Legislature(2023 - 2024)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

05/07/2024 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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*+ HB 330 RESTRICT PRISONER ACCESS DIGITAL DEVICES TELECONFERENCED
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        HB 330-RESTRICT PRISONER ACCESS DIGITAL DEVICES                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:53:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration of  HOUSE BILL NO. 330  am "An Act relating  to the                                                               
use  and  possession  of electronic  devices  by  prisoners;  and                                                               
relating to prisoner communication reimbursement rates."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:54:08 PM                                                                                                                    
BOB BALLINGER,  Staff, Representative  Sarah Vance,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  presented  HB 330.  He noted  that                                                               
this  issue  has  been   discussed  during  previous  legislative                                                               
sessions. He explained  that HB 330 is an attempt  to address the                                                               
recidivism rate in  Alaska. Currently, 60 percent  of people will                                                               
reoffend  within  three years  of  their  release. He  said  this                                                               
impacts the victims  as well as taxpayers. He stated  that HB 330                                                               
is  a "common  sense approach"  that would  provide tools  to the                                                               
Department of Corrections and allow  for the creation of measures                                                               
that would result in decreased recidivism rates.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:55:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER  moved to slide  2 and offered reassurance  that HB
330 is not an attempt to be  "soft on crime" - though there would                                                               
be a benefit  to the incarcerated person. He  emphasized that the                                                               
goal  is  to   benefit  society  by  providing   a  skillset  and                                                               
increasing  the likelihood  of  success,  thereby decreasing  the                                                               
recidivism rate.  He opined  that anything  done to  address this                                                               
issue would be beneficial.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:55:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER moved to slide 3  and directed attention to a video                                                               
demonstrating the potential success of this type of program.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:00:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER  moved to slide 4  and shared the success  story of                                                               
an individual  who participated in  a program similar to  what is                                                               
proposed  by HB  330 and  run by  Amazon.com, Inc.  He said  that                                                               
those who participate in this  program are 28 percent more likely                                                               
to  achieve  success. Those  who  continue  on to  post-secondary                                                               
education are  48 percent  less likely  to be  reincarcerated. He                                                               
emphasized  that  this is  very  possible  if the  technology  is                                                               
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:01:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER moved to slide 5:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     PATH TO EMPLOYMENT                                                                                                       
     Formerly incarcerated  people are unemployed at  a rate                                                                    
     of  over  27  percent  - higher  than  the  total  U.S.                                                                    
     unemployment   rate  during   any  historical   period,                                                                    
     including the Great Depression.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:01:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER moved to slide 6:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     BARRIERS TO PARTICIPATION                                                                                                
      Among the 57 percent of people in state prisons who                                                                       
     had never participated in educational programming; 18                                                                      
     percent cite never being offered the opportunity.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALLINGER said that barriers  to participation include a lack                                                               
of class  space, lack  of teachers,  and a  lack of  resources to                                                               
provide the  education. He noted  that this occurs in  any public                                                               
institution but is especially common in prisons.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:02:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BALLINGER  moved  to  slide  7 and  said  that,  while  many                                                               
prisoners  have  a  desire  to   participate  in  education,  the                                                               
aforementioned barriers keep them from accomplishing this goal.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     EDUCATIONAL ASPIRATIONS OF PRISONERS                                                                                     
        • 70 percent want to participate in education                                                                           
        • 29 percent                                                                                                            
             • Of the 70 percent, 29 percent want to earn a                                                                     
               certificate from a college or trade school                                                                       
        • 18 percent                                                                                                            
             • Of the 70 percent, 18 percent want to earn a                                                                     
               certificate from a high school diploma/GED                                                                       
               or an Associate's degree                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:02:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER moved to slide 8:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN CORRECTIONAL EDUCATION                                                                           
      For every dollar spent on correctional education, $5                                                                      
     is saved in three-year re-incarceration costs - a 400                                                                      
     percent return on investment (ROI).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALLINGER noted  that HB 330 does not have  a fiscal note, as                                                               
it does  not mandate the  Department of Corrections  to implement                                                               
these  programs  -  it  simply  removes  the  barriers  that  are                                                               
currently  in  place. He  acknowledged  that  if DOC  decides  to                                                               
