Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

03/05/2024 10:00 AM House FISHERIES

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11:01:04 AM Start
11:01:44 AM SJR14
11:53:47 AM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                                                                            
                         March 5, 2024                                                                                          
                           11:01 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sarah Vance, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative CJ McCormick                                                                                                     
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 14                                                                                                  
Calling on the United States Congress and all federal agencies                                                                  
to adopt  policies and engage  in certain efforts to  improve the                                                               
competitiveness and resiliency of the state's seafood industry.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SJR 14                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SUPPORT STATE SEAFOOD INDUSTRY                                                                                     
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) BISHOP                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
02/15/24       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/15/24       (S)       FIN                                                                                                    
02/23/24       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
02/23/24       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/23/24       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
02/26/24       (S)       FIN RPT 6DP                                                                                            
02/26/24       (S)       DP: HOFFMAN, OLSON, WILSON, KIEHL,                                                                     
                        MERRICK, BISHOP                                                                                         
02/26/24       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
02/26/24       (S)       Moved SJR 14 Out of Committee                                                                          
02/26/24       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
02/28/24       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
02/28/24       (S)       VERSION: SJR 14                                                                                        
03/01/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/01/24       (H)       FSH                                                                                                    
03/05/24       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLICK BISHOP                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, presented SJR 14.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JULIE DECKER, President                                                                                                         
Pacific Seafood Processors Association                                                                                          
Wrangell, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony in support of SJR
14.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
TRACY WELCH, Executive Director                                                                                                 
United Fishermen of Alaska                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony in support of SJR
14.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JOHN DALY, Vice President of Sales and Marketing                                                                                
OBI Seafoods                                                                                                                    
Seattle, Washington                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony in support of SJR
14.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY WOODROW, Executive Director                                                                                              
Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony in support of SJR
14.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ERIN SHINE, Staff                                                                                                               
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing on                                                                 
SJR 14 on behalf of Senator Bishop, prime sponsor.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:01:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SARAH   VANCE  called  the  House   Special  Committee  on                                                             
Fisheries  meeting  to  order  at  11:01  a.m.    Representatives                                                               
McCabe, Stutes, Carpenter, C. Johnson,  Himschoot, and Vance were                                                               
present at the  call to order.   Representative McCormick arrived                                                               
as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
             SJR 14-SUPPORT STATE SEAFOOD INDUSTRY                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:01:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE  announced that the  only order of business  would be                                                               
SENATE JOINT  RESOLUTION NO.  14, "Calling  on the  United States                                                               
Congress and  all federal agencies  to adopt policies  and engage                                                               
in certain efforts to improve  the competitiveness and resiliency                                                               
of the state's seafood industry."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:02:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLICK   BISHOP,  Alaska  State  Legislature,   as  prime                                                               
sponsor, introduced  SJR 14 and  read from the  sponsor statement                                                               
[included  in  the  committee  packet],  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska's seafood  industry is a vital  part of Alaska's                                                                    
     economy,  benefiting  fishermen,  coastal  communities,                                                                    
     plant  workers and  the many  businesses  that rely  on                                                                    
     seafood   production   statewide.    As   the   largest                                                                    
     contributor  to  the  United States'  seafood  harvest,                                                                    
     Alaska  plays  an  important  role  in  global  seafood                                                                    
     production, exporting to over 100 countries worldwide.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Despite   its   significance,  Alaska   seafood   faces                                                                    
     numerous   challenges  in   the  global   market.  High                                                                    
     interest  rates, inflation,  and increased  competition                                                                    
     from farmed  fish and  foreign countries  threatens the                                                                    
     economic  viability   of  our  fishermen   and  seafood                                                                    
     businesses.  These challenges  impact fishing  families                                                                    
     and  local economies  and jeopardize  our state's  food                                                                    
