Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

03/25/2008 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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HB 306-PRE-ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROGRAMS/PLANS                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:50:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR ROSES  announced  that the  final  order of  business                                                               
would  be SPONSOR  SUBSTITUTE FOR  HOUSE  BILL NO.  306, "An  Act                                                               
relating to  providing a voluntary pre-elementary  program within                                                               
a  school  district;  and providing  for  the  establishment  and                                                               
implementation of a statewide early childhood education plan."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:50:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LES GARA, Alaska  State Legislature, introduced HB
306, as the sponsor.   He cited widespread research that supports                                                               
expanding early education opportunities  for kids, especially for                                                               
ages younger than six.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:52:10 PM to 3:56:55 PM.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:56:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA continued his introduction  of HB 306.  Given                                                               
the benefits of early learning,  pre-elementary programs, for the                                                               
ages of three  to four, provide the most positive  impact to help                                                               
the very young  child; in fact, 40 states have  a statewide early                                                               
learning program.   In Alaska, there is a Head  Start program for                                                               
children under  the poverty level; however,  due to underfunding,                                                               
over  50 percent  of the  children  who qualify  are not  served.                                                               
Representative Gara referred to  the Perry Preschool Project that                                                               
found  that   low-income  children  who  participated   in  early                                                               
education graduated  high school,  graduated college,  and earned                                                               
higher  salaries  at  a  higher  rate than  those  who  did  not.                                                               
Additionally,  the 1999  Abecedarian Study  at the  University of                                                               
North  Carolina  calculated  that  school  districts  save  about                                                               
$11.00 per  child on children  who have attended  pre-K programs.                                                               
Furthermore,  the  Federal   Reserve  Bank  established  economic                                                               
benefits  associated with  widespread early  education.   He then                                                               
noted that a study by  the National Institute for Early Education                                                               
Research in 2004, found that  children that attended state-funded                                                               
pre-K demonstrated improvements in  vocabulary 31 percent greater                                                               
than those  who did  not participate, and  44 percent  greater in                                                               
math.    Looking  at crime statistics,  the University  of Alaska                                                               
Southeast  (UAS)  showed that  kids  who  attend early  education                                                               
commit  criminal  acts  and  collect   welfare  in  much  smaller                                                               
numbers,  and complete  their education  in much  higher numbers.                                                               
He  opined that  the research  that proves  the effectiveness  of                                                               
early  education  is  compelling,  even  when  programs  are  not                                                               
mandated.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:02:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  continued to explain that  the bill proposed                                                               
that  the pre-K  program  be a  standards-based system  delivered                                                               
through local school districts.    He then recalled that the Best                                                               
Beginnings  task force  encouraged the  inclusion of  a statewide                                                               
quality rating system for providers  that would assist parents in                                                               
selecting  programs for  their children.    He acknowledged  that                                                               
there are  many options  for the committee  to consider,  such as                                                               
assessing  a sliding  payment scale  to  cover a  portion of  the                                                               
cost.   Representative Gara expressed  his hope that, due  to the                                                               
evidence  of   the  value  of  early   education,  a  universally                                                               
available, pre-K  educational system  would soon  be in  place in                                                               
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:03:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH recognized  the value of socialization,                                                               
development  of motor  skills, and  school  readiness that  takes                                                               
place in preschool,  but asked how the school  system would house                                                               
the  additional number  of students  without displacing  existing                                                               
students.    She  also  asked  whether  transportation  would  be                                                               
provided and asked for an estimate of that additional cost.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:05:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA explained  that  the fiscal  note would  not                                                               
provide $163  million, unless the  program was provided  free and                                                               
every child participated. However,  the school construction issue                                                               
is  a hurdle;  in fact,  the legislature  could not  require that                                                               
this  program   was  to  be   implemented  by   school  districts                                                               
immediately.   He  pointed out  that  the bill  proposes for  the                                                               
state to establish the standards  and for the school districts to                                                               
develop a  program to provide  services on a voluntary  basis and                                                               
as space allows.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:07:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  further asked  whether there  would be                                                               
accommodations  for  special needs  children.    She opined  that                                                               
parents are responsible for providing  for their children's needs                                                               
to the best of their ability.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:08:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  agreed and stated  that a sliding  scale fee                                                               
would allow  those parents who  can to  pay, and yet  provide for                                                               
children  in need.   For  example,  in Anchorage,  there are  two                                                               
early education  programs operating  through the  school district                                                               
with income qualification systems.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:09:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  observed that  Head Start is  a preschool                                                               
program targeted  at children who  are at  risk for a  variety of                                                               
reasons.    She asked  whether  there  are advantages  of  simply                                                               
funding  Head Start  at  a  level so  that  every  child who  was                                                               
qualified could attend.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA stated  that, one problem with  Head Start is                                                               
