Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

04/03/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:06:24 PM HB268 || HB270
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       April 3, 2024                                                                                            
                         1:06 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:06:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
to order at 1:06 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Alexei Painter, Director, Legislative Finance Division;                                                                         
Senator   Click   Bishop;   Representative   Jesse   Sumner;                                                                    
Representative Mike Prax.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 268    APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP; AM                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          HB 268 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 270    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 270 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda. The committee                                                                     
would continue to consider amendments to the operating and                                                                      
mental health budgets.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 268                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making capital  appropriations; making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations; making  reappropriations;                                                                    
     making  appropriations  under   art.  IX,  sec.  17(c),                                                                    
     Constitution  of   the  State   of  Alaska,   from  the                                                                    
     constitutional budget  reserve fund; and  providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 270                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:06:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^AMENDMENTS                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson relayed that the committee left off on                                                                         
Amendment N 71.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:07:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe MOVED to ADOPT Amendment N 71 (copy                                                                     
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Appropriation: Administration & Support                                                                                    
     Allocation:    Mental Health Trust Land Admin                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Delete Funding  for Trust Land  Office Salary                                                                    
     Increases                                                                                                                  
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: -55.9                                                                                                   
     Travel:   14.9                                                                                                             
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities:   -4.0                                                                                                        
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous:      0.0                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1092 MHTAAR    -45.0                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     This amendment reverses the pay increase for the                                                                           
     employees at the Department of Natural Resources,                                                                          
     Trust Land Office.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe  explained   that  the   amendment                                                                    
pertained to  a salary merit increase  within the Department                                                                    
of Natural Resources (DNR) for  the Trust Land Office (TLO).                                                                    
The amendment was  a decrement of $45,000  and would reverse                                                                    
the  pay increase.  She highlighted  that  the TLO  personal                                                                    
services  line showed  an expenditure  of $3.5  million. She                                                                    
recalled  that the  office had  generated about  $11 million                                                                    
for   the  trust.   She   thought   the  personal   services                                                                    
expenditure  was a  hefty  cost.  She highlighted  positions                                                                    
making  $317,000,  $259,000, $240,000,  $200,000,  $247,000,                                                                    
$327,000 within the  TLO. She explained that  half the money                                                                    
produced  by the  TLO  went into  the  Alaska Mental  Health                                                                    
Trust Authority (AMHTA) and the  remainder was used. She was                                                                    
offering the amendment  to make a point that  the TLO needed                                                                    
to keep  its operating cost  as limited as  possible because                                                                    
it impacted  the amount  going into the  trust and  how much                                                                    
money went towards mental health services in the state.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:09:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Ortiz   found   the  salaries   listed   by                                                                    
Representative Coulombe to  be eye popping. He  asked if the                                                                    
figures included salary only or salary and benefits.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe responded  that the figures included                                                                    
salary and benefits.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  was in  opposition to  the amendment.                                                                    
She  stated  her  understanding that  merit  increases  were                                                                    
contractual.  She  thought  it  was bad  precedent  to  give                                                                    
demerits  to  contracted  employees based  on  other  policy                                                                    
issues. She did  not support taking away  something that was                                                                    
an expectation  when an individual accepted  a position. She                                                                    
considered the argument that she  had supported an amendment                                                                    
[for a  decrease] to  a specific  state employee  in another                                                                    
area.  She  highlighted   that  Alaska  Gasline  Development                                                                    
Corporation  (AGDC)  employees  were exempt  staff  with  no                                                                    
contractual pay.  She thought the  two situations  were very                                                                    
different.  She noted  that the  staff working  for the  TLO                                                                    
were DNR  employees. She  thought it  was bad  precedent and                                                                    
practice  for  lawmakers  to  make  cuts  to  specific  PCNs                                                                    
[position  control numbers]  and  not  others. She  remarked                                                                    
that she  had many criticisms  of the  TLO for a  variety of                                                                    
reasons, but  she thought the  proposed reduction was  a bad                                                                    
practice.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:11:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk  opposed the amendment. He  pointed out                                                                    
that the increment  was requested and approved  by the AMHTA                                                                    
Board and  authorized by the  [DNR] budget  subcommittee. He                                                                    
would oppose the amendment, but  he appreciated the maker of                                                                    
the amendment bringing  it forward and the  effort to slowly                                                                    
chip away at some of the budget.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson appreciated the  that the amendment sponsor                                                                    
had brought the amendment forward.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:13:38 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:14:55 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Coulombe, Tomaszewski, Ortiz, Stapp, Johnson                                                                          
OPPOSED: Galvin, Cronk, Hannan, Josephson, Edgmon, Foster                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 71 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:16:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe MOVED to ADOPT Amendment N 72 (copy                                                                     
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Appropriation: Parks & Outdoor Recreation                                                                                  
     Allocation:    Parks Management & Access                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Increase Funding for Improvements within                                                                         
     Chugach State Park.                                                                                                        
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Inc                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 269.0                                                                                                   
     Travel:        0.0                                                                                                         
     Services: 42.0                                                                                                             
     Commodities:   5.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   25.0                                                                                                             
     Miscellaneous:           0.0                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     2                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     2                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1200 VehRntlTax     341.0                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     The  Chugach  park,  in  FY2022,  operated  on  a  $2.1                                                                    
     million  budget, while  bringing  in  $1.68 million  in                                                                    
     receipts.  The  park   needs  additional  resources  to                                                                    
     operate the most utilized State Park in Alaska.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  explained the  amendment pertaining                                                                    
to Chugach  Park. She detailed  that in FY 22,  Chugach Park                                                                    
operated on  a $2.1 million  budget while bringing  in $1.68                                                                    
million in  receipts. She relayed that  additional resources                                                                    
were  needed to  operate  the most  utilized  state park  in                                                                    
Alaska.  The park  had the  highest traffic  and was  almost                                                                    
500,000 acres and about the  size of Yosemite National Park.                                                                    
The park  was one  of the  four largest  state parks  in the                                                                    
U.S.  with year-round  access to  a variety  of recreational                                                                    
pursuits.  The  public use  in  the  park had  increased  47                                                                    
percent  between  2019  and  2021.  Generally,  through  the                                                                    
COVID-19  pandemic  there had  been  a  huge surge  of  park                                                                    
access.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  highlighted that  the park  had not                                                                    
received  an   increase  in  funding  associated   with  the                                                                    
increase in  usage. She met  with the parks  department over                                                                    
the  interim  and  had  learned   that  Chugach  State  Park                                                                    
subsidized  a   lot  of  maintenance  at   the  other  parks                                                                    
throughout  the  state  because it  brought  in  substantial                                                                    
funding.  She pointed  out that  trailheads in  her district                                                                    
were  being overrun  with trash  and there  were not  enough                                                                    
employees to keep  the trails clear. She  elaborated that an                                                                    
increase in sanitation maintenance  was needed. There were a                                                                    
lot  of issues  because traffic  had increased  rapidly, and                                                                    
the park had not received  sufficient funds to deal with the                                                                    
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  stated that the  $341,000 increment                                                                    
in the amendment  would go to waste  and sanitation funding,                                                                    
a   resource   technician,   volunteer  stipends,   a   park                                                                    
specialist,  trail  crew  staff,   and  tools  and  building                                                                    
materials  for  trail crew.  She  explained  that the  funds                                                                    
would go  a long way  towards the  situation at the  park in                                                                    
the summer. The fund source  was the vehicle rental tax. She                                                                    
had  received data  from  the  Legislative Finance  Division                                                                    
(LFD) and detailed that rental tax  revenue in FY 23 was $15                                                                    
million. Currently,  the legislature appropriated  about $12                                                                    
million of the  funding. She noted that the  amount was well                                                                    
within the  expenditure window. She  added that much  of the                                                                    
park  budget  came from  vehicle  rental  tax. The  increase                                                                    
would work to get trailheads cleaned up.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:19:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin  thanked   the  member   from  south                                                                    
Anchorage   for   putting   the   amendment   forward.   She                                                                    
underscored that  the Chugach  Park was  a state  jewel. She                                                                    
considered the number of statewide  visitors who enjoyed the                                                                    
particular area.  She saw value  in the small  increment and                                                                    
appreciated that  the sponsor had  found funding  other than                                                                    
general funds. She viewed the  increment as a tiny seed that                                                                    
would  hopefully   grow.  She   stated  it  would   have  an                                                                    
incredible  return on  investment  and it  was necessary  to                                                                    
ensure  the  parks  were welcoming,  clean,  and  safe.  She                                                                    
supported the amendment.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson spoke  in  strong  support of  the                                                                    
amendment. He noted  there had been a veto of  some funds in                                                                    
the  past and  he thought  they may  have been  general fund                                                                    
dollars. He considered that  perhaps the alternative funding                                                                    
source   would  be   viewed  more   favorably.  He   thanked                                                                    
Representative Coulombe for offering the amendment.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk spoke  in friendly  opposition to  the                                                                    
amendment. He  shared that the  topic had been  discussed in                                                                    
his subcommittee.  Over the past  three years,  the Division                                                                    
of  Parks received  an increase  exceeding $4.7  million. He                                                                    
noted that  Anchorage had voted  on Proposition 4,  which he                                                                    
believed   was  $4.35   million  that   could  leverage   an                                                                    
additional $16  million in federal  funding. He asked  if it                                                                    
would  have anything  to do  with  the park.  He directed  a                                                                    
question to  LFD and  asked if the  addition of  the vehicle                                                                    
rental tax exceeded the fund balance.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson asked  Mr. Painter to come to  the table to                                                                    
address the question. She noted  she did not want to consult                                                                    
LFD on  every amendment. She  thanked Mr. Painter  for being                                                                    
present and available for questions.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:23:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI  PAINTER,  DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
responded that  prior to the  amendment LFD  projected there                                                                    
was  about $2.7  million available  from the  vehicle rental                                                                    
tax.  Funds from  the account  were  spent on  a lag  basis,                                                                    
meaning  the legislature  used  funds  from previous  years'                                                                    
collections.  After the  amendment  there would  be over  $2                                                                    
million available in the fund.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  highlighted that if the  committee deducted                                                                    
$341,000, it would  be $341,000 that could  not go somewhere                                                                    
else.  He asked  Mr. Painter  about any  insight on  the net                                                                    
impact.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter responded that there  was an increase in vehicle                                                                    
rental collections  in FY  23 versus  the previous  year. He                                                                    
relayed that the  governor did not increase use  of the fund                                                                    
source  with the  increase  in  collections. Currently,  the                                                                    
additional amount would lapse to  the general fund. He noted                                                                    
that  the funding  could be  used in  the capital  budget or                                                                    
elsewhere;  it had  often been  used for  the Alaska  Travel                                                                    
Industry Association  (ATIA) grant,  which the  governor had                                                                    
funded  with undesignated  general  funds  (UGF). There  was                                                                    
currently  over $2  million available  from the  fund source                                                                    
based on the governor's budget.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:25:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe   highlighted   that   the   exact                                                                    
amendment had  passed in the committee  the previous session                                                                    
with vehicle  rental tax as  the fund source.  She explained                                                                    
that somehow  the fund  source had been  switched to  UGF in                                                                    
the other  body and  it had been  vetoed [by  the governor].                                                                    
She  thought it  sounded like  the increment  would make  it                                                                    
through if the  fund source remained as  vehicle rental tax.                                                                    
She noted that  a proposition that was  currently winning in                                                                    
Anchorage was to address the  roads to the trails; the state                                                                    
had to deal with the  trailheads. She elaborated that all of                                                                    
the  roads were  residential and  were limited  road service                                                                    
areas (LRSAs).  She explained that  people who lived  in the                                                                    
neighborhoods   paid   into   the   road   maintenance   and                                                                    
unfortunately, they  were paying for  all of the  traffic to                                                                    
the trailheads. She stated it  was unfair and it was wearing                                                                    
the roads  out much  faster than  necessary. The  bond would                                                                    
help support the road maintenance.  She was grateful for the                                                                    
increase  to  the  parks department;  however,  it  did  not                                                                    
guarantee  Chugach  Park  would receive  more  funding.  She                                                                    
noted that the parks department  had to deal with many areas                                                                    
that  did   not  make  much  revenue;   therefore,  she  was                                                                    
uncertain  the   increase  would  help  the   issue  in  her                                                                    
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  directed a question  to Representative                                                                    
Cronk  as  the  DNR  subcommittee chair.  He  asked  if  the                                                                    
particular request was considered by the subcommittee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk replied  that he  did not  believe the                                                                    
topic was considered in subcommittee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson asked if the  amendment included the access                                                                    
to Goldstar  Peak that went all  of the way to  Eagle River.                                                                    
She noted that Goldstar Peak was a well trafficked trail.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe answered that  the funds would go to                                                                    
