Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/13/2024 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled:
+= HB 202 OPIOID OVERDOSE DRUGS IN SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 202(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= HB 347 PROPERTY ASSESSMENT TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 347(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= HB 111 EDUCATION FOR DEAF & HARD OF HEARING TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 111(EDC) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= SB 217 INTEGRATED TRANSMISSION SYSTEMS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
+= HB 148 AK PERFORMANCE SCHOLARSHIP; ELIGIBILITY TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 148(FIN) Out of Committee
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 347(CRA) am                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to assessment of property, boards of                                                                      
     equalization, and certification of assessors; and                                                                          
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:09:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OPENED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:09:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NILS  ANDREASSEN,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,   ALASKA  MUNICIPAL                                                                    
LEAGUE, (AML) spoke  in opposition to the  bill. He remarked                                                                    
that he had a positive  experience working with the sponsors                                                                    
on  the Senate  version of  the bill.  He spoke  against the                                                                    
mandatory exemption increases.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  remarked that the issue  should be related                                                                    
to  inflation proofing.  He stressed  that  there were  some                                                                    
challenges with escalating property values.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:14:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl wondered if Mr.  Andreassen could speak to how                                                                    
the bill would go into effect.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen replied that  the exception currently applied                                                                    
to about 25 percent of households,  and did not accrue to 80                                                                    
percent across the state. He  stressed that there were other                                                                    
ways  to  address  inflation,  such   as  an  exemption  for                                                                    
homeowners that went beyond current options for residents.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl   wondered  whether  there  was   a  cap  for                                                                    
municipalities' option for senior tax exemptions.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen replied  that there  were  many options  for                                                                    
local  governments to  make adjustments  and flexibility  to                                                                    
address the issue.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  stressed that the problem  had existed for                                                                    
over   thirty  years,   and  stressed   that  AML   had  not                                                                    
represented the seniors of the  state. He wondered why there                                                                    
had not been previous work  on addressing the issues related                                                                    
to seniors in the state.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  appreciated Co-Chair Hoffman's  remarks, and                                                                    
lamented not being  prepared to answer all  of the Senator's                                                                    
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:21:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  noted that Mr.  Andreassen had  addressed one                                                                    
of the optional programs,  and noted that municipalities did                                                                    
not  cap  the  program.  He asked  if  the  fastest  growing                                                                    
demographic in Alaska was seniors.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen replied  that the  number of  exemptions had                                                                    
almost doubled in the last ten years.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  did not  think  the  state was  concerned                                                                    
about the hypothetical scenario  described by Senator Kiehl,                                                                    
which  involved  two Tier  1  retirees  that enjoyed  salary                                                                    
replacement benefits.  He pointed out that  it was different                                                                    
for  the vast  majority  of Alaskans,  which the  inflation-                                                                    
proofing would effect.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman thought  a possible  solution would  be to                                                                    
implement the  bill section  with an  effective date  of two                                                                    
years,  prior to  which AML  would have  the opportunity  to                                                                    
offer  a  better solution.  He  reiterated  that the  senior                                                                    
demographic  had not  gained the  attention of  AML. He  was                                                                    
concerned  that  AML  would not  take  action,  after  being                                                                    
ignored for so long.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl agreed with  Co-Chair Stedman's comments about                                                                    
those enjoying good retirements.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:26:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNA   BRAWLEY,   SELF,  ANCHORAGE   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified in opposition to the  legislation. She thought the                                                                    
bill did  not consider  the distributional effects  on other                                                                    
taxpayers, nor did it help all seniors.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Merrick shared  some information  she had  received                                                                    
from the Municipality of Anchorage.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:31:05 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:31:46 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JACK GADAMUS, MUNICIPAL  ASSESSOR, MUNICIPALITY OF ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via  teleconference), spoke  against  the  bill. He  echoed                                                                    
previous  comments. He  continued that  the Municipality  of                                                                    
Anchorage  would  appreciate  more   time  to  identify  the                                                                    
