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03/28/2018 01:00 PM House RESOURCES
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| HB173 | |
| Adjourn |
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| *+ | HB 399 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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HB 399-CORP. TAX: REMOVE EXEMPTIONS/CREDITS
1:04:59 PM
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON announced that the first order of business
would be HOUSE BILL NO. 399, "An Act disallowing a federal tax
credit as a credit against the corporate net income tax;
repealing a provision allowing the exclusion of certain
royalties accrued or received from foreign corporations for
purposes of the corporate net income tax; repealing the reduced
rate for the alternative tax on capital gains for corporations;
repealing an exemption from filing a return under the corporate
net income tax for a corporation engaged in a contract under the
Alaska Stranded Gas Development Act; and providing for an
effective date."
1:05:02 PM
BRODIE ANDERSON, Staff, Representative Neal Foster, Alaska State
Legislature, introduced HB 399 on behalf of Representative
Foster, co-chair of the House Finance Committee, sponsor. He
said HB 399 is the culmination of work to address foregone
revenue and to provide the State of Alaska with the ability to
potentially capture new revenue. To provide a brief history on
how the bill came to be introduced, he noted that in 2014
legislation was passed that required both the Department of
Revenue (DOR) and the Legislative Finance Division, Legislative
Agencies and Offices, to create a report on indirect
expenditures and the amount of foregone revenue not captured by
the State of Alaska. The first indirect expenditure report was
submitted in 2015 [entitled, "2015 Legislative Finance Indirect
Expenditure Report"]. This report identified a list of indirect
expenditures within the Department of Revenue that should be
terminated. Last year during the fiscal year 2018 (FY18) budget
process the House Finance Subcommittee for the Department of
Revenue reviewed these indirect expenditures and recommended the
House Finance Committee offer legislation that eliminates these
indirect expenditures.
MR. ANDERSON explained HB 399 would repeal certain credits and
exemptions that are recommended for termination in both the 2015
indirect expenditure report and last year's FY18 budget
subcommittee. He said the indirect expenditures that would be
repealed in [HB] 399 were selected for repeal for the following
reasons: the indirect expenditures did not meet legislative
intent, had limited or no usage, or their conforming purpose has
changed. The following indirect expenditures would be repealed
by HB 399: federal tax credits, foreign royalty exclusions, a
reduced rate for capital gains, and credit associated with the
Alaska Stranded Gas Development Act. According to the fiscal
note before the committee, he continued, the combined total of
the potential new revenue is up to an estimated $6.9 million.
1:07:43 PM
MR. ANDERSON provided a sectional analysis of HB 399. He said
Section 1 would amend Alaska Statute (AS) 43.20.021(a) by
amending the current section with conforming language that
removes the list of federal credits as eligible items against
Alaska corporate income tax liability.
MR. ANDERSON stated Sections 2 and 3 would amend AS 43.20.145(c)
and (d), respectively, by amending those current sections with
conforming language in the Affiliated Groups section, removing
the reference to the subsection on foreign royalty payments as
eligible for Alaska corporate income tax liability.
MR. ANDERSON explained Section 4 is the repealer section of the
bill. He said this section would repeal the following statutes:
AS 43.20.021(c), which is the reduced rate in capital gains; AS
43.20.21(d), which is the eligibility of federal tax credits for
Alaska corporate income tax liability; AS 43.20.036(a), which is
the eligibility of federal foreign tax credit for Alaska
corporate income tax liability; AS 43.20.036(b), which is the
eligibility of federal investment credit for Alaska corporate
income tax liability; AS 43.20.042, which is the eligibility of
federal special industrial incentive investment credit for
Alaska corporate income tax liability; AS.43.20.144(g), which is
the exemption for Alaska corporate tax liability for entities
participating in contracts related to the Alaska Stranded Gas
Development Act; AS 43.20.145(g), which is the Stranded Gas Act
exclusion; and AS 43.20.145(b)(3), which is the foreign royalty
exclusion.
MR. ANDERSON said Section 5 is uncodified law, the applicability
clauses. Sections 1, 2, 3, and portions of 4 would be subject
to the effective date, which is Section 6, and which would add a
new section making the effective date for this legislation as
January 1, 2019.
1:11:46 PM
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH offered his understanding that the genesis
of HB 399 is the indirect expenditure report assessment. He
asked what the net result is of this in addition to getting rid
of some tax credits. He further asked why [these tax credits]
were had in the first place - for example, whether they were
incentives or inducements for certain behavior and whether the
State of Alaska will lose something by eliminating them.
MR. ANDERSON replied that many of the indirect expenditures were
created at the time the tax code was created. Many of them were
legislative intent to create a specific behavior. Since their
creation they maybe haven't lived up to the expectation of
inciting that behavior for corporations within Alaska.
1:12:49 PM
BRANDON SPANOS, Deputy Director, Tax Division, DOR, stated the
2015 indirect expenditure report tried to answer that specific
question on each individual expenditure. The report tried to
detail whether the indirect expenditure was meeting what its
intent was, if DOR knew what the intent was. He explained the
federal tax credits were adopted by reference and they were
given a specific rate that was similar to the tax rate prior to
adopting [the state's] new structure in 1970. So, basically,
corporations were already getting that and [DOR] continued to
adopt it. He added he hasn't gone back and listened to those
hearings and therefore doesn't know if there were any other
specific reasons.
