Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519
05/01/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE
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| SB67 | |
| HB196 | |
| Adjourn |
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| += | SB 187 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 307 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 67 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 196 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED | ||
| += | HB 223 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 119 | TELECONFERENCED | |
HOUSE BILL NO. 307
"An Act relating to the taxation of independent power
producers; and increasing the efficiency of integrated
transmission system charges and use for the benefit of
ratepayers."
5:39:47 PM
ANDREW JENSEN, POLICY ADVISOR ON ENERGY AND FOOD SECURITY,
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, provided a PowerPoint presentation
titled "HB 307 Integrated Transmission Systems: House
Finance Committee," dated May 1, 2024 (copy on file). He
began on slide 2 titled "Governor Dunleavy's Energy Policy
Priorities
Open access that is nondiscriminatory to the source of
power generation.
The lowest cost power moves from anywhere to anywhere
without artificial barriers.
Mr. Jensen elaborated that HB 307 was focused on the
Railbelt area of Alaska. He moved to slide 3 titled "How
does HB 307 achieve this:
Elimination of "wheeling" rates in favor of a new
transmission cost recovery mechanism to be developed
by an association of the Railbelt utilities
and approved by the Regulatory Commission of Alaska.
Creates tax parity for Independent Power Producers
by providing the same tax exemption for power
generation as the tax-exempt cooperatives or
municipally owned utilities.
Mr. Jensen turned to slide 4 titled "How could HB 307 be
improved?":
Fix the "double-tax" issue for IPPs and provide for
the tax exemption to apply only to future projects.
Provide for a deadline for the Railbelt utilities to
submit the new transmission cost recovery mechanism to
the Regulatory Commission of Alaska (RCA).
Technical improvements to language and definitions,
and clarification of responsibilities.
Mr. Jensen explained the double-tax issue. He delineated
that the Independent Power Producers (IPP) would pay the
same excise tax on a per kilowatt hour basis as the
cooperatives and both were exempted from the local property
taxes. The bill did not address what happened to the IPP
when they sold their power. They could be taxed a second
time by the utilities. The administration wanted to ensure
the power was only taxed one time. He would like to work
with the committee to address the issue. He briefly
reviewed the last 2 bullet points. He pointed out that
regarding the third bullet point, in current statute the
Electric Reliability Organization (ERO) was responsible for
creating a cost recovery standard for each utility. The
bill would change that to require the utilities to jointly
file one tariff. He delineated that the bill should clarify
who was responsible for developing the cost recovery
standard.
5:44:30 PM
Representative Hannan asked for details regarding the
deadline for cost recovery. Mr. Jensen answered that the
provision was related to when the association of Railbelt
utilities would be required to submit their plan to the RCA
for review. He indicated that the utilities were already
engaged in weekly meetings that included regulatory
attorneys and consultants concerning the development of a
cost recovery mechanism. The utilities relayed that they
could have a mechanism by the end of 2024. The
administration felt that it would be "helpful" to include a
"reasonable deadline" in the legislation. He suggested
language such as "the Railbelt Association would submit
their proposal to the RCA by a certain date. He would work
with the legislature on what a good date would be.
Representative Hannan noted there was already an amendment
deadline. She wondered whether Mr. Jensen was working with
a member of the committee to draft amendment language.
Co-Chair Foster asked if anyone had worked with Mr. Jensen
thus far. Mr. Jensen answered in the negative. He explained
that the recommendations were relayed to him on the prior
day. He deduced that the amendments would be "fairly
simple."
Representative Hannan pointed to the third bullet point on
slide 4 stating "technical improvements to language and
definitions." She related that she was waiting to see
specific definitions in a timely manner.
5:47:31 PM
Mr. Jensen referenced the April 25, 2024, committee meeting
and relayed that the amendment language had been
recommended by Mr. Authur Miller, Chief Executive Officer,
Chugach Electric during the hearing. He believed they were
"simple fixes" and could be drafted in a timely manner.
Representative Coulombe asked about slide 2, regarding the
governor's policy priorities. She was looking for the
cheapest cost for power. She asked how the bill would lower
costs for ratepayers. Mr. Jensen responded that currently,
the transmission costs were recovered through the wholesale
transaction, which worked as a fixed cost added to a
variable cost and made it more expensive possibly
preventing the transaction. He explicated that if they
changed the point of cost recovery to the end user the
amount of money utilities needed to pay for the system
would still be recovered at the middle of the process
rather than at the wholesale process. He exemplified that
when Fire Island wanted to expand and sell power to Golden
Valley Electric Association (GVEA) but when the
transmission costs were added it was no longer the lowest
cost power even if it was at the point of generation. He
summarized it as not allowing the fixed cost to get in the
way of the lowest cost of power; the transmission cost
would be the same regardless of the energy source.