the  lack  of a  mixture  of  kids  from  all income  levels  and                                                               
backgrounds.     Furthermore,  Head   Start  often   has  funding                                                               
shortages.    Although a  strong  program,    Head Start  is  not                                                               
particularly flexible.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:12:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA advocated for the  Head Start program to be                                                               
incorporated into the provisions of the bill.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:13:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR   ROSES  clarified  that   the  question   asked  how                                                               
adequately  funding Head  Start would  differ from  this program.                                                               
He opined that the Department  of Education and Early Development                                                               
(DEED) has very little oversight over Head Start.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:13:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS, Director,  School  Finance  And Facilities  Section,                                                               
Department of Education and Early  Development, opined that there                                                               
would be substantial differences between  Head Start and an early                                                               
education  program  through the  school  districts.   Head  Start                                                               
programs  are  federal and  a  strong  component of  its  program                                                               
involves medical  and dental services  that are beyond  the scope                                                               
of public school.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:14:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER further  asked  whether  the state  could                                                               
provide preschool services less expensively than Head Start.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:14:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS said  that there  is  a place  for both  systems.   He                                                               
pointed  out  that  kindergarten   is  optional  in  Alaska;  the                                                               
kindergartens  are full  and most  are operating  on a  full-time                                                               
basis.   He stated  that transportation home  is not  offered for                                                               
kindergarteners  and transportation  costs were  not included  in                                                               
the fiscal  note attached to  HB 306.   He acknowledged  that the                                                               
inclusion of  preschool programs  would lead to  capital requests                                                               
to  expand  the capacity  of  schools.    Mr. Jeans  assured  the                                                               
committee that  three and four  year olds with special  needs are                                                               
already being served by local school districts.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:16:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA informed  that  committee  that there  are                                                               
federal  funds  provided in  order  for  states to  partner  with                                                               
federal  government  programs; the  Head  Start  program may  fit                                                               
here.   She then suggested that   the charter school  concept may                                                               
be an affordable model for this legislation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:18:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  agreed that  the charter school  model might                                                               
work.   He indicated   that Head Start  staff use home  visits to                                                               
encourage the  involvement of parents.    The bill  provides that                                                               
school districts use existing structures  and programs to deliver                                                               
early education.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:20:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  asked whether local school  districts have                                                               
the ability to  charge, on a sliding scale, for  the education of                                                               
children.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:20:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA answered  that  sliding scale  fees are  not                                                               
addressed directly in the bill,  but there was broad latitude for                                                               
school  districts  to devise  a  program.    He agreed  that  the                                                               
language could be clarified to allow this ability.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:21:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  responded that  school districts  have the  ability to                                                               
offer preschool programs and charge  parents a fee.  However, the                                                               
law does  not provide for state  support for three and  four year                                                               
olds, unless a child has disabilities.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:22:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON further  asked  whether HB  306   directly                                                               
provides state support.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:22:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS said yes.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:22:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON referred  to page  1, line  14, and  asked                                                               
whether "funded  on a  pro rata  basis with  a priority  for low-                                                               
income families" was the funding  standard or whether the funding                                                               
mechanism would be basic student aid.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:22:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS responded  that he  would request  direction from  the                                                               
Department of Law  (DOL) on that point.  He  affirmed that school                                                               
districts  can   provide  a  higher  allocation   for  low-income                                                               
families, but was unsure whether there could be a sliding scale.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:23:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked for a future response.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:23:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA asked  whether this  legislation, with  or                                                               
without state  support, can act  as an  option or a  solution for                                                               
communities to view and expand.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:24:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA agreed that the  bill would create a shell of                                                               
a program that,  if not funded by the state,  relieves any school                                                               
district  from  the  obligation  of  providing  pre-K  education.                                                               
Anticipating limited funding by the  state, the bill does require                                                               
school districts to  provide pre-K education to  as many children                                                               
as  the state  provides funds  for.   Enactment of  HB 306  would                                                               
provide the structure.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:25:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  expressed  her   wish  that,  instead  of                                                               
standing  still, the  legislature  would  create structures  that                                                               
allow communities  to begin  solving problems,  further supported                                                               
by the possibility of future legislation and future funding.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:26:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER asked  whether the  cost for  the DEED  to                                                               
devise the program was included in the fiscal note.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:27:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  explained that there is  staff at the DEED  that works                                                               
