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03/19/2024 03:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      SENATE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                    
                         March 19, 2024                                                                                         
                           3:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator David Wilson, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Löki Tobin                                                                                                              
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator James Kaufman, Vice Chair                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
SENATE BILL NO. 233                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to the day care assistance program."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
SENATE BILL NO. 241                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to medical assistance demonstration projects                                                                   
established by the Department of Health."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 233                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CHILD CARE PROVIDER EDUCATION REQUIREMENT                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) DUNBAR                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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02/15/24       (S)       HSS                                                                                                    
03/19/24       (S)       HSS AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 241                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MEDICAL ASSIST. DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/19/24       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/19/24       (S)       HSS                                                                                                    
03/05/24       (S)       HSS AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
 03/05/24       (S)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                               
 03/19/24       (S)       HSS AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 RIA SMYKE, Staff                                                                                                               
 Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                         
 Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                       
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT: Provided the sectional analysis for SB 233.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 ROBIN DEMPSEY, CEO                                                                                                             
 Catholic Social Services                                                                                                       
 Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT: Invited testimony for SB 233.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 BRIGET REYNOLDS, Program Director                                                                                              
 Refugee Assistance and Immigration Services                                                                                    
 Catholic Social Services                                                                                                       
 Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT: Invited testimony for SB 233.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 ASIA AMINI, Specialist                                                                                                         
 Refugee Education and Employment Food Services                                                                                 
 Refugee Assistance and Immigration Services                                                                                    
 Catholic Social Services                                                                                                       
 Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT: Invited testimony for SB 233.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 LORI PICKETT, Executive Director                                                                                               
 Alaska Literacy Program                                                                                                        
 Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 233.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 HILARY PORTER, Deputy Director                                                                                                 
 Division of Public Assistance                                                                                                  
 Department of Health                                                                                                           
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 233.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 EMILY RICCI, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                               
 Department of Health (DOH)                                                                                                     
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 233; Co-presented                                                               
 SB 241 and offered the sectional analysis.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 HEIDI HEDBERG, Commissioner                                                                                                    
Department of Health                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Introduced  SB   241  on  behalf   of  the                                                             
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ANNE ZINK, MD                                                                                                                   
Chief Medical Officer                                                                                                           
Department of Health                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented SB 241.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:31:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DAVID WILSON  called the Senate Health  and Social Services                                                             
Standing Committee  meeting to order  at 3:31p.m. Present  at the                                                               
call to  order were  Senators Giessel,  Tobin, Dunbar,  and Chair                                                               
Wilson.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        SB 233-CHILD CARE PROVIDER EDUCATION REQUIREMENT                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:32:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON announced the consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 233                                                                 
"An Act relating to the day care assistance program."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:32:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FORREST  DUNBAR, District J,  speaking as the  sponsor of                                                               
SB  233 stated  there  is a  childcare  affordability and  access                                                               
crisis in  Alaska, which  is harming  the state  in a  variety of                                                               
ways.  He  noted  that  if the  department  addresses  the  issue                                                               
through regulatory  change, SB  233 will not  need to  go through                                                               
the  legislative process.  He paraphrased  the following  sponsor                                                               
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                       SPONSOR STATEMENT                                                                                      
       SB 233: CHILD CARE PROVIDER EDUCATION REQUIREMENT                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill 233 will  allow childcare workers to become                                                                    
     licensed providers  in the day care  assistance program                                                                    
     without   being  required   to  pass   a  high   school                                                                    
     equivalency test  or gain a  high school  diploma. This                                                                    
     will  increase  childcare  availability in  Alaska  and                                                                    
     provide  employment   opportunities,  particularly  for                                                                    
     otherwise qualified  refugee and  immigrant communities                                                                    
      who are  ready to  work and  contribute  in this  vital                                                                   
      industry.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      Alaska has a  lack of  childcare services and  workers,                                                                   
      which has  a profound  effect on  the state's  economy.                                                                   
      New  arrivals   come   to   the   U.S.   with   varying                                                                   
      backgrounds. Some must  flee at  a moment's notice  and                                                                   
      don't have time  to grab documents,  such as  diplomas.                                                                   
      New arrivals may have  spent decades in a refugee  camp                                                                   
      where education  is not readily  available; others  may                                                                   
      be coming from countries that lack educational  systems                                                                   
      due to  political arrest.  Many of  these new  arrivals                                                                   
      have  children.  While  they  may  not   have  formally                                                                   
      participated in the field  of childcare, they have  the                                                                   
      experience needed to thrive in this profession.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
      Currently, the  Childcare Assistance  regulation 7  AAC                                                                   
      41.200 requires  that  Approved Relative  Providers  or                                                                   
      Approved In-Home Providers  must be  at least 18  years                                                                   
      old, have  a high school  diploma, general  educational                                                                   
      development  (GED)  diploma,  or  an  equivalent.  This                                                                   
      provides  a  barrier  to   some  individuals  who   are                                                                   
      attempting to  become licensed  childcare providers  in                                                                   
      Alaska.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
      SB 233 would allow  more people to enter the  childcare                                                                   
      workforce who  would  still  be subject  to  all  other                                                                   
      regulations and  requirements of  the profession.  This                                                                   
      would not  only benefit  immigrants and  refugees,  but                                                                   
      also longtime residents  who have childcare  experience                                                                   
      and  do  not  have  a  high  school  diploma   or  GED.                                                                   
      Increasing childcare in Alaska will allow more  parents                                                                   
      to return  to the  workforce, earn  income and  support                                                                   
      the state economy. I urge you to support SB 233.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 3:34:38 PM                                                                                                                   
 RIA SMYKE, Staff, Senator Forrest Dunbar, Alaska State                                                                         
 Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, provided the sectional analysis for                                                               
 SB 233:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                       Sectional Analysis                                                                                     
       SB 233: CHILD CARE PROVIDER EDUCATION REQUIREMENT                                                                        
     "An Act relating to the day care assistance program."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Section 1: Amends AS 47.25.001: Powers and duties.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        Allows a person to provide childcare in the day                                                                         
     care assistance program without passing a high school                                                                      
     equivalency test or having a high school diploma.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:35:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GIESSEL  mentioned  hearing frequently  that  wages  for                                                               
child care workers  are very low, and there is  a desire to raise                                                               
the status  of child  care staff.  She expressed  discomfort with                                                               
lowering  qualifications in  response  to this  issue. She  asked                                                               
whether it would be appropriate  to create a structure similar to                                                               
teachers and  teaching assistants, where  there could be  a child                                                               
care provider  and a  child care  assistant category,  the latter                                                               
