Legislature(2025 - 2026)BARNES 124

02/13/2026 04:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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04:18:42 PM Start
04:19:18 PM HB293
04:33:12 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+= HB 293 GENETIC COUNS: LICENSING; ADVISORY CNCL. TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
     HB 293-GENETIC COUNSELOR: LICENSING; ADVISORY COUNCIL.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:19:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL announced that the  only order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  293, "An Act relating to the  practice of genetic                                                               
counseling;  relating to  the  licensure  of genetic  counselors;                                                               
establishing  the Genetic  Counseling Advisory  Council; relating                                                               
to the duties of the  State Medical Board; relating to telehealth                                                               
by licensed  genetic counselors; relating to  medical malpractice                                                               
liability of  licensed genetic  counselors; relating  to immunity                                                               
from civil  liability for a licensed  genetic counselor providing                                                               
free health care services;  and prohibiting unfair discrimination                                                               
under group health insurance against genetic counselors."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HALL announced  that the  committee would  hear invited                                                               
testimony on HB 293.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:19:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAM   VENTGEN,   Executive   Director,   Alaska   State   Medical                                                               
Association (ASMA), gave invited testimony  in support of HB 293.                                                               
She   said  ASMA   represents  both   physicians  and   physician                                                               
assistants in Alaska.  She  said that the association supports HB
293  as beneficial  to all  Alaskans who  use genetic  counseling                                                               
services.   She said that this  is a critical service  that needs                                                               
to be  provided by people  with credentials and licensing  is the                                                               
best  way  to  establish  this.    She  said  that  the  proposed                                                               
legislation also  would allow billing  for services  to insurance                                                               
companies.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  VENTGEN explained  that currently,  genetic counselors  work                                                               
primarily in cancer  care centers and conduct  natal and prenatal                                                               
counseling as  well.   She said  that it  is most  appropriate to                                                               
include  licensing of  genetic counselors  under ASMA,  since the                                                               
association works closely with physicians.   She said that in the                                                               
past, the licensed paramedics before  they were moved over to the                                                               
Department of Health.  She reasoned  that it would not be unusual                                                               
for the board to license a  subgroup of professionals.  She asked                                                               
for support for HB 293.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:21:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  asked Ms.  Ventgen whether ASMA  had any                                                               
concerns regarding the scope of practice proposed under HB 293.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. VENTGEN  responded that  ASMA had  no concerns  regarding the                                                               
scope of  practice.   She added  that the  scope of  practice for                                                               
pharmacists is  well defined in  their standards of  practice and                                                               
they work closely with physicians.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:23:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK said that  she has concerns about creating                                                               
a board  for a profession  that has  so few people  practicing in                                                               
Alaska.   She asked for  the Division of  Corporations, Business,                                                               
and Professional  Licensing perspective given previous  work with                                                               
boards.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:24:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN ROBB,  Director, Division  of Corporations,  Business, and                                                               
Professional  Licensing;  Department  of  Commerce,  Community  &                                                               
Economic  Development,  responded  that currently  there  are  21                                                               
regulatory boards  within the  division.   She noted  the current                                                               
bill proposes an  advisory board and currently  the division does                                                               
not have any professions that have  an advisory board.  She noted                                                               
that the  regulatory authority would  rest with ASMA as  the bill                                                               
is currently  structured.   She said that  the smallest  group of                                                               
professionals  with a  board  is the  Board  of Certified  Direct                                                               
Entry  Midwives, and  there were  about 38  licenses within  this                                                               
profession.   She noted that  having a regulatory board  for this                                                               
small  group of  professionals has  proven somewhat  challenging.                                                               
She reiterated that  HB 293 proposes an advisory  board, and some                                                               
of the  conflict-of-interest issues would  not exist to  the same                                                               
degree as a regulatory board.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  asked the bill sponsor  whether the board                                                               
proposed under HB 293 would approve licensure.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:25:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS directed  Representative  Carrick's question  to                                                               
his staff.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:25:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EVAN ANDERSON,  Staff, Representative  Zack Fields,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of  Representative Fields,  prime sponsor                                                               
of HB  293, responded that  there are  two different terms:   the                                                               
advisory  council  and  the  board.   He  noted  that  under  the                                                               
proposed bill, all licensing goes  through ASMA, but the advisory                                                               
council  is  tasked  with  helping   sort  through  the  material                                                               
pertaining to licenses.   He said that given a  discussion with a                                                               
previous  testifier, they  mentioned  that  the advisory  council                                                               
would help  sift through applications  and support  the licensing                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:26:37                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK asked  Ms. Ventgen  whether ASMA  had the                                                               
capacity to accommodate the influx of licenses.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. VENTGEN  responded that she expects  that a lot of  this work                                                               
will be delegated  by the guidance of the advisory  council.  She                                                               
said  that  currently,  the   licensing  examiner  and  executive                                                               
administrator  for ASMA  processes these  licenses, unless  there                                                               
are any  red flags on the  application.  She did  not expect that                                                               
this would be a significant increase in workload.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:28:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE asked Ms. Robb  about the fiscal note and                                                               
whether the  operating expenditures match the  designated general                                                               
fund (DGF) source, and she assumed  that there would be a fee for                                                               
licenses.     She   asked  for   clarification  on   the  funding                                                               
mechanisms.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ROBB responded  that this  is correct  and fees  charged for                                                               
licenses generate revenue.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE  asked  why  there  was  so  much  money                                                               
designated for travel and whether  the intent is for the advisory                                                               
board members  to travel  to meet  all in one  place.   She noted                                                               
that there was $37,000 designated for travel purposes.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ROBB  responded  that  currently  Administrative  Order  358                                                               
remains  in effect,  which imposes  a travel  freeze.   She noted                                                               
that the boards have not been  meeting in person.  She noted that                                                               
if  the  order  is  rescinded,   then  the  board  would  require                                                               
authority to spend receipts pertaining to travel.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE asked whether  the authority would be for                                                               
the division to spend up to $37,000 on travel.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ROBB  responded  that  this  is correct  and  if  no  travel                                                               
occurred then no expenses would be used on travel.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  asked whether the travel  funds could be                                                               
used in a different manner.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ROBB responded  that there  is no  tracking by  program, but                                                               
expenses are tracked closely to  ensure licensees are paying only                                                               
for the cost associated with their own program.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:30:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS asked Ms. Robb  whether deleting the authority to                                                               
travel would  be sufficient  to make  the fiscal  note zero.   He                                                               
asked if  there were ways  to make the  fiscal note fully  DGF or                                                               
zero  in the  interest of  maximizing the  likelihood of  getting                                                               
licensure established.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBB responded  that the entire fiscal note is  DGF and there                                                               
was no unrestricted general fund (UGF) involvement.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS asked whether  eliminating travel authority would                                                               
result in a zero fiscal note.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ROBB responded  that  there would  be  expenses outside  the                                                               
scope of  travel.   Furthermore, the division  would need  to pay                                                               
for public notice of meetings.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:31:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE said  that  there is  an expectation  of                                                               
$62,000 in  receipts and it  seems like an expensive  license for                                                               
seven people.  She asked  for clarification and whether there was                                                               
an expectation that many out-of-state people would get licenses.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:32:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  responded that  given previous  testimony, there                                                               
was an expectation  that there may be dozens or  even hundreds of                                                               
people who may get licensure.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:32:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HALL  opened  public  testimony   on  HB  293.    After                                                               
ascertaining  that nobody  wished to  testify, she  closed public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL announced that HB 293 was held over.                                                                              

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