Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519
05/01/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE
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HOUSE BILL NO. 307 "An Act relating to the taxation of independent power producers; and increasing the efficiency of integrated transmission system charges and use for the benefit of ratepayers." 5:39:47 PM ANDREW JENSEN, POLICY ADVISOR ON ENERGY AND FOOD SECURITY, OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, provided a PowerPoint presentation titled "HB 307 Integrated Transmission Systems: House Finance Committee," dated May 1, 2024 (copy on file). He began on slide 2 titled "Governor Dunleavy's Energy Policy Priorities Open access that is nondiscriminatory to the source of power generation. The lowest cost power moves from anywhere to anywhere without artificial barriers. Mr. Jensen elaborated that HB 307 was focused on the Railbelt area of Alaska. He moved to slide 3 titled "How does HB 307 achieve this: Elimination of "wheeling" rates in favor of a new transmission cost recovery mechanism to be developed by an association of the Railbelt utilities and approved by the Regulatory Commission of Alaska. Creates tax parity for Independent Power Producers by providing the same tax exemption for power generation as the tax-exempt cooperatives or municipally owned utilities. Mr. Jensen turned to slide 4 titled "How could HB 307 be improved?": Fix the "double-tax" issue for IPPs and provide for the tax exemption to apply only to future projects. Provide for a deadline for the Railbelt utilities to submit the new transmission cost recovery mechanism to the Regulatory Commission of Alaska (RCA). Technical improvements to language and definitions, and clarification of responsibilities. Mr. Jensen explained the double-tax issue. He delineated that the Independent Power Producers (IPP) would pay the same excise tax on a per kilowatt hour basis as the cooperatives and both were exempted from the local property taxes. The bill did not address what happened to the IPP when they sold their power. They could be taxed a second time by the utilities. The administration wanted to ensure the power was only taxed one time. He would like to work with the committee to address the issue. He briefly reviewed the last 2 bullet points. He pointed out that regarding the third bullet point, in current statute the Electric Reliability Organization (ERO) was responsible for creating a cost recovery standard for each utility. The bill would change that to require the utilities to jointly file one tariff. He delineated that the bill should clarify who was responsible for developing the cost recovery standard. 5:44:30 PM Representative Hannan asked for details regarding the deadline for cost recovery. Mr. Jensen answered that the provision was related to when the association of Railbelt utilities would be required to submit their plan to the RCA for review. He indicated that the utilities were already engaged in weekly meetings that included regulatory attorneys and consultants concerning the development of a cost recovery mechanism. The utilities relayed that they could have a mechanism by the end of 2024. The administration felt that it would be "helpful" to include a "reasonable deadline" in the legislation. He suggested language such as "the Railbelt Association would submit their proposal to the RCA by a certain date. He would work with the legislature on what a good date would be. Representative Hannan noted there was already an amendment deadline. She wondered whether Mr. Jensen was working with a member of the committee to draft amendment language. Co-Chair Foster asked if anyone had worked with Mr. Jensen thus far. Mr. Jensen answered in the negative. He explained that the recommendations were relayed to him on the prior day. He deduced that the amendments would be "fairly simple." Representative Hannan pointed to the third bullet point on slide 4 stating "technical improvements to language and definitions." She related that she was waiting to see specific definitions in a timely manner. 5:47:31 PM Mr. Jensen referenced the April 25, 2024, committee meeting and relayed that the amendment language had been recommended by Mr. Authur Miller, Chief Executive Officer, Chugach Electric during the hearing. He believed they were "simple fixes" and could be drafted in a timely manner. Representative Coulombe asked about slide 2, regarding the governor's policy priorities. She was looking for the cheapest cost for power. She asked how the bill would lower costs for ratepayers. Mr. Jensen responded that currently, the transmission costs were recovered through the wholesale transaction, which worked as a fixed cost added to a variable cost and made it more expensive possibly preventing the transaction. He explicated that if they changed the point of cost recovery to the end user the amount of money utilities needed to pay for the system would still be recovered at the middle of the process rather than at the wholesale process. He exemplified that when Fire Island wanted to expand and sell power to Golden Valley Electric Association (GVEA) but when the transmission costs were added it was no longer the lowest cost power even if it was at the point of generation. He summarized it as not allowing the fixed cost to get in the way of the lowest cost of power; the transmission cost would be the same regardless of the energy source. 