not requiring a high school diploma or equivalent.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:36:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  expressed agreement  with  the  desire to  raise                                                               
wages for child care professionals  but noted that the wage issue                                                               
is somewhat  distinct from the  current discussion.  He mentioned                                                               
that  testimony will  be heard  from  representatives of  Refugee                                                               
Assistance Services  (RAIS) ran and the  Alaska Literacy Program.                                                               
He emphasized that many individuals  are qualified and trained to                                                               
be excellent child care  providers but lack government-recognized                                                               
credentials.  He   compared  this  to  last   year's  changes  to                                                               
commercial  driver's license  (CDL)  requirements, where  certain                                                               
qualifications were  waived to  include capable  individuals from                                                               
Ukraine.   He  suggested   exploring  alternative   qualification                                                               
standards  to  allow   more  people  to  enter   the  child  care                                                               
profession  while maintaining  quality  through other  regulatory                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:37:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN acknowledged  that this  issue has  been discussed                                                               
extensively in the  Child Care Task Force, where  she serves. She                                                               
highlighted  the  challenges  immigrant and  refugee  populations                                                               
face in  providing in-home  care and  the concerns  some families                                                               
have about  caregivers from  different cultural  backgrounds. She                                                               
requested  input  from the  department,  noting  it would  likely                                                               
create regulations to  address the issues that SB  233 also seeks                                                               
to  resolve. She  specifically  inquired  whether the  department                                                               
would have someone on staff and  what safety nets it would put in                                                               
place.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:38:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  agreed and stated  that in-home child care  is an                                                               
important  aspect   of  the  conversation.  He   highlighted  the                                                               
imbalance    between    provider    compensation    and    family                                                               
 affordability.  He noted  that,  like  other  states,  Alaska  is                                                              
 realizing that direct financial support is necessary  because the                                                              
 free market  does not function  effectively in  this economy.  He                                                              
 emphasized that child care is essentially infrastructure.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 3:40:10 PM                                                                                                                   
 ROBIN DEMPSEY, CEO, Catholic Social Services, Anchorage, Alaska,                                                               
 said that as  an agency focused on  promoting stable incomes  and                                                              
 permanent stability,  CSS  works  closely with  individuals  from                                                              
 diverse  backgrounds,   particularly   women   in   the   Refugee                                                              
 Assistance  and   Immigration   Service   (RAIS)   program.   She                                                              
 highlighted two main  concerns from  mothers seeking  employment:                                                              
 the  difficulty  in  finding  childcare  in  Anchorage   and  the                                                              
 struggle of  leaving their  children with  someone  who does  not                                                              
 understand their culture or speak their language.  She emphasized                                                              
 the  need  for  more  culturally  appropriate  and   multilingual                                                              
 childcare providers.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 MS. DEMPSEY  noted  that  CSS  works with  many  women  who  have                                                              
 childcare experience but  are unable to  apply for positions  due                                                              
 to  the GED  requirement,  which  she  argued  does  not  measure                                                              
 competency  or experience  in  childcare.  The  removal  of  this                                                              
 requirement,  she  stated,   will  help  qualified   individuals,                                                              
 including RAIS clients, gain employment and expand the  number of                                                              
 childcare providers  in  the  state.  She also  shared  that  the                                                              
 number of new arrivals in  the RAIS program has increased by  250                                                              
 percent, growing  from 21  in  2021 to  582 in  2023,  resettling                                                              
 across  the   state.  She   concluded  that   removing  the   GED                                                              
 requirement will create new employment opportunities  and improve                                                              
 Alaska's childcare system.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 3:42:56 PM                                                                                                                   
 BRIGET  REYNOLDS,  Program   Director,  Refugee  Assistance   and                                                              
 Immigration  Services,  Catholic   Social  Services,   Anchorage,                                                              
 Alaska, strongly  expressed  that  the  GED  requirement  creates                                                              
 unnecessary obstacles  for  individuals with  valuable  childcare                                                              
 experience. In her  role working with  refugees and new  arrivals                                                              
 in Alaska,  she has  witnessed hundreds  of people,  particularly                                                              
 from Ukraine,  Afghanistan, and  the Democratic  Republic of  the                                                              
 Congo, arriving  in recent  years. RAIS  (Refugee Assistance  and                                                              
 Immigration Services) provides these  individuals with tools  for                                                              
 self-sufficiency, including employment services aimed at  helping                                                              
 them  support  their  families  while  contributing  to  Alaska's                                                              
 economy.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 3:43:52 PM                                                                                                                   
MS.  REYNOLDS noted  that many  of these  individuals, especially                                                               
mothers, have  significant childcare  experience but  struggle to                                                               
enter  the  workforce due  to  childcare  responsibilities and  a                                                               
shortage of  culturally appropriate daycare options.  Parents are                                                               
concerned about leaving their children  with providers who do not                                                               
speak  their  language  or understand  their  culture.  Anchorage                                                               
urgently  needs  more  childcare  providers  who  are  culturally                                                               
sensitive and multilingual,  as over 100 languages  are spoken by                                                               
students in the  local school district. She  emphasized that many                                                               
RAIS clients,  who are  skilled, compassionate,  and multilingual                                                               
caregivers,  face   barriers  to   employment  due  to   the  GED                                                               
requirement.   Removing  this   requirement  would   allow  these                                                               
qualified  individuals to  enter  the  workforce, increasing  the                                                               
availability of  childcare and meeting  the community's  need for                                                               
culturally competent providers.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:45:27 PM                                                                                                                    
ASIA  AMINI, Specialist,  Refugee Education  and Employment  Food                                                               
Services, Refugee  Assistance and Immigration  Services, Catholic                                                               
Social Services,  Anchorage, Alaska, from Afghanistan  and a peer                                                               
leader with the Alaska Literacy  Program, testified in support of                                                               
SB 233, which seeks to remove  the GED requirement for child care                                                               
providers.  She   shared  that  many  women   in  her  community,                                                               
including  herself,   face  challenges  entering   the  workforce                                                               
because  they are  at home  with  small children.  Some day  care                                                               
waitlists in  Alaska are one to  two years long. She  recounted a                                                               
friend's experience,  where the lack of  English proficiency made                                                               
it difficult to secure daycare for her child.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:46:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. AMINI emphasized the need  for more daycare workers who speak                                                               
the languages of  Afghanistan but noted that  the GED requirement                                                               
is  a  significant barrier.  Many  Afghan  women, despite  having                                                               
experience in raising their own  children, cannot work in daycare                                                               
due  to  the  time-consuming  process of  obtaining  a  GED.  She                                                               
highlighted  that  removing  this requirement  would  allow  more                                                               
women to  work in daycare, which  would also free other  women to                                                               
pursue  employment.  She  concluded   that  eliminating  the  GED                                                               
requirement  would  help Afghan  women  and  others from  various                                                               
countries overcome this barrier.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:47:43 PM                                                                                                                    
LORI  PICKETT,  Executive   Director,  Alaska  Literacy  Program,                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska, described  SB 233  as a  crucial step  toward                                                               
removing the barrier  that requires child care  providers to have                                                               
a  GED or  high school  diploma in  order to  participate in  the                                                               
child  care assistance  program.  She explained  that the  Alaska                                                               
 Literacy Program  provides education  and job  training to  adult                                                              
 learners, helping them  acquire a GED,  assist their children  in                                                              
 school, access health care, and navigate their new  country. Last                                                              
 year, the  program  served 892  students  from 72  countries  who                                                              
 spoke  56 languages,  with  a  projection  to  serve  over  1,000                                                              
 students this  year. Many  of these  students have  fled war  and                                                              
 unrest,  which  has   prevented  them   from  completing   formal                                                              
 education or accessing high school records.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 3:48:45 PM                                                                                                                   
 MS. PICKETT emphasized  the statewide workforce  gap caused by  a                                                              