the highest use  access points to the park.  She stated that                                                                    
her  district had  the highest  traffic, but  any access  to                                                                    
Chugach  Park through  Eagle River  and elsewhere  could use                                                                    
the funds.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being  NO  further  OBJECTION,  Amendment  N  72  was                                                                    
ADOPTED.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:29:09 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:41:34 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment N 73 (copy                                                                    
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Statewide Support                                                                                           
     Allocation:    Commissioner's Office                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Remove Funding for Department of Law RSA for                                                                     
     Criminal Division Attorneys                                                                                                
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: -418.2                                                                                                           
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous:      0.0                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund -418.2                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Remove additional funding for  an existing RSA with the                                                                    
     Department of Law for  two Criminal Division Attorneys.                                                                    
     The Department  of Law has  added three new  Attorney 5                                                                    
     positions  in  the  Criminal  Division  in  their  FY25                                                                    
     budget with associated funds.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe shared  that  she had  a couple  of                                                                    
amendments regarding the Department  of Public Safety (DPS).                                                                    
She  relayed that  she  had not  offered  the amendments  in                                                                    
subcommittee  because  she  had  needed  to  talk  with  the                                                                    
department and do more research.  She clarified that she was                                                                    
not  picking on  DPS, but  the department  had 968  budgeted                                                                    
positions. She  explained that  DPS had  a huge  budget with                                                                    
huge  increases, and  she wanted  to  make sure  all of  the                                                                    
requests were  absolutely necessary.  She found  some issues                                                                    
with some of the requests in the FY 25 budget request.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  explained that the amendment  was a                                                                    
decrement of  $418,000 to remove  additional funding  for an                                                                    
existing  RSA  [reimbursable  services agreement]  with  the                                                                    
Department   of  Law   (DOL)  for   two  Criminal   Division                                                                    
attorneys.  The department  had added  three new  attorney V                                                                    
positions in the Criminal Division  in its FY 25 budget with                                                                    
associated  funds. She  elaborated  that  the new  positions                                                                    
were  covered with  existing resources.  The department  had                                                                    
explained that  the cost had  been absorbed, but it  did not                                                                    
want  to absorb  the cost  any  longer. She  was asking  the                                                                    
department to continue to absorb the cost.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:44:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp stated his  understanding that under an                                                                    
RSA, DPS was  paying DOL attorneys for their  time. He asked                                                                    
for  verification that  Representative Coulombe  was arguing                                                                    
that the department  had been absorbing the  cost and should                                                                    
continue to do so.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin noted  that she  had spoken  with Mr.                                                                    
Painter  earlier  about  the absorbing  of  the  funds.  She                                                                    
appreciated the amendment and supported it.                                                                                     
Co-Chair Johnson thought it sounded like Representative                                                                         
Galvin had spoken with Mr. Painter and it had resolved her                                                                      
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin agreed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Galvin,    Hannan,    Ortiz,   Coulombe,    Stapp,                                                                    
Tomaszewski, Foster                                                                                                             
OPPOSED: Cronk, Edgmon, Johnson                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson was absent from the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (7/3). There being NO further OBJECTION,                                                                      
Amendment N 73 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Note: action on Amendment N 73 was rescinded at 2:39 p.m.                                                                      
and the amendment was adopted by a vote of 8/3.]                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:47:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe MOVED to ADOPT Amendment N 74 (copy                                                                     
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Alaska State Troopers                                                                                       
     Allocation:    AST Detachments                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Delete Funding Associated with Unfilled                                                                          
     Rural State Trooper Post                                                                                                   
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services:       0.0                                                                                               
     Travel:   -21.6                                                                                                            
     Services: -41.0                                                                                                            
     Commodities:   -7.2                                                                                                        
     Capital Outlay:     -17.4                                                                                                  
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous:      0.0                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund -87.2                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Removes  funding for  additional costs  associated with                                                                    
     an  unfilled  rural  Alaska State  Trooper  post.  This                                                                    
     position was added in FY2024  with full funding, but is                                                                    
     not  going  out to  bid  until  the fourth  quarter  of                                                                    
     CY2024.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  explained that the  amendment would                                                                    
delete  $87,200  for  additional costs  associated  with  an                                                                    
unfilled  rural Alaska  State Trooper  (AST) post.  She read                                                                    
the amendment  explanation above. She noted  that she wanted                                                                    
state troopers to have their  equipment. She elaborated that                                                                    
the specific position  was unfilled and would not  go out to                                                                    
bid until  towards the end of  the year. She stated  that if                                                                    
the position  was filled, the  department could  request the                                                                    
equipment cost  funding the following year.  She stated that                                                                    
the request was in anticipation of filling the position.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:48:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  observed  that when  the  state  was                                                                    
short on ASTs it meant  other troopers had to work overtime.                                                                    
She wanted  to ensure  there was  adequate funding  in order                                                                    
for that  to happen. She  wanted to make sure  the committee                                                                    
was  not lessening  opportunity for  the services  needed in                                                                    
public safety.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon opposed  the amendment.  He understood  the                                                                    
rationale being  offered; however,  the fiscal  year started                                                                    
on July  1 and  the fourth quarter  started September  1. He                                                                    
estimated it would be around  two months to get the position                                                                    
filled.  He  understood  DPS had  a  sizeable  vacancy  list                                                                    
currently. He noted that the  recruit population through the                                                                    
Sitka academy  had been  somewhat robust  over the  past few                                                                    
years,  but overall,  the  department was  losing  a lot  of                                                                    
senior  presence. He  stated that  getting  troopers out  in                                                                    
rural areas had  always been challenging, which  was tied to                                                                    
housing and other  factors. Given the unknowns  and the lack                                                                    
of ASTs in rural Alaska, he opposed the amendment.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  provided wrap up on  the amendment.                                                                    
She relayed that  there were currently 95  AST vacancies (18                                                                    
percent). She noted there was  quite a bit of vacancy money.                                                                    
She  did not  want  to hold  up  filling trooper  positions;                                                                    
however, the  position was  not going out  to bid  until the                                                                    
fourth  quarter. She  thought  it would  not necessarily  be                                                                    
filled quickly.  The amendment aimed to  be more responsible                                                                    
in terms  of when  the money was  released. She  referred to                                                                    
comment  about   overtime  and  reiterated  there   were  95                                                                    
positions open. She did not  think the one equipment request                                                                    
would hold anything  up. She stated it was  one position out                                                                    
of  a $320  million  budget and  she did  not  think it  was                                                                    
unreasonable to have DPS fill  the position and then request                                                                    
the funding.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:51:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Hannan, Coulombe, Stapp, Tomaszewski, Galvin                                                                          
OPPOSED: Ortiz, Cronk, Josephson, Edgmon, Foster, Johnson                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 74 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:53:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe WITHDREW  Amendment N  75 (copy  on                                                                    
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment N 76 (copy                                                                    
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Alaska State Troopers                                                                                       
     Allocation:    Aircraft Section                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Remove Funding for Aircraft Maintenance                                                                          
     Inspector                                                                                                                  
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items     (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                  
     Personal Services: -131.3                                                                                                  
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: -16.0                                                                                                            
     Commodities:   -1.0                                                                                                        
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     -1                                                                                                
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding   (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                       
     1004 Gen Fund -148.3                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Delete  Full-Time  Aircraft Maintenance  Inspector  and                                                                    
     start-up  costs. In  2022, the  Department reclassified                                                                    
     three Labor, Trades, and Crafts  (LTC) positions to add                                                                    
     additional   Aircraft   Maintenance   Inspectors.   The                                                                    
     Department uses a  vendor-based maintenance program for                                                                    
     its statewide  fleet, therefore the duties  of a fourth                                                                    
     Inspector should be performed with existing resources.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Alaska State Troopers                                                                                       
     Allocation:    Aircraft Section                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Remove   Funding  for   Aircraft  Maintenance                                                                    
     Inspector Start-up Costs                                                                                                   
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items     (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                  
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding   (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                       
     1004 Gen Fund -18.4                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Delete Full-Time Aircraft Maintenance Inspector start-                                                                     
     up costs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  explained that the amendment  was a                                                                    
decrement  of $148,000  to remove  funding  for a  full-time                                                                    
aircraft  maintenance  inspector   position  and  associated                                                                    
startup   costs.  She   elaborated  that   in  FY   22,  DPS                                                                    
reclassified three  labor, trades,  and crafts  positions to                                                                    
add additional  aircraft maintenance inspectors.  She stated                                                                    
that the department used  a vendor-based maintenance program                                                                    
for its statewide  fleet; therefore, the duties  of a fourth                                                                    
inspector should  be performed with existing  resources. She                                                                    
believed  one of  the reclassed  positions was  still vacant                                                                    
and DPS used contracts to fill  in the gaps. She thought the                                                                    
department  should fill  its existing  positions first.  She                                                                    
suggested  that  if  the  positions   were  filled  and  the                                                                    
department  was using  contracts  and still  felt there  was                                                                    
enough work to be done,  the issue could be addressed later.                                                                    
She was weary of adding PCNs when there were vacancies.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:55:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz   asked  if   there  was   any  direct                                                                    
communication  with DPS  about any  potential impact  on the                                                                    
safety of  troopers if  the position was  not filled  in the                                                                    
long-term.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  thought it  seemed the  amendment was                                                                    
getting  into  the weeds  and  deciding  what DPS  decisions                                                                    
should and should  not be. She wondered if  the action would                                                                    
send  the message  that  the legislature  did  not want  the                                                                    
positions filled.  In general,  there was  a great  need for                                                                    
public safety. She was hesitant  to support the amendment if                                                                    
the DPS commissioner recommended the position.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  thought the  argument  made  sense and  he                                                                    
understood  the rationale;  however,  he  was very  hesitant                                                                    
when it came to aircraft safety  to make a reduction. He did                                                                    
not know  what the  department's argument  would be,  but he                                                                    
would rather  fall on  the side  of caution.  He highlighted                                                                    
that there had  recently been a loss of state  workers in an                                                                    
aviation accident.  He noted  that sometimes  accidents were                                                                    
related to  mechanical, weather,  or other things.  He would                                                                    
rather  fall on  the side  of caution  and would  oppose the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:57:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon   spoke  to  the  importance   of  aircraft                                                                    
maintenance  and stated  that  the aviation  industry was  a                                                                    
vital  link for  residents living  off the  road system.  He                                                                    
preferred  to  be on  the  side  of  caution and  would  not                                                                    
support the amendment.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski asked  how  much the  department                                                                    
spent on the vendor-based program.  He asked if the position                                                                    
would reduce the costs by more than the position cost.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson remarked that  it always made her concerned                                                                    
when looking  at reducing funding for  aircraft maintenance;                                                                    
however, she found  the existing vacancies in  the area more                                                                    
worrisome. She  reasoned that having  the position  in place                                                                    
[but unfilled]  would not improve aircraft  maintenance. She                                                                    
was  inclined  to  support the  amendment.  She  highlighted                                                                    
items that  had been added  to DPS including a  new airplane                                                                    
and pilot.  She stated that  DPS had requested  numerous new                                                                    
positions,  which were  fairly high  paying. She  thought it                                                                    
may  mean  more  maintenance   positions  were  needed.  She                                                                    
highlighted that there were many  good aircraft mechanics in                                                                    
the private  sector around  the state.  She believed  it was                                                                    
how DPS  filled in  its maintenance already.  She considered                                                                    
whether there  needed to  be people  on state  payroll doing                                                                    
maintenance or if  it was better to  have private businesses                                                                    
in place.  She thought it  was a  good question for  DPS and                                                                    
she would like to hear  from the department. She anticipated                                                                    
the committee  may see the  request the following  year. She                                                                    
hoped  the department  would fill  its existing  maintenance                                                                    
positions and  come back the  following year to  explain why                                                                    
the  additional  position  was  needed.  She  supported  the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  clarified that she was  not against                                                                    
aircraft maintenance,  and it was  not the intention  of the                                                                    
amendment. She explained that the  amendment was about being                                                                    
responsible  in the  timing of  requests and  filling vacant                                                                    
positions.   She  detailed   that  DPS   had  two   aircraft                                                                    
maintenance  inspectors  stationed   in  Anchorage  and  the                                                                    
requested funding  would add a third  inspector in Fairbanks                                                                    
to meet the  agency's workload. She noted  that the previous                                                                    
year,  DPS   added  an  aircraft  maintenance   position  in                                                                    
Fairbanks, but it was where  some of the vacancies were. She                                                                    
thought the  department should fill its  vacant positions in                                                                    
Fairbanks prior  to requesting  an additional  position. She                                                                    
