Legislature(2025 - 2026)DAVIS 106

02/05/2025 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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08:02:25 AM Start
08:03:22 AM HJR5
08:30:03 AM Adjourn
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*+ HJR 5 SECURE RURAL SCHOOLS PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
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              HJR  5-SECURE RURAL SCHOOLS PROGRAM                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:03:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  JOINT RESOLUTION  NO.  5,  "Urging the  United  States                                                               
Congress and the President of  the United States to reinstate the                                                               
Secure  Rural Schools  and  Community  Self-Determination Act  of                                                               
2000 and make the funding mechanism in the Act permanent."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:04:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JEREMY  BYNUM, Alaska State Legislature,  As prime                                                               
sponsor,  introduced HJR  5 to  the committee.  He said  that the                                                               
Secure Rural  Schools Act  of 2000 (SRS)  was something  that his                                                               
local government  depended upon and emphasized  the importance of                                                               
SRS funding to rural school districts in Alaska.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:05:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TREVOR  SHAW, Staff,  Representative Jeremy  Bynum, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  on behalf  of  Representative  Jeremy Bynum,  prime                                                               
sponsor, presented  HJR 5 to the  committee. He began on  slide 2                                                               
of  the  PowerPoint  presentation  for HJR  5  [included  in  the                                                               
committee packet],  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          Urging   the  United   States  Congress   and  the                                                                    
     President of the United States  to reinstate the Secure                                                                    
     Rural Schools  and Community Self-Determination  Act of                                                                    
     2000  and  make  the  funding   mechanism  in  the  Act                                                                    
     permanent.                                                                                                                 
          The  Secure  Rural  Schools  and  Community  Self-                                                                    
     Determination Act  of 2000 ("SRS  Act") was  enacted by                                                                    
     the U.S.  Congress to  provide financial  assistance to                                                                    
     rural  counties and  school districts  impacted by  the                                                                    
     sharp  reduction  of  revenue   from  timber  sales  on                                                                    
     federal lands and National Forests.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:06:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAW continued to slide 3, which read as follows [original                                                                  
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Historically,  a portion  of Forest  Service funds                                                                    
     generated   through  multi-use   activities,  such   as                                                                    
     grazing,  timber production,  and special  use permits,                                                                    
     were distributed to eligible  counties to help maintain                                                                    
     local roads and schools.  However, with the significant                                                                    
     decline of the timber  industry in the 1990s, lawmakers                                                                    
     sought  to  provide  relief to  local  communities  and                                                                    
     economies through an alternative funding mechanism.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     In Fiscal Year 2023,  forest counties across the United                                                                    
     States received  $252.6 million  in payments  under the                                                                    
     SRS  Act, including  $10.9 million  for communities  in                                                                    
     the State of Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:07:00 AM SLIDE 4                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAW continued to slide 4, which read as follows [original                                                                  
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          FY2023 SRS Act Payments in Alaska                                                                                     
     .notdef Anchorage: $92,404.67                                                                                              
     .notdef Haines: $272,886.54                                                                                                
     .notdef Juneau: $629,713.94                                                                                                
     .notdef Kenai: $604,468.39                                                                                                 
     .notdef Ketchikan:                                                                                                         
     $1,194,087.61                                                                                                              
     .notdef Mat-Su: $22,365.14                                                                                                 
     .notdef Petersburg: $764,911.32                                                                                            
     .notdef Sitka: $606,023.02                                                                                                 
     .notdef Skagway: $37,927.48                                                                                                
     .notdef Wrangell: $888,492.07                                                                                              
     .notdef Yakutat: $595,621.47                                                                                               
     .notdef Unorganized: $5,229,332.69 (Chugach &   Tongass                                                                    
     National Forests)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:07:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAW continued to slide 5, which read as follows [original                                                                  
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          In the Ketchikan Gateway  Borough, SRS payments go                                                                    
     to the Local Education  Fund, which is primarily funded                                                                    
     through property taxes   the  mill rate % equivalent of                                                                    
     the SRS  payment is  14%, or 10%  of their  total local                                                                    
     contribution to schools.                                                                                                   
     .notdef In the City & Borough of Wrangell, SRS payments                                                                    
     accounted   for  approximately   55%  of   their  local                                                                    
     contribution to the school district.                                                                                       
     .notdef In the Petersburg Borough, SRS payments were equal                                                                 
     to   approximately   38%   of  their   school   funding                                                                    
     contribution.                                                                                                              
     .notdef In the City & Borough of Yakutat, SRS payments were                                                                
     roughly   equal   to   the  total   amount   in   local                                                                    
     contribution to their school district in FY23.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:08:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAW continued to slide 6, which displayed a bar graph that                                                                 
compared the SRS funding differences in various Southeast Alaska                                                                
communities, along with its dollar impact per student.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:09:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAW continued to slide 7, which read as follows [original                                                                  
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          SRS   Act   funding   was  reauthorized   in   the                                                                    
     Infrastructure   Investment   and  Jobs   Act   through                                                                    
     September 30, 2023.                                                                                                        
     .notdef The Secure Rural Schools Reauthorization Act of 2023                                                               
     (S.2581) was  introduced to extend the  SRS Act funding                                                                    
     mechanism  through  2026.  This bill  passed  the  U.S.                                                                    
     Senate by  unanimous consent. However, it  died without                                                                    
     being heard  by the House  upon the adjournment  of the                                                                    