create a program,  costs would be incurred. He  stated that there                                                               
are  opportunities  to  partner  with companies  and/or  allow  a                                                               
private vendor to  fund the program, which would  result in lower                                                               
to no costs. He added that  the return on the investment would be                                                               
high.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:03:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER  explained that previously, legislation  was passed                                                               
to ensure that prisoners were  not getting benefits that were not                                                               
readily  affordable  to  those who  are  not  incarcerated.  This                                                               
included  prohibitions   on  cassette   tapes,  VCR   tapes,  and                                                               
computers in prison  cells. He said that the  sponsor agrees that                                                               
prisons should  not be  comfortable and  entertaining; therefore,                                                               
the  entertainment  prohibition  was  maintained in  HB  330.  He                                                               
explained that  HB 330 allows  for in-cell computer use  for very                                                               
specific activities.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALLINGER directed  attention to  HB 330,  page 3,  line 12,                                                               
which lists the  activities the technology (e.g.  tablets) can be                                                               
used  for.  This  includes  prisoner  rehabilitation,  prisoner's                                                               
compliance   with  a   re-entry   plan,  employment,   education,                                                               
vocational  training,  access  to  legal  materials,  visitation,                                                               
healthcare,  or  other  purposes   developed  by  regulation.  He                                                               
explained that this ensures that  other services can be added and                                                               
provides  the   necessary  oversight.  He  emphasized   that  the                                                               
intention  is not  for prisoners  to  be in  their cells  playing                                                               
video games;  rather, the  intention is to  create a  pathway for                                                               
them  to   successfully  complete  their  reentry   plan  and  to                                                               
experience success once they are  released. He noted that several                                                               
changes  to  HB 330  were  made  on  the House  floor,  including                                                               
provisions related to calls, services  and technology charges and                                                               
costs   as  well   as  a   provision  that   disallows  state-run                                                               
correctional institutions from charging  fees for electronic mail                                                               
(e-mail) or visitation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:06:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI opened invited and public testimony on HB 330.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:07:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MARSHA OSS, Coordinator,  Fairbanks Reentry Coalition, Fairbanks,                                                               
Alaska,  testified   by  invitation   on  HB  330.   She  briefly                                                               
summarized  her work  in the  corrections and  reentry field  and                                                               
stated  that  this  legislation would  allow  those  involved  to                                                               
establish a comprehensive plan for  release that supports the DOC                                                               
release   plan   requirements,    education   requirements,   and                                                               
programming  needs.  It  would also  provide  support  for  those                                                               
released and  thus reduce recidivism  rates. She inferred  that a                                                               
lack of support upon release  does not lead to positive outcomes.                                                               
She commented that having identification  that can be transferred                                                               
to  a  driver's license  upon  release  has also  been  extremely                                                               
valuable,   as  it   creates  a   smoother  release-to-employment                                                               
transition. She surmised that some  of the training mentioned may                                                               
be  possible to  do -  via partnerships  - while  individuals are                                                               
still incarcerated. This would allow  inmates to have a job lined                                                               
up when they are released.  She strongly encouraged support of HB
330 and expressed gratitude to the sponsor.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:09:50 PM                                                                                                                    
BOBBY  DORTON, Fairbanks  Reentry  Coalition, Fairbanks,  Alaska,                                                               
testified in  support of HB  330. He said  he is on  the Advisory                                                               
Board  on Alcoholism  and Drug  Abuse (ABADA)  and Alaska  Mental                                                               
Health  Board  (AMHB).  and  is a  Commissioner  for  the  Alaska                                                               
Commission  for  Behavioral   Health  Certification  (ACBHC).  He                                                               
briefly  shared a  personal  history that  included  14 years  in                                                               
prison and a successful reentry.  He emphasized the importance of                                                               
support during  this process. He  stated that, had he  been given                                                               
access to a tablet  when he was in prison, he  would have had two                                                               
doctorate  degrees upon  release -  so  great was  his desire  to                                                               
learn.  He  shared  that  while  he took  advantage  of  all  the                                                               
programs available  to him  during this time,  he was  still left                                                               
with idle time.  He stated that HB 330 would  result in safer and                                                               
stronger  communities. He  referred  to  the Occupational  Mentor                                                               
Certificate  Program (OMCP)  in California,  which has  graduated                                                               
700  individuals. He  said  that graduates  of  this program  are                                                               
considered  the best  counselors in  the  nation as  a result  of                                                               
their  background in  prison and  substance  abuse. He  commented                                                               
that they also received high  scores when testing for NAADAC, the                                                               
Association for Addiction Professionals. He  said that it is time                                                               