on early  education guidelines.   The fiscal note attached  to HB
306 represents costs through the  foundation program and does not                                                               
represent DEED staff costs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:27:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH observed that  the legislature passed a                                                               
substantial   education   budget  this   year.      She     asked                                                               
Representative Gara  to estimate the percentage  of the education                                                               
"pie" that should  be allowed for preschool,  given the shortages                                                               
in  education appropriations  for  weatherization, energy  costs,                                                               
and retirement and benefits.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:29:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA stated that a  partial program would begin to                                                               
open some  classrooms.  He  opined that a $30  million investment                                                               
in  education should  be a  high priority.   He  referred to  the                                                               
possibility that the legislature will  approve payment of $500 to                                                               
all  residents,  to offset  energy  costs,  and stated  that  his                                                               
preference would  be to fund  educational programs.   Educational                                                               
programs to  support college students  and young children  make a                                                               
lasting effect on people's lives.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:30:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH re-stated  her question  about how  to                                                               
allocate educational costs.   For example, should  one-half go to                                                               
K-12 education.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:32:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  answered  that  early education  is  a  top                                                               
priority.  Reducing class size for  grades K through five is very                                                               
expensive, so  money may be  better spent to involve  parents and                                                               
fund  early education.    He reminded  the  committee that  money                                                               
spent in early education is  even more effective than an increase                                                               
in the  foundation formula.   Representative Gara  listed several                                                               
educational  and  financial aid  programs  that  he described  as                                                               
underfunded.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:34:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH expressed  her  hesitation to  support                                                               
the bill  considering the unanswered questions  of transportation                                                               
costs, expanded capital costs, and the constitutional issues.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:35:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  observed  that   for  the  last  six  years                                                               
legislators have said,  "We can't fund it because  it hasn't been                                                               
designed yet."  The bill  instructs the DEED to devise standards;                                                               
the  first  step to  a  universal  early  education system.    He                                                               
questioned the purpose  of avoiding the first  step, and ignoring                                                               
the advice from the Best Beginnings task force.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:36:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  suggested  that a  pilot  program  in                                                               
rural  Alaska would  provide  indicators of  the  success of  the                                                               
program  and information  sufficient to  create a  business plan,                                                               
with measurable outcomes, to submit  to legislators.  She further                                                               
suggested  that Representative  Gara approach  the administration                                                               
to establish support and credibility for the program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:38:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  conceded  that  he  will  not  be  able  to                                                               
interest the administration in implementing  a program.  The Best                                                               
Beginnings task force  was comprised of a broad  cross section of                                                               
influential people;  however, there  has not  been a  response to                                                               
their  recommendations.   In fact,  the Palin  Administration has                                                               
rejected a  pilot project.  He  agreed that there was  need for a                                                               
governor to champion the issue.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:40:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA opined that a  great deal of money has been                                                               
spent on  programs with fewer positive  outcomes substantiated in                                                               
research.   If,  in  fact,  there was  an  interest  in making  a                                                               
difference for  education, the  funding would be  looked at  as a                                                               
budget  issue by  the appropriate  committees.   She opined  that                                                               
successful  methods of  educating  children  are known;  however,                                                               
funding  is  a continuing  issue  with  constant changes  in  the                                                               
legislature  and in  the administration.   Representative  Cissna                                                               
challenged  legislators to  care  about education  issues and  to                                                               
have the will to make a difference.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:43:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH remarked:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     I believe  that we  keep delegating  our responsibility                                                                    
     to other  people, to  come back  with solutions  and we                                                                    
     never have buy-in  from the legislature. ...  If you do                                                                    
     not  have  legislators involved  in  a  process ...  to                                                                    
     commit to something where you  get people believing and                                                                    
     pulling the  rope the same direction,  that we continue                                                                    
     to spin.    ... I think [solutions] are  there, it just                                                                    
     requires a cooperative effort.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:44:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KIM   LANGTON,  PhD;   Superintendent,   Denali  Borough   School                                                               
District,  informed the  committee of  his experience  working in                                                               
the Iditarod  Area School District,  the Kuspuk  School District,                                                               
and  the Denali  Borough School  District.   He  opined that  the                                                               
issues  dealing   with  the  younger  child   generate  the  most                                                               
excitement among parents and communities.   He noted the positive                                                               
impact of an  early education program that was begun  in 2001, in                                                               
Aniak.  In the Bush, children  often do not have the language and                                                               
comprehension skills needed for success  later on in school.  Dr.                                                               
Langton stressed that early exposure  to a print-rich and verbal-                                                               
rich environment  is critical for  effective later learning.   He                                                               
observed that, if the state  is sincere about achievement for the                                                               