recalled hearing  in subcommittee  that Fairbanks was  a hub                                                                    
for many  rural areas,  so it was  important that  they have                                                                    
the  positions, but  they were  relying  heavily on  vendors                                                                    
because the positions had not  been filled. She did not know                                                                    
the cost of  the vendors, but surmised it  was likely higher                                                                    
than  normal. She  would support  an additional  position in                                                                    
the future  if the department filled  its existing positions                                                                    
and still needed another.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Coulombe, Stapp, Tomaszewski, Hannan, Johnson                                                                         
OPPOSED: Josephson, Ortiz, Cronk, Galvin, Edgmon, Foster                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 76 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:05:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment N 77 (copy                                                                    
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Statewide Support                                                                                           
     Allocation:    Commissioner's Office                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Remove    Funding   for    Criminal   Justice                                                                    
     Technician 2                                                                                                               
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items     (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                  
     Personal Services: -110.0                                                                                                  
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: -31.0                                                                                                            
     Commodities:   -1.0                                                                                                        
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     1                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding   (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                       
     1004 Gen Fund -142.0                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Delete  one  full-time  Criminal Justice  Technician  2                                                                    
     position.  The Department  is requesting  this position                                                                    
     for  the Mobile  Audio  and  Video Recording  Equipment                                                                    
     team to  assist with  public records  requests relating                                                                    
     to body-worn cameras.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     In  FY24, the  Legislature appropriated  $471.1 to  add                                                                    
     four  full-time   positions  to  increase   the  Public                                                                    
     Information Office staff  related specifically to body-                                                                    
     worn  cameras.  The  mid-year  status  report  for  the                                                                    
     Department states  that they have not  yet filled these                                                                    
     positions.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Statewide Support                                                                                           
     Allocation:    Commissioner's Office                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Remove    Funding   for    Criminal   Justice                                                                    
     Technician 2 Start-up Costs                                                                                                
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
     Line Items     (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                  
     Personal Services: 0.0 Travel:     0.0                                                                                     
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding   (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                       
     1004 Gen Fund -18.4                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Delete one full-time Criminal Justice Technician 2                                                                         
     position start-up costs.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  explained   the  amendment  was  a                                                                    
reduction  of $142,000  plus funding  for position  start-up                                                                    
costs.  The amendment  would delete  one full-time  criminal                                                                    
justice  technician  2  position.   She  detailed  that  DPS                                                                    
requested  the position  for the  mobile,  audio, and  video                                                                    
recording  equipment  team  to assist  with  public  records                                                                    
requests related to body worn  cameras. She detailed that in                                                                    
FY  24, the  legislature appropriated  $471,000 to  add four                                                                    
full-time  positions  to  increase  the  public  information                                                                    
office staff related specifically  to body worn cameras. The                                                                    
department's mid-year  status report  stated it had  not yet                                                                    
filled  the positions.  She understood  there were  a larger                                                                    
number  of information  requests associated  with body  worn                                                                    
cameras and it took more  people to fulfil the requests. She                                                                    
explained  that the  department had  submitted the  position                                                                    
request  with  the  anticipation  it would  be  needed.  She                                                                    
pointed  out   that  funding   had  been   appropriated  for                                                                    
positions  that  had  not yet  been  filled.  She  suggested                                                                    
filling  those  positions  before requesting  an  additional                                                                    
one. She believed the legislature  would approve the request                                                                    
the following year if the other positions had been filled.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Edgmon  commended   the  amendment   sponsor  and                                                                    
acknowledged  it  was  not  easy to  put  cuts  forward.  He                                                                    
thought  the amendment  highlighted the  difficulty agencies                                                                    
were  having   filling  positions  and  the   difficulty  in                                                                    
budgeting for  the positions departments  needed and  had to                                                                    
keep recruiting for. He thought  the department likely would                                                                    
not have  made the  budget request if  the position  was not                                                                    
needed   because  the   Dunleavy   administration  and   the                                                                    
legislature  were  all  looking for  agency  reductions.  He                                                                    
added  that  overall,  the  governor's  budget  included  an                                                                    
agency  reduction   of  approximately  4  percent.   He  was                                                                    
hesitant  to  select  a  position to  cut.  He  thought  the                                                                    
department was  likely aggressively  recruiting to  fill the                                                                    
position. He would oppose the amendment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:08:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan shared that she  had served on the DPS                                                                    
subcommittee  for  six  years.   She  highlighted  that  the                                                                    
department had seen significant growth  and there had been a                                                                    
lot of  vacancies in a  variety of  its sections. She  had a                                                                    
variety  of concerns  about a  prior amendment  (Amendment N                                                                    
18)  offered   earlier  in  the  process   that  would  have                                                                    
eliminated long-term empty positions.  She was supportive of                                                                    
the current  amendment because she  viewed it as  a surgical                                                                    
approach by the  chair. She recollected that  in addition to                                                                    
the four positions funded in FY  24, there was a request for                                                                    
two  more  positions, which  would  result  in six  unfilled                                                                    
positions related  to body worn  cameras. She  reasoned that                                                                    
once  body   worn  cameras  were  used,   it  would  require                                                                    
additional DPS  staff. She thought  it made sense to  wait a                                                                    
year until four of the  positions were filled and the office                                                                    
was  operational prior  to adding  two  more positions.  The                                                                    
position  requests were  in anticipation  there  would be  a                                                                    
substantial  need for  processing and  storing data  once it                                                                    
was used by the public and criminal prosecution.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin thought  the  amendment proposed  the                                                                    
deletion of  one position.  She asked if  it deleted  one or                                                                    
two positions.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  clarified  that  the  department's                                                                    
request   was  to   add  one   full-time  criminal   justice                                                                    
technician 2. The legislature  appropriated funding for four                                                                    
of the positions in FY  24. She explained that the amendment                                                                    
denied the  request for an  additional position and  did not                                                                    
cut  an existing  position.  She  understood the  department                                                                    
would need  to fulfil  the public information  requests. She                                                                    
thought the  current vacancies should  be filled  before the                                                                    
department   requested  more.   She  highlighted   that  the                                                                    
department  had 165  vacancies and  any  of those  positions                                                                    
could  be  reclassed  to  fill its  needs  if  an  emergency                                                                    
situation arose.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Oritz,   Coulombe,   Cronk,  Stapp,   Tomaszewski,                                                                    
Galvin, Hannan, Johnson                                                                                                         
OPPOSED: Josephson, Edgmon, Foster                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (8/3). There being  NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
Amendment N 77 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:12:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe WITHDREW Amendment N 78 (copy on                                                                        
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe MOVED to ADOPT Amendment N 79 (copy                                                                     
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Alaska State Troopers                                                                                       
     Allocation:    AST Detachments                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Retention   Initiative  to   Fund  Relocation                                                                    
     Costs for Alaska State Troopers.                                                                                           
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items     (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                  
     Personal Services:       0.0                                                                                               
     Travel:   -400.0                                                                                                           
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding   (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                       
     1004 Gen Fund -400.0                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Delete  funding  for  Alaska State  Trooper  relocation                                                                    
     costs  related  to   tax  liabilities.  The  Department                                                                    
     states that it will enter  into Letters of Agreement to                                                                    
     cover  airfare, temporary  lodging,  and packaging  and                                                                    
     shipping of  household goods. While the  Department may                                                                    
     cover these costs, it is  unnecessary to also cover the                                                                    
     tax liability associated with a benefit of employment.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Alaska State Troopers                                                                                       
     Allocation:    AST Detachments                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Retention   Initiative  to   Fund  Relocation                                                                    
     Costs of Wildlife Troopers.                                                                                                
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items     (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                  
     Personal Services:       0.0                                                                                               
     Travel:   -37.5                                                                                                            
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding   (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                       
     1004 Gen Fund -37.5                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Delete  funding for  Wildlife Trooper  relocation costs                                                                    
     related to tax liabilities.  The Department states that                                                                    
     it  will  enter  into  Letters of  Agreement  to  cover                                                                    
     airfare, temporary lodging,  and packaging and shipping                                                                    
     of  household goods.  While  the  Department may  cover                                                                    
     these costs,  it is unnecessary  to also cover  the tax                                                                    
    liability associated with a benefit of employment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  explained   the  amendment  was  a                                                                    
decrement of  $400,000 to delete funding  for AST relocation                                                                    
costs  related to  tax liabilities.  She read  the amendment                                                                    
explanation above.  The second  page of the  amendment would                                                                    
delete $37,500 for Alaska  Wildlife Trooper (AWT) relocation                                                                    
costs  related to  tax liabilities.  She  recognized it  was                                                                    
important for the  state to cover the cost  of relocation to                                                                    
get troopers in  position. She took issue  with covering the                                                                    
taxes associated  with relocation  costs. She  detailed that                                                                    
there  were 530  AST positions  and 129  AWT positions.  She                                                                    
remarked that  it was  costing the  state $400,000  to cover                                                                    
AST relocation  taxes. She  did not  think paying  the taxes                                                                    
seemed like  a huge burden  to the troopers.  She apologized                                                                    
for  using  the word  "unnecessary"  in  the amendment.  She                                                                    
questioned  whether the  state  should be  covering the  tax                                                                    
portion  because  everything   else  was  covered  including                                                                    
housing,   equipment,  and   other  items   listed  in   the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:15:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin opposed  the amendment.  She believed                                                                    
whatever  the  state  could  do  to  bring  in  and  attract                                                                    
troopers needed to remain in  place. She understood that the                                                                    
state had  already done many  things including  bonuses. She                                                                    
highlighted that  taxes could cost  up to 40 percent  of the                                                                    
relocation cost,  which could  be a heavy  burden for  a new                                                                    
trooper.  She considered  that covering  the taxes  could be                                                                    
quite a benefit and attractive to new troopers.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp   thought  he   would  likely   be  in                                                                    
opposition to the  amendment. He thought it  appeared that a                                                                    
state  trooper  would  pay  out   of  pocket  and  would  be                                                                    
reimbursed  by the  state for  the expenses  (e.g., airfare,                                                                    
hotel stay, packaging and shipping  of goods). He considered                                                                    
that potentially an  individual moving for the  job would be                                                                    
coming from a state with a  high sales tax and would have to                                                                    
pay sales  tax on top of  the movers. He considered  that at                                                                    
the end  of the year,  in theory, the individual  would have                                                                    
to pay  tax on the cost.  He thought the budget  item looked                                                                    
like  an  incentive  for   recruitment.  Given  the  trooper                                                                    
shortage, he  did not think  he would support  the reduction                                                                    
in what appeared  to be a clear incentive  structure to hire                                                                    
people.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe agreed  that  the  comments were  a                                                                    
valid argument.  She noted  that her  intention had  been to                                                                    
bring the  amendment forward in  order to discuss  the topic                                                                    
with the  committee. She understood  there was  an incentive                                                                    
piece. She did not have a  list of all the trooper costs and                                                                    
what the  amendment would impact.  She WITHDREW  Amendment N                                                                    
79.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  highlighted that  the last  five amendments                                                                    
were all to the one agency  that he thought had received the                                                                    
most  funding  in  the  past   six  years  of  the  Dunleavy                                                                    
administration and it underscored  the dire issue Alaska was                                                                    
facing  with  state positions.  He  found  it troubling.  He                                                                    
viewed the last five amendments  as "a microcosm of where we                                                                    
are at as a state."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:19:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment N 80 (copy                                                                    
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Victim Services                                                                                             
     Allocation:    Victim Services Admin & Support                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Remove Funding for Administrative Assistant                                                                      
     1 Position Start-up Costs                                                                                                  
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items     (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                  
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities:   -18.4                                                                                                       
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding   (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                       
     1004 Gen Fund -18.4                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Remove start-up costs associated with funding for a                                                                        
     full-time Administrative Assistant 1 position.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Victim Services                                                                                             
     Allocation:    Victim Services Admin & Support                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Remove Funding for Administrative Assistant                                                                      
     1 Position                                                                                                                 
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items     (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                  
     Personal Services: -92.3                                                                                                   
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: -16.0                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding   (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                       
     1004 Gen Fund -109.3                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Remove   funding   for   a   full-time   Administrative                                                                    
     Assistant   1  position.   The  new   Victims  Services                                                                    
     Division's  Council  on  Domestic Violence  and  Sexual                                                                    
