Legislature(2017 - 2018)GRUENBERG 120
02/06/2018 03:00 PM House STATE AFFAIRS
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| HCR2 | |
| HB168|| HCR10 | |
| HJR31 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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| + | HCR 2 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | HB 168 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | HCR 10 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | HJR 31 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED |
HCR 2-RESPOND TO ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES
3:12:11 PM
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS announced that the first order of business
would be HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 2, Urging Governor Bill
Walker to join with the Alaska State Legislature to respond to
the public and behavioral health epidemic of adverse childhood
experiences by establishing a statewide policy and providing
programs to address this epidemic.
3:12:28 PM
REPRESENTATIVE GERAN TARR, Alaska State Legislature, as prime
sponsor of HCR 2, brought attention to the proposed committee
substitute (CS) for HCR 2 [30-LS0277\J, Glover, 1/17/18,
included in the committee packet and hereafter referred to as
"Version J"]. She maintained that given the current fiscal
crisis, the need for long-term planning, and the need to
understand the state's "cost drivers," the time is right to
discuss the issue of the public health crisis of adverse
childhood experiences (ACEs) in Alaska and its impacts to
communities and the state budget.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR began a PowerPoint presentation, entitled "A
Public Health Crisis: Adverse Childhood Experiences." She
referred to slide 2, entitled "What are ACES?" and relayed that
two physicians - Dr. [Vincent] Filitti and Dr. [Robert] Anda -
in doing research on obesity, discovered a link between early
childhood experiences and health problems in adulthood. This
led to their 1998 study, in which they gave a ten-question quiz
to enrollees of a health insurance program to assess their
exposure to trauma as children. Based on the answers to those
questions, each research subject was assigned an ACE score from
zero to ten.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR turned to slide 3, entitled "What Kind of
Childhood Trauma?" and relayed that the quiz assessed trauma in
three categories - abuse, neglect, and household disfunction.
Two of the categories include behaviors that impact the person,
such as physical abuse, sexual abuse, neglect, domestic violence
to an adult family member, and having a parent in jail.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR moved on to slide 4, entitled "What is your
ACES Score?" and encouraged committee members to take the quiz
on their own to get a better understanding of the exposures that
are assessed by the quiz. She offered that doing so would help
the members appreciate the information gathered and the
potential of that information to influence policy and save
money.
3:16:44 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR referred to slide 5, entitled "ACES Studies
in Alaska," and stated that there were two key findings from the
ACE studies conducted in Alaska. The first is that childhood
trauma is far more common and far more expensive than previously
realized. She said that the finding that childhood trauma is
"more common" is something of great concern. Alaska has a
record number of children in foster care - more than 3,000
currently - and these children likely have experienced a great
deal of trauma in childhood and are continuing to experience
trauma. She referred to the category "neglect," and offered
that the research demonstrates that prolonged neglect can be
more damaging than physical and sexual abuse. She stated that
the second key finding was that the impact of this trauma
affects individuals over a lifetime and societies over
generations. She emphasized the importance of that finding:
the ACE study reveals the exposures to an individual that lead
to undesirable health outcomes in adulthood; the impact to
societies over generations has not been fully understood in the
public policy context. She mentioned that the Office of
Children's Services (OCS) often serves the second and third
generations of the same families.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR referred to slide 6, entitled "Select
Negative Health Outcomes," and said that some of the negative
outcomes listed are not surprising. Before the ACE studies,
people referred to the "cycle of violence," in which individuals
growing up with domestic violence in the home have a higher
likelihood of committing violence. She said that what the ACE
study discovered that was new was physical health problems as
outcomes, such as liver disease and heart disease, which can be
very costly.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR turned to slide 7, entitled "Select Negative
Health Outcomes," to point out the percentages of an outcome
linked to high ACE scores. She relayed that the research shows
that 40.6 percent of Medicaid spending can be linked to
childhood trauma; Medicaid spending is prominent in state budget
discussions; and there has been an increase of 30,000 Medicaid
enrollees this year. To the extent that the increase in
Medicaid enrollees is the result of early childhood trauma,
"upstream" prevention activities become more important for
influencing the outcomes and eliminating spending.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR cited from slide 7 the "current smoker"
outcome percentage of 32 percent and the "heavy drinking"
outcome percentage of 20.5 percent. She referred to a McDowell
Group report, entitled "The Economic Costs of Drug Abuse in
Alaska, 2016 Update," prepared for the Alaska Mental Health
Trust Authority (AMHTA) and the Advisory Board on Alcoholism and
Drug Abuse (ABADA), which claims that the cost is in the
billions of dollars. She emphasized that Alaska is paying for
the costs through treatment, through courts, through
incarceration, and through the handling of dysfunctional
students in schools. She maintained that considering the cost
to Alaska, there is great opportunity to makes changes and spend
this money better.