to  acknowledge  that  old  methods are  no  longer  working  and                                                               
expressed a desire to make Alaska the best it can be.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:13:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SARAH   STANLEY,   Volunteer,   Learning  Inside   Out   Network,                                                               
Fairbanks,  Alaska, testified  in favor  of  HB 330.  She gave  a                                                               
brief history of her experience  teaching writing to inmates. She                                                               
indicated  that she  supports  the goal  of  inmates leaving  the                                                               
correctional  facility   better  than  when  they   arrived.  She                                                               
indicated support  of inmates' access  to planning  and prosocial                                                               
community   networks  through   the  use   of  safe   and  secure                                                               
technology.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:15:26 PM                                                                                                                    
DON  HABEGER, Community  Coordinator,  Juneau Reentry  Coalition,                                                               
testified in support  of HB 330. He said that  prisoner access to                                                               
digital  devices focused  on reentry  planning  is a  significant                                                               
tool in the community reentry  program. He shared the belief that                                                               
this increases  success, as  many elements  that lead  to reentry                                                               
success can  be utilized through  digital devices.  This includes                                                               
improved  job  readiness,  education achievement,  connection  to                                                               
healthcare   treatments,  and   the   development  of   prosocial                                                               
community  connections (e.g.  pre-reentry  case  planning with  a                                                               
reentry case manager).  He added that digital devices  would be a                                                               
catalyst that  would bring  a variety of  courses to  Juneau that                                                               
are not  currently available here  due to  location restrictions.                                                               
He  pointed  out that  the  state's  focus  on reentry  has  been                                                               
successful and  gave an example  from the 2023  offender profile,                                                               
which includes data related to reduced recidivism.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:17:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked about the current recidivism rates.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HABEGER  replied that current recidivism  rates (beginning in                                                               
2024 and looking back three years) are 54.3 percent.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked what this drop is attributed to.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HABEGER shared his belief that  the drop is the result of the                                                               
state's  efforts  over the  past  ten  years. He  emphasized  the                                                               
importance of making a community effort.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI noted that Senator Myers joined the meeting.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   KAWASAKI  asked   about   the   operational  details   of                                                               
implementing HB 330.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:19:40 PM                                                                                                                    
APRIL WILKERSON, Deputy  Commissioner, Department of Corrections,                                                               
answered questions on  HB 330. She explained  that the department                                                               
is currently  running two pilot  programs utilizing  tablets. One                                                               
program uses  five tablets (each  with limited access)  to attend                                                               
court video hearings. The second  program is operating out of the                                                               
Highland Mountain  Correctional Center  with around  350 tablets.                                                               
In this  case, a  vender has  deployed a  closed network  for the                                                               
tablets.  These   tablets  are  used  for   attorney  visits  and                                                               
communications, as well as accessing  the digital law library and                                                               
department policies. She expressed hope  that this program can be                                                               
used for telehealth,  as well. In addition, the  tablets could be                                                               
used  to identify  efficiencies.  She explained  how the  tablets                                                               
could  be used  for parole  documents. Inmates  are also  able to                                                               
communicate with  the superintendent and probation  officers. She                                                               
added that  inmate questions could potentially  be transferred to                                                               
tablets to increase institutional efficiency.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:23:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  if  inmates  are  allowed  to  have                                                               
telephones or other electronics in their cells.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILKERSON replied no. She  explained that there is a computer                                                               
lab  that the  inmates  can  use. She  added  that  in the  pilot                                                               
programs,  tablets are  allowed in  general housing  and are  not                                                               
taken into  cells. She  said that inmates  use kiosk  phones that                                                               
are not taken into cells.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  sought clarification on  whether electronic                                                               
tablets are already available.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILKERSON  said that  the tablets are  provided on  a limited                                                               
basis.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked why  HB 330  is necessary  if tablets                                                               
are currently available.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILKERSON answered  that currently, the only  allowed use for                                                               
electronic tablets is education,  vocational education, and legal                                                               
processes.  She  explained  that  HB 330  would  expand  this  to                                                               
include telemedicine,  telehealth, and would  increase efficiency                                                               
within the  system (e.g.  tablets could be  used for  mail and/or                                                               
video visitation).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:25:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   WIELECHOWSKI   commented   that  this   would   require                                                               