5:50:19 PM
Representative Coulombe asked if the variable costs
referred to the wheeling rate. Mr. Jensen answered the
variable costs would be the cost of power generation and
the transmission cost was fixed. He expounded that
calculating costs at the point of power generation could
prevent the cheapest cost power from moving. Representative
Coulombe offered that Chugach Electric and several other
utilities requested the committee add the ancillary parts
of generating power to the new tariff. She asked how he
felt about it. Mr. Jensen replied that it was a well-
founded suggestion. He explained that the Federal Energy
Regulatory Commission used the Mansfield test using five
separate criteria that were industry standards to define a
transmission asset, which included ancillary services. He
believed that Mr. Miller's suggestion was in alignment with
industry standards. Representative Coulombe asked if it
would add to the tariff. Mr. Jensen answered that the
ancillary costs were already embedded in the cost of
electricity.
5:52:18 PM
Representative Coulombe was still skeptical that the bill
would lower the cost for consumers. Mr. Jensen replied that
the costs would not decrease immediately. He elaborated
that a diverse energy supply was needed; over 80 percent of
power was generated by gas. The utilities were looking at
other sources of power generation to reduce reliance on
gas. Wheeling rates or local property tax got in the way of
alternative power sources and the bill was trying to remove
the barriers and enable the utilities to pursue different
sources of power generation. He furthered that utilities
needed to partner with another power generator if they
could not develop another source of power generation. If
that entity was taxed the economics may break down and the
project would not be developed. He concluded that the
provisions would change how costs were recovered and
"smooth the way for additional power projects to come
online and would offset the demand for gas." He remarked
that imported gas was far more expensive than other sources
of power. Representative Coulombe asked if artificial
barriers were wheeling rates and property tax. She wondered
what the artificial barriers were. Mr. Jensen answered in
the affirmative. He reiterated that it was considered an
artificial barrier if the way power generation was
presently carried out created a barrier to development. He
delineated that the cost could still be recovered if done
differently. In addition, the issue of property taxes was a
barrier. The cooperatives' power generation was not subject
to tax. Therefore, a new power generator was at a
disadvantage. The administration was trying to level the
playing field regarding taxes. He clarified that only
wholesale power would be tax exempt.
5:55:12 PM
Co-Chair Foster indicated that Co-Chair Edgmon joined the
meeting.
Representative Galvin relayed that throughout prior invited
and public testimony the committee had heard some mixed
messages. The committee had heard John Burns, President/
Chief Executive Officer, Golden Valley Electrical
Association, emphasizing the need to act immediately yet
other testimony lacked the sense of urgency. She asked
about the apparent immediacy of the bill and why the
administration wanted to get it done this session. Mr.
Jensen answered it would take some time to deal with the
wheeling rate issue and unwind it. He believed that dealing
with the cost recovery issue would be a lengthy process and
stakeholder concerns could be addressed through the
collaborative process. He held that expediency was
necessary for project development. He elucidated that if
the legislation passed in the current session, it provided
project developers the cost certainty to move forward with
the utilities. Adopting the legislation set the policy in
place to allow project development to move forward. He
reiterated that the utilities were meeting weekly, which
indicated they were ready to implement the legislation. He
felt that it was important to try to take advantage of the
momentum and presented a rare moment of alignment in light
of the Grid Innovation and Resilience Partnerships (GRIP)
opportunity. He thought it was an opportunity they did not
want to miss.
5:59:01 PM
Representative Galvin thought that the GRIP was the first
piece that was necessary. She wondered if the legislation
was needed immediately. She queried whether HB 307 had to
pass to allow "the building blocks to progress." Mr. Jensen
answered that it was necessary to provide regulatory and
cost certainty. He expounded that if the issue of wheeling
rates was still floating aroundno one would invest in
that uncertain environment. Letting a whole year go by left
project development in limbo. He relayed that currently
Chugach and Golden Valley were working with IPPs. He
emphasized that taking advantage of the work in progress
was very important in the current year.
Co-Chair Foster noted the amendment deadline of May 2 at
5:00 p.m.
Mr. Jensen thanked the committee for the opportunity to
present and hear about the governor's priorities.
HB 307 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further
consideration.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 196 Presentation HFIN 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
| HB 196 Combined Bill File 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
| HB 196 Letters of Support 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
| HB 196 Public Testimony Rec'd by 040424.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
| HB 196 Sectional Analysis Version A 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
| HB 196 Sponsor Statement Version A 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
| HB 196 Supporting Document - CBPP Report BBCE Supports Working Families 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
| HB 196 Supporting Document - Fact Sheets 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
| HB307 HFIN Presentation 5.1.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 307 |
| HB 223 Amendment 1 to Amendment 13 ( D.12) 050124.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 223 |
| SB 67 Amendment 1 Stapp 050124.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 67 |
| SB 67-NEW FN DEC-SPAR-05-01-24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 67 |