Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

04/26/2024 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 15 Minutes Following Session --
+= HB 114 VILLAGE SAFE WATER ACT;VILLAGE DEFINITION TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HJR 22 RESIDENT SUBSISTENCE USE OF FISH/GAME TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 396 DNR BIG GAME GUIDE PERMIT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 396(RES) Out of Committee
            HB 396-DNR BIG GAME GUIDE PERMIT PROGRAM                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:01:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  396  "An  Act establishing  a  big  game  guide                                                               
concession area permit program on  land in the state; relating to                                                               
the duties of  the Big Game Commercial Services  Board, the Board                                                               
of Game, the  Department of Fish and Game, and  the Department of                                                               
Natural Resources;  requiring the Board  of Game to  establish an                                                               
initial  big game  guide concession  area; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:02:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:02 p.m. to 2:04 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:04:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE  BAKER  moved  to  adopt Amendment  1  to  HB  396,                                                               
labeled 33-LS1546\A.2, Bullard, 4/18/24, which read as follows:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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      standards and scoring criteria, but may not provide                                                                       
        that a permit be issued based on the highest bid                                                                        
     amount."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIR MCKAY objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:05:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE  BAKER  explained  Amendment 1  to  the  committee,                                                               
stating that it would ensure  big game guide concession areas are                                                               
based off  current guide  use area  boundaries, prevent  big game                                                               
guide concession  permits from going  to the highest  bidder, and                                                               
assert  protections  for assistant  guides.    He expounded  that                                                               
preventing  highest bidders  from  buying  permits would  prevent                                                               
out-of-state  firms  from  cutting  out local  guides,  and  that                                                               
limiting  assistant  guides  works  against the  way  guiding  is                                                               
taught  and makes  it  more difficult  for  guiding clients  with                                                               
physical disabilities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:06:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCKAY  removed his  objection.    There being  no  further                                                               
objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:07:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  moved to adopt  Amendment 2  to HB 396,  labeled 33-                                                               
LS1546\A.4, Bullard, 4/14/24, which read as follows:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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          "(i)  In issuing a full big game guide concession                                                                     
     area permit  or limited big game  guide concession area                                                                    
     permit  under   this  section,  the   commissioner,  in                                                                    
     consultation  with  the  Big Game  Commercial  Services                                                                    
     Board  established  under  AS 08.54.591, the  Board  of                                                                    
     Game,  the Department  of Fish  and Game,  and affected                                                                    
     Alaska  Native  corporations,  if any,  shall  consider                                                                    
     each applicant's  professional history  and reputation,                                                                    
     in  addition  to  other   applicable  criteria  in  the                                                                    
     process required by (c) of this section."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsection accordingly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:07:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  explained that  Amendment 2  was drafted  to specify                                                               
Alaskan  Native  representation when  issuing  either  a full  or                                                               
limited big game guide concession  area permit and invited Azabel                                                               
Ordaz to further explain Amendment 2.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:08:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AZABEL ORDAZ,  Staff, Representative  Thomas McKay,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  explained  that  Amendment  2  relettered  multiple                                                               
sections to ensure definitions are  at the end of subsections and                                                               
summarized that the amendment works  toward the program's purpose                                                               
of  stewardship, community  engagement,  and  social license  and                                                               
gives  affected Alaska  Native  corporations  the opportunity  to                                                               
provide input  on guide  applicants' histories.   She  added that                                                               
the amendment  is supported by  the Alaska Federation  of Natives                                                               
(AFN).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:09:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked how  consultation would  take place                                                               
as it is required under the proposed amendment.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:09:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY directed the question to Christy Colles.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTY  COLLES, Director,  Division  of Mining,  Land, &  Water,                                                               
Department of Natural Resources  (DNR), offered her understanding                                                               
that the  Department would share  the received  applications with                                                               
the required Alaska Native corporations  and consult on who would                                                               
be the  appropriate guide to select.   She said that  Amendment 2                                                               
is  concerning  to DNR  because  it  gives preference  to  Alaska                                                               
Native corporations in determining who  may hold a big game guide                                                               
concession area  permit.   She stated that  DNR does  not support                                                               
the   amendment   as   written  but   supports   continuing   the                                                               
conversation on consultation with stakeholders.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:11:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  [moved to  withdraw] Amendment 2.   [There  being no                                                               
objection, Amendment 2 was withdrawn.]                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:11:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS  moved to  adopt  Amendment  3 to  HB  396,                                                               
labeled 33-LS1546\A.1, Bullard, 4/18/24, which read as follows:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIR MCKAY objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:11:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS explained  that  Amendment  3 would  remove                                                               
language that reduces fees based  on a concession permit holder's                                                               
promotion  and adherence  to the  provisions under  HB 396.   She                                                               
appreciated  the  idea of  rewarding  good  behavior but  claimed                                                               
"good guy  discounts" were not  appropriate as they are  not done                                                               
elsewhere.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:12:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:12 p.m. to 2:13 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY removed his objection.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:13 p.m. to 2:13 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:13:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. COLLES supported  Amendment 3 and said it  would be difficult                                                               
to  manage  the  discounts  or rewards  for  "good  behavior"  as                                                               
defined under HB 396.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:14:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE announced  that there being no  further objection,                                                               
Amendment 3 was adopted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:15:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE moved to report  HB 396, as amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection, CSHB  396(RES)  was                                                               
reported out of the House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CSHJR 22(BLANK) - 33-LS1321R.pdf HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJR 22
HJR 22 Summary of Changes.pdf HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJR 22
HB396 A.2.pdf HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 396
HB 396 A.4.pdf HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 396
HB 396 Letters of Support Updated 4.25.24.pdf HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 396
HB 396 Letter of Opposition 4.25.24.pdf HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 396
HB396 AM1.pdf HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 396
HB 396 AM2.pdf HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 396
HB 396 AM3.pdf HRES 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 396