purchasing  a significant  number of  tablets and  questioned the                                                               
zero fiscal note.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILKERSON  explained that there  are a variety  of mechanisms                                                               
and processes  that can  be utilized to  obtain the  tablets. She                                                               
said that  some vendors will  provide tablets free of  charge and                                                               
briefly  described   this  process.  She  added   that  increased                                                               
departmental efficiency  (by using tablets to  streamline various                                                               
processes)  would result  in a  savings over  time, although  the                                                               
potential amount is not currently known.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:27:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked  how the 340 tablets  in Highland Mountain                                                               
Correctional Center (HMCC) are working.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILKERSON deferred the question.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:27:51 PM                                                                                                                    
JACOB  WYCKOFF, Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of Corrections,                                                               
Eagle  River, Alaska,  said  that  all the  tablets  at HMCC  are                                                               
functioning without issue. He briefly  described the ways inmates                                                               
use  the tablets,  including accessing  the digital  law library,                                                               
legal counsel  visitation, court  hearings, electronic  mail, and                                                               
internal facility messaging.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:29:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked about the tablet interface.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:29:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WYCKOFF   replied  that  there  are   user-friendly,  simple                                                               
applications and  each inmate  has a  unique identifier  used for                                                               
login. This ensures  that only the intended person  has access to                                                               
the device.  He added that  the applications on each  tablet have                                                               
been approved by the department.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:30:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. WILKERSON said  that the tablet vendor  is diligently working                                                               
with the  department and is  responsive to the shifting  needs of                                                               
the department. She stated that  the pilot program was rolled out                                                               
slowly  to  ensure  that  department  staff  were  aware  of  the                                                               
security  and comfortable  with  the usage.  She  added that  the                                                               
Superintendent works  daily with  the vendor  to ensure  that the                                                               
program is compliant and that needs are met.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:31:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI closed public testimony on HB 330.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:32:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER said  that 38 states utilize  tablets and education                                                               
programming  in  correctional  facilities.  He  opined  that  the                                                               
department should be  able to choose from  the available options.                                                               
In response  to earlier  questions, he  directed attention  to HB
330, page 2, line 11 and  explained that this is the beginning of                                                               
the  list of  prohibitions. He  noted that,  currently, computers                                                               
are  not allowed  in cells.  HB 330  would change  this, allowing                                                               
tablet use in  cells - as long  as the tabled is used  for one of                                                               
the approved purposes.  He referred to HB 330, page  3, lines 12-                                                               
19, which detail  the approved uses, and noted  that this section                                                               
specifies that computers  (and digital tablets) "may  not be used                                                               
for  any  other  purposes."  He  stated  that  this  is  existing                                                               
language, which  currently allows  very limited computer  use; HB
330  would expand  this  to  include other  uses.  He noted  that                                                               
current  statute  references  "computer"   use  [which  is  being                                                               
interpreted  to include  tablet  use]. He  commented that,  while                                                               
this  is  technically  accurate,  it  may not  be  as  clear.  He                                                               
reiterated that  being able  to use tablets  for these  new tasks                                                               
will benefit inmates and society by reducing recidivism.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:34:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI held HB 330 in committee.                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR018B.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 18
HJR18 Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 18
LOS Burns to Zogas_Redacted.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 18
HJR 18 Slides for House State Affairs Feb 2024.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 18
HJR 18 Letter of Support National Education Association (NEA).pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 18
HJR 18 Letter of Support Alaska Council of School Administrators (ACSA).pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 18
HJR 18 Explanation of Changes Memo 03192024 signed.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 18
Government-Pension-Offset 2024.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 18 a
EN-05-10045 Windfall Elimination Provision Fact Sheet 2024.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 18 b
HB0330B.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
Sponsor Statement - HB 330 DOC Tablets 2.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
HB 330B (33-LS0761-H.A) - Sectional Analysis.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
HB 330 Supporting Document - Research in Support of Digital Access (2).pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
HB 330 Supporting Document - RAND.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
HB 330 Supporting Document - Not a luxury.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
HB 330 Supporting Document - Improving Public Safety.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
HB 330 PP.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
0.00 Fiscal Note.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
SSTA Summary of Changes HB 330 version H.A to Y.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
SSTA Summary of Changes HB 330 version H.A to P.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
CS HB 330.P.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330
Summary of Changes HB 330 version H.A to P.pdf SSTA 5/7/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 330