Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

03/26/2024 10:00 AM House FISHERIES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 329 AQUATIC FARM AND HATCHERY LEASES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 329(FSH) Out of Committee
+= HB 195 COOK INLET: NEW ADMIN AREA;PERMIT BUYBACK TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
            HB 329-AQUATIC FARM AND HATCHERY LEASES                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:05:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 329, "An  Act relating to state  tideland leases;                                                               
and  relating to  aquatic farming  or related  hatchery operation                                                               
site leases."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:05:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE moved  to  adopt Amendment  1  to HB  329,                                                               
labeled 33-LS0552\R.6, Bullard, 3/19/24, which read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 3:                                                                                                  
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Section 1. AS 38.05.070(e) is amended to read:                                                                   
          (e)  The director may renew a lease issued under                                                                      
     this  section,  AS 38.05.075, 38.05.083,  or  38.05.810                                                                    
     upon its  expiration if the  lease is in  good standing                                                                    
     and the lease  renewal is determined to be  in the best                                                                    
     interests  of the  state. A  renewal issued  under this                                                                    
     subsection is  not subject to AS 38.05.035(e).  A lease                                                                    
     under  this  section,  AS 38.05.075 [,  38.05.083,]  or                                                                    
     38.05.810  may be  renewed  only once  for  a term  not                                                                    
     longer  than  the  initial  term   of  the  lease.  The                                                                    
     director  shall provide  notice  of  the lease  renewal                                                                    
     decision."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                  
          Insert "Sec. 2"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
          "(l)  If the director finds that it is in the                                                                         
     best  interests  of  the   state,  the  director  shall                                                                    
     preference  the  lessee of  a  site  leased under  this                                                                    
     section  in  renewing the  lease  for  the site  or  in                                                                    
     issuing a new  lease for the site. A  lessee under this                                                                    
     section is  not eligible  for a preference  to purchase                                                                    
     the site under AS 38.05.102."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 30:                                                                                                           
          Delete "Notwithstanding AS 38.05.070(b), a lease                                                                      
     negotiated"                                                                                                                
          Insert "A lease issued"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "issued"                                                                                                       
          Insert "renewed"                                                                                                      
          Delete "25"                                                                                                           
          Insert "20"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Sec. 6. AS 38.05.102 is amended to read:                                                                         
          Sec. 38.05.102. Lessee preference. Except for a                                                                     
     lease under  AS 38.05.081 or 38.05.083, if  land within                                                                
     a leasehold  created under AS 38.05.070 -  38.05.105 is                                                                    
     offered for sale or long-term  lease at the termination                                                                    
     of  the existing  leasehold, the  director may,  upon a                                                                    
     finding that it  is in the best interest  of the state,                                                                    
     allow  a  holder  in  good  standing  of  the  existing                                                                    
     leasehold  to  purchase  or  lease  the  land  for  its                                                                    
     appraised fair market value at  the time of the sale or                                                                    
     long-term lease."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill section accordingly.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "sec. 1"                                                                                                       
          Insert "sec. 2"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "sec. 2"                                                                                                       
     Insert "sec. 3"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:06:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JAKE  ALMEIDA, Staff,  Representative Sarah  Vance, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, addressed  Amendment 1  to HB 329.   He  noted there                                                               
were  many questions  and concerns  regarding the  length of  the                                                               
lease and expounded  on lease terms.  He  emphasized the language                                                               
inserted on  page 2 stated that  a lease could be  renewed for up                                                               
to 20 years.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:09:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER  restated  the lease  terms  and  asked                                                               
whether he was correct.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. ALMEIDA confirmed he was correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER discussed  the  process  of timing  for                                                               
businesses to start  being able to sell their  products and asked                                                               
what would happen to the lease if the business is insolvent.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:11:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KATE  DUFAULT, Program  Manager, Aquatic  Farms Leasing  Program,                                                               
Department   of   Natural   Resources,  explained   that   if   a                                                               
leaseholder's  business   failed  within   two  to   three  years                                                               
following the lease  renewal, they can request  lease closure, or                                                               