3:21:01 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR referred to slide 8, entitled "The Price of
Not Intervening Before Trauma Occurs," to demonstrate potential
savings: a 32 percent reduction in costs due to smoking would
yield a $186 million in savings; a 20 percent reduction in
[costs due to] substance abuse would yield a $350 million in
savings; and a 40.6 percent reduction in Medicaid costs would
yield a $350 million in savings. She offered that the proposed
resolution mentions other statistics and explained that because
of all the research in this area, costs and percentages are
constantly being updated; in any case, the costs are significant
and there are opportunities for savings.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR referred to slide 9, entitled "Overcoming
ACES in Alaska Building a Statewide Movement," to point out the
many and varied organizations that have been able to "connect
the dots" by looking at the outcomes, such as drug abuse,
domestic violence, and suicide, through the ACE "lens", and thus
understand that their issues are all interrelated. She gave an
example: individuals with four or more ACEs are in the hundreds
of percentiles more likely to commit suicide; Alaska leads the
nation in suicide rates; if suicide prevention is directed
toward young adults or teens, the opportunity may have been
missed, because suicide may be the result of childhood trauma.
She claimed that organizations such as Best Beginnings and
Alaska Association for Infant and Early Childhood Mental Health
(AK-AIMH) have been formed based on the recognition that early
childhood experiences are integral to lifetime experiences, and
there is opportunity to impact the subsequent issues by looking
at them through the lens of ACE.
3:24:06 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR turned to slide 10, entitled "Overcoming
ACES in Alaska: Connecting people and policies," to point out
additional work done in the state. She stated that OCS receives
50 reports of child abuse or neglect per day. Most ACEs happen
to Alaska kids by age 3; therefore, waiting until early
adulthood or adulthood to address the problem is too long.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR moved on to slide 11, entitled "Overcoming
ACES in Alaska" to present the three "asks" in the resolution.
She maintained that the resolution does not request policy
changes at this time; it is more focused on raising awareness
and building the knowledge foundation around ACE, the research
that has been performed in Alaska, and the opportunity for
changing practices, improving health outcomes, and saving money.
3:25:07 PM
ALISON KULAS, Executive Director, Advisory Board on Alcoholism
and Drug Abuse (ABADA), testified that ABADA looks for the
connections that Representative Tarr mentioned and ways to work
with partners to reduce ACEs. She stated that ABADA has been
able to partner with the Department of Education and Early
Development (DEED), which created eLearning modules to inform
teachers, school staff, and community members about ACEs and
offer them a trauma-informed approach to intervening early in
life.
3:26:50 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KNOPP moved to adopt Version J as the working
document. There being no objection, Version J was before the
committee.
3:27:17 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX expressed her belief that ACEs cause some
real problems in adulthood. She referred to page 2 of Version
J, lines 6-10, and asked whether smoking and obesity were more
the result of parents smoking and the foods they gave their
children, rather than abuse.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR maintained that ACE research is changing the
understanding on those issues. She gave an example: many
schools are incorporating "mindfulness" activities to address
trauma by helping children self-regulate their emotions;
activities often include meditative and deep breathing
exercises. She maintained that some counselors believe that the
link between smoking and a high ACE score is because smoking
replicates a mindfulness activity; it involves deep breathing,
but in the form of smoking. She claimed that the original [ACE]
study is recent, and the information is new, therefore, has not
been broadly applied in the medical community or in public
policy yet. She emphasized the importance of the quiz and
maintained that doctors are beginning to ask their patients the
same questions [as on the ACE quiz] to better understand the
origin of behaviors.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR offered the term "epigenetics" and explained
that everyone starts out with a genetic blueprint, but it is
subject to change due to environmental exposures. She said that
there are modifications and mutations to the genetic blueprint
that may be related to later health effects.
3:30:00 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked if the quiz is in the committee
packet.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR replied, it is not. She stated that she
would provide the link to committee members. She maintained
that the collective ACE score of all 60 legislators would be
interesting information.
3:30:38 PM
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL expressed his appreciation with the study
and his support of early intervention. He commented that he
believes that there are some "leaps of faith" in the numbers
provided by Representative Tarr: for example, 20 percent of
people who smoke do so because of ACEs or 20 percent of people
who drink heavily do so because of ACEs; therefore, without
ACEs, 20 percent of the costs would be eliminated.
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL relayed that he recently asked the principal
at his children's school what she needed most. He said that she
replied, "I need a social worker." He offered that children in
elementary school today have more social problems than children
a generation ago; dealing with those problems earlier [in life]
would be advantageous.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR referred to page 8 of the report, entitled
"The Economic Costs of Adverse Childhood Experiences in Alaska"
[prepared by Patrick Sidmore, MSW, for ABADA and the Alaska
Mental Health Board (AMHB) and included in the committee
packet], which read, "Population attributable risk is a well-
established method in epidemiology of determining the percentage
of an outcome which is linked back to a precursor". She said
that this section of the report explains the science and
methodology of determining the percentages. She maintained that
often health data is difficult to obtain, and it is important to
continue the research.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR mentioned that the All Alaska Pediatric
Partnership (A2P2) has been encouraging physicians to have
conversations [about ACEs] with their patients; Alaska Native
Tribal Health Consortium (ANTHC) has incorporated these
discussions into their standard communications with patients.