5:50:19 PM Representative Coulombe asked if the variable costs referred to the wheeling rate. Mr. Jensen answered the variable costs would be the cost of power generation and the transmission cost was fixed. He expounded that calculating costs at the point of power generation could prevent the cheapest cost power from moving. Representative Coulombe offered that Chugach Electric and several other utilities requested the committee add the ancillary parts of generating power to the new tariff. She asked how he felt about it. Mr. Jensen replied that it was a well- founded suggestion. He explained that the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission used the Mansfield test using five separate criteria that were industry standards to define a transmission asset, which included ancillary services. He believed that Mr. Miller's suggestion was in alignment with industry standards. Representative Coulombe asked if it would add to the tariff. Mr. Jensen answered that the ancillary costs were already embedded in the cost of electricity. 5:52:18 PM Representative Coulombe was still skeptical that the bill would lower the cost for consumers. Mr. Jensen replied that the costs would not decrease immediately. He elaborated that a diverse energy supply was needed; over 80 percent of power was generated by gas. The utilities were looking at other sources of power generation to reduce reliance on gas. Wheeling rates or local property tax got in the way of alternative power sources and the bill was trying to remove the barriers and enable the utilities to pursue different sources of power generation. He furthered that utilities needed to partner with another power generator if they could not develop another source of power generation. If that entity was taxed the economics may break down and the project would not be developed. He concluded that the provisions would change how costs were recovered and "smooth the way for additional power projects to come online and would offset the demand for gas." He remarked that imported gas was far more expensive than other sources of power. Representative Coulombe asked if artificial barriers were wheeling rates and property tax. She wondered what the artificial barriers were. Mr. Jensen answered in the affirmative. He reiterated that it was considered an artificial barrier if the way power generation was presently carried out created a barrier to development. He delineated that the cost could still be recovered if done differently. In addition, the issue of property taxes was a barrier. The cooperatives' power generation was not subject to tax. Therefore, a new power generator was at a disadvantage. The administration was trying to level the playing field regarding taxes. He clarified that only wholesale power would be tax exempt. 5:55:12 PM Co-Chair Foster indicated that Co-Chair Edgmon joined the meeting. Representative Galvin relayed that throughout prior invited and public testimony the committee had heard some mixed messages. The committee had heard John Burns, President/ Chief Executive Officer, Golden Valley Electrical Association, emphasizing the need to act immediately yet other testimony lacked the sense of urgency. She asked about the apparent immediacy of the bill and why the administration wanted to get it done this session. Mr. Jensen answered it would take some time to deal with the wheeling rate issue and unwind it. He believed that dealing with the cost recovery issue would be a lengthy process and stakeholder concerns could be addressed through the collaborative process. He held that expediency was necessary for project development. He elucidated that if the legislation passed in the current session, it provided project developers the cost certainty to move forward with the utilities. Adopting the legislation set the policy in place to allow project development to move forward. He reiterated that the utilities were meeting weekly, which indicated they were ready to implement the legislation. He felt that it was important to try to take advantage of the momentum and presented a rare moment of alignment in light of the Grid Innovation and Resilience Partnerships (GRIP) opportunity. He thought it was an opportunity they did not want to miss. 5:59:01 PM Representative Galvin thought that the GRIP was the first piece that was necessary. She wondered if the legislation was needed immediately. She queried whether HB 307 had to pass to allow "the building blocks to progress." Mr. Jensen answered that it was necessary to provide regulatory and cost certainty. He expounded that if the issue of wheeling rates was still floating aroundno one would invest in that uncertain environment. Letting a whole year go by left project development in limbo. He relayed that currently Chugach and Golden Valley were working with IPPs. He emphasized that taking advantage of the work in progress was very important in the current year. Co-Chair Foster noted the amendment deadline of May 2 at 5:00 p.m. Mr. Jensen thanked the committee for the opportunity to present and hear about the governor's priorities. HB 307 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further consideration.
Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
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HB 196 Presentation HFIN 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
HB 196 Combined Bill File 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
HB 196 Letters of Support 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
HB 196 Public Testimony Rec'd by 040424.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
HB 196 Sectional Analysis Version A 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
HB 196 Sponsor Statement Version A 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
HB 196 Supporting Document - CBPP Report BBCE Supports Working Families 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
HB 196 Supporting Document - Fact Sheets 03.06.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 196 |
HB307 HFIN Presentation 5.1.24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 307 |
HB 223 Amendment 1 to Amendment 13 ( D.12) 050124.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 223 |
SB 67 Amendment 1 Stapp 050124.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 67 |
SB 67-NEW FN DEC-SPAR-05-01-24.pdf |
HFIN 5/1/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 67 |