     Assault's  organizational  chart   currently  lists  an                                                                    
     Administrative   Officer   2  and   an   Administrative                                                                    
     Assistant   2.   In   addition,  the   Violent   Crimes                                                                    
     Compensation Board lists  an Administrative Officer and                                                                    
     an  Administrative Assistant  3.  Finally, the  Victims                                                                    
     Services Administration  and Support component  has one                                                                    
     Administrative Assistant  2. The new division  has been                                                                    
     stood  up,  and  the  duties  performed  by  the  three                                                                    
     combined components should  be streamlined and absorbed                                                                    
     by existing resources.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  believed  committee  members  were                                                                    
aware that  the DPS commissioner  was proposing to  create a                                                                    
Victims Services Division. She  detailed that the Council on                                                                    
Domestic  Violence  and  Sexual   Assault  (CDVSA)  and  the                                                                    
Violent  Crimes Compensation  Board (VCCB)  would be  housed                                                                    
under one  division. Associated with  the new  division, DPS                                                                    
was   requesting    two   paralegal   positions    and   two                                                                    
administrative  support positions.  She highlighted  that it                                                                    
took a while for a division  to meld, and she understood the                                                                    
division would  need some supports; however,  she wanted the                                                                    
money to go to  victims and did not want the  funds to go to                                                                    
a   large    administrative   cost.   She    supported   the                                                                    
commissioner's idea,  but in order  to do that  she believed                                                                    
there should be better  performance working with victims and                                                                    
more  money  going  to  victims.   The  amendment  left  the                                                                    
paralegal positions and  removed one administrative position                                                                    
for  $109,000 and  the associated  support for  $18,000. She                                                                    
highlighted  that  the  new  division  CDVSA  organizational                                                                    
chart currently  listed an administrative  officer 2  and an                                                                    
administrative  assistant 2.  Additionally,  VCCB listed  an                                                                    
administrative officer  and administrative assistant  3. She                                                                    
relayed that the victim  services administration and support                                                                    
component  had one  administrative assistant  2. She  stated                                                                    
that  the new  division had  been  stood up  and the  duties                                                                    
performed  by  the  three   combined  components  should  be                                                                    
streamlined and absorbed by existing resources.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:22:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin   understood  how   streamlining  was                                                                    
helpful  and she  also understood  the importance  of having                                                                    
staff. For  example, she leaned  heavily on admin  to figure                                                                    
out  why a  constituent  was not  receiving their  Permanent                                                                    
Fund Dividend, or when they needed  help with a food card or                                                                    
renters' rights. She wondered  if cutting the position would                                                                    
mean fewer people  services for victims. She  wanted to make                                                                    
sure the division had enough staff to operate well.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe replied that  she could not speak to                                                                    
how the  new division  would work.  She was  suggesting that                                                                    
there  were numerous  administrative assistant  positions in                                                                    
the  different agencies  going under  one  umbrella and  she                                                                    
believed the  department could  likely pull  one to  help at                                                                    
the top.  She stated that  the agencies' load  would lighten                                                                    
when they had someone at  the top assisting with duties. She                                                                    
highlighted that the  cost of the one  position was $109,000                                                                    
plus  another  $18,400 for  startup  costs.  She wanted  the                                                                    
victims'  services to  work.  She thought  that  if the  new                                                                    
division  hinged  on  the one  administrative  position,  it                                                                    
should  not  be a  new  division.  She  added that  the  new                                                                    
division also had  two paralegal positions to  help with the                                                                    
set up.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Coulombe,   Cronk,  Stapp,   Tomaszewski,  Hannan,                                                                    
Foster, Johnson                                                                                                                 
OPPOSED: Josephson, Ortiz, Galvin, Edgmon                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (7/4). There being  NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
Amendment N 80 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:27:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment N  81 (copy                                                                    
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Bundle Description                                                                                                         
     For  several  years  now the  Legislature  has  had  to                                                                    
     backfill  Council  on   Domestic  Violence  and  Sexual                                                                    
     Assault funding because of the  loss of federal Victims                                                                    
     of Crime Act funds. Most  of us are in strong agreement                                                                    
     on the  importance of CDVSA.  The time has come  to add                                                                    
     the shortfall  funding to  the base  budget so  that we                                                                    
     don't  have  to  revisit  the issue  every  year.  This                                                                    
     amendment removes  the $3.7 million  one-time increment                                                                    
     for CDVSA grants and then  restores the funds as a base                                                                    
     budget appropriation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Victim Services                                                                                             
     Allocation:    Domestic Viol/Sexual Assault                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Re-instating  the $3.7  Million for  CDVSA as                                                                    
     an Increment in the Base Budget                                                                                            
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     IncM                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items     (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                  
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   3,700.0                                                                                                          
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding   (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                       
     1004 Gen Fund 3,700.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Victim Services                                                                                             
     Allocation:    Domestic Viol/Sexual Assault                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Delete One-Time Increment for CDVSA with the                                                                     
    Intent to Add the Appropriation to the Base Budget                                                                          
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items     (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                  
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding   (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                       
     1004 Gen Fund -3,700.0                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  relayed that  the amendment  had zero                                                                    
cost. She  detailed that for several  years, the legislature                                                                    
had backfilled CDVSA funding because  of the loss of federal                                                                    
Victims  of Crime  Act (VOCA)  funds. She  stated there  was                                                                    
clear  and  strong legislative  support  for  CDVSA and  she                                                                    
believed  the time  had come  to move  the funding  into the                                                                    
base budget instead of a  one-year, one-time allocation. The                                                                    
amendment would take it out  of the one-time funding and put                                                                    
it into  the base budget.  The net cost was  currently zero.                                                                    
She urged support for the amendment.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:28:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp was  in opposition  to the  amendment,                                                                    
primarily  because there  was currently  legislation looking                                                                    
at  switching revenue  from a  different fund  source to  go                                                                    
into CDVSA. He stated it  was a substantial amount of money.                                                                    
He stated  that currently the  CDVSA funding was  a one-time                                                                    
increment,  but if  the separate  legislation passed,  there                                                                    
would be a different fund source  to pay for CDVSA. He hoped                                                                    
it would  be the  last time the  legislature had  to revisit                                                                    
domestic violence money.  He thought it was wiser  to go the                                                                    
route of the separate legislation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon supported the amendment  and believed it was                                                                    
a necessity  and beyond the definition  of well-deserved. He                                                                    
noted that  the bill, HB 162,  had yet to pass  and depended                                                                    
on the size  of the PFD every year. He  highlighted that the                                                                    
committee  had heard  from the  [Alaska Network  on Domestic                                                                    
Violence and  Sexual Assault] director Brenda  Stanfill that                                                                    
$3.7  million   was  less  than   it  would  cost   for  the                                                                    
organization to fulfill  all of its duties.  He believed the                                                                    
legislature owed  it to CDVSA  and victims to give  them the                                                                    
higher  priority.   He  reiterated   his  support   for  the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  stated   that  the  amendment  was                                                                    
tricky  for  her due  to  the  separate legislation  with  a                                                                    
different  fund   source.  She  pointed  out   that  putting                                                                    
something  in the  base budget  indicated  to the  recipient                                                                    
that they would  receive the funds every  year; however, she                                                                    
stated  that  with  appropriation   it  was  not  true.  She                                                                    
considered that  although they may  not necessarily  have to                                                                    
come back  every year to  keep the  funding in the  base, it                                                                    
would  be  a constant  battle  of  being certain  the  state                                                                    
government appropriated  the funding. She had  discussed the                                                                    
possibility of looking at different  sources of income other                                                                    
than state  government with CDVSA.  She remarked  that CDVSA                                                                    
always seemed to be the  first on the chopping block whether                                                                    
the  funds were  in  the base  or  one-time increments.  She                                                                    
recognized  that one-time  funding  was  worse. She  thought                                                                    
there were  other creative ways  to find funding  outside of                                                                    
state  government. She  supported the  funding and  the one-                                                                    
time increment, but  she believed it was  a bit disingenuous                                                                    
to say CDVSA would  be able to sit on its  laurels if it was                                                                    
in the  base. She remarked  that a future  legislature could                                                                    
put the  funding to another use  if they did not  view CDVSA                                                                    
as a  priority. She would  likely oppose the  amendment, but                                                                    
definitely supported funding  CDVSA for FY 25  and trying to                                                                    
find some stable solutions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  hoped he  did not imply  that CDVSA  sat on                                                                    
its laurels or anything of that nature.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe apologized for  her use of term. She                                                                    
clarified  that she  was trying  to say  that perhaps  CDVSA                                                                    
would feel  like their funding  was safe  [if it was  in the                                                                    
base budget].                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin strongly  supported the amendment. She                                                                    
shared  that  she  had  visited   many  women's  and  family                                                                    
shelters where  there had been  deep difficulties  in coming                                                                    
up with  funds. She agreed  that it  would be great  to find                                                                    
other  funding  sources;  however,  she  had  been  to  many                                                                    
fundraisers  and  had  personally  helped  to  raise  funds.                                                                    
Additionally,  federal funds  were  leveraged. She  stressed                                                                    
that one-time funding was worse  than putting funding in the                                                                    
base budget.  She thought putting  the item in the  base may                                                                    
help secure federal funds. She  thought it was a shame CDVSA                                                                    
had  to spend  so  much  energy on  fundraising  due to  the                                                                    
erratic nature of the funding.  She thought the state should                                                                    
do better and the amendment represented one step better.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:33:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson had some concern  about putting the funding                                                                    
in the base  without paying attention for at  least one more                                                                    
year to  find out the total  amount or what should  be done.                                                                    
She stated that  the one-time increment in the  FY 25 budget                                                                    
was the  amount for  the current  year. She  considered that                                                                    
maybe it was the right number  or maybe it was not the right                                                                    
number  [going  forward].  The   budget  included  the  full                                                                    
request from CDVSA for FY 25.  She preferred to see the one-                                                                    
time  increment remain  in the  budget with  an analysis  to                                                                    
find out  what the  number should  be. She  stated it  was a                                                                    
difficult vote to  take. She would stand by the  item in the                                                                    
budget  as  is  and   hoped  for  better  information  going                                                                    
forward. She  clarified that it  had nothing to do  with the                                                                    
work  provided by  CDVSA. She  noted there  were some  bills                                                                    
that were  pending, which  would change  some of  the things                                                                    
CDVSA  had to  do and  she  suspected the  funding would  be                                                                    
addressed in future bills as well.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  thanked members of the  committee for                                                                    
putting  the  money  in  the  budget.  She  highlighted  the                                                                    
committee  heard   hours  of  public  testimony   and  heard                                                                    
repeatedly  about  the  demands across  Alaska  for  ongoing                                                                    
service  needs  of  domestic  violence  and  sexual  assault                                                                    
shelters. She stated  it was a shame that it  was one of the                                                                    
places where  Alaska led  the nation.  She pointed  out that                                                                    
the problem was not easily  resolved and was not going away.                                                                    
She recognized  that putting something  in the base  did not                                                                    
change  that the  legislature could  always change  the fund                                                                    
source. She  hoped HB  162 passed  and that  the legislature                                                                    
would be  talking about extra  revenue because  she believed                                                                    
the  funding   was  far  below   where  it  should   be  for                                                                    
preventative programs. She noted  that the funding reflected                                                                    
the  full  request  by  CDVSA.  She  thought  most  domestic                                                                    
violence shelters  were used to  "bake saling" their  way to                                                                    
surviving  and  piecing  things together.  She  believed  it                                                                    
would always  be an obligation  of the state to  provide for                                                                    
that public  safety aspect. She  thought it was time  to put                                                                    
the funding in  the base so that at a  minimum it would save                                                                    
the  agency  from  having  to beg  for  grant  funding.  She                                                                    
suggested  they could  start  talking  about program  growth                                                                    
needs  and  prevention.  She  hoped there  was  a  point  in                                                                    
several years  where the legislature  was talking  about the                                                                    
absence  of a  need  for general  funds  because there  were                                                                    
funds  from  other  sources.  She   urged  support  for  the                                                                    
amendment. She  viewed it  as a  public safety  program that                                                                    
Alaska had an obligation to provide.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:37:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Cronk,    Galvin,   Hannan,    Josephson,   Ortiz,                                                                    
Coulombe, Edgmon, Foster                                                                                                        
OPPOSED: Stapp, Tomaszewski, Johnson                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (8/3). There being  NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
Amendment N 81 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:38:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  MOVED   to  RESCIND   action  on                                                                    
Amendment 73 (copy on file).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:39:08 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:39:58 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment N 73 (copy                                                                    
on file)[see 1:41 p.m. for amendment details].                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson stated that  he had heard about the                                                                    
other side of the issue  through the Department of Law (DOL)                                                                    
budget subcommittee. He  was told that the  positions at DPS                                                                    
would focus  on offering advice  on excessive use  of force,                                                                    
general  training,  contracts,  and issues  related  to  the                                                                    
enforcement of  the sex offender  registry. He wanted  to be                                                                    
on record opposing the amendment.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp clarified  that  the  amendment was  a                                                                    