kids in rural Alaska, a program of pre-school is required.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:47:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CANDICE   WINKLER,   Chief    Executive   Officer,   Child   Care                                                               
Connections, expressed  her support  of the  intent of  the bill,                                                               
adding her belief that these  services need to be expanded beyond                                                               
the  school districts  and should  include  child care  programs,                                                               
private  preschool programs,  and Head  Start programs  that meet                                                               
certain standards.   Rating the existing  programs, as previously                                                               
suggested, would  ensure that pre-K  services could  be delivered                                                               
through a mixed  approach.  She opined that a  mixed approach has                                                               
been  proven  to  be  effective and  efficient,  and  would  meet                                                               
parent's needs,  reduce duplication, and improve  community based                                                               
programs.   Ms. Winkler agreed  that it is the  responsibility of                                                               
the legislature  to review recommendations of  citizen committees                                                               
and become involved.  Ms.  Winkler stated that early education is                                                               
good public policy  and benefits economic development  in that it                                                               
would  help the  state remain  competitive in  a global  economy.                                                               
The  research is  clear  that funding  to  support quality  early                                                               
education creates a  high return on the investment.   She assured                                                               
the  committee that  there was  plenty of  research available  to                                                               
support early education and encouraged  the legislature to pursue                                                               
this issue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:54:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ABBE HENSLEY,  Executive Director, Best Beginnings,  informed the                                                               
committee  that Best  Beginnings is  a statewide  initiative that                                                               
brings together people  and resources to ensure  that all Alaskan                                                               
children begin  school ready  for success.   She pointed  out the                                                               
importance  of delivering  early  learning opportunities  through                                                               
diverse delivery  systems versus  the public  school system.   In                                                               
fact, a  recommendation from  the Ready to  Read, Ready  to Learn                                                               
task force  was to  develop a statewide  system of  voluntary and                                                               
affordable  early childhood  education with  options for  parents                                                               
and families  wherever they are.   Additionally,  Best Beginnings                                                               
is focusing  on children from  birth to  age 6, and  working with                                                               
families to provide learning opportunities  in a variety of ways.                                                               
Ms.  Hensley  encouraged  the  committee  to  look  carefully  at                                                               
providing   opportunities  for   the   children   in  Alaska   to                                                               
successfully  begin school,  and prepare  for the  rest of  their                                                               
lives.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:59:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  ROSES announced that  public testimony would  be kept                                                               
open for further discussion.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:00:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  whether deleting  Sections 1  and 2                                                               
would allow the bill to move forward.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:01:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA acknowledged that  this September, there will                                                               
not  be a  statewide education  program.   Moreover, without  any                                                               
changes to  the bill, the program  would be further delayed.   He                                                               
agreed with the deletion of Sections  1 through 4 and the passage                                                               
of Section  5, with  the intent  to allow the  DEED to  devise an                                                               
efficient and effective early education program.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:02:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  offered  Conceptual Amendment  1,  which                                                               
deletes from  page 1,  line 5,  through page  4, line  8, leaving                                                               
only Section 5 of the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:02:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR ROSES objected.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:02:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER opined  that the  amendment contains  the                                                               
"nub" of the bill and would move the bill expeditiously.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:03:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  observed  that  there  would  be  further                                                               
public testimony, therefore, there would  also be time to draft a                                                               
committee substitute (CS).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:03:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  stated her support for  the amendment,                                                               
for further testimony, and for the submission of a CS.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:03:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  asked for comments  from Mr. Jeans  of the                                                               
DEED.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:04:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS stated his support for the amendment.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:04:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  suggested  that Section  3  also  contained                                                               
language necessary for the bill.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:04:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  ROSES re-stated that  the proposal  by Representative                                                               
Seaton was to eliminate Sections 1 and 2.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:05:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA affirmed  that  Sections 3  and  5, but  not                                                               
Section 4, should be retained.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:05:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR ROSES suggested that  Representative Gardner work with                                                               
the sponsor to draft a CS,  rather than proceeding with action on                                                               
the offered amendment.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:05:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER withdrew her  amendment and commented that                                                               
the last three  lines of Section 5 could  include the significant                                                               
language from Section 3.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:06:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  spoke in  opposition to  language that                                                               
incorporates "devise and implement".                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:06:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR ROSES  affirmed  that  the CS  would  propose a  well                                                               
designated  plan as  opposed to  implementation  of an  immediate                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:06:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA stated his intent to provide a CS.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:07:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR ROSES announced that SSHB 306 would be held.                                                                         

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