     security and supply chain integrity.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     In recognition  of these challenges, SJR  14 encourages                                                                    
     similar  treatment of  Alaska  seafood  by the  federal                                                                    
     government   as   other   sources  of   domestic   food                                                                    
     production   and  supports   efforts  by   the  federal                                                                    
     government  to establish  an Office  of Seafood  Policy                                                                    
     and  Program  Integration   within  the  United  States                                                                    
     Department  of Agriculture  (USDA). This  could play  a                                                                    
     crucial  role  in  ensuring that  domestic  seafood  is                                                                    
     treated  equitably   while  competing  in   the  global                                                                    
     market.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     USDA   provides  critical   support  for   agricultural                                                                    
     products  but   lacks  in   its  support   for  seafood                                                                    
     products. Some  of the issues  within the USDA  are the                                                                    
     inability  of fishermen  and processors  to participate                                                                    
     in  certain  loan,  grant,   or  tax  credit  programs;                                                                    
     suboptimal   timing   of  federal   nutrition   program                                                                    
     purchases; and a lack of  programs to help the industry                                                                    
     develop new  products and update  aging infrastructure.                                                                    
     An  Office of  Seafood Policy  and Program  Integration                                                                    
     would  provide needed  leadership on  addressing issues                                                                    
     with USDA programs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     SJR  14  also  encourages greater  federal  interagency                                                                    
     cooperation  and greater  emphasis  on various  support                                                                    
     mechanisms for  the seafood industry from  USDA and the                                                                    
     National   Oceanic   and   Atmospheric   Administration                                                                    
     (NOAA). This  is increasingly  necessary if  the Alaska                                                                    
     seafood  industry  is   to  survive  these  significant                                                                    
     economic challenges.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Additionally,  SJR  14  supports an  increased  seafood                                                                    
     presence   in   the   Office    of   the   U.S.   Trade                                                                    
     Representative which could  help address the unbalanced                                                                    
     tariffs that  result in higher export  fees for Alaskan                                                                    
     seafood than for competing seafood imports.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SJR  14  aims  to   support  the  Alaska  Congressional                                                                    
     Delegation  in  their   strategic  efforts  to  improve                                                                    
     federal  programs to  give the  seafood industry  equal                                                                    
     support that many other U.S. food products receive.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:06:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE referenced previous discussion about U.S.                                                                 
trade and that Alaska seafood was not even mentioned in data.                                                                   
He asked whether it was still being ignored.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP replied that invited testifiers may better speak                                                                 
to the question.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:08:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE welcomed invited testifiers.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:08:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JULIE DECKER, President,  Pacific Seafood Processors Association,                                                               
gave  invited  testimony in  support  of  SJR  14.   She  gave  a                                                               
description  of Pacific  Seafood  Processors Association  (PSPA).                                                               
She   spoke  about   investments,   technology,  marketing,   and                                                               
contributions.    She  said  the   industry  is  facing  economic                                                               
conditions,  and  this  time,  it  is  across  multiple  species.                                                               
Millions  of  dollars are  lost  and  in  2023  alone it  was  $2                                                               
billion.   Economic conditions in  2024 are unlikely  to improve,                                                               
she  opined.    She  stressed  the need  for  state  and  federal                                                               
government  action  being  critical  at this  time  in  order  to                                                               
support the seafood industry and meet current challenges.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:11:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TRACY  WELCH, Executive  Director,  United  Fishermen of  Alaska,                                                               
gave invited testimony  in support of SJR 14 and  stated that the                                                               
fishing industry  faced unprecedented  times.   She said  over 17                                                               
processing  plants are  up  for sale  currently  and workers  are                                                               
searching  for other  opportunities.   The international  markets                                                               
are not in the U.S. fishing  industry's control, but in the U.S.,                                                               
many things can be controlled as outlined in SJR 14.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:13:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOHN DALY, Vice  President of Sales and  Marketing, OBI Seafoods,                                                               
gave invited testimony in support of  SJR 14 and provided a brief                                                               
background on his service in Alaska  in the seafood industry.  He                                                               
noted international  percentages that  have fluctuated  in recent                                                               
years due  to price behavior from  Russia.  He went  over species                                                               