 lack of childcare  and stressed that  removing barriers for  both                                                              
 workers and providers is in  the public's best interest. The  GED                                                              
 requirement, she argued, does  not reflect a person's ability  to                                                              
 provide child  care  and  hinders  immigrants  from  contributing                                                              
 fully to society.  Many immigrants, who  come from cultures  that                                                              
 value  family  and  community,  bring  strong  work   ethics  and                                                              
 nurturing instincts, making them  ideal candidates for the  child                                                              
 care  workforce. She  urged  support  for  SB  233,  noting  that                                                              
 removing unnecessary  barriers  will  allow  immigrants  to  fill                                                              
 workforce gaps and contribute to Alaska's economic growth.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 3:50:31 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR WILSON opened public testimony on SB 233; finding  none, he                                                              
 closed public testimony.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 3:51:32 PM                                                                                                                   
 HILARY PORTER,  Deputy Director, Division  of Public  Assistance,                                                              
 Department of  Health,  Juneau,  Alaska, introduced  herself  and                                                              
 offered to answer questions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 3:51:42 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR  DUNBAR  stated   that  he   had  discussions  with   the                                                              
 department and noted that  a regulatory change is planned,  which                                                              
 will  hopefully  resolve  the   issue.  He  asked  for  a   brief                                                              
 description of the planned change.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 MS. PORTER confirmed that  the department is moving forward  with                                                              
 a drafted regulation  change to remove  the GED requirement.  She                                                              
 stated that the draft has  been submitted and is currently  under                                                              
 review. This barrier was identified through the work of  the Task                                                              
 Force.                                                                                                                         
 3:52:23 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR WILSON asked what task force.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 MS. PORTER replied that she was referring to the  Governor's Task                                                              
 Force on Child Care.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DUNBAR  expressed  satisfaction   with  the  answer  and                                                               
inquired about the department's efforts  to improve the status of                                                               
child  care and  maintain  its quality  while removing  barriers,                                                               
such as the GED requirement.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:53:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PORTER acknowledged  that there  have been  many discussions                                                               
about wages  for child care  workers through the  Governor's Task                                                               
Force on Child  Care. She noted that the  department is reviewing                                                               
those  comments and  considering  options but  could not  provide                                                               
further  details at  this  time. However,  she  assured that  the                                                               
department  is  aware of  the  issue  and  is exploring  ways  to                                                               
improve it.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:53:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN asked  what additional  safeguards and  components                                                               
the department  is putting in  place to reassure the  public that                                                               
the  child  care  system will  remain  safe  and  well-regulated,                                                               
ensuring  providers continue  to protect  vulnerable Alaskans  as                                                               
the GED requirement is removed.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PORTER emphasized  that  quality remains  a  major focus  in                                                               
child  care,   including  the  qualifications  of   workers.  She                                                               
mentioned that there is  training available through organizations                                                               
like  Thread,  a  statewide  child  care  resource  and  referral                                                               
network. Programs  such as  Seed and  Roots recognize  child care                                                               
workers  for their  training  achievements,  whether through  the                                                               
university,  Thread, or  Learn  and  Grow, another  organization.                                                               
Although she  did not  recall all  the specific  training levels,                                                               
she  noted  that there  are  approximately  13, and  workers  can                                                               
progress through  these levels to  become highly  qualified, even                                                               
without  a  GED  or  high   school  diploma.  She  stressed  that                                                               
maintaining quality remains a requirement  for both providers and                                                               
workers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  TOBIN  asked  for examples  of  other  qualifications  a                                                               
provider might need.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:55:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PORTER  explained that  health and  safety are  key concerns,                                                               
and background  checks are a  mandatory part of  the department's                                                               
quality  initiatives. She  added  that child  care providers  are                                                               
still required to obtain a business  license and must be at least                                                               
18 years old  to work in child care, ensuring  that all providers                                                               
are adults.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 3:56:05 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR GIESSEL  found it helpful  to learn  about the  available                                                              
 training programs and asked  whether individuals are required  to                                                              
 complete a training program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 MS. PORTER  replied  that  individuals are  both  encouraged  and                                                              
 required to take training. Providers can complete  basic training                                                              
 or pursue  advanced  levels to  earn  a certificate.  While  this                                                              
 certificate  is  not   equivalent  to  a   diploma  or  GED,   it                                                              
 acknowledges the training and  qualifications of the provider  or                                                              
 worker.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 SENATOR GIESSEL asked  if individuals, despite  not having a  GED                                                              
 or equivalent, will still be required to understand  child safety                                                              
 laws, such as mandatory reporting in cases of suspected abuse.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 MS. PORTER  confirmed  that  compliance  is a  key  part  of  the                                                              
 process.  Even  after  someone   is  licensed,  inspections   are                                                              
 conducted twice a  yearone  planned  and one unplannedto   ensure                                                              
 providers maintain quality and  employ qualified individuals.  If                                                              
 any issues  arise, the department  has measures  to address  them                                                              
 and work with the provider to achieve compliance.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 3:57:40 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR GIESSEL clarified that  her question referred to  in-home                                                              
 child care  providers  rather  than child  care  facilities.  She                                                              
 asked what in-home child care providers will be required  to know                                                              
 and understand about laws, such as mandatory reporting  and child                                                              
 safety regulations.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 MS. PORTER  replied  the  requirements for  licensing,  mandatory                                                              
 reporting and safety regulations are essentially the same.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 3:58:25 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR WILSON asked if there  are other regulations that the  task                                                              
 force identified as a hindrance,  such as outdoor play space  and                                                              
 infants.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 3:58:58 PM                                                                                                                   
 MS. PORTER  replied that  although there  was conversation  about                                                              
 that specific issue, no action was taken.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 3:59:15 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR WILSON asked if  the only regulatory change the  department                                                              
 is currently considering for child care providers is  the removal                                                              
 of the high school diploma or GED requirement                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:59:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PORTER replied other changes are being worked on.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked for a list to be provided to the committee.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PORTER   confirmed  that  the   department  is   working  on                                                               
additional  changes to  their licensing  regulations beyond  just                                                               
the high school diploma or GED requirement.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  asked that she provide  the list of changes  to the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PORTER  said  she  would   provide  more  information  about                                                               
licensing regulation changes to the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:00:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL stated that a  regulatory package typically takes                                                               
about a year to complete. She  then asked about the current stage                                                               
of  the department's  progress  on GED  and  high school  diploma                                                               
regulatory change.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. PORTER stated  that the regulatory package  is currently with                                                               
the  Department of  Law. The  department has  requested a  July 1                                                               
effective date and is hopeful it will meet that timeline.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  asked if the  public comment period  has already                                                               
taken place.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PORTER  replied no,  the  department  had not  reached  that                                                               
phase.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL asked when the  public hearing and feedback stage                                                               
will occur.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:01:18 PM                                                                                                                    
EMILY  RICCI, Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of Health  (DOH),                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, explained that the  time required to complete the                                                               
regulatory process can  vary, depending on the  extent of changes                                                               
and the  volume of public  comments. She noted that  the Division                                                               
of Public  Assistance and the  Commissioner's Office  are working                                                               
closely  with the  Child  Care Task  Force,  specifically on  the                                                               