the Department  of Natural  Resources (DNR)  could take  steps to                                                               
close the lease.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER asked to be  pointed to the statute that                                                               
guided the decision whether a lease could be closed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. DUFAULT  replied that she  could provide it in  writing after                                                               
the committee hearing.  She gave  a brief description of the lase                                                               
closure process.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:13:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT asked  for  discussion  on the  section                                                               
that referred to "preference."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:13:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ALMEIDA  answered  that  it  was  a  preference  to  provide                                                               
security for the lessee and in  the best interest of the industry                                                               
to  provide security  to those  who have  been invested  into the                                                               
first 10 years of the lease.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER withdrew his  objection.  There being no                                                               
further objection, Amendment 1 to HB 329 was adopted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:14:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  moved to adopt  Amendment 2 to HB  329, as                                                               
amended, labeled 33-LS0552\R.2, Bullard, 3/12/24, which read:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 28, following "product.":                                                                                     
     Insert  "The department  may  terminate  a lease  under                                                                    
     this section  if the leased  site is not  actively used                                                                    
     for aquatic farming or  related hatchery operations for                                                                    
     more than a year."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  noted several conversations  recently with                                                               
farmers and  others in the  mariculture industry, and  because it                                                               
was such a new industry, she withdrew Amendment 2.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:15:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE  asked for clarity on  what DNR does if  someone goes                                                               
out of  business and encouraged them  to look into what  they can                                                               
do about "squatting."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:16:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES pointed out that she assured individuals                                                                  
and growers that if squatting became a problem, they should come                                                                
to the committee for help.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:17:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES moved to adopt Amendment 3 to HB 329, as                                                                  
amended, labeled 33-LS0552\R.1, Bullard, 2/26/24, which read:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 1, following "leases;":                                                                                     
          Insert "relating to geoduck seed transfers;"                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 3:                                                                                                  
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Section 1. AS 16.40.145 is amended to read:                                                                      
          Sec. 16.40.145. Geoduck seed transfer between a                                                                     
     certified  hatchery  and  an aquatic  farm.  Consistent                                                                  
     with AS 16.40.140(b) - (d),  a hatchery certified under                                                                    
     AS 16.40.100 may  transfer geoduck  seed to  an aquatic                                                                    
     farm   located   in   a   fisheries   management   area                                                                    
     established under  this title that is  contiguous to an                                                                
     island  in  the  Aleutian  Chain  or  to  the  Gulf  of                                                                
     Alaska."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                  
          Insert "Sec. 2"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "sec. 1"                                                                                                       
          Insert "sec. 2"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "sec. 2"                                                                                                       
     Insert "sec. 3"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES said Amendment 3 was "simple," and                                                                        
included geoducks in the Aleutian chains.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:18:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  removed his objection.   There being no                                                               
further objection, Amendment 3 to HB 329 was adopted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:18:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT [moved to  withdraw] Amendments 4 and 5.                                                               
[There being no objection, it was so ordered.]                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:19:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  commented that the  bill was good  for the                                                               
economy in the state and for new industries.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE  added that she  was excited for the  new legislation                                                               
and Alaska  mariculture.  She  added that there  is a lot  of new                                                               
territory and looked forward to seeing  it grow, as well as there                                                               
being more certainty for fisherman to stay in the industry.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:21:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE moved to report  HB 329, as amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection, CSHB  329(FSH)  was                                                               
reported out of the House Special Committee on Fisheries.                                                                       

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 329 - Amendment #1 (R.6) by Rep. Vance.pdf HFSH 3/26/2024 10:00:00 AM
HB 329
HB 329 - Amendment #2 (R.2) by Rep. Stutes.pdf HFSH 3/26/2024 10:00:00 AM
HB 329
HB 329 - Amendment #3 (R.1) by Rep. Stutes.pdf HFSH 3/26/2024 10:00:00 AM
HB 329
HB 329 - Amendment #4 (R.4) by Rep. Himschoot.pdf HFSH 3/26/2024 10:00:00 AM
HB 329
HB 329 - Amendment #5 (R.3) by Rep. Himschoot.pdf HFSH 3/26/2024 10:00:00 AM
HB 329
HB 195 - Amendment #1 (A.2) by Rep. Vance.pdf HFSH 3/26/2024 10:00:00 AM
HB 195
HB 195 - Amendment #2 (A.4) by Rep. Vance.pdf HFSH 3/26/2024 10:00:00 AM
HB 195