of salmon  and noted  some had  a 50 percent  price decline.   He                                                               
said  that U.S.  markets operate  on a  "just in  time" inventory                                                               
basis so  producers are holding  inventory for longer.   He added                                                               
that interest rates  are higher and there was a  drop in consumer                                                               
spending.  He stressed that  the most immediate pathway to relief                                                               
would  be  via the  U.S.  Department  of Agriculture  (USDA)  and                                                               
briefly  explained  his  rationale.   He  reiterated  his  strong                                                               
support for SJR 14.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:18:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT   noted  there  was  a   commitment  to                                                               
providing fish into the future through USDA.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DALY  opined that the  problem is two-fold and  restated that                                                               
the  inventory was  backed up;  however,  the USDA  does offer  a                                                               
quick  relief  and  adds  to  the  long-term  goal,  which  is  a                                                               
dependable supply chain process.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:20:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY  WOODROW,  Executive  Director, Alaska  Seafood  Marketing                                                               
Institute,  gave invited  testimony  in  support of  SJR  1.   He                                                               
stated  that the  Alaska Seafood  Marketing Institute's  (ASMI's)                                                               
job is  to drive demand and  expand Alaska's seafood market.   He                                                               
stressed that the  problem was the global  market being extremely                                                               
difficult and challenging  for Alaksa seafood.  He  used China as                                                               
an  example and  spoke to  higher  tariff rates.   He  referenced                                                               
international trade policy and noted  the Japanese yen being low,                                                               
which  made  it  more  difficult for  Alaska  seafood  to  expand                                                               
internationally.   He  encouraged the  legislature's support  and                                                               
speaking  to the  issues  that  will help  the  industry to  have                                                               
security in the future.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:23:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE  emphasized Alaska's  significant  seafood                                                               
industry and  that the  U.S. trade  representative does  not even                                                               
mention it on the website, and  he asked, "How do we solve this?"                                                               
He said the  state's industry must be recognized, and  if not, he                                                               
questioned how negotiating tariffs can even take place.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WOODROW  agreed  and  offered  his  belief  it  is  why  the                                                               
resolution is  of utmost importance.   When it comes  to seafood,                                                               
he said  that the Alaska industry  is ignored and not  treated as                                                               
fairly as other agricultural products.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:26:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HIMSCHOOT  referred   to  Norway   investing  in                                                               
marketing  to the  U.S.  and  asked Mr.  Woodrow  what his  total                                                               
budget was.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WOODROW  said for the current  fiscal year, it was  just over                                                               
$21 million.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked for  particulars regarding who was                                                               
represented by ASMI.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WOODROW  responded  that  ASMI's  direction  was  to  market                                                               
Alaska's seafood  as a holistic  brand.  He added  that resources                                                               
are  provided for  industry members,  no matter  their size,  and                                                               
there was a growing sector for direct marketers.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  expressed  concern about  Alaska  king                                                               
salmon's  place  in  the  market  and  asked  whether  there  was                                                               
anything being done to market wild caught king salmon.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. WOODROW answered  that marketing wild caught  king salmon was                                                               
increasingly a niche market and  offered brief statistics of wild                                                               
salmon  versus farmed  salmon and  their origins.   He  said king                                                               
salmon does  well in high end  markets such as restaurants  so it                                                               
can be kept at premium pricing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:31:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE spoke  to trying  to partner  with USDA,  whether it                                                               
would increase the value of Alaska  fish, and what the  portfolio                                                               
plan was as a potential buyer.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WOODROW said  the  work  with USDA  is  to  become a  better                                                               
customer.  He explained that  more programs would raise the value                                                               
of Alaska  seafood and  the goal  is to  find more  customers and                                                               
have a higher demand.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE  noted  previous   comments  about  fishermen  being                                                               
treated the same as farmers and  what that would look like to the                                                               
seafood industry.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. WOODROW noted certain relief  programs provided to land-based                                                               
farmers that  are not provided  to the seafood industry  and gave                                                               
an  example of  crop  insurance.   He  said  fishermen need  more                                                               
assurance that they can get back on the water season to season.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:34:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CARPENTER  said   the  resolution   spoke  about                                                               
coordinating  committees  and  asked whether  the  2023  national                                                               