regulations  related to  the GED  requirement, which  are already                                                               
underway. The duration of the  process depends on several factors                                                               
discussed, but  the department  may implement  additional changes                                                               
aligned  with  the  Task  Force's   work.  She  anticipated  that                                                               
regulatory changes  will be approved  and rolled out  on multiple                                                               
dates, depending on the progress of the Task Force.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 4:02:25 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR GIESSEL pointed out that the department has not  yet held                                                              
 a public comment period, which will take time and  require proper                                                              
 notice. She  questioned  whether the  proposed July  1  effective                                                              
 date is realistic.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 MS. RICCI acknowledged that July  1 is the department's goal  for                                                              
 the effective date.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 4:03:16 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR TOBIN commented  that there was  a great presentation  in                                                              
 the Senate Education Committee on the progress of the  Child Care                                                              
 Task Force.  She  suggested that  it  would  be helpful  for  the                                                              
 current committee to hear how  the Task Force's work aligns  with                                                              
 programs  like  Parents  as  Teachers,  which  is  part   of  the                                                              
 Department of Health.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR  WILSON replied  that  he  would  look  into  scheduling  a                                                              
 presentation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 4:03:54 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR DUNBAR  thanked the  committee for  hearing  SB 233,  the                                                              
 Department for working  with his office  and presenting, and  the                                                              
 testifiers for their support.  He emphasized that while the  bill                                                              
 is important, the real focus is on the change, which  he believes                                                              
 can and will  be achieved through  regulation. He reiterated  his                                                              
 gratitude to  the  department  and  clarified that  he  does  not                                                              
 intend to move SB 233 forward unless the regulatory  changes fall                                                              
 through, in which case he would bring it back next year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 4:04:31 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR WILSON held SB 233 in committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 4:04:42 PM                                                                                                                   
 At ease                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           SB 241-MEDICAL ASSIST. DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 4:06:01 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR  WILSON   reconvened   the   meeting  and   announced   the                                                              
 consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 241 "An Act relating  to medical                                                              
 assistance demonstration projects  established by the  Department                                                              
 of Health."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON stated SB 241 the companion bill to HB 344.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:06:59 PM                                                                                                                    
HEIDI  HEDBERG, Commissioner,  Department  of Health,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  introduced SB  241 on  behalf of  the administration  by                                                               
explaining  that it  will grant  the Department  of Health  (DOH)                                                               
permission  to apply  for a  Medicaid  demonstration waiver.  The                                                               
waiver is intended  to improve the health of  Alaskans and reduce                                                               
healthcare costs.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:07:36 PM                                                                                                                    
ANNE  ZINK,  MD, Chief  Medical  Officer,  Department of  Health,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, introduced herself.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:07:43 PM                                                                                                                    
EMILY  RICCI, Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of Health  (DOH),                                                               
Juneau, Alaska,  moved to  slide 2,  a map  of the  United Stated                                                               
showing total health  care expenditures per capita  for 2020. She                                                               
emphasized  that Medicaid  is a  critical  component of  Alaska's                                                               
healthcare  delivery   system,  covering  about  38   percent  of                                                               
Alaskans. She  highlighted its  importance as  an insurer  in the                                                               
state and  noted that  it shapes  the healthcare  delivery system                                                               
which  responds  to what  is  being  paid  for and  the  services                                                               
provided. She pointed out that  healthcare expenditures in Alaska                                                               
and the U.S. are very high,  prompting the need to assess whether                                                               
the outcomes match  the investments being made at  both the state                                                               
and national levels.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. RICCI  explained that if  the outcomes are not  aligning with                                                               
the investments,  it's important to  examine the system  and find                                                               
ways  to leverage  those investments  to  improve results.  Given                                                               
Medicaid's role  in Alaska,  she stressed that  the state  has an                                                               
opportunity to address unmet needs  and identify gaps where there                                                               
is a disconnection between investment and outcomes.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:09:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  RICCI  moved  to  slide   3,  a  chart  of  Alaska  Medicaid                                                               
utilization,  illustrating a  key  concept  in health  insurance,                                                               
showing how a small percentage  of Medicaid beneficiaries account                                                               
for a large  portion of the spending. She explained  that about 5                                                               
percent  of  beneficiaries  represent   50  percent  of  Medicaid                                                               
spending,  which  totaled  approximately $1.3  billion  in  state                                                               
fiscal  year  2023.  Additionally, 10  percent  of  beneficiaries                                                               
account for 67 percent of the spending, or about $1.7 billion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. RICCI noted  that as the state looks to  create a sustainable                                                               
Medicaid  program,  it  is  essential to  focus  on  areas  where                                                               
 individuals with high acute needs are consistently  engaging with                                                              
 the system. The  goal is to  find ways  to improve both  outcomes                                                              
 and  the  program's  fiscal  sustainability.  She  said   today's                                                              
 presentation would focus on those unmet needs  disproportionately                                                              
 affecting this high-cost portion  of the Medicaid population  and                                                              
 explore alternatives to address them.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 4:10:35 PM                                                                                                                   
 MS. RICCI moved to slide  4 a graph depicting the utilization  of                                                              
 Alaska's emergency  department.  She  explained  that  the  graph                                                              
 provides another perspective on individuals with acute  needs who                                                              
 are   using    the    healthcare    system    inefficiently    or                                                              
 inappropriately. The graph outlines  the number of patients  with                                                              
 more than 10  emergency department  visits per year,  as well  as                                                              
 the  median  number   of  visits   for  those  individuals.   She                                                              
 highlighted that, once again,  a small portion of the  population                                                              
 with very acute needs is  utilizing the system at highly  intense                                                              
 levels.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 4:11:10 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR WILSON asked  whether the  data had been  broken down  into                                                              
 the types  of visits, specifically  whether the  visits were  for                                                              
 medical or behavioral health issues.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 MS. RICCI  explained  that when  the  data  was broken  down  and                                                              
 examined in more detail, it  was found that a high percentage  of                                                              
 these cases involved a behavioral health diagnosis.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 4:11:43 PM                                                                                                                   
 DR. ZINK  on  slide  4,  explained that  the  data  highlights  a                                                              
 critical issue, particularly with patients who cycle  through the                                                              
 emergency department repeatedly  without receiving the  necessary                                                              
 care. She shared  that this experience  initially drove her  into                                                              
 policy work, as she observed both the significant time  and money                                                              
 spent on patients,  yet without addressing  their real needs  due                                                              
 to systemic shortcomings.  She noted that  systems, which can  be                                                              
 controlled and changed, are often failing patients.  Referring to                                                              
 the highest  utilizersthose   with over  75 visits  per  yearshe                                                               
 stated that all  had a behavioral  health diagnosis coded  within                                                              
 the  last   six   months.  She   explained  the   complexity   of                                                              
 distinguishing the root  cause, as  physical ailments like  heart                                                              
 failure  or autoimmune  diseases  can  lead  to  conditions  like                                                              
 degenerative bone disease, which may require opioids,  and result                                                              
 in  depression.  She  emphasized  the  close  connection  between                                                              
 physical and  mental  health,  adding  that  although  healthcare                                                              
 payment  systems   often   separate   them,   both   are   deeply                                                              
intertwined.  In  the  case  of the  highest  utilizers,  a  high                                                               
percentage had behavioral health diagnoses.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:13:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN sked about the  intersection of dental health and its                                                               
impact on  high utilizers, specifically how  plaque buildup might                                                               
lead to further health consequences.  She also inquired about the                                                               
age breakdown  of the high utilizers,  asking if they tend  to be                                                               
