAL ENKVIST, Executive Director, Alaska Power Association
(APA), informed the committee APA is the statewide electric
utility trade association. She expressed APA's strong support
for an electric transmission infrastructure. The transmission
line project proposed by the Copper Valley Electric Association
and others would connect to the Railbelt transmission grid and
would increase Alaska's electric system reliability, allow for
the integration of sources of renewable energy, provide an
alternate route for power, and create economic opportunities in
the greater Copper Valley region. Ms. Enkvist said APA supports
RBIT and analysis of transmission infrastructure options.
2:08:33 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR, after ascertaining no one further wished to
testify, closed public testimony.
HJR 10 was held over.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 35 Informational Document BOF-BOG History and Process 03.06.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/7/2019 10:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Suporting Document SEAFA 03.02.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/7/2019 10:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Document UFA 03.06.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/7/2019 10:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Emails(18 Combined) 03.25.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB35 Supporting Letter Wallesz 03.25.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter APHA 03.21.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter SEAS 03.22.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter NPFA 03.25.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter KSA 03.26.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter USAG 03.07.19.pdf |
HRES 3/27/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter RHAK 03.11.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/12/2019 11:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter ABSC 03.08.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/12/2019 11:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Informational Document-ADF&G BOF Ethics Process Overview and Recusals 3.6.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/12/2019 11:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 ver U 03.13.19.pdf |
HRES 3/27/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Explanation of Changes ver A to U 03.13.19.pdf |
HRES 3/27/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Fiscal Note-DAS-03.15.19.pdf |
HRES 3/27/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Sponsor Statement 03.05.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter CDFU 03.28.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Document - UFA Response to Opposition 3.28.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - Suzy Crosby Testimony Slides.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Letter of Support - Denise Statz.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - ADEC Raw Milk.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - Existing Alaska AAC.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - Herdshare Agreement Sample.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - NCSL Milk Laws.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - Tarr memo re Herdshare Property Rights.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Fiscal Note DEC 3.15.19.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Fiscal Note DHSS 3.15.19.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Version U Sectional 3.20.19.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Version U 3.14.19.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Version U Sponsor Statement 3.20.19.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB16 Supporting Document - Emails in Support 3.28.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Tanana Chiefs Conference.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Northway Traditional Council.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Map 2 .pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Golden Valley Electrical Association .pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Copper Valley Electrical Association Resolution.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Copper Valley Devlopment Association.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Copper Valley Chamber of Commerce.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Chitina Electric Inc Resolution.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Chickaloon Village Tradition Council.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Alaska Power Telephone Company .pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Ahtna Inc..pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Project Description.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Map 1.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Resolution Version M.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Article APM.docx.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Alaska Federation of Natives.docx.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Alaska Power Association .pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Version U.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Fiscal Note.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Document Support List.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Presentation Jason Hoke RBIT.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR10 Supporting Document - 2019 Support Exploration of Road Belt Electrical Line 3.28.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting doc Alaska Interie Project Presentation Duhamel.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting doc Alaska Intertie Project Presentation Duhamel.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HB16 Supporting Document - Emails in Support Set Two 3.29.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 35 Supporting Emails (21 Combined) 03.29.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |