Legislature(2017 - 2018)BARNES 124
02/09/2018 01:00 PM House RESOURCES
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| HB322 | |
| HB305 | |
| Adjourn |
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| *+ | HB 305 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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HB 305-OIL/HAZARDOUS SUB.:CLEANUP/REIMBURSEMENT
2:32:41 PM
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON announced that the final order of business
would be HOUSE BILL NO. 305, "An Act relating to oil and
hazardous substances and waiver of cost recovery for containment
and cleanup of certain releases; and providing for an effective
date."
2:33:18 PM
KRISTIN RYAN, Director, Division of Spill Prevention and
Response (SPAR), Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC),
introduced HB 305 at the request of the governor. Ms. Ryan
informed the committee DEC increased its cost recovery efforts
recently, which has created difficulties for homeowners who are
responsible for spills of home heating oil. In fact, homeowners
are reluctant to contact DEC because they don't want to receive
a bill. She said a homeowner is required by state law to pay
for the cost to cleanup a spill of a hazardous substance and to
repair the environment, which would not be changed by the bill.
The change made by HB 305 would be that SPAR would no longer
have to bill a responsible homeowner for providing technical
assistance. Technical assistance includes supporting a
homeowner who is overwhelmed by a situation of which he/she has
no expertise, financially or emotionally. Further, homeowners
do not have the experience or skill needed to address the
problem. After contact by a homeowner, SPAR inspects the site
of the spill and provides advice; currently, SPAR is required to
send a bill, which prevents homeowners from asking for help.
Ms. Ryan said SPAR seeks relief from its mandate of recovering
its expenses of providing assistance to homeowners, which she
opined would help homeowners respond to the spill more
efficiently, and prevent additional damage due to a delay in
reporting a spill. She pointed out SPAR is the only division in
DEC that is required to recover its cost - other environmental
programs are funded through a permit system - but consumers do
pay a "permit fee" when they buy gas and pay almost one penny
per gallon for SPAR's assistance. Finally, SPAR has found
insurance companies are unwilling to provide insurance to
homeowners against home heating oil spills, thus homeowners are
faced with an expensive financial burden as the cleanup at a
home can cost from $10,000 to $60,000, depending on the
circumstances, for example, leaks migrating under house
foundations are dangerous to dwellers.
2:39:33 PM
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH directed attention to a summary from DEC to
the co-chairs dated 2/7/18 which reported in 2017, there were 37
crude oil spills totaling 1,655 gallons, and 1,503 non-crude oil
spills totaling 188,379 gallons [document not provided]. He
asked whether homeowner spills are included in the non-crude oil
spill summary.
MS. RYAN said yes. She explained SPAR's annual report
identifies spills by type of product, and refined fuel is the
predominant product spilled. In addition, spills are identified
by types of industry and location. Home heating oil tank spills
typically account for approximately 2 percent of overall spills,
which she cautioned may be seriously underreported.
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH asked whether DEC would recover costs for a
spill, for example, at a school.
MS. RYAN said HB 305 does not affect DEC penalty statutes;
however, a spill of any volume could draw a penalty.
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH asked if, under HB 305, one would not be
billed for a call to DEC to report an oil spill, but would be
subject to a penalty.
MS. RYAN said HB 305 only addresses cost recovery and does not
change DEC's ability to enforce a penalty if warranted.
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH surmised the intent of HB 305 is to reduce
homeowners' anxiety - that is related to a spill - by allowing
the state to provide assistance without cost; in addition, the
state would no longer be compelled to bill a homeowner for
assistance.
MS. RYAN said yes.
2:45:31 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER suggested homeowners have other worries
after an oil spill, such as whether their property is condemned.
MS. RYAN said the bill is specific about cost recovery for
providing technical assistance; the homeowner is still liable
for cleaning up the release. [DEC] maintains a database of
sites when contamination remains above cleanup level in order to
protect human health.
