Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 17

02/25/2008 03:00 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 413 EXTENDING THE REAL ESTATE COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 350 VEHICLE RENTAL TAX COLLECTION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 379 CPA EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
HB 413-EXTENDING THE REAL ESTATE COMMISSION                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:04:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  announced that the  first order of business  would be                                                              
HOUSE BILL  NO. 413,  "An Act extending  the termination  date for                                                              
the  Real  Estate  Commission;  and  providing  for  an  effective                                                              
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ELEANOR WOLFE, Staff,  to Representative Kurt Olson,  Alaska State                                                              
Legislature, explained  that HB 413  would extend the  Real Estate                                                              
Commission until June 30, 2016.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:04:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAT  DAVIDSON,   Legislative  Auditor,  Division   of  Legislative                                                              
Audit,   Alaska  State   Legislature,   stated   that  the   audit                                                              
recommends  extending  the termination  date  of  the Real  Estate                                                              
Commission  until June  30, 2016.   The  report contained  several                                                              
recommendations.   Although one recommendation is  more related to                                                              
finance,  she pointed  out  one fiscal  change  that affected  the                                                              
recommendation to  increase license fees.  The  auditors concluded                                                              
the  field audit  work  in May  and recommended  increasing  fees.                                                              
However,  due to subsequent  fiscal  activity, it  is no longer  a                                                              
valid  recommendation.   The  board  is licensing  and  regulating                                                              
real estate  professionals in a manner  to serve the public.   The                                                              
division  recommends extending  the termination  date of  the Real                                                              
Estate Commission.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:06:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH  inquired  as to  recommendation  two,  which                                                              
identified  that  a  board  member   had  been  appointed  to  the                                                              
commission   without  having  met   the  professional   experience                                                              
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DAVIDSON  explained  that   the  audit  identified  that  the                                                              
experience  requirement  for  board  member  was  not  met.    The                                                              
statute requires  three years of  experience and the  board member                                                              
only  had two  years of  experience  at the  time of  appointment.                                                              
The  division   addressed  a  recommendation  to   the  governor's                                                              
office,  who  agreed   all  members  of  the  board   should  meet                                                              
statutory  requirements  and  appreciated  the  division  bringing                                                              
this matter to their  attention.  She offered that  the passage of                                                              
time has remedied the problem.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH  inquired   as  to  whether  any  legislation                                                              
passed  during the  time  period  when the  board  member was  not                                                              
eligible to serve, or were any decisions made that are moot.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. DAVIDSON answered  that all formal actions taken  by the board                                                              
would have  to be reviewed to  determine if the  individual's vote                                                              
mattered.  The  auditors did not find anything  in particular, she                                                              
related, but that brings up the core of the problem.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:08:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  referred to  the audit's  prior  findings                                                              
with  respect  to  the  Real  Estate  Surety  Fund  (RESF).    She                                                              
inquired  as to  whether pending  legislation  that would  replace                                                              
the surety  fund with  a recovery  fund would  be in keeping  with                                                              
the division's recommendations.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
MS. DAVIDSON  offered she  is aware  that there  is a  bill before                                                            
the legislature,  but  that she  has not done  in-depth review  of                                                              
it.  In the  course of audit, the auditors reviewed  the RESF with                                                              
reference  to whether it  duplicates activities.   The  division's                                                              
concern  is  whether  there is  private  insurance  available  for                                                              
approximately  the same value  that is available  to members.   Of                                                              
11  western states  surveyed, seven  states had  surety funds  and                                                              
did  not  require professional  liability  insurance,  she  noted.                                                              
Another  two  states  did  not  have  surety  funds  nor  required                                                              
professional liability  insurance.   The remaining two  states did                                                              
not  have surety  funds but  did  require professional  liability.                                                              
Annual  premiums on  these Errors  and  Omissions (E&O)  insurance                                                              
policies can  range from $500 to  $5,000 for coverage equal  to or                                                              
more than  the coverage provided  by the  RESF.  The  auditors did                                                              
not find a  ready market for that  type of insurance for  the same                                                              
cost.   If you increase  the cost to  the licensees, that  cost is                                                              
typically  passed  on  to  consumers,  she  opined.    The  sunset                                                              
legislation  surrounds  public   interest.    Thus,  the  auditors                                                              
examined  duplicate activity  and concluded  there is  none.   She                                                              
reaffirmed she has  not reviewed pending legislation  that affects                                                              
the RESF.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  inquired as to whether the  surety fund is                                                              
the recourse  when the claim is  not an error or omission,  but is                                                              
the result of fraud or misrepresentation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:12:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. DAVIDSON  answered that  the division examined  the cost  of a                                                              
surety bond and cost of E&O insurance as a benchmark.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON   noted  that   HB  413   extends  the  Real   Estate                                                              
Commission.   Another  bill, HB  357 -CLAIMS  AGAINST REAL  ESTATE                                                              
LICENSEES  is  currently  before  the  House  Labor  and  Commerce                                                              
Standing  Committee,   but  is   being  held  pending   additional                                                              
committee  work on  issues,  he noted.   He  offered  to have  Ms.                                                              
Davidson testify on the other bill when HB 357 is heard.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:12:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. DAVIDSON,  in response to  Representative Neuman,  stated that                                                              
board  membership  information  is  posted to  the  Department  of                                                              
Commerce, Community,  & Economic Development web site,  as well as                                                              
individual  professionals  who are  licensed.   However,  she  was                                                              
uncertain whether  their credentials are also listed.   In further                                                              
response to Representative  Neuman, Ms. Davidson  offered that the                                                              
governor's   office,    Boards   and   Commissions    would   have                                                              
information.   Additionally,  confirmation  hearings  are held  on                                                              
appointees  to boards,  so  there  may be  credential  information                                                              
contained in the  committee minutes.  She explained  that the Real                                                              
Estate  Commission  licenses  and regulates  the  occupation,  but                                                              
that there are also professional organizations.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:15:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON,  after  first  determining  no one  else  wished  to                                                              
testify, closed public testimony on HB 413.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:15:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN moved  to report  HB 413  out of  committee                                                              
with  individual  recommendations   and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                              
notes.   There being no  objection, HB  413 was reported  from the                                                              
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                    

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