reduction  in  the  money appropriated  for  a  reimbursable                                                                    
services  agreement  (RSA)  from  DPS to  DOL.  He  did  not                                                                    
believe  the amendment  would  cut  attorney positions.  The                                                                    
amendment sponsor explained that  the amendment would reduce                                                                    
a cost  the department had  been absorbing for  the purposes                                                                    
of the RSA.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe  did   not  have   any  additional                                                                    
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Coulombe,   Stapp,  Tomaszewski,   Hannan,  Ortiz,                                                                    
Galvin, Foster, Johnson                                                                                                         
OPPOSED: Cronk, Josephson, Edgmon                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (8/3). There being  NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
Amendment N 73 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:43:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  N  82                                                                    
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Victim Services                                                                                             
     Allocation:    Domestic Viol/Sexual Assault                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Additional One-Time Grant Support for the                                                                        
     Council on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault                                                                            
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     IncOTI                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   3,000.0                                                                                                          
     Miscellaneous:           0.0                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund 3,000.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Brenda Standfill testified March 25th that this                                                                            
     increment was necessary to CDVSA.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  highlighted  that  he  had  asked                                                                    
Brenda Stanfill  how much funding  CDVSA really needed  in a                                                                    
recent House Finance Committee meeting.  He relayed that her                                                                    
response had  been that the  agency needed an  additional $3                                                                    
million on top  of the requested $3.7 million.  He stated it                                                                    
was consistent  with the outcry  from the  domestic violence                                                                    
and  sexual assault  community. The  total amount  requested                                                                    
from  victim services  programs when  they applied  to CDVSA                                                                    
for FY  24 funding  was $3 million  more than  was available                                                                    
under   the   flat   funding  plan   appropriated   by   the                                                                    
legislature.  The individual  programs  asked  for what  was                                                                    
needed  to  keep  their doors  open  to  continue  emergency                                                                    
services.  He detailed  that allowing  the one-time  funding                                                                    
gave breathing room to keep  level services continuing in FY                                                                    
25,   while  seeking   additional  resources.   The  amounts                                                                    
included covered  child advocacy  center services.  He noted                                                                    
he had  offered a  previous amendment  to start  funding the                                                                    
services,  but it  was denied.  Additionally, the  amendment                                                                    
would fund domestic violence and  sexual assault services at                                                                    
just over $2.8 million.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  stated   that  the   $3  million                                                                    
included  child  abuse  advocacy centers  and  the  domestic                                                                    
violence shelters.  He noted it  was on  the low end  of the                                                                    
estimate.  He  highlighted  that  a  CDVSA  PowerPoint  from                                                                    
earlier  in the  session requested  almost $3.5  million. He                                                                    
                                               th                                                                               
relayed that Alaska Beacon reported on March  6  that Brenda                                                                    
Stanfill identified the funding gap  as 20 percent. He noted                                                                    
that the  budget covered  that amount.  He relayed  that she                                                                    
had  stated the  amendment would  restore the  funding level                                                                    
from the  previous year,  which the  entity recognized  as a                                                                    
cut due  to high  inflation rates.  The funds  would prevent                                                                    
the  closure  of  shelters and  reduction  of  programs.  He                                                                    
referenced another article by  Alaska Beacon on December 4th                                                                    
where  Diane Casto,  former director  of  ANDVSA had  stated                                                                    
that the  $5 million difference  was a significant  slice of                                                                    
the  council's funding.  She had  elaborated  that the  past                                                                    
year,  the council's  budget was  close to  $25 million  and                                                                    
nearly  $21 million  went to  grants. Ms.  Casto had  stated                                                                    
that the  loss was  exacerbated by inflation,  especially in                                                                    
remote  parts  of the  state.  He  stated that  the  council                                                                    
needed $2.6 million  just to inflation proof  the money that                                                                    
came from the  state's general fund. The $2.8  million was a                                                                    
recurring  expense,   but  the  amendment  was   a  one-time                                                                    
increment.  He   thought  the   amendment  would   give  the                                                                    
conference  committee some  flexibility  to  drive home  the                                                                    
best result. He asked for support.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:48:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  thought  the  amendment  was  the  perfect                                                                    
illustration about  why budgeting was an  imperfect process.                                                                    
He had  supported the past  couple of  amendments pertaining                                                                    
to CDVSA  including providing administrative support  in the                                                                    
department  and  to  put  funding in  the  base  budget.  He                                                                    
remarked that  at some point  tough choices had to  be made.                                                                    
While  he  appreciated  the  intent  of  the  amendment,  he                                                                    
reluctantly would vote in opposition.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  concurred with the comments  about the                                                                    
imperfect budget process and moving  forward with a workable                                                                    
budget.  However,  he  remarked  that  every  budget  was  a                                                                    
reflection  of where  the legislature's  priorities resided.                                                                    
He  highlighted  that  the committee  had  just  unanimously                                                                    
passed an amendment  to support the state  parks program. He                                                                    
thought the committee would want  to be supportive of CDVSA.                                                                    
He supported the amendment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson wanted  to be clear that the  money was not                                                                    
in the [original] budget. She  stated that the committee had                                                                    
received  the  request  and people  had  called  in  [during                                                                    
public  testimony].  The request  from  CDVSA  was for  $3.7                                                                    
million and  it had been  added to  the budget. She  did not                                                                    
expect to feel  a little beat up about it.  She was standing                                                                    
by the budget  and believed the increment  included was what                                                                    
had been requested to maintain  services and provide funding                                                                    
for a  shortfall. The budget  fully funded  CDVSA's request.                                                                    
She  opposed the  amendment. She  looked  forward to  having                                                                    
further conversations with Ms. Stanfill in the future.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk  stated that  every  vote  was a  hard                                                                    
vote.  He  noted that  he  had  not  been  on finance  as  a                                                                    
minority member  and did  not know how  that worked.  He did                                                                    
not appreciate how the votes  were prioritized because every                                                                    
vote  was hard  and impacted  someone's life  in one  way or                                                                    
another. He stated that if he  voted no on the amendment, it                                                                    
did not mean he deemed it to be unimportant.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  reiterated  the fact  that  the  item                                                                    
started  out  with  $3.7   million  in  additional  one-time                                                                    
funding and  there had been  an amendment  to put it  in the                                                                    
base budget. He stated that  the amendment asked for another                                                                    
$3  million.  He  did  not  appreciate  the  idea  that  the                                                                    
committee was not funding something  when the committee just                                                                    
passed  an amendment  to change  the length  of the  funding                                                                    
source to include it in the base.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:54:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  agreed that  all  of  the votes  were                                                                    
tough.  He  clarified  that  he had  been  speaking  to  the                                                                    
broader issue  and recognizing  that adopting  the amendment                                                                    
it  would reduce  the amount  of money  for things  like the                                                                    
PFD.  He was  comfortable with  that, and  he realized  that                                                                    
some  other  people  were  not. He  was  not  intending  any                                                                    
disrespect  to  any committee  members  on  their votes.  He                                                                    
elaborated that  every vote was  a statement  about choosing                                                                    
to do one  thing or another. He  personally felt comfortable                                                                    
with providing the funds in the amendment.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe considered  that when  dealing with                                                                    
shifting priorities it meant removing  funding from one item                                                                    
that  was  no longer  the  priority  and moving  funding  to                                                                    
another  item. She  stated that  when priorities  shifted it                                                                    
did not  mean continuing  to repeatedly  add funding  to the                                                                    
budget. She may  have been able to support  the amendment if                                                                    
there was a corresponding decrement.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Tomaszewski  stated   that  the   committee                                                                    
prioritized the funding by voting  to include the funding in                                                                    
the  base budget  instead  of as  a  one-time increment.  He                                                                    
remarked that now  there was an amendment  for an additional                                                                    
$3  million. He  found the  comments distasteful  indicating                                                                    
that the  item was  not a  priority. He  suggested committee                                                                    
members  should not  impugn the  motives of  other committee                                                                    
members. He  stated the  committee had  worked hard  and had                                                                    
included requested funding in the budget.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:57:02 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:57:44 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Josephson    thought    that    nonprofits                                                                    
strategized  on the  best approach  when requesting  funding                                                                    
from the legislature.  He had asked Ms.  Stanfill what CDVSA                                                                    
really needed and the amount  in the amendment reflected the                                                                    
answer.  Additionally,  Ms.  Casto  had  provided  the  same                                                                    
number. He asked for support for the amendment.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Ortiz, Josephson, Hannan, Galvin                                                                                      
OPPOSED:  Tomaszewski,   Stapp,  Cronk,   Coulombe,  Edgmon,                                                                    
Foster, Johnson                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 82 FAILED (4/7).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:59:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  N  83                                                                    
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Victim Services                                                                                             
     Allocation:    Domestic Viol/Sexual Assault                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Funding for Costs Related to Utilities                                                                           
     (FY2025-FY2026)                                                                                                            
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     IncT                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   500.0                                                                                                            
     Miscellaneous:           0.0                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund 500.0                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Operating costs  for the CDVSA  are flat funded  in the                                                                    
     FY25 budget. The past two  years, the CDVSA received an                                                                    
     appropriation  for these  costs but  that appropriation                                                                    
     has  ended. This  would provide  funding needed  to pay                                                                    
    for operating costs for the next two fiscal years.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  explained there was a  drop off in                                                                    
federal  Victims of  Crime Act  (VOCA) funding.  He detailed                                                                    
that VOCA  funds were related  to white collar  crime, which                                                                    
had decreased.  Consequently, there were fewer  federal VOCA                                                                    
dollars  available. Additionally,  COVID-19  funds had  been                                                                    
used  to  cover  some  of the  domestic  violence  network's                                                                    
costs.  He stated  that  things had  been  so desperate  for                                                                    
domestic  violence shelters  that  they  were worried  about                                                                    
paying  their  utility bills.  The  programs  had been  flat                                                                    
funded for  the past five  years. In  the FY 23  budget, the                                                                    
legislature appropriated  a one-time  amount of  $500,000 to                                                                    
assist  programs with  utility costs.  In FY  24, CDVSA  was                                                                    
able  to provide  utility assistance  one more  time through                                                                    
other funds in  its budget. In FY 25,  the victims' services                                                                    
programs were  currently in the  House budget at  the amount                                                                    
necessary for programs to be  flat funded, not including the                                                                    
additional  $500,000 dispersed  from CDVSA  during the  past                                                                    
two  years  for utility  increases.  The  increased cost  of                                                                    
utilities in  the 33 member organizations  exceeded $500,000                                                                    
in FY 23 and FY 24.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Ortiz, Hannan, Galvin, Josephson                                                                                      
OPPOSED:  Tomaszewski,   Coulombe,  Cronk,   Stapp,  Foster,                                                                    
Edgmon, Johnson                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 83 FAILED (4/7).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:03:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment N 84 (copy on                                                                    
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Public Safety                                                                                                    
     Appropriation: Victim Services                                                                                             
     Allocation:    Victim Services Admin & Support                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Add Intent                                                                                                       
     Wordage Type: Intent                                                                                                       
     Linkage: Agency - Public Safety                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Wordage                                                                                                                    
     It  is   the  intent   of  the  legislature   that  the                                                                    
     department, when  preparing its FY26  budget submission                                                                    
     to  the legislature,  consider  how  to maintain  Child                                                                    
     Advocacy Center (CAC) service in  regard to the loss of                                                                    
     federal Department of Justice funding.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     The  legislature  is  expressing  its  intent  for  the                                                                    
     administration  to recognize  the  importance of  Child                                                                    
     Advocacy  Center's in  their FY26  budget submittal  in                                                                    
     light  of  the  knowledge   that  the  current  federal                                                                    
     funding will be expiring.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk  explained  the  amendment  would  add                                                                    
intent language  to the budget.  He read the  wordage above.                                                                    
He detailed that the Alaska  Children's Alliance (ACA) was a                                                                    
statewide association  of the Child Advocacy  Centers, which                                                                    
were  multidisciplinary centers  providing law  enforcement,                                                                    
prosecutors,  tribal welfare  officials, and  social workers                                                                    
to   families  and   victims  in   cases   of  child   abuse                                                                    
investigations.  The  legislature  aimed to  assist  ACA  in                                                                    
raising red flags that three  of its federal funding streams                                                                    
were  in  jeopardy  of  running  out  in  FY  26,  including                                                                    
Temporary Assistance  for Needy  Families (TANF),  VOCA, and                                                                    
Department of Justice funds. The  organization had funds for                                                                    
FY 25, but the intent language highlighted to the                                                                               
administration that the funds would run out in FY 26.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster WITHDREW the OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                          
further OBJECTION, Amendment 84 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:04:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson MOVED to ADOPT Amendment N 85                                                                          
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Transportation                                                                                                   
     Appropriation: Highways/Aviation & Facilities                                                                              
     Allocation:    Stwd Contracted Snow Removal                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Improve Public Snow Removal Services                                                                             
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Inc                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 500.0                                                                                                            