ramifications  and  unintended   consequences  of  the  bill                                                                    
provisions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   thought  the   subject  was   worthy  of                                                                    
discussion.  He thought  Co-Chair Hoffman  had identified  a                                                                    
good  compromise  in  delaying the  implementation  for  two                                                                    
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HB  347  was  heard  and   HELD  in  Committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 347(CRA) am                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to assessment of property, boards of                                                                      
     equalization, and certification of assessors; and                                                                          
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:20:36 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:20:59 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  MOVED to ADOPT Conceptual  Amendment 1. He                                                                    
explained  that the  amendment would  change  the amount  in                                                                    
Section 1 from $450,000 down to $250,000.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:23:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEN  ALPER,  STAFF  TO  SENATOR OLSON  noted  that  the  new                                                                    
effective  date for  Conceptual Amendment  1 was  January 1,                                                                    
2027. He added  that when the bill moved  from committee, it                                                                    
would  be   helpful  to  authorize  the   Legislative  Legal                                                                    
Department to make legal and conforming changes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  affirmed  Mr. Alper's  remarks  regarding                                                                    
Conceptual Amendment 1.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION,  it was  so ordered.  Conceptual                                                                    
Amendment 1 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment 1,  33-LS1430\T.1                                                                    
(Dunmire, 5/12/24).                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Alper explained Amendment 1.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson  WITHDREW  his  objection.  There  being  NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:25:19 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:25:32 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:25:32 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:27:10 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl MOVED  to  ADOPT  Amendment 3,  33-LS1430\T.2                                                                    
(Dunmire, 5/12/24).                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl spoke to Amendment 3.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman pondered  that there was a lot  of pride in                                                                    
home  ownership and  hoped  that there  would  be a  mandate                                                                    
within the bill.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  felt that there should  be more availability                                                                    
to impacted folks to maintain their home.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator    Kiehl    strongly    disagreed,    and    thought                                                                    
municipalities  had  budgets  to  balance  and  citizens  to                                                                    
satisfy to ensure that there was a healthy economy.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl moved to WITHDRAW  Amendment 3. There being NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson MOVED to report SCS CSHB 347(FIN) as amended                                                                     
out of Committee with individual recommendations and the                                                                        
accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SCS CSHB 347(FIN)  was REPORTED out of  committee with three                                                                    
"do   pass"   recommendations,   two    no   recommendation                                                                     
recommendations,  and with  one  amend   recommendation; and                                                                    
with  one  new  zero  fiscal note  from  the  Department  of                                                                    
Commerce, Community and Economic Development.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:32:32 PM                                                                                                                    
RECESSED                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:32:52 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 347 DCCED DCRA 051224.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347(FIN)-work draft version T.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347 CS version T in SFin summary of changes 5-9-24.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347 DCCED DCRA 051024.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347(CRA) - Summary of Changes - Sectional Analysis 5.10.24.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347
CSHB347 Public Testimony Michael Jones.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347 Supporting Doc - Support Kreig.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347 Supporting Doc - Support Moriarty.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347 Sponsor Statement (CRA).pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 202 Research - CDC Naloxone Info 3.21.24.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 202
HB 202 Research - DOH Opioid Data Dashboard 09.22-08.23.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 202
HB 202 Research - ASD Overdose Kits in Schools 3.28.24.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 202
HB 202 Summary of Changes from S to U 4.18.24.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 202
HB 202 Sectional Analysis Ver U 4.18.24.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 202
HB 202 Sponsor Statement Ver U 4.18.24.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 202
HB 111 Sponsor Statement version B.1 4.29.2024.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 111
HB 111 Sectional Analysis version B.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 111
HB 111 Explanation of Changes Version S to Version U 05.10.2024.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 111
SB 217 DCCED RCA 051324.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 217
HB 202 CS version R in SFin summary of changes 5-11-24.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 202
HB 202(FIN)-work draft version R 5.11.24.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 202
HB 148 EED SSA 051324.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 Amendment 1 Olson.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 EED ELC 051324.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 DOR TAX 051324.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 UA SYSBRA 051324.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 EED SSA 051224.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 DOLWD WIB 051224.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 DOLWD AVTEC 051224.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 DOLWD UI 051224.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 Amendment 3 Olson.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 347 DCCED DCRA 051224.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347 Amendment 3 Kiehl.pdf SFIN 5/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 347