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER gave an example of a property where
monitoring was needed for 10 years.
MS. RYAN explained institutional controls and monitoring are
required in difficult situations where the contamination level
remains high, or during treatment. If HB 305 becomes law, SPAR
would not have to send a bill each year for monitoring reports.
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH expressed support for the intent and
purpose of HB 305; he asked whether callers are identified when
assistance is requested.
MS. RYAN acknowledged SPAR frequently provides assistance to
anonymous callers.
2:51:12 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 2:51 p.m. to 2:52 p.m.
[CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON opened public testimony on HB 322.]
2:52:31 PM
FABIENNE PETER-CONTESSE informed the committee she works for the
state and is testifying as a private citizen and a 36-year
resident of Juneau. She expressed support for HB 305, which
would allow DEC to waive cost recovery for small oil spills in
residential units. Ms. Peter-Contesse said the underground oil
tank leaked at her home in Juneau and she reported the spill to
DEC. She received advice from DEC, hired a contractor to dig
out and clean the tank, and began remediation. Remediation cost
tens of thousands of dollars for cleanup, equipment, disposal,
and soil testing, none of which was covered by homeowner's
insurance. The staff at DEC were "exceptional" and in 2017, she
received a bill for their assistance. Ms. Peter-Contesse said
she did everything she was advised to do, and staff at DEC said
they were required to recover their costs. After receiving more
advice and more bills, she decided not to contact DEC further.
At that point, "it put a barrier between us and DEC that
shouldn't exist." Although she is a responsible homeowner who
wishes to clean up the property, she is not willing to continue
to communicate with DEC and get charged. She acknowledged the
state's fiscal crisis and the need to increase revenue; however,
DEC garners no more than $60,000-$70,000 per year from cost
recovery and residents already pay into the SPAR fund. Ms.
Peter-Contesse said the existing statute does not help DEC and
the state achieve the goal of cleaning up the oil spill and
advising residents how to do so.
2:57:11 PM
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON asked if Ms. Peter-Contesse was levied a
penalty for the spill.
MS. PETER-CONTESSE said no. She was unsure of the regulations
addressing residential oil spills.
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON observed this is evidence DEC exercises
restraint when issuing penalties. He said the foregoing
testimony is compelling.
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH urged for uniformity of laws for those who
accidently spill oil. He said he supported HB 305, and urged
the committee to treat responsible parties equitably.
3:00:30 PM
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH asked how much more remediation would have
cost without help from DEC.
MS. PETER-CONTESSE said she saved money by getting assistance
from DEC and doing most of the work without a contractor. She
cautioned getting a bill from DEC may prevent others from doing
the right thing.
[HB 305 was held over.]
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| AK Trucking Assn, 49 CFR Part 130.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| AK Trucking Assn testimony.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| HB 322 - AOGA Testimony - Final - 2.7.2018.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| 1 2.7.2018 - DEC Response to H RES re HB322.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| 2 OHSRRF 4th Qtr 2017.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| HB 322 Sectional Analysis.docx |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| HB 322 Sponsor Statement.docx |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/12/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| HB 322 HRES PwrPt for Feb 2.pdf |
HRES 2/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/12/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| HB 322 DEC Spill Penalties Overview 2.2.18.pdf |
HRES 2/2/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/12/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| SPAR Spill Penalties Overview Presentation.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| HB 322 Sectional PwrPt.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| HB322 Fiscal Note - DEC-SPAR 2.1.18.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
| HB305 Transmittal Letter 1.25.2018.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/23/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/26/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 305 |
| HB305 ver A 1.25.2018.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/23/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/26/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 305 |
| HB305 Sectional Analysis ver A 1.25.2018.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/23/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/26/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 305 |
| HB305 Fiscal Note DEC-SPAR 1.25.2018.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/23/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/26/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 305 |
| HB305 Supporting Document - Fact Sheet 1.25.2018.pdf |
HRES 2/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/23/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 2/26/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 305 |