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous:           0.0                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund 500.0                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     $915,000   is  currently   in  the   budget  for   this                                                                    
     allocation,  but  that  is  obviously  not  enough  for                                                                    
     statewide  services.   This  amendment   increases  the                                                                    
     appropriation by almost 50%.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson highlighted  that  the past  three                                                                    
years had  experienced higher than usual  snowfall in Juneau                                                                    
and Anchorage. The amendment was  designed to allow for more                                                                    
statewide contracted snow removal.  He noted that Department                                                                    
of Transportation  and Public Facilities  (DOT) Commissioner                                                                    
Ryan Anderson  had been asked  about snow by both  bodies in                                                                    
February.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:06:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  thought the $500,000 would  fit Dillingham.                                                                    
He  corrected that  the House  Finance  Committee had  heard                                                                    
from the  deputy commissioner Katherine Keith  and two other                                                                    
department employees. He did not  believe the overall effort                                                                    
from DOT was  adequate in terms of providing  a strategy and                                                                    
gearing up to properly address  the amount of snow. He would                                                                    
vote against the amendment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin supported  the  amendment. She  noted                                                                    
that she resided in the  same town as the amendment sponsor.                                                                    
She understood that  other towns had done  okay moving snow,                                                                    
but  legislators had  learned  that more  than  half of  the                                                                    
state  graters in  Anchorage were  broken. She  had received                                                                    
hundreds of emails and phone  calls about the snow problems.                                                                    
She noted that  some of the roads were taken  care of by the                                                                    
city  and  others were  taken  care  of  by the  state.  She                                                                    
believed  there   had  been   a  lack   of  funds   to  hire                                                                    
contractors, a lack  of funds to fix the  equipment, or lack                                                                    
of  choosing  to use  the  funds  correctly. She  wanted  to                                                                    
ensure there were funds available  if there was another high                                                                    
snow year.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  stated that she lived  in Anchorage                                                                    
and was fully aware of  its snow removal issues. She relayed                                                                    
that  she had  been in  several  meetings with  DOT and  the                                                                    
department was not requesting the  money [put forward in the                                                                    
amendment]. She  remarked that the  committee had  asked DOT                                                                    
what  it   needed  from  the  legislature   to  improve  the                                                                    
situation;  however, the  department  did not  have a  clear                                                                    
strategy for  Anchorage. She  highlighted that  changing the                                                                    
priority status  of the  roads in  her district  and getting                                                                    
off  of  the contracting  plan  for  the Anchorage  hillside                                                                    
(that had failed  miserably) would make a  difference in her                                                                    
district.  She stated  that those  two things  did not  cost                                                                    
money but had  cost her a lot  of time and effort  to try to                                                                    
fix. She believed  when there was a problem like  the one at                                                                    
hand, it was a  gut instinct to try to throw  money at it to                                                                    
try  to  fix it.  She  did  not  believe the  amendment  was                                                                    
particularly focused on Southcentral.  She asked the sponsor                                                                    
if  the funding  would go  into the  base budget.  She would                                                                    
support  the  amendment  if  she  believed  it  would  solve                                                                    
Anchorage's  problems, but  she  did not  think  it was  the                                                                    
targeted approach that was needed to correct the issue.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:11:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp opposed the  amendment. He noted he did                                                                    
not live in  Anchorage. He looked at  the amendment language                                                                    
stating  the funds  would be  for statewide  contracted snow                                                                    
removal, which he  viewed to mean outsourcing  the work from                                                                    
state employees to contractors.  He thought the practice was                                                                    
generally fine, but he did not  think the state needed to do                                                                    
more of that. He thought the  department had done a good job                                                                    
in the  northern region in  Fairbanks had done  an excellent                                                                    
job  at   snow  removal.   He  was  uncertain   whether  the                                                                    
appropriation  would  help  what happened  in  Southcentral.                                                                    
Additionally,  there was  no decrement  to  balance out  the                                                                    
increase.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  relayed   that  the  particular                                                                    
allocation   had   been   discussed  in   subcommittee.   He                                                                    
elaborated that DOT  had indicated the ~$900,000  in the DOT                                                                    
budget for the particular line  item would be sufficient. He                                                                    
believed  the department  had other  sources as  back up  if                                                                    
more money was needed. He opposed the amendment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  noted  that   DOT  had  come  before  the                                                                    
committee  and the  committee had  asked  if the  department                                                                    
needed  more  money  to address  snow  removal  issues.  She                                                                    
relayed that  the department had  told the committee  it did                                                                    
not need  more money. She  elaborated that funding  had been                                                                    
provided for emergency snowplowing  the previous year due to                                                                    
heavy snowfall.  She had  asked the  department how  much of                                                                    
the funding  had been spent  out of the  amount appropriated                                                                    
for emergency plowing services.  The department had told the                                                                    
committee that  it did  not know. She  had learned  that the                                                                    
department  had not  spent down  the funding.  There was  $3                                                                    
million left  from the  previous capital  appropriation. She                                                                    
stated that  sometimes it was  not about how much  money, it                                                                    
was about getting  out there, doing the job,  and getting it                                                                    
done. She felt  mad knowing there was $3  million in funding                                                                    
available  and  the  roads  had not  been  plowed  the  past                                                                    
winter. She  was unwilling  to appropriate  more money  to a                                                                    
fund for the department to not plow the roads.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  remarked  that  the  committee  had  added                                                                    
intent  language  in  other provisions  in  the  budget.  He                                                                    
considered  why  the  committee should  not  include  intent                                                                    
language asking  DOT to  develop a  specific plan  to tackle                                                                    
the problem head on. He  was not satisfied with the approach                                                                    
DOT took when  it presented to the  committee. He recognized                                                                    
the  problem  in  Anchorage;  however,   he  felt  like  the                                                                    
amendment was well intentioned but  a piecemeal approach. He                                                                    
requested to take a break to craft some language.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:15:35 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:22:07 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson stated  that the committee had  left off on                                                                    
Amendment N 85.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   MOVED   to   ADOPT   conceptual                                                                    
Amendment 1 to  Amendment N 85 (copy on  file). He explained                                                                    
that the  conceptual amendment would delete  the entirety of                                                                    
the amendment and replace it with the conceptual amendment:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Transportation                                                                           
    APPROPRIATION:      Highways/Aviation & Facilities                                                                          
     ALLOCATION:         Stwd Contracted Snow Removal                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     INTENT:   It is the intent  of the Legislature that the                                                                    
     Department  of  Transportation  and  Public  Facilities                                                                    
     shall  submit  a  report regarding  a  state-wide  snow                                                                    
     removal  plan  by  December 20,  2024,  and  provide  a                                                                    
     presentation to the Finance  committees during the next                                                                    
     legislative   session.   This   plan   should   include                                                                    
     strategies to effectively remove  snow from streets and                                                                    
     sidewalks in  a timely  manner, including  the purchase                                                                    
     and  maintenance of  equipment,  salary increases,  and                                                                    
     methods to ensure public services remain operational.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  asked Representative Josephson  to explain                                                                    
the intent  language. She acknowledged Senator  Click Bishop                                                                    
in the room.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson read the intent language above.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:24:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon OBJECTED  for  discussion.  He thought  the                                                                    
second  sentence of  the intent  language  had a  "statewide                                                                    
sort  of feel  to it."  He  asked if  it was  Representative                                                                    
Josephson's intent to make it statewide in scope.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson responded affirmatively.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz asked if there  would be an emphasis in                                                                    
Ketchikan.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin referenced  the  language "to  ensure                                                                    
public  services   remain  operational."  She   assumed  the                                                                    
language was  referring to ensuring schools  remain open and                                                                    
operational.  She  thought  it perhaps  applied  to  private                                                                    
businesses as well. She highlighted  that Anchorage had lost                                                                    
a  whole  week  of  school  over  the  current  winter.  She                                                                    
commented  on that  on a  Monday it  had been  known schools                                                                    
would  be closed  the entire  week because  of a  lack of  a                                                                    
strategy,  equipment,  or  something  else.  She  asked  the                                                                    
sponsor to clarify  what he meant by  public services during                                                                    
wrap up  on the  amendment. She had  heard from  many people                                                                    
that getting down Northern Lights  Boulevard was tricky. She                                                                    
stated it should never be the case.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  remarked  that  it  had  been  more  than                                                                    
tricky,  and it  had nearly  destroyed her  four-wheel drive                                                                    
car.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:26:03 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:27:35 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson MOVED  a  conceptual amendment  to                                                                    
conceptual  Amendment 1  to Amendment  N  85. The  amendment                                                                    
would insert the language "report  made to the Chairs of the                                                                    
Finance Committees  and Legislative Finance  Division" after                                                                    
the  words "December  20, 2024."  The  amendment would  also                                                                    
include  the   words  "(schools,  private   businesses,  and                                                                    
hospitals)" after the words "public services."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
There  being  NO  OBJECTION,  the  conceptual  amendment  to                                                                    
conceptual Amendment 1 was ADOPTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  asked if  there  were  any objections  to                                                                    
conceptual Amendment 1 as amended.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
There  being   NO  OBJECTION,  conceptual  Amendment   1  to                                                                    
Amendment N 85 was ADOPTED as amended.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk  wanted to make sure  the committee was                                                                    
not expecting a  miracle. He stated that  snow removal crews                                                                    
could only work  so many hours before being  done. He stated                                                                    
that  snow removal  operations  would not  occur  on a  24/7                                                                    
basis.  He understood  the  intent. He  noted  there were  a                                                                    
limited number  of workers and  there were not  backup crews                                                                    
in  the wings  to  take  over. He  wanted  to  be clear  the                                                                    
committee was not expecting a  miracle, but it was expecting                                                                    
improvement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  asked Representative Josephson  to provide                                                                    
wrap up and a review of the amendment.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson explained  that the amendment would                                                                    
include intent  language in the budget.  The intent language                                                                    
called for  DOT to  prepare a report  on December  20, 2024,                                                                    
that reflected  a serious effort to  respond to legislators'                                                                    
dismay  and unhappiness  connected  to snow  removal in  the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk  WITHDREW his OBJECTION to  Amendment N                                                                    
85 as amended.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
There  being  NO  further  OBJECTION,  Amendment  N  85  was                                                                    
ADOPTED as amended.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:31:52 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:33:36 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson WITHDREW  Amendments N  86, N  87,                                                                    
and N 88 (copy on file).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:34:29 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:34:41 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  N  89                                                                    
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   University of Alaska                                                                                             
     Appropriation: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     Allocation:    Systemwide Reduction/Additions                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    University of Alaska Indigenous Student                                                                          
     Support                                                                                                                    
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Inc                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous:      2,021.3                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     11                                                                                                
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund 1,146.0                                                                                                      
     1048 Univ Rcpt 875.3                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Indigenous Student Support and Leadership: Improve                                                                         
     indigenous student support and leadership.                                                                                 
     UAA Supporting Alaska's Future Workforce                                                                                   
     UAF Indigenous Leadership, Humanities and Social                                                                           
     Science                                                                                                                    
     UAS Advancing Graduation Rates and Workforce Entry by                                                                      
     Strengthening the Knowledge and Teaching of Indigenous                                                                     
     Culture                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  stated  that the  committee  when                                                                    
acting  as  subcommittee  of  the  whole  had  rejected  the                                                                    
amendment  30  days  earlier; however,  the  updated  spring                                                                    
forecast had come out since  that time, which suggested $150                                                                    
million in  additional revenue spanning  the 18  months. The                                                                    
amendment  reflected   a  University  of  Alaska   Board  of                                                                    
Regent's request.  He noted that  almost all of  the regents                                                                    
had been selected by Governor  Dunleavy. The amendment would                                                                    
offer  indigenous  student  support and  leadership  at  the                                                                    
University  of  Alaska  Anchorage (UAA).  Additionally,  the                                                                    
amendment would provide funding  for UAA Supporting Alaska's                                                                    
Future  Workforce,  University  of  Alaska  Fairbanks  (UAF)                                                                    
Indigenous  Leadership, Humanities  and Social  Science, and                                                                    
University  of Alaska  Southeast (UAS)  Advancing Graduation                                                                    
Rates  and Workforce  Entry by  Strengthening the  Knowledge                                                                    
and  Teaching  of Indigenous  Culture.  He  stated that  the                                                                    
amendment  would   benefit  each   of  the   major  regional                                                                    
campuses. He asked for members' support.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  was  in  support  of  the  amendment                                                                    
because  she believed  it dovetailed  closely and  supported                                                                    
UAF's R1  efforts. She  highlighted that  indigenous studies                                                                    
programs   were  one   of  the   areas   of  growing   Ph.D.                                                                    
opportunities.  She   detailed  that  Ph.D.   programs  were                                                                    
available  at UAF  but the  feeder colleges  at UAF  and UAA                                                                    
offered cohorts  of indigenous programs  that could  lead to                                                                    
Ph.D. programs  in a fairly quick  progression. She believed                                                                    
the support would help and enhance R1 efforts.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:37:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon called the question on the amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Galvin, Hannan, Josephson, Ortiz, Foster                                                                              
OPPOSED:  Stapp,   Tomaszewski,  Coulombe,   Cronk,  Edgmon,                                                                    
Johnson                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 89 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:38:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  stated  that  she  would  not  offer                                                                    
