Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124
04/26/2024 01:00 PM House RESOURCES
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HB 396-DNR BIG GAME GUIDE PERMIT PROGRAM 2:01:53 PM CHAIR MCKAY announced that the first order of business would be HOUSE BILL NO. 396 "An Act establishing a big game guide concession area permit program on land in the state; relating to the duties of the Big Game Commercial Services Board, the Board of Game, the Department of Fish and Game, and the Department of Natural Resources; requiring the Board of Game to establish an initial big game guide concession area; and providing for an effective date." 2:02:47 PM The committee took an at-ease from 2:02 p.m. to 2:04 p.m. 2:04:58 PM REPRESENATIVE BAKER moved to adopt Amendment 1 to HB 396, labeled 33-LS1546\A.2, Bullard, 4/18/24, which read as follows: Page 4, line 6: Delete "what was" Page 5, line 4, following "process.": Insert "The department shall establish permit standards and scoring criteria, but may not provide that a permit be issued based on the highest bid amount." Page 5, line 5, following "time": Insert "for state land issued under this subsection" Page 6, lines 24 - 25: Delete all material. Page 6, line 26: Delete "(B)" Page 7, lines 1 - 2: Delete all material. Page 7, line 3: Delete "(B)" CHAIR MCKAY objected for the purpose of discussion. 2:05:08 PM REPRESENATIVE BAKER explained Amendment 1 to the committee, stating that it would ensure big game guide concession areas are based off current guide use area boundaries, prevent big game guide concession permits from going to the highest bidder, and assert protections for assistant guides. He expounded that preventing highest bidders from buying permits would prevent out-of-state firms from cutting out local guides, and that limiting assistant guides works against the way guiding is taught and makes it more difficult for guiding clients with physical disabilities. 2:06:40 PM CHAIR MCKAY removed his objection. There being no further objection, Amendment 1 was adopted. 2:07:23 PM CHAIR MCKAY moved to adopt Amendment 2 to HB 396, labeled 33- LS1546\A.4, Bullard, 4/14/24, which read as follows: Page 4, line 9: Delete "AS 38.05.022(i)" Insert "AS 38.05.022(j)" Page 4, line 13: Delete "AS 38.05.022(i)" Insert "AS 38.05.022(j)" Page 6, following line 17: Insert a new subsection to read: "(i) In issuing a full big game guide concession area permit or limited big game guide concession area permit under this section, the commissioner, in consultation with the Big Game Commercial Services Board established under AS 08.54.591, the Board of Game, the Department of Fish and Game, and affected Alaska Native corporations, if any, shall consider each applicant's professional history and reputation, in addition to other applicable criteria in the process required by (c) of this section." Reletter the following subsection accordingly. Page 8, line 3: Delete "AS 38.05.022(i)" Insert "AS 38.05.022(j)" Page 8, line 6: Delete "AS 38.05.022(i)" Insert "AS 38.05.022(j)" REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER objected for the purpose of discussion. 2:07:30 PM CHAIR MCKAY explained that Amendment 2 was drafted to specify Alaskan Native representation when issuing either a full or limited big game guide concession area permit and invited Azabel Ordaz to further explain Amendment 2. 2:08:02 PM AZABEL ORDAZ, Staff, Representative Thomas McKay, Alaska State Legislature, explained that Amendment 2 relettered multiple sections to ensure definitions are at the end of subsections and summarized that the amendment works toward the program's purpose of stewardship, community engagement, and social license and gives affected Alaska Native corporations the opportunity to provide input on guide applicants' histories. She added that the amendment is supported by the Alaska Federation of Natives (AFN). 2:09:44 PM REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked how consultation would take place as it is required under the proposed amendment. 2:09:56 PM CHAIR MCKAY directed the question to Christy Colles. 2:10:17 PM CHRISTY COLLES, Director, Division of Mining, Land, & Water, Department of Natural Resources (DNR), offered her understanding that the Department would share the received applications with the required Alaska Native corporations and consult on who would be the appropriate guide to select. She said that Amendment 2 is concerning to DNR because it gives preference to Alaska Native corporations in determining who may hold a big game guide concession area permit. She stated that DNR does not support the amendment as written but supports continuing the conversation on consultation with stakeholders. 2:11:15 PM CHAIR MCKAY [moved to withdraw] Amendment 2. [There being no objection, Amendment 2 was withdrawn.] 2:11:41 PM REPRESENTATIVE MEARS moved to adopt Amendment 3 to HB 396, labeled 33-LS1546\A.1, Bullard, 4/18/24, which read as follows: Page 5, line 26: Delete ";" Insert "." Page 5, lines 27 - 28: Delete all material. CHAIR MCKAY objected for the purpose of discussion. 2:11:54 PM REPRESENTATIVE MEARS explained that Amendment 3 would remove language that reduces fees based on a concession permit holder's promotion and adherence to the provisions under HB 396. She appreciated the idea of rewarding good behavior but claimed "good guy discounts" were not appropriate as they are not done elsewhere. 2:12:56 PM The committee took an at-ease from 2:12 p.m. to 2:13 p.m. CHAIR MCKAY removed his objection. The committee took an at-ease from 2:13 p.m. to 2:13 p.m. 2:13:46 PM MS. COLLES supported Amendment 3 and said it would be difficult to manage the discounts or rewards for "good behavior" as defined under HB 396. 2:14:48 PM REPRESENTATIVE announced that there being no further objection, Amendment 3 was adopted. 2:15:07 PM REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE moved to report HB 396, as amended, out of committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes. There being no objection, CSHB 396(RES) was reported out of the House Resources Standing Committee.
Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
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CSHJR 22(BLANK) - 33-LS1321R.pdf |
HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 22 |
HJR 22 Summary of Changes.pdf |
HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 22 |
HB396 A.2.pdf |
HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 396 |
HB 396 A.4.pdf |
HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 396 |
HB 396 Letters of Support Updated 4.25.24.pdf |
HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 396 |
HB 396 Letter of Opposition 4.25.24.pdf |
HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 396 |
HB396 AM1.pdf |
HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 396 |
HB 396 AM2.pdf |
HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 396 |
HB 396 AM3.pdf |
HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 396 |