older, younger, or middle-aged individuals.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:13:51 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. ZINK said  the department would provide the  committee with a                                                               
broader  age  breakdown.  She  noted  that  Alaska  data  can  be                                                               
challenging due  to small sample  sizes, highlighting  that there                                                               
were seven  patients with  over 100  visits, with  one individual                                                               
having over 200  visits per year. Some high utilizers,  such as a                                                               
patient with over  300 visits annually for almost  a decade, have                                                               
since  passed away,  making  generalizations  difficult in  small                                                               
numbers. Regarding  dental health, she explained  that the waiver                                                               
primarily  focuses   on  health-related   needs  such   as  food,                                                               
transportation, and  housing, and  while they will  discuss diet-                                                               
sensitive conditions, dental care  wasn't specifically broken out                                                               
in the data. She added that,  as a physician, it can be difficult                                                               
to  directly   attribute  dental  conditions   like  inflammation                                                               
leading  to cardiovascular  disease because  emergency department                                                               
visits  might focus  on  the  immediate issue,  such  as a  heart                                                               
attack. Although dental  care can be a  contributing factor, it's                                                               
hard to account for on an individual level.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:15:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   WILSON  humorously   commented  that   at  a   healthcare                                                               
conference, teeth were  referred to as "luxury  bones" since many                                                               
insurance  companies   don't  cover  dental  care,   even  though                                                               
neglecting dental health can lead to major chronic conditions.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:15:47 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. ZINK moved to slide 5,  pointed out that taking care of these                                                               
issues  is important,  as they  have broader  impacts on  overall                                                               
health.  She   explained  that  the  department   is  focused  on                                                               
addressing  the  whole  personbehavioral,  mental,  and  physical                                                               
healthwhile  recognizing that aspects  like dental care also play                                                               
a role  in overall health.  She then noted that  individuals with                                                               
multiple chronic  conditions tend to  be much more  expensive for                                                               
the system,  with costs significantly  increasing for  those with                                                               
eight or  more chronic  conditions, up  to $81,000  annually. She                                                               
highlighted  that  some  conditions are  modifiable,  like  those                                                               
influenced  by diet  and  lifestyle, while  others  are not.  She                                                               
 pointed out that  over two-thirds  of Alaskans have  one or  more                                                              
 chronic  conditions   and   discussed   modifiable   diet-related                                                              
 conditions  such  as  obesity  (68  percent),  hypertension   (31                                                              
 percent), high  cholesterol (27 percent),  diabetes (8  percent),                                                              
 and heart  disease (5  percent). These  conditions contribute  to                                                              
 high  healthcare   costs  and  mortality.   She  emphasized   the                                                              
 importance of  addressing  these issues  early,  as the  cost  of                                                              
 treating just  one chronic  condition  adds approximately  $7,500                                                              
 per individual. She  also referenced the  Fresh Start program,  a                                                              
 public health  initiative that  provides free  resources to  help                                                              
 Alaskans address  chronic  conditions.  The department  has  been                                                              
 listening to Alaskans across regions to better understand  what's                                                              
 working and what's not in addressing chronic conditions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 4:18:11 PM                                                                                                                   
 DR.  ZINK  then  moved  to  slide  6,  discussing   two  specific                                                              
 programs. The Produce  Prescriptions program,  run by the  Yukon-                                                              
 Kuskokwim Health Corporation (YKHC) since 2018,  targets diabetes                                                              
 by  providing   healthier  food   options  through   grant-funded                                                              
 efforts. The program supports patients like elders  with diabetes                                                              
 and pregnant  women with gestational  diabetes. Another  program,                                                              
 the  Multi-Visit  Person  (MVP)  program  at  Bartlett   Regional                                                              
 Hospital in  Juneau,  coordinates  care for  patients  frequently                                                              
 cycling through  the  emergency  department,  focusing  on  food,                                                              
 housing,  and  transportation.  She   also  mentioned  the   High                                                              
 Utilizer Mat-Su (HUMS) program, which has saved  approximately $5                                                              
 million  through   emergency   department   and   hospitalization                                                              
 avoidance for  its  120  participants by  addressing  non-medical                                                              
 needs like  lodging,  food, and  transportation. She  noted  that                                                              
 these programs  illustrate  how addressing  health-related  needs                                                              
 can keep patients healthier and reduce hospital visits.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 4:20:01 PM                                                                                                                   
 DR. ZINK moved  to slide  7, showing a  pyramid that  illustrates                                                              
 the relationship  between  health-related  needs  services,  with                                                              
 prevention at the base and  treatment at the peak. She  clarified                                                              
 that the  1115 waiver  is  not meant  to replace  existing  food,                                                              
 housing,  or  transportation  programs,  but  to  provide   time-                                                              
 limited,  medically  necessary  support   for  those  with   high                                                              
 healthcare needs. She emphasized that the Centers for  Medicare &                                                              
 Medicaid   Services   (CMS)   requires   that   these    services                                                              
 specifically target patients with high healthcare costs,  such as                                                              
 those  recently   hospitalized  for   heart  failure   or   acute                                                              
 psychiatric  conditions,  to  prevent  costly  readmissions   and                                                              
 emergency department visits.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 4:21:27 PM                                                                                                                   
DR. ZINK  moved to slide  8, providing an example  from nutrition                                                               
services. She  said there is  a considerable amount of  data from                                                               
multiple  states using  waivers to  provide targeted  support for                                                               
medical conditions. One  example of target support  is a pregnant                                                               
woman  with   gestational  diabetes,   who  would   benefit  from                                                               
additional  nutritional support  to  manage her  blood sugar  for                                                               
both  her health  and  her  baby's. Another  example  is a  heart                                                               
attack patient  managing heart failure,  who would need  a strict                                                               
low-sodium diet  to avoid returning to  the emergency department.                                                               
She explained that nutritional  services might include education,                                                               
grocery delivery,  or meal delivery,  depending on  the patient's                                                               
specific needs.  For example, someone reliant  on microwave meals                                                               
might  benefit  from  medically  tailored  meals,  while  another                                                               
person  with the  ability  to cook  might  need just  nutritional                                                               
education. Studies,  such as those from  Massachusetts, show that                                                               
providing medically  tailored meals resulted in  significant cost                                                               
savingsaround    16  percent   overallwith    70  percent   fewer                                                               
inpatient admissions  and 72  percent fewer  emergency department                                                               
transports.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:23:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN expressed curiosity  about whether the waiver could                                                               
potentially  cover   allergy  testing  or  efforts   to  identify                                                               
autoimmune  responses,  such as  in  a  patient with  undiagnosed                                                               
Crohn's disease. She asked if  this type of diagnostic work falls                                                               
under the waiver or if it is a different process.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:23:57 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. ZINK explained that allergy  testing can currently be covered                                                               
by  Medicaid, depending  on the  patient's  needs. She  clarified                                                               
that the waiver  being discussed focuses on  services outside the                                                               
traditional healthcare  system. CMS has approved  various waivers                                                               
in the past,  and the scope of Alaska's  waiver application could                                                               
be broad or narrow. However,  the application process has not yet                                                               
started, as legislative  approval is needed to  move forward. She                                                               
noted that  the department  would discuss  the steps  involved in                                                               
the process later on in the presentation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TOBIN  clarified her  question, asking  if a  patient who                                                               
repeatedly presents at the  hospital with inflammation, undergoes                                                               
allergy  testing, and  is diagnosed  with  Crohn's disease  could                                                               
receive meal services under the waiver.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:25:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RICCI  responded that  the department is  hesitant to  give a                                                               
definitive answer  because the types  of support  offered through                                                               
the waiver  are not necessarily traditional  healthcare services.                                                               
 What  medical   conditions  will   qualify  for   non-traditional                                                              
 services are defined by the state through the waiver  process and                                                              
 its own program  design. The state decided  in its analysis  that                                                              
 time-limited  prescription  support  is  valuable  for  Alaskans.                                                              