Amendment 90 at the current time.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment N  91 (copy                                                                    
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   University of Alaska                                                                                             
     Appropriation: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     Allocation:    Anchorage Campus                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Improve Campus Public Safety and Physical                                                                        
     Security at UAA                                                                                                            
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Inc                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 1,020.0                                                                                                 
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous:           0.0                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     6                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund 1,020.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin   explained  the   amendment   would                                                                    
increase  funding for  UAA public  safety and  mental health                                                                    
response   capacity  at   UAA  and   Southcentral  community                                                                    
campuses  including   Kenai  and  Mat-Su.  The   UAA  police                                                                    
department (UPD) provided safety  and crisis response in the                                                                    
Anchorage U-Med  District including the UAA  campus. The UPD                                                                    
responded  to over  21,000  calls  annually including  major                                                                    
incidents  relating   to  mental  health,   drugs,  property                                                                    
crimes,  and weapon  assaults.  She  elaborated that  public                                                                    
safety  issues  were  increasing sharply,  and  funding  was                                                                    
needed  to ensure  student safety.  The  amendment was  also                                                                    
found in the red book  by universities. She had a conceptual                                                                    
amendment  to change  the line  items to  include university                                                                    
receipts in addition to general funds.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:41:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin MOVED to  ADOPT conceptual Amendment 1                                                                    
to Amendment 91.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin   explained  that   the   conceptual                                                                    
amendment would change  the fund source to  $816,000 UGF and                                                                    
$204,000   from    university   receipts.    The   amendment                                                                    
incorporated  university   receipts  as  a   funding  source                                                                    
supporting public safety and physical security services.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson OBJECTED.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Representative   Tomaszewski,    Galvin,   Hannan,                                                                    
Josephson,  Ortiz,  Representative Coulombe,  Cronk,  Stapp,                                                                    
Edgmon, Foster                                                                                                                  
OPPOSED: Johnson                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (10/1). There  being NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
conceptual Amendment 1 to Amendment N 91 was ADOPTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:43:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked for  support for  the amendment                                                                    
to  ensure students  were safe.  The University  decided the                                                                    
funding  was  needed  and  she   supported  the  needs.  She                                                                    
detailed that $615,000  would go toward the  use of officers                                                                    
and $405,000 went to physical security.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe thanked  the  sponsor for  bringing                                                                    
the amendment  forward. She  stated it  was a  modest amount                                                                    
for a security issue  that spanned three different campuses.                                                                    
She supported the amendment.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Hannan,   Galvin,   Josephson,  Ortiz,   Coulombe,                                                                    
Stapp, Edgmon                                                                                                                   
OPPOSED: Cronk, Tomaszewski, Foster, Johnson                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (7/4). There being  NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
Amendment N 91 was ADOPTED as amended.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:45:10 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:45:58 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson WITHDREW Amendments N 92 and N 93                                                                      
(copy on file).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson MOVED to ADOPT Amendment N 94                                                                          
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   University of Alaska                                                                                             
     Appropriation: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     Allocation:    Fairbanks Campus                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    UAF  Ensuring  Alaska's   Food  Security  and                                                                    
     Resilience                                                                                                                 
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     IncOTI                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous:      625.0                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     3                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund 425.0                                                                                                        
     1048 Univ Rcpt 200.0                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     This  investment  will  respond  to the  needs  of  the                                                                    
     agriculture industry in  Alaska, improve food security,                                                                    
     and independence, and  strengthen Alaska's food system.                                                                    
     This   funding    will   support    hiring   additional                                                                    
     agricultural  research  faculty   and  contributing  to                                                                    
     expanding soil  research, varietal trials,  and product                                                                    
     development within                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  as  part  of   the  Institute  of  Agriculture,                                                                    
     Natural  Resources,   and  Extension's   mission.  ROI:                                                                    
     Faculty will  provide the  expertise needed  to support                                                                    
     Alaskans'  success in  pursuing and  expanding farming,                                                                    
     agriculture-related  businesses, and  sustainability in                                                                    
     Alaska.  This  allows   UAF  more  competitive  federal                                                                    
     funding estimated at $200K/year.  This will improve the                                                                    
     economic yield  for farmers,  promote self-sufficiency,                                                                    
     and provide an economic boost for the state.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  noted that  the amendment  had not                                                                    
previously  been seen  in subcommittee.  The University  was                                                                    
seeking a $425,000 increase in  the operating budget for the                                                                    
UAF  Institute   of  Agriculture,  Natural   Resources,  and                                                                    
Extension campus  to ensure Alaska's food  security program.                                                                    
The  program  would  use waste  products  from  seafood  and                                                                    
mariculture  industries  and  would   turn  them  into  soil                                                                    
amendments.  He read  the  amendment  explanation above.  He                                                                    
asked for members' support.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:48:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp opposed the  amendment because it added                                                                    
three   permanent  full-time   positions  to   UAF  in   the                                                                    
agricultural department.  He remarked  that it was  a robust                                                                    
program and he  encouraged members to visit to  see the work                                                                    
being  done. He  stated that  the  University had  a lot  of                                                                    
positions  in   its  budget   and  numerous   vacancies.  He                                                                    
explained that  the University  had enough  vacant positions                                                                    
it  could   reclassify  for  the  agriculture   section.  He                                                                    
appreciated the  sponsor for offering the  amendment, but he                                                                    
would vote in opposition.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Hannan, Josephson                                                                                                     
OPPOSED:  Coulombe,   Cronk,  Stapp,   Tomaszewski,  Galvin,                                                                    
Ortiz, Edgmon, Foster, Johnson                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 94 FAILED (2/9).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:50:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  MOVED to  RESCIND action  on Amendment                                                                    
67  (copy on  file). [Note:  Amendment N  67 was  previously                                                                    
adopted  on a  vote  of  6/5 during  the  4/2/24 10:30  a.m.                                                                    
meeting. See separate minutes for detail.]                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson MOVED to ADOPT Amendment N 67                                                                          
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Law                                                                                                              
     Appropriation: Civil Division                                                                                              
     Allocation:    Dep. Attny General's Office                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Delete Increase for  Statehood Defense (FY25-                                                                    
     FY27) Section: Section 1                                                                                                   
     Type:     Dec                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: -1,500.0                                                                                                         
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous:      0.0                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund -1,500.0                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     The  Governor  sought  for  a  temporary  increment  of                                                                    
     $2,018,000  to increase  funding for  Statehood Defense                                                                    
     each year between FY25  -FY27. This appropriation would                                                                    
     be  used to  challenge federal  environmental decisions                                                                    
     by  the  Environmental   Protection  Agency  and  other                                                                    
     federal  agencies.  The  department  has  claimed  that                                                                    
     cases taken on under  the umbrella of statehood defense                                                                    
     are "not controversial," but this is factually                                                                             
     inaccurate.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The  House  Finance   Department  of  Law  subcommittee                                                                    
     decremented $518,000  from the Governor's  request, and                                                                    
     this  amendment  seeks to  eliminate  the  rest of  the                                                                    
     appropriation.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  MOVED to ADOPT conceptual  Amendment 1                                                                    
to  Amendment N  67. The  conceptual amendment  would remove                                                                    
the $1.5  million decrement to  statehood defense  and would                                                                    
replace it  with a $500,000 decrement  to statehood defense.                                                                    
He  referenced  a  handout  he  had  provided  to  committee                                                                    
members  (copy on  file) regarding  discussions he  had with                                                                    
the Department  of Environmental Conservation (DEC)  and DOL                                                                    
pertaining  to  existing actions  and  many  reasons why  he                                                                    
believed  the funding  was valuable.  He  was interested  in                                                                    
compromising. He noted that the  representative from Tok had                                                                    
decremented  the amount  of  money  during the  subcommittee                                                                    
process  and  the  House  Finance  Committee  had  voted  to                                                                    
decrement the  full amount  on 4/2/24.  He was  requesting a                                                                    
second bite  at the  apple and asked  members to  review the                                                                    
information from DEC and DOL in  terms of what the money was                                                                    
spent  on. He  highlighted  that DOL  reported that  actions                                                                    
were coming  out on  a weekly  basis. Additionally,  many of                                                                    
the statehood  defense issues DEC dealt  with were technical                                                                    
and  pertained to  legal  analyses  and technical  resources                                                                    
that  DEC was  currently  unequipped to  handle without  the                                                                    
funding. He reminded committee members  that the funding was                                                                    
allocated  to  numerous  cases.   He  noted  he  had  passed                                                                    
information out related  to the various cases.  He asked for                                                                    
members' support on the conceptual amendment.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:53:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  OBJECTED for  discussion. He  supported the                                                                    
conceptual amendment.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:54:11 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:56:44 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon   WITHDREW  the  OBJECTION   to  conceptual                                                                    
Amendment 1 to Amendment N 67.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  called  the  question  on  the  underlying                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Cronk,   Stapp,  Tomaszewski,   Coulombe,  Edgmon,                                                                    
Johnson                                                                                                                         
OPPOSED: Josephson, Hannan, Ortiz, Galvin, Foster                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (6/5). There being  NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
Amendment N 67 was ADOPTED as amended.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:58:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  MOVED   to  RESCIND   action  on                                                                    
Amendment N  25 (copy  on file). [Note:  Amendment N  25 was                                                                    
offered and failed  to be adopted during  the 4/1/24 morning                                                                    
meeting. See separate minutes for detail.]                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Ortiz,   Coulombe,   Galvin,  Hannan,   Josephson,                                                                    
Edgmon, Foster, Johnson                                                                                                         
OPPOSED: Cronk, Stapp, Tomaszewski                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (8/3). There being  NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
action on Amendment N 25 was RESCINDED.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:01:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  N  25                                                                    
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Commerce, Community & Econ Dev                                                                                   
     Appropriation: Community and Regional Affairs                                                                              
     Allocation:    Community & Regional Affairs                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Grant to the Municipality of Anchorage:                                                                          
     State Match for East 56th Avenue Shelter                                                                                   
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     IncOTI                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   4,000.0                                                                                                          
     Miscellaneous:           0.0                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund 4,000.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     The   former   Solid  Waste   Services   Administration                                                                    
     building at 1111 E 56th  Avenue has been identified and                                                                    
     used as an emergency  cold weather shelter in Anchorage                                                                    
     this year.  The current operating costs  of the shelter                                                                    
     are estimated  to be $3.94  million for the  total cost                                                                    
     between  October  15  -  April   30.  This  funding  is                                                                    
     covered. However, the  shelter is also able  to be used                                                                    
     as  a low-barrier  shelter that  could be  used between                                                                    
     May 1 - October 15. The  cost for doing so would amount                                                                    
     to another $3.6 million.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The   Anchorage  Assembly   and   Mayor  have   jointly                                                                    
     requested  (through  Anchorage Resolution  2023-37  and                                                                    
     the 2024  Anchorage Legislative  Program) a  $4 million                                                                    
     match for  the Alaska  Legislature to keep  the shelter                                                                    
     running year-round. This amendment  would allow this to                                                                    
     happen.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson explained that  the amendment was a                                                                    
repeat  request  of  $4  million  for  the  Municipality  of                                                                    
Anchorage  to  operate  a year-round  shelter.  The  shelter                                                                    
would  close. Anchorage  Assemblymember  [Anna] Brawley  was                                                                    
currently  describing the  urgency of  the increment  to the                                                                    
Anchorage delegation.  He relayed that the  municipality had                                                                    
invested  considerable sums  as Representative  Coulombe had                                                                    
previously  noted, including  in  the proposal  at hand.  He                                                                    
recognized that  although it  was easier  to survive  in the                                                                    
summer,  the  increment  had   a  lifesaving  component.  He                                                                    
indicated  that about  half of  the  homeless population  in                                                                    
Anchorage was not from Anchorage.  He was making the request                                                                    
on behalf of the Anchorage Assembly and Mayor Bronson.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe   emphasized   how   crucial   the                                                                    
amendment was for Anchorage. She  noted that everyone in the                                                                    
state was impacted  by what was happening  in Anchorage. She                                                                    
urged the committees' support.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin emphasized  that  finally people  had                                                                    
come  together on  a plan,  and  it was  serving the  entire                                                                    
state  because  of  who   the  particular  homeless  shelter                                                                    
housed.  She  highlighted  she and  others  had  heard  from                                                                    
constituents that  homelessness was  one of the  top crises.                                                                    
She thought  it was  the one space  in the  operating budget                                                                    
where  the   legislature  could   make  a   difference.  She                                                                    
understood there were other things  happening in the capital                                                                    
budget  side.  She  believed  the  amendment  would  send  a                                                                    
message  that  policymakers were  looking  to  do what  they                                                                    
could  to  make a  difference.  She  strongly supported  the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz stated that  he voted for the amendment                                                                    
previously and  would vote  for it again.  He asked  how the                                                                    
amendment  helped  the   homeless  situation  in  Ketchikan,                                                                    