export strategies have been summarized.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:35:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ERIN   SHINE,  Staff,   Senator   Click   Bishop,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of Senator  Bishop, prime sponsor  of SJR
14, said  she had a  copy of the Chapter  9 short section  of the                                                               
report that she could provide to the committee.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  reiterated that he would  like to learn                                                               
more about  what the strategies were  before he signed on  to the                                                               
resolution.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:36:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE  referenced   page  2,  lines  28  and   29  of  the                                                               
resolution, noting  it sounded  promising, but  expressed concern                                                               
about being a type  of subsidy for the state that  may not be the                                                               
best long-term plan.  She commented that it sounded "broad."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SHINE responded  that it  was included  as more  of a  broad                                                               
resolve for any  market or any way to increase  the promotion and                                                               
purchase of Alaska seafood.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE agreed  that every available market  should be looked                                                               
into, but there  was a growing concern with what  was seen in the                                                               
farming industry relying on government  subsidies that has turned                                                               
into corporate farming, and individual  farmers are not thriving.                                                               
She said that that shift,  over time, has not benefited families,                                                               
and she  stressed that  she did  not want to  see it  happen with                                                               
Alaska's  fisheries.   She wished  to increase  the value  of the                                                               
product and its return to Alaska's fishermen.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:40:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MCCABE  inquired   about   amendments  and   the                                                               
possibility  of  adding  the   Pacific  States  Marine  Fisheries                                                               
Commission (PSMFC) to "the copies sent."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE said she planned to set an amendment deadline.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:41:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER acknowledged  that the  state's fishing                                                               
industry was  currently suffering,  and it  was a  complex issue.                                                               
He summarized that  the body's attempt to  alleviate suffering by                                                               
requesting help is  acknowledging there is a  trade imbalance and                                                               
marketing  challenge,  and  there  would be  a  potential  for  a                                                               
subsidy situation  if things  did not  go as  planned.   He noted                                                               
massive  feedlots  and  fewer  family farms  being  a  result  of                                                               
federal involvement  in the U.S.  farming industry  where smaller                                                               
family farms cannot  compete anymore.  He shared that  he was not                                                               
sure he could  be on board and again expressed  the need for more                                                               
information  to determine  what the  legislature would  be asking                                                               
via SJR 14.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE referred  to  page  2, lines  16  through 20,  about                                                               
supply chain integrity  and strategies and asked  who could speak                                                               
to the issue of needing assistance.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:45:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WOODROW offered his interpretation  and pointed out that USDA                                                               
had multiple  different programs  to help farmers.   He  said the                                                               
supply  chain for  seafood is  complex and  does not  always make                                                               
sense to people, such as why  fish is being sold at higher rates,                                                               
but the  fisherman is not making  much money.  He  opined that it                                                               
could be solved with some  federal government help, and that many                                                               
of these "asks"  are also being asked by other  seafood groups in                                                               
the  U.S.   He stressed  to  fix what  was broken  in the  supply                                                               
chain.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE  brought up origin  and whether it was  a requirement                                                               
placed on the supply chain.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.   WOODROW  responded   that   there   were  different   label                                                               
requirements when  it came to origin,  and part of it  dealt with                                                               
trade and how to track the origin  of fish.  He said there was an                                                               
ability to track from origin, but it was not being done.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:50:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE commented on  the billions of fish released                                                               
into habitat  by private individuals  from Russia  and questioned                                                               
how local fishermen could combat that.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:51:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER restated that he  was leery of a central                                                               
government-managed  fishery economy.   He  noted  he thought  the                                                               
resolution  had  good points,  but  he  did not  want  government                                                               
strings.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:53:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced that SJR 14 was held over.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:53:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Fisheries meeting was adjourned at 11:54                                                                   
a.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SJR 14 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HFSH 3/5/2024 10:00:00 AM
SJR 14
SJR 14 - v.A.pdf HFSH 3/5/2024 10:00:00 AM
SJR 14
SJR 14 - Supporting Document - Seafood Impacts.pdf HFSH 3/5/2024 10:00:00 AM
SJR 14
SJR14 - ASMI Letter of Support.pdf HFSH 3/5/2024 10:00:00 AM
SJR 14
SJR 14 - Zero Fiscal Note (02-18-24).pdf HFSH 3/5/2024 10:00:00 AM
SJR 14