 While time-limited support for a patient with Crohn's  disease is                                                              
 something the department could consider, most states'  frameworks                                                              
 focus narrowly on conditions with very frequent  readmissions and                                                              
 high-cost utilization.  Alaska can  define its  own framework  in                                                              
 this process.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 4:26:18 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR TOBIN  highlighted  concerns  about  Alaska's  Indigenous                                                              
 populations, using  dairy  as  an  example. She  noted  that  the                                                              
 Western food  system  may not  suit  all Alaskans  and  suggested                                                              
 considering these  unique factors when  addressing health  issues                                                              
 in the state.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 4:26:45 PM                                                                                                                   
 MS. RICCI  stated that the  department has  met extensively  with                                                              
 stakeholders and  will continue to  do so  throughout the  waiver                                                              
 process. This  includes  tribal  health organizations  and  other                                                              
 groups across the state. As ideas arise, they will  be evaluated.                                                              
 She noted  that stakeholders have  expressed a  desire for  clear                                                              
 guidelines on  what  the  waiver  will and  will  not  cover  but                                                              
 emphasized that they are still  in the early stages of  exploring                                                              
 options. The department will need contractual and  actuarial work                                                              
 to determine  the best  fit for  Alaska's  Medicaid program,  and                                                              
 they remain open to input.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 4:27:40 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR WILSON  noted  that the  discussion  seems to  involve  two                                                              
 different waivers, referencing Medicaid's social determinants  of                                                              
 health and  social  drivers  of  health waivers,  as  well  as  a                                                              
 medicine waiver. With  transportation now  being added, he  asked                                                              
 whether the  department  is combining  these waivers  to  address                                                              
 health-related needs in  one omnibus waiver, or  if they plan  to                                                              
 apply for multiple individual waivers.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 4:28:11 PM                                                                                                                   
 MS. RICCI explained that the 1115 waivers are a federal  tool for                                                              
 states to  cover  different  types of  services.  Whether  Alaska                                                              
 modifies its existing 1115 waiver  or applies for a new one  will                                                              
 depend on further analysis  with consultants and the Centers  for                                                              
 Medicare  and Medicaid  Services  (CMS)  to  determine  the  most                                                              
 effective approach.  She said  she does  not  envision the  state                                                              
 applying for multiple 1115 waivers for each service;  instead, it                                                              
would  likely  combine them  into  one  or two  waivers  covering                                                               
related topics, as other states have done.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:29:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RICCI  also noted  that this area  is evolving  rapidly, with                                                               
CMS updating  its approval processes  every 120 to 180  days. The                                                               
proposed legislation  seeks authorization  to apply for  a waiver                                                               
that addresses  broad categories of services  states are focusing                                                               
on,  as outlined  by CMS's  streamlined 1115  process. While  the                                                               
final product is still uncertain,  legislative approval is needed                                                               
before  the  state  can  proceed with  the  time-  and  resource-                                                               
intensive application process.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:30:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  expressed concern about granting  blanket authority                                                               
to  apply for  waivers without  the department  returning to  the                                                               
legislature to review costs and  other specifics. He acknowledged                                                               
the  goals  and   supported  them  but  is   cautious  about  the                                                               
legislative  authority over  waivers,  pointing out  that once  a                                                               
waiver  is approved,  the department  could modify  or cancel  it                                                               
without legislative  input. He  mentioned that  this has  been an                                                               
ongoing  conversation  with   the  administration  regarding  how                                                               
waiver authority  is being used  in the state. He  clarified that                                                               
the department  doesn't need  to address  this concern  and could                                                               
continue its presentation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:31:15 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. ZINK explained that many  states have 1115 waivers, with some                                                               
maintaining  a single,  continuously  updated  waiver and  others                                                               
handling  multiple  waivers.  CMS  has  emphasized  that  health-                                                               
related social  needs are major  drivers of healthcare  costs and                                                               
has  encouraged  states  to address  them.  SB  241  specifically                                                               
targets  those health-related  social needs  as outlined  by CMS.                                                               
She  clarified  that,  while  Alaska   has  an  1115  waiver  for                                                               
behavioral  health, this  issue  is distinct,  which  is why  the                                                               
department consulted  with legal  counsel and  chose to  bring it                                                               
separately  to   the  legislature.  Although   behavioral  health                                                               
diagnoses can be linked to  health-related social needs, this new                                                               
proposal  focuses  on  improving Alaskans'  health  and  reducing                                                               
costs,  particularly  in  avoiding repeat  hospitalizations.  She                                                               
emphasized  the  department's  intent  to  collaborate  with  the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:32:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  RICCI  acknowledged  that  the committee  is  aware  of  the                                                               
budgetary process  and noted  that the  budget authority  for the                                                               
Medicaid program  is ultimately appropriated by  the legislature.                                                               
 Any  budgetary   impact   related   to  Medicaid   will   require                                                              
 legislative review and approval.  She also pointed out that  1115                                                              
 waivers have  guardrails  regarding  federal  budget  neutrality,                                                              
 meaning there will likely be a financial component to consider.                                                                
 She  explained  that  many  states  have  leveraged   anticipated                                                              
 federal  savings early  in  the  process  to  reinvest  in  their                                                              
 systems, and Alaska could pursue  a similar approach if it  makes                                                              
 sense. However,  the  department  would  need to  return  to  the                                                              
 legislature for  budgetary approval  before moving  forward.  She                                                              
 emphasized that  there  will  be  checks and  balances  with  the                                                              
 legislature before any changes are implemented.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 4:33:36 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR WILSON  expressed concern about  the reapplication  process                                                              
 for an  approved  1115 waiver,  noting  that the  state  recently                                                              
 reapplied  for  the  current  1115  waiver  without   legislative                                                              
 approval,  oversight,   or  modifications,   despite  not   fully                                                              
 implementing the first waiver. He highlighted reports  indicating                                                              
 issues during the  implementation period  of the existing  waiver                                                              
 and raised concerns about the lack of legislative  involvement in                                                              
 the waiver process. While  he acknowledged the value of  waivers,                                                              
 he  questioned  how  they  are  implemented  without   sufficient                                                              
 legislative  oversight.   He   also  suggested   considering   an                                                              
 amendment to the current waiver to include additional  authority,                                                              
 such as  exploring  the Department  of Corrections  (DOC)  waiver                                                              
 process to  allow soon  to  be released  inmates to  qualify  for                                                              
 Medicaid. He  noted  that  other  states have  pursued  this  and                                                              
 suggested it could be an opportunity for future consideration.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 4:34:59 PM                                                                                                                   
 MS.  RICCI   added   that  the   department  is   exploring   new                                                              
 opportunities to  support incarcerated  individuals  pre-release,                                                              
 particularly under the  existing work  authorized by Senate  Bill                                                              
 74 and  the 1115  behavioral health  waiver. She  noted that  the                                                              
 activities available through the Centers for Medicare  & Medicaid                                                              
 Services (CMS) reentry  waiver align  with the behavioral  health                                                              
 and  substance  use  services  already  covered  under   Alaska's                                                              
 current statutory  authority.  Therefore,  while  not  explicitly                                                              
 included in  this bill, the  department believes  it already  has                                                              
 the statutory authority to pursue those services.  She emphasized                                                              
 that the department is  aware of this  and is considering how  it                                                              
 could be applied in Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 4:35:52 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR WILSON  acknowledged that  these conversations  have  taken                                                              
 place off the record but expressed his desire to have  them noted                                                              
 on the record.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:35:56 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. ZINK highlighted  that for nutrition services  to be approved                                                               
by CMS,  both a medical and  a social component must  be present.                                                               
In  response to  Senator  Tobin's earlier  comment about  Crohn's                                                               
disease, she  explained that a  person would need both  a medical                                                               
condition and an unmet social  need, such as homelessness or lack                                                               