Dillingham, or Juneau.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:04:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  believed  the amendment  had  a  statewide                                                                    
impact. He knew from firsthand  experience being on the site                                                                    
in  Anchorage. He  stated that  the homelessness  problem in                                                                    
Anchorage  had ties  to rural  Alaska.  He did  not have  an                                                                    
exact percentage,  but the  appropriation would  lend itself                                                                    
to assisting with the problem in other areas.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon called the question on the amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  MAINTAINED the OBJECTION  to Amendment                                                                    
N 25.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Coulombe,   Galvin,   Hannan,  Josephson,   Ortiz,                                                                    
Edgmon, Foster                                                                                                                  
OPPOSED: Cronk, Stapp, Tomaszewski, Johnson                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (7/4). There being NO further OBJECTION,                                                                      
Amendment N 25 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:06:01 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:07:36 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson noted that the committee was on Amendment                                                                      
N 95.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson MOVED to ADOPT Amendment N 95                                                                          
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   University    of     Alaska    Appropriation:                                                                    
    University of Alaska Allocation:   Anchorage Campus                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title:    Anchorage Athletics Funding Increase                                                                             
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type:     Inc                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Services: 2,500.0                                                                                                          
     Commodities:   0.0                                                                                                         
     Capital Outlay:     0.0                                                                                                    
     Grants:   0.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous:           0.0                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Permanent Part-Time:     0                                                                                                 
     Temporary:     0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                        
     1004 Gen Fund 2,500.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Collegiate  level  athletics  is an  integral  part  of                                                                    
     college, but it is also  a great way to build community                                                                    
     cohesion and attract talented  students from inside and                                                                    
     outside the state.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     This amendment would  appropriate funding for Seawolves                                                                    
     athletics which  have seen a  90% cut to  the athletics                                                                    
     department  since   FY16.  This  funding   would  match                                                                    
     private gifts and sponsorships.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson relayed that  some of the Anchorage                                                                    
delegation  met with  UAA Chancellor  Sean Parnell  in early                                                                    
March  regarding an  FY 25  operating request  for Seawolves                                                                    
athletics. He  relayed that general funds  for athletics had                                                                    
been  cut 90  percent  since  FY 16.  The  increment in  the                                                                    
amendment   was  designed   to  match   private  gifts   and                                                                    
sponsorships.  He  elaborated  that $4.3  million  had  been                                                                    
nearly  zeroed  out  over recent  years  for  the  athletics                                                                    
program.  He  relayed  that  state  funds  of  $256,000  UGF                                                                    
accounted for less than 3  percent of the budget for Seawolf                                                                    
Athletics  and the  athletic arena.  Chancellor Parnell  had                                                                    
told the  delegation the funding  was unsustainable  and put                                                                    
UAA athletic  programs at risk. The  chancellor communicated                                                                    
that state funding  was needed to match  and sustain Seawolf                                                                    
Athletics. He  highlighted that several  years back  the UAA                                                                    
gymnastics,  cross  country,  and   hockey  teams  had  been                                                                    
threatened   with  demise   if   they   did  not   fundraise                                                                    
aggressively.  He noted  they  had  successfully staved  off                                                                    
certain death. He asked for members' support.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:10:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  did  not support  the  amendment.  He                                                                    
asked how full the sports complex was during games.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson responded  that hockey had returned                                                                    
to  the Sullivan  arena. The  events he  attended men's  and                                                                    
women's  basketball   games  at   the  sports   arena  under                                                                    
discussion.  He described  the events  as being  popular. He                                                                    
noted  Anchorage lost  its shootout,  which  was a  renowned                                                                    
national event.  He believed  UAA was  raising all  it could                                                                    
for ticket sales through designated general funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe asked if  the funding was a one-time                                                                    
increment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  responded,   "no."  The  proposed                                                                    
increment would be in the base budget.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  supported UAA  but did  not support                                                                    
including the increment in the base.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin   wondered  if   the  maker   of  the                                                                    
amendment would be open to  a conceptual amendment to change                                                                    
the funding to a one-time  increment. She stated that former                                                                    
Governor Parnell was careful with  his requests, and he felt                                                                    
the  request was  important. She  stated  that the  athletes                                                                    
representing the university system had been incredible.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp OBJECTED.  He called  the question  on                                                                    
the amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  did not  have an objection  to the                                                                    
conceptual amendment.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:14:21 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:14:41 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further  OBJECTION, conceptual Amendment 1 to                                                                    
Amendment N 95 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  MAINTAINED the OBJECTION  to Amendment                                                                    
N 95 as amended.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson remarked  that there  was much  he                                                                    
could read  from the  University of  Alaska FY  25 operating                                                                    
budget description  about UAA's contribution to  the funding                                                                    
including  private  donations  and fundraising  efforts.  He                                                                    
noted  that the  request was  also  included on  a one  page                                                                    
priority list from  the Board of Regents. He  stated it fell                                                                    
under  the  category  of  reputational  enhancement  through                                                                    
nationally ranked athletics. He asked for members' support.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Coulombe, Galvin, Hannan, Josephson, Ortiz                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Cronk,   Stapp,   Tomaszewski,   Edgmon,   Foster,                                                                    
Johnson                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 95 as amended FAILED (5/6).                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:18:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson MOVED Amendment N 96 (copy on                                                                          
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Education & Early Development                                                                                  
     APPROPRIATION: Libraries, Archives, and Museums                                                                            
     STRUCTURE: Create Live Homework Help Allocation                                                                            
     ADD: $75,000, 1004 Gen Fund (UGF)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Education & Early Development                                                                                  
     APPROPRIATION: Libraries, Archives, and Museums                                                                            
     ALLOCATION: Library Operations                                                                                             
     DELETE: $75,000, 1004 Gen Fund (UGF)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:                                                                                                               
     The  Institute of  Museum  and  Library Service  (IMLS)                                                                    
     Grants  to  States   Program  uses  a  population-based                                                                    
     formula  to distribute  around $180  million among  the                                                                    
     State  Library  Administrative  Agencies  (SLAAs)  each                                                                    
     year. The Alaska  State Library serves as  the SLAA for                                                                    
     Alaska.  The   Division  of  Libraries,   Archives  and                                                                    
     Museums directly  manages the IMLS funds  that are used                                                                    
     to   support   statewide  initiatives   and   services,                                                                    
     distributed through  competitive subawards, or  used to                                                                    
     support cooperative  agreements with  Alaskan libraries                                                                    
     or  consortia.  The IMLS  Grants  to  States award  for                                                                    
     Alaska  has increased  an average  of  $79.0 each  year                                                                    
     from  2019 to  2023.  The 2023  IMLS  Grants to  States                                                                    
     award  was $1,280.2,  an increase  of  $171.6 from  the                                                                    
     2022  IMLS  award.  The  division  transferred  federal                                                                    
     authority from Museum  Operations to Library Operations                                                                    
     component  in  FY2024  to  cover  the  increased  award                                                                    
     amount. However,  there will not be  sufficient federal                                                                    
     authority in  FY2025 to cover  another increase  in the                                                                    
     IMLS  Grants to  State  award.  This proposal  requests                                                                    
     additional   federal   receipts   authority   to   have                                                                    
     sufficient authority to accept  the 2024 IMLS Grants to                                                                    
     States award.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     This  amendment transfers  Live  Homework Help  funding                                                                    
     from the  Library Operations  allocation to  a separate                                                                    
     allocation  within the  Library,  Archives and  Museums                                                                    
     appropriation. The  entire $75,000 UGF  associated with                                                                    
     Live  Homework  Help  is   transferred.  There  are  no                                                                    
     associated positions.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representatives Stapp and Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson requested a brief at ease.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:18:28 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:18:33 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  acknowledged Representative  Jessee Sumner                                                                    
in the room.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson explained  that the amendment would                                                                    
cost the state  nothing. He had received a call  from one of                                                                    
the chief librarians in the  University of Alaska system who                                                                    
had informed  him that  the Live  Homework Help  program had                                                                    
been  subsumed into  the library  operations allocation  and                                                                    
would no  longer be in  its own allocation. He  relayed that                                                                    
individuals who "love  and defend" the program  did not know                                                                    
what  the  ramifications  would be.  He  reported  that  the                                                                    
program  had received  state funding  since former  Governor                                                                    
Parnell  was  in  office. The  program  was  successful  and                                                                    
provided  needed on-demand  help  for  student homework  and                                                                    
class   assignments.  The   program   could  help   increase                                                                    
retention and  graduation rates that were  too low. Students                                                                    
who were looking for help  at their library's reference desk                                                                    
after school and  on weekends could be directed  to the Live                                                                    
Homework Help website.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Josephson    elaborated   that    schools,                                                                    
homeschoolers,  and universities  were seeking  supplemental                                                                    
learning   opportunities  to   help  students   succeed.  He                                                                    
emphasized  that nearly  9,000  tutoring  sessions had  been                                                                    
conducted  online across  the state  the previous  year. The                                                                    
program was available for K-12  students and for intro level                                                                    
university students.  The service  was offered every  day of                                                                    
the week.  Based on  feedback from  students, 98  percent of                                                                    
the reporting students were able  to complete their homework                                                                    
on  time,  96 percent  thought  the  service helped  improve                                                                    
their grades,  98 percent felt  the service  increased their                                                                    
confidence, and 98 percent would  recommend the program to a                                                                    
friend.  He  stated  that  advocates  of  the  program  were                                                                    
concerned  that  being  subsumed inside  another  allocation                                                                    
would leave  them in  the dark. The  request was  to receive                                                                    
their own allocation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:22:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  shared  that she  had  visited  many                                                                    
schools throughout  the state, and  she had heard  from many                                                                    
students  that they  had used  the program.  She highlighted                                                                    
that with  9,000 students using  the service, it was  a cost                                                                    
of  $0.83  each. She  stressed  the  program was  a  "golden                                                                    
jewel." She  believed the request made  sense. She supported                                                                    
the amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon called the question.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Galvin, Hannan, Josephson, Ortiz, Edgmon                                                                              
OPPOSED:  Cronk,   Coulombe,  Stapp,   Tomaszewski,  Foster,                                                                    
Johnson                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 96 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:24:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Johnson  believed   the  amendment   process  was                                                                    
concluded. She thanked members.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:24:26 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:27:03 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe  MOVED   to   RESCIND  action   on                                                                    
Amendment N  18 (copy  on file). [Note:  Amendment N  18 was                                                                    
previously considered  and failed  on a  vote of  5/6 during                                                                    
the  4/1/24  morning  meeting.   See  separate  minutes  for                                                                    
detail.]                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  explained that the  amendment would                                                                    
cut slightly over  $40 million UGF in  vacancies. She stated                                                                    
they  were finished  with  the other  amendments  and as  of                                                                    
Amendment  70 the  committee had  added $48  million to  the                                                                    
budget. Her  amendment would remove $44  million. She stated                                                                    
that  the amendment  could provide  headroom in  the budget.                                                                    
She  remarked  that a  lot  of  priorities had  been  passed                                                                    
during the amendment process. She  requested another vote on                                                                    
the amendment within the context.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson acknowledged  Representative Mike  Prax in                                                                    
the room.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  was  grateful  to  Representative                                                                    
Coulombe offering  Amendment N 18 the  second time; however,                                                                    
the  amendment  would  cut  almost   $12  million  from  the                                                                    
Department  of Corrections.  The committee  had already  cut                                                                    
$32 million  from the department.  He stressed that  the cut                                                                    
to  Family  and  Community   Services  included  the  Alaska                                                                    
Psychiatric  Institute, Office  of Children's  Services, and                                                                    
Juvenile  Justice.   He  found  the  proposed   cut  to  the                                                                    
governor's office  to be impressive as  it suggested someone                                                                    
was an equal opportunity player.  The budget already cut $10                                                                    
million  from  Medicaid  and  the  amendment  would  cut  $4                                                                    
million  from the  Department of  Health. The  committee had                                                                    
added  some money  for prosecutors  under the  Department of                                                                    
Law and had cut some  other funding. The amendment would cut                                                                    
$2 million  from the Department of  Law. He did not  see the                                                                    
problem letting  the money lapse  or letting it go  into one                                                                    
of two  other funds previously  reviewed by Mr.  Painter. He                                                                    
could not support the amendment.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:29:55 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:30:25 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  remarked that there  had been a  motion to                                                                    
call the question by Representative Cronk.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Tomaszewski, Stapp, Cronk, Coulombe, Johnson                                                                          
OPPOSED: Ortiz, Josephson, Hannan, Galvin, Edgmon, Foster                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 18 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  thanked  members   for  their  work.  She                                                                    
relayed  that  the  amendment   process  was  complete,  and                                                                    
amendments  would  be  incorporated  into  a  new  committee                                                                    
substitute to be considered on Friday.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster discussed the schedule for bill hearings.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 268 was HEARD and HELD for further consideration.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HB 270 was HEARD and HELD for further consideration.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:34:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 6:34 p.m.                                                                                          

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