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH inquired whether there has been any
consultation with those who would be impacted by this and
whether the feedback has been adverse.
MR. ANDERSON answered that at this time the only true outreach
would be the creation of the 2015 Legislative Finance Indirect
Expenditure Report and discussions throughout policy committees
and committees to discuss whether indirect expenditures should
be removed. Regarding who is impacted, he said DOR did submit a
letter. Particularly in 2016, he continued, 273 beneficiaries
for a total of $1.4 million participated in claiming federal tax
credits against their Alaska corporate income tax liability.
1:15:17 PM
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH observed the change in revenue anticipated
for the Alaska Stranded Gas Development Act is $0. He requested
this be spoken to.
MR. SPANOS responded the credits were sunset through statute.
He said 1994 was the last date that [companies] could have an
expenditure that would create a credit and [companies] could
carry it forward no later than 1999. This is really just
cleanup language, he continued, in that it would remove credits
that no longer exist.
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH surmised this part of the bill is what
falls under the House Resources Standing Committee's purview.
Since this part is just conforming language, he said, he would
just as soon pass the bill on to the House Finance Committee.
MR. ANDERSON replied that because of the Alaska Stranded Gas
Development Act component in HB 399 he was not surprised the
bill received a House Resources Standing Committee referral to
answer that portion of the question.
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH noted the intended purpose of [the foreign
royalty exclusion] was to encourage foreign investment in
Alaska. However, he said, this exclusion has had the unintended
consequence of corporations transferring certain assets like
patents to overseas subsidiaries, paying royalties for their
use, and then excluding 80 percent of those expenses from
income. He asked how much of the total fiscal impact of this
portion would be captured by closing this troubling loophole.
MR. ANDERSON drew attention to the fiscal note, page 2, change
in revenue estimates, item 2 on foreign royalties, and said DOR
states it could be a potential of $1.7 million.
1:18:35 PM
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH inquired whether it is accurate to say
that that suggests the vast majority of these monies are
foregone by the state essentially to incentivize domestic
companies sending assets overseas or giving them to overseas
holding companies and then paying fees for their use.
MR. SPANOS responded they could be legitimate royalties and not
necessarily a transfer of U.S. assets to gain that benefit; it
could be some other asset that was already overseas. Is a
multi-national corporation, he said, the corporation pays
royalties to a foreign subsidiary or a foreign parent and would
receive a benefit of an exclusion of 80 percent of those
royalties. It's unusual for a state to take that position, he
added.
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH asked whether it would be correct to say
that it does create a positive incentive for sending such assets
overseas.
MR. SPANOS answered yes DOR has seen that happen.
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH thanked Mr. Spanos and said he found the
information that Mr. Spanos referenced.
1:20:14 PM
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON opened public testimony on HB 399.
1:20:25 PM
MICHAEL WILLIAMS, Revenue Audit Supervisor, Tax Division,
Department of Revenue (DOR), at the request of Co-Chair
Josephson described his position at DOR. He said he specializes
in corporate income tax, so he is the principle party for
enforcement of these statutes as they currently exist and would
be the principle party for enforcement of these statutes should
they change.
1:21:27 PM
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON closed public testimony after ascertaining no
one wished to testify.
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON held over HB 399.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB173 Version M.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |
| HB 399 Sponsor Statement 3.26.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB 399 O 3.26.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB 399 Sectional Sectional Analysis ver O 3.26.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB 399 Fiscal Note-DOR-TAX 3.24.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB 399 Additional Documents DOR Letter 3.26.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB 399 Additional Documents CIT Sector Report FY 2017 3.26.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB 399 Additional Documents - Indirect Expenditure Report Reduced Rate Capital Gains.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB 399 Additional Documents - Indirect Expenditure Report Foreign Royalty.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB 399 Additional Documents - Indirect Expenditure Report Federal Credits.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB 399 Additional Documents - Indirect Expenditure Report Stranded Gas.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB173 Supporting Document - Davin Holen Presentation 3.28.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |
| HB173 Supporting Document - Jeremy Littell 3.28.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |
| HB173 Supporting Document - Joel Neimeyer - Denali Commission presentation 3.28.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |
| HB173 Supporting Document - Mike Black Presentation 3.28.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |
| HB173 Supporting Document - Nikoosh Carlo Presentation 3.28.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |
| SB173 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM SRES 2/12/2018 3:30:00 PM |
SB 173 |
| HB173 Fiscal Note GOV-CCC 4.10.17.PDF |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |
| HB173 Fiscal Note DOR-TAX 3.26.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |
| HB 399 Opposing Document - Letter in Opposition 3.28.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/30/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/4/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 399 |
| HB173 Supporting Document - Letter in Support 3.28.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |
| HB173 WSJ_Climate_McAleer_Opinion 4.2.18.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |
| Denali Commish Neimeyer Ltrs to HRES re HB173.pdf |
HRES 3/28/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 173 |