of access  to food. She emphasized  that cultural appropriateness                                                               
is  also  considered,  referencing  the  success  of  the  Yukon-                                                               
Kuskokwim Health  Corporation (YKHC) program, which  tailors food                                                               
options  to  reduce  diabetes risk  by  addressing  local  needs,                                                               
transportation, and genetic factors.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:37:01 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. ZINK API  moved to slide 9 and said  the waiver could address                                                               
housing   for  patients   discharged   from  Alaska   Psychiatric                                                               
Institute  (API),  noting that  around  60  percent of  them  are                                                               
either  underhoused  or homeless.  For  example,  a patient  with                                                               
schizophrenia who  has lost  their job and  housing may  be doing                                                               
well after treatment at API  but struggles to reintegrate without                                                               
stable housing or  transportation. Temporary, medically necessary                                                               
housing could provide the support  needed to help patients regain                                                               
stability,  such  as  securing  a  job  or  renewing  a  driver's                                                               
license.  She emphasized  that  transitioning  from inpatient  to                                                               
outpatient  care  can  be challenging,  particularly  when  acute                                                               
mental health  issues disrupt social support  networks, jobs, and                                                               
housing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:38:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  asked for clarification  on what type  of temporary                                                               
housing  is  being  proposed.  He  inquired  whether  this  would                                                               
involve something  like an  assisted living  facility with  a day                                                               
rate  or  if  the  department  is  referring  to  paying  for  an                                                               
apartment or housing with caregivers.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. ZINK explained  that the type of housing  support will depend                                                               
on  how  the  waiver  is  scoped and  the  results  of  actuarial                                                               
analysis to determine where the  greatest impact can be made. She                                                               
noted that  other states are  paying for temporary  housing, such                                                               
as  an apartment,  often  with a  caseworker  nearby. This  would                                                               
apply  to individuals  who  do not  qualify  for other  medically                                                               
covered  needs,   such  as  a  skilled   nursing  facility  after                                                               
discharge  from  a hospital.  She  gave  an example  from  Yukon-                                                               
Kuskokwim  Health Corporation  (YKHC), where  a patient  could be                                                               
discharged  to temporary  housing in  Bethel, receive  behavioral                                                               
health  services,  and  stabilize  on  their  medications  before                                                               
 returning to  their community or  village, instead  of making  an                                                              
 immediate leap from discharge back home.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 4:39:47 PM                                                                                                                   
 MS.  RICCI moved  to  slide  10  explained  that  the  waiver  is                                                              
 designed to  tailor Medicaid to  address some  of Alaska's  unmet                                                              
 needs,  which   contribute   to   increasing,   yet   potentially                                                              
 avoidable, healthcare  utilization. Medicaid  is a  state-federal                                                              
 partnership, and  new federal  support encourages  innovation  in                                                              
 Medicaid, particularly  to address  these unmet  needs. The  1115                                                              
 waivers are  demonstration  waivers that  allow states  to  cover                                                              
 services typically not included under Medicaid for a  set period,                                                              
 usually five  years,  with renewal  possible  if the  waiver  can                                                              
 demonstrate that it does not  cost more than what Medicaid  would                                                              
 have paid without the waiver. Additionally, the waiver  must show                                                              
 positive impacts on health outcomes.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 4:40:53 PM                                                                                                                   
 MS. RICCI moved to slide 11 and emphasized that  when considering                                                              
 changes to the Medicaid  program, it's important to identify  the                                                              
 population being  served, particularly focusing  on the  5 to  10                                                              
 percent of Medicaid users  driving $1.7 billion in annual  costs.                                                              
 She stressed  that the  department's goal  is  to shift  Medicaid                                                              
 spending from  acute  services  to preventive  care  or  reducing                                                              
 acute  care  needs,  ultimately  supporting  the  Department   of                                                              
 Health's mission  to promote  the health,  well-being, and  self-                                                              
 sufficiency of all Alaskans.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 4:41:46 PM                                                                                                                   
 DR. ZINK moved to side 12 and stated that the overall  goal is to                                                              
 improve  health  outcomes  and   reduce  downstream  costs.   She                                                              
 emphasized that  healthier  people  are less  expensive  for  the                                                              
 healthcare system and that a healthy population is  essential for                                                              
 economic growth  and sustainability in  Alaska. The  focus is  on                                                              
 shifting resources  away  from high-risk  Medicaid  beneficiaries                                                              
 and toward  prevention,  wellness,  and  addressing  unmet  needs                                                              
 across the system.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 4:42:11 PM                                                                                                                   
 MS. RICCI moved to side 13  explained that the purpose of SB  241                                                              
 is to  provide  the  department with  specific  authorization  to                                                              
 apply for an 1115 waiver. She noted that Senate Bill 74  laid the                                                              
 groundwork  for   the   department   to   explore   such   waiver                                                              
 opportunities, and recent options  from the Centers for  Medicare                                                              
 & Medicaid  Services  (CMS) have  led  states to  reassess  their                                                              
 Medicaid coverage.  SB 241  is essential  for  Alaska to  proceed                                                              
with its  waiver application as  the department  determines which                                                               
services best address the state's needs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:42:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  asked about the  potential impact of  the upcoming                                                               
election  cycle on  the waiver  approval process,  noting that  a                                                               
change in  administration could affect federal  partnerships. She                                                               
inquired whether  the department  anticipates any  disruptions to                                                               
the process if there is a  shift in administration at the federal                                                               
level.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:43:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RICCI responded  that she couldn't speculate on  how a change                                                               
in administration  might affect  the process. However,  she noted                                                               
that  over  16 states,  including  Florida,  Arkansas, Utah,  and                                                               
Arizona, have already implemented,  or negotiated similar waivers                                                               
with   CMS.  While   each  administration   may  have   different                                                               
priorities,  she  believes  that  with so  many  states  actively                                                               
pursuing  these   waivers,  it  would  be   difficult  to  change                                                               
direction quickly.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:44:15 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. ZINK  added that  the department had  asked this  question to                                                               
their  technical  assistance  (TA) partners.  Historically,  even                                                               
with changes in administrations, waivers  that have been approved                                                               
tend to  remain in  place. These waivers  become embedded  in how                                                               
states operate,  making it difficult to  reverse specific changes                                                               
at CMS once they are implemented.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:44:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  RICCI  moved to  side  14  and  discussed  some of  the  new                                                               
opportunities  identified  by CMS  for  1115  waivers to  address                                                               
health-related needs, including  food security, transportation to                                                               
medical  appointments, temporary  housing,  and case  management.                                                               
She  also mentioned  workforce  development,  which was  recently                                                               
approved  in New  York and  is something  Alaska is  considering.                                                               
Moving to  the financial  considerations, she  highlighted budget                                                               
neutrality and  the possibility of  pulling down  federal savings                                                               
in  advance to  reinvest  in the  system,  noting that  providers                                                               
would  need to  adapt  to these  changes  within Medicaid,  which                                                               
could be challenging.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:45:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.   RICCI   moved  to   slide   15   and  discussed   financial                                                               
considerations.  She   highlighted  budget  neutrality   and  the                                                               
possibility  of  pulling  down  federal  savings  in  advance  to                                                               
reinvest  in the  system,  noting that  providers  would need  to                                                               
 adapt  to  these   changes  within   Medicaid,  which  could   be                                                              
 challenging:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
      Financial Considerations                                                                                                
       Budget Neutrality: Centers for Medicare and Medicaid                                                                     
      Services  requires  budget  neutrality  for  all   1115                                                                   
      waivers.                                                                                                                  
   • Alaska Medicaid Spending: The legislature authorizes                                                                     
      Medicaid spending annually.                                                                                               
   • Efficiencies in Care: There is strong evidence that                                                                      