She emphasized the importance of this in dealing with the
intergenerational trauma aspect of ACE.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR stated that when one hears stories about a
person getting into trouble, he/she rarely hears that the person
came from a stable, loving home with an upbringing that offered
opportunity; more often the person had a great deal of childhood
trauma. She maintained that when looking at these issues
through the ACE lens, instead of asking, Why did you do that? or
placing the blame for the behavior entirely on the person,
whether a child or adult, ask, What happened to you? She
maintained that many of these behaviors are the result of "bad
things that have happened to people" and people are only so
resilient. Resiliency comes from protective factors, and
protective factors include a stable, loving home. Children
growing up without protective factors are hindered in their
abilities to overcome trauma experiences.
3:34:53 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON offered that [ACE] exists to some degree
but opined that the proposed resolution feels like "big brother"
intrusion and "social engineering." She cited page 3 of Version
J, lines 23-26, which read, "take into account the principles of
early childhood and youth brain development and, whenever
possible, consider the concepts of early adversity, toxic
stress, childhood trauma, and the promotion of resilience
through protective relationships, supports, self-regulation, and
services".
REPRESENTATIVE TARR answered that she disagrees. She relayed
that she grew up in an abusive household and watched her brother
struggle his whole life until he committed suicide. She
expressed her belief that what is proposed under HCR 2 is not
social engineering; children should not have to be beaten or
sexually abused; children are innocent and have no choice or
power in the situations into which they are brought; and caring
for children is a moral responsibility. She reminded the
committee of the 50 reports of child abuse or neglect per day
coming into OCS; over 10,000 reports per year; and in the month
of December there were several hundred reports of child sexual
abuse. She asserted that there are children suffering
unnecessarily, and the state has a role to play to end the
suffering and give these children more opportunities in life.
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON responded that she did not say that
children should be abused. She emphasized that the legislature
is not for abusing children. She maintained that not passing
the resolution does not mean that the legislature is for abusing
children.
3:38:30 PM
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS announced that HCR 2 would be held over.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HCR002 Sponsor Statement 2.22.17.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HCR002 ver J 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HCR002 Fiscal Note LEG 02.02.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HCR002 Supporting Document- Article ABADA.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HCR002 Supporting Document- Article ABADA-AMHB.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HCR002 Supporting Document- Article CDC Injury Prevention & Control Division of Violence Prevention.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HCR002 Supporting Document- Article Felitti.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HCR002 Supporting Document- Article Yosef.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HCR002 Supporting Document- Letter of Support AK Resilience Initiative 1.9.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HCR002 Supporting Document- Letter of Support Planned Parenthood 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HCR 002 Additional Document- Presentation on Overcoming Adverse Childhood Experiences in AK 02.05.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 2 |
| HB168 Sponsor Statement-01.22.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HB 168 |
| HB168-Sectional Analysis-01.22.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HB 168 |
| HB168A 01.22.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HB 168 |
| HB168-Fiscal Note LEG-02.02.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HB 168 |
| HB168-Additional Document- Leg Research-Meetings-01.22.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HB 168 |
| HB168 Additional Document State v ALIVE Voluntary summary and headnotes-2018 01.22.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HB 168 |
| HB168 Additional Document- Statutes Cited 01.22.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HB 168 |
| HCR 10-Sponsor Statement-01.22.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 10 |
| HCR10A 01.22.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 10 |
| HCR10 Fiscal Note LEG-02-02-18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 10 |
| HCR 10 Additional Document-Uniform Rule 20-01.22.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HCR 10 |
| HJR31 Sponsor Statement 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 ver A 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31-LEG-SESS-02-02-18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Document-Dec. 14 Article Business Insider 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Document-Dec. 15 Article Business Insider 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Document-Dec. 15 Article NPR 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Document-Governor's Letter 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Document-Letter to Attorney General Lindemuth 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Document-Letter to Congressional Delegation 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Document-Letter to Senator Murkowski 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Document-Portugal Payment Package Example 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Document-Rep. Kawasaki Letter to Governor 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Documents 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Documents-Fraudulent Comments from Alaska 02.05.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Documents-Groups Apposed to Reversing Net Neutrality 02.05.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Documents-Pew Study 02.05.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Supporting Document-University of Maryland Survey 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Additional Document-Dec. 13 Article Business Insider 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Additional Document-Jan. 4 FCC Order 1.29.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Additional Document- ATA Net Neutrality Letter to House State Affairs HJR31 2.06.18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |
| HJR31 Additional Document- ATA Net Neutrality FAQ 2.06 18.pdf |
HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM |
HJR 31 |