     118th                                                                                                                      
     Congress.                                                                                                                  
     .notdef The last SRS payments under   the  most  recent                                                                    
     reauthorization  were distributed  to  states in  April                                                                    
     2024.                                                                                                                      
     .notdef Without Congressional action, there will be  no                                                                    
     further payments  to communities under  SRS. Currently,                                                                    
     no  reauthorizing legislation  has  been introduced  in                                                                    
     the 119th Congress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:10:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAW  continued to slide  8, which read as  follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          House  Joint Resolution  No.  5  urges the  United                                                                    
     States Congress and President  to reinstate this source                                                                    
     of critical revenue for  Alaska forest communities, and                                                                    
     to go one step further  by creating a permanent funding                                                                    
     mechanism according to the existing SRS Act formula.                                                                       
     Removing    the   uncertainty    of   these    stop-gap                                                                    
     reauthorizations    would    provide   stability    and                                                                    
     predictability  to  these affected  communities  across                                                                    
     the  nation,  especially  the small  rural  communities                                                                    
     that are disproportionally impacted  by these lapses in                                                                    
     funding.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:11:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAW  concluded the  presentation on slide  9 and  offered to                                                               
answer any committee questions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:11:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ELAM asked  if SRS funding was in  lieu of funding                                                               
that would have been generated by a local timber industry.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:11:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE BYNUM  said that the federal  funding was generally                                                               
made up of the funds that would have come from timber harvest.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:13:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHWANKE asked  if  the SRS  was  similar to  the                                                               
Payment in  Lieu of  Taxes program (PILT)  that rural  schools in                                                               
her own  district are  subject to. She  commented that  she would                                                               
like to see the Tongass National Foret reopened for logging.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE  BYNUM  replied  that  he would  have  to  do  more                                                               
research on PILT to properly compare the two programs.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:16:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHAW  clarified  to  the committee  that  the  Secure  Rural                                                               
Schools  formula was  originally created  to offset  the loss  of                                                               
timber  income  and  provide  relief  to  communities  that  were                                                               
affected by their local timber industries leaving.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:17:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE UNDERWOOD  asked if  the Secure Rural  Schools act                                                               
would have  to be  reversed if the  Tongass National  Forest were                                                               
allowed to be logged again.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAW echoed Representative Underwood's  remarks and said that                                                               
Alaskans would "love to use" their natural resources.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:18:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EISCHEID   asked  how  school   districts  around                                                               
Southeast Alaska  would be impacted  by the Secure  Rural Schools                                                               
Act not being reauthorized.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE BYNUM  explained that the  impact of a loss  of SRS                                                               
funding that a community might  experience is directly correlated                                                               
to the size of a community.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:21:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EISCHEID   emphasized   Representative   Bynum's                                                               
remarks that the  impact of reduced or no SRS  funding would have                                                               
tremendous impacts  on communities  around the United  States and                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:22:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  UNDERWOOD asked  Representative Bynum  if he  has                                                               
had  any  conversations  with Alaska's  congressional  delegation                                                               
regarding HJR 5.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE BYNUM replied  that his office has  been in contact                                                               
with Alaska's  congressional delegation and said  that he doesn't                                                               
want to  make any remarks on  their behalf while he  awaits their                                                               
responses.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:22:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT asked  if there  have  historically been  any                                                               
gaps  in  the Secure  Rural  Schools  funds  and asked  what  the                                                               
breakdown of  fund usage is  for the  SRS program. She  asked how                                                               
difficult  it   would  be  to  convince   Alaska's  congressional                                                               
delegation or  the President of the  United States to pass  a new                                                               
SRS act.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHAW answered  that  this would  be the  first  time in  the                                                               
history  of the  SRS  Program  that there  would  be  a lapse  in                                                               
funding. He said that the  Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act                                                               
was  an example  of a  law that  allowed a  community to  use all                                                               
funds from SRS funding. He added  that Yakutat, Alaska is a prime                                                               
example  of a  community that  would be  greatly affected  by the                                                               
loss of the SRS program.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:26:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY  asked  how  the   SRS  could  change  to  become                                                               
permanent  law  and  asked  if   the  current  legislation  being                                                               
proposed before the United States Congress has a sunset clause.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE BYNUM  said that a  new piece of  legislation would                                                               
have to  not include a  sunset clause in  order for it  to become                                                               
permanent law.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:27:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY pointed  out that there were 4  letters of support                                                               
from  the   Wrangell,  Ketchikan,  Yakutat,  and   Juneau  school                                                               
districts.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:28:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY announced that HJR 5 would be held over.                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR 5 Presentation_Slides, HEDC.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HJR 5
HJR 5 Version A.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HJR 5
HJR 5 Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HJR 5
HJR 5 letter of Support - Ketchikan Gateway Borough.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HJR 5
HJR 5 Letter of Support - City & Borough of Wrangell.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HJR 5
HJR 5 Applicable Resolution - Petersburg Borough.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HJR 5
HJR 5 Letter of Support - City & Borough of Juneau.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HJR 5
HJR 5 Rural Schools Shortfall, Alaska Beacon 01-10-2025.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HJR 5
HB 69 Written Testimony 6.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 69
HJR 5 Letter of Support - Craig City SD, Super. 2.12.25.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HJR 5
HJR005-1-1-021725-Fiscal Note LEG-N.pdf HEDC 2/5/2025 8:00:00 AM
HJR 5