      addressing   health-related   needs   improves   health                                                                   
      outcomes and reduces costs.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:46:21 PM                                                                                                                    
 MS. RICCI moved to slide  16 and said the sectional analysis  for                                                              
 SB 241 authorizes  the department to  apply for  a 115 waiver  to                                                              
 establish  one  or   more  demonstration   projects  focused   on                                                              
 addressing  health-related  social  needs  for  Alaska   Medicaid                                                              
 recipients in  one or  more specific  geographic  areas. It  also                                                              
 defines "health-related needs" as  social or economic  conditions                                                              
 that contribute to an individual's poor health outcomes:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                       SECTIONAL ANALYSIS                                                                                       
       Senate Bill 241: Medical Assistance Demonstration                                                                        
                            Projects                                                                                            
      Section 1.  Adds  a new  section  (h) to  AS  47.07.036                                                                 
      authorizing the department to apply for an 1115  waiver                                                                   
      to  establish  one   or  more  demonstration   projects                                                                   
      focused on addressing  health-related needs for  Alaska                                                                   
      Medicaid recipients in one or more specific  geographic                                                                   
      areas.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Defines "health-related  needs" as  social or  economic                                                                   
      conditions that  contribute  to  an  individual's  poor                                                                   
      health  outcomes.  Examples  of  health-related   needs                                                                   
      include  nutrition   and   food   security,   workforce                                                                   
      development,  transportation,  temporary  housing,   or                                                                   
      case management.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 4:46:47 PM                                                                                                                   
DR. ZINK  moved to  slide 17, which  displayed a  chart outlining                                                               
Alaska's  waiver process  with a  photograph  of a  river in  the                                                               
background.  She  emphasized  that  SB 241  is  not  intended  to                                                               
replace  any grant-based  services.  Instead, it  allows for  the                                                               
possibility   of   implementing   services  in   phases   through                                                               
demonstration projects over time.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Health                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Preparation                                                                                                              
     Partner Engagement                                                                                                         
     Tribal Engagement                                                                                                          
     Technical Assistance                                                                                                       
     Legislative Input and Authority - WE ARE HERE                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Development                                                                                                              
     Actuarial Analysis                                                                                                         
     Partner Engagement                                                                                                         
     Tribal Consultation                                                                                                        
     Waiver Proposal Drafting                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     Consultation                                                                                                             
     Tribal Consultation                                                                                                        
     CMS Negotiation                                                                                                            
     Public Comment                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Approval                                                                                                                 
     CMS Approval                                                                                                               
     Annual Budget Process                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Implementation                                                                                                           
     Infrastructure and Capacity Building                                                                                       
     Services Available to Eligible Alaskans                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Review                                                                                                                   
     Required Annual Reporting to CMS                                                                                           
     Annual Budget Process                                                                                                      
     Renewal Opportunities                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:49:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON asked if there is  a timeframe for each block of the                                                               
waiver process, assuming all conditions  are ideal, and variables                                                               
are controlled.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:49:32 PM                                                                                                                    
 MS. RICCI replied that although  she was not with the  department                                                              
 during the creation  of the behavioral  health and substance  use                                                              
 disorder 1115 waiver,  she estimated the  process could take  one                                                              
 to two years. The timeline depends on how quickly  the department                                                              
 can  move internally,  bring  on  contractors,  and  address  key                                                              
 questions. She  added  that  the implementation  timeframe  would                                                              
 also  depend   on  the   readiness  of   different  regions   and                                                              
 communities within the state, but she did not have a  clear sense                                                              
 of that readiness at this time.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 4:50:20 PM                                                                                                                   
 DR. ZINK noted  that states have  found the implementation  phase                                                              
 challenging, as providers need  to rethink their service  models.                                                              
 However, she emphasized that  the process of discussion has  been                                                              
 extremely  valuable.   It  has   fostered  collaboration   across                                                              
 different  groups  in  the   state,  which  is  influencing   and                                                              
 inspiring various divisions  within the  Department of Health  to                                                              
 explore  new approaches,  even  without  needing  a  waiver.  She                                                              
 highlighted that these conversations have already led  to changes                                                              
 by encouraging a more holistic approach to care. The  river slide                                                              
 was chosen  because  it  represents the  gathering  of  different                                                              
 ideas and  information, flowing  together to  become a  long-term                                                              
 waiver.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 4:51:07 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR WILSON  expressed  concern,  similar  to  Senator  Tobin's,                                                              
 about potential changes in  the federal administration  affecting                                                              
 the waiver  process.  He  mentioned a  conversation  with  Daniel                                                              
 Tsai, Deputy Administrator at CMS, noting that waivers  are often                                                              
 aligned with  an  administration's  priorities, which  can  shift                                                              
 with a change in  leadership. This could potentially disrupt  the                                                              
 process  if  there   is  a  mid-change   in  administration.   He                                                              
 encouraged the  department  to ask  for additional  resources  if                                                              
 needed, especially since the legislature is in session  and could                                                              
 help  expedite the  process.  He  emphasized  the  importance  of                                                              
 moving quickly and offered  support to ensure the department  has                                                              
 the  resources   necessary  to   complete  the   waiver   process                                                              
 efficiently.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 4:52:21 PM                                                                                                                   
 DR. ZINK  moved  to slide  18  and  expressed gratitude  for  the                                                              
 support and explained  that the  department's main limitation  is                                                              
 obtaining legislative  approval.  She  mentioned that  they  have                                                              
 technical assistance (TA)  support ready, along  with a team  and                                                              
 extensive partner and stakeholder engagement. The department  has                                                              
 been gathering input  from community members  to ensure that  the                                                              
 proposal aligns with their needs and interests and  that partners                                                              
are ready to implement it.  She highlighted the strong letters of                                                               
support  the department  has received  and acknowledged  the need                                                               
for  ongoing education  about what  the waiver  does and  doesn't                                                               
cover. She  also mentioned the  need to do actuarial  work before                                                               
moving forward. She  concluded by thanking the  committee for the                                                               
opportunity to discuss the SB 241.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON thanked  the Department of Health  (DOH) for sharing                                                               
where it is in the waiver process.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:54:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  RICCI thanked  the committee  for offering  DOH the  support                                                               
needed to move forward in the waiver process by hearing SB 241.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:54:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  opened public  testimony on  241; finding  none, he                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON [held SB 241 in committee.]                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:55:17 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Wilson adjourned  the Senate  Health  and Social  Services                                                               
Standing Committee meeting at 4:55 p.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 233 Version A.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 233
SB 233 Sponsor Statement 2.22.2024.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 233
SB 233 Sectional Analysis Version A 2.22.2024.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 233
SB 233 FN DOH.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 233
SB 233 Testimony.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 233
SB 241 Version A.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 241
SB 241 Sponsor Statement Version A.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 241
SB241 Sectional Analysis.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 241
SB 241 FN DOH Medicaid.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 241
SB 241 DOH Presentation.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 241
SB241 LOS 3.18.24.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 241
SB 241 Support SFC.pdf SHSS 3/19/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 241