Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124
02/07/2024 01:00 PM House RESOURCES
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| Audio | Topic |
|---|---|
| Start | |
| HB272 | |
| HB281 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| += | HB 272 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 281 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 223 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED |
HB 281-STATE LAND FOR REMOTE REC CABIN SITES
1:34:13 PM
CHAIR MCKAY announced that the final order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 281, "An Act relating to the permitting, lease,
and sale of state land for remote recreational cabin sites; and
providing for an effective date" and opened public testimony.
CHAIR MCKAY opened public testimony on HB 281.
1:35:00 PM
JAMES SQUYRES, representing self, testified during the hearing
on HB 281. He opined that the bill has a number of "red flags"
and requires further discussion. He said the fiscal note is
"way off," as it does not include provisions for the increased
efforts taken by the Division of Forestry and Fire Protection in
fighting wildfires and triaging limited resources. He cited AS
41.15.010 and questioned whether a new cabin would increase the
fire protection level from limited to a full or critical
protection rating. He shared an anecdotal example to illustrate
the increased burden that would be placed on the state as a
result of this "gold rush." He reiterated his belief that the
potential unintended consequences of the proposed legislation
had not been thoroughly vetted by the committee.
1:37:50 PM
CHAIR MCKAY closed public testimony.
1:38:14 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER moved to adopt Amendment 1 to HB 281,
labeled 33-GH2026\A.1, Bullard, 2/5/24, which read:
Page 1, line 6, through page 2, line 5:
Delete all material and insert:
"PURPOSE. The longstanding policy of the state,
declared in art. VIII, secs. 1, 2, and 9, Constitution
of the State of Alaska, and AS 38.05 (Alaska Land Act)
has been to encourage the settlement of the state's
land and the development of its resources by making
land available for the maximum use consistent with the
public interest. The purpose of this Act is to use the
full extent of the authority under the Constitution of
the State of Alaska to provide residents of the state
a more efficient and fair process to obtain an
interest in remote state land for recreation."
1:38:36 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER objected for purposes of discussion.
1:39:47 PM
The committee took a brief at-ease at 1:39 p.m.
1:40:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER said Amendment 1 tightens up the purpose
statement of the legislation to its essentials and makes it
easier to understand.
1:41:03 PM
RACHEL LONGACRE, Chief of Operations, Division of Mining, Land
and Water, Department of Natural Resources (DNR), said DNR
supports Amendment 1.
1:41:25 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER removed his objection. There being no
further objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.
1:41:39 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER moved to adopt Amendment 2 to HB 281,
labeled 33-GH2026\A.2, Bullard, 2/5/24, which read:
Page 7, line 30, following "applicants":
Insert "for the applicants' own noncommercial
use"
1:41:44 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER objected for purposes of discussion.
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER said Amendment 2 clarifies that this bill
is for recreational use only, not for commercial purposes.
CHAIR MCKAY asked whether DNR had any objection to Amendment 2.
MS. LONGACRE answered no.
1:42:36 PM
REPRESENTATIVE ARMSTRONG asked whether the bill would preclude
Airbnb and short-term rentals.
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER answered, yes, if the individual is using
[the property] to make money it would be considered commercial
use.
1:43:01 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER removed his objection. There being no
further objection, Amendment 2 was adopted.
1:43:12 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER moved to adopt Amendment 3 to HB 281,
labeled 33-GH2026\A.3, Bullard, 2/5/24, which read:
Page 9, line 31, following "Act":
Insert ", but notwithstanding AS 38.05.600(f),
added by sec. 6 of this Act, may not be renewed to
provide a lessee a remote recreational cabin site for
more than 30 years in total under AS 38.05.600 as it
read on the day before the effective date of this Act
and AS 38.05.600 as repealed and reenacted by sec. 6
of this Act"
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER objected for purposes of discussion.
1:43:16 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER said Amendment 3 clarifies that the total
lease period would be three years.
CHAIR MCKAY asked whether DNR had any objection to Amendment 3.
MS. LONGACRE answered no.
1:44:26 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER removed his objection. There being no
further objection, Amendment 3 was adopted.
1:44:54 PM
The committee took a brief at-ease at 1:44 p.m.
1:45:42 PM
CHAIR MCKAY sought further comments from committee members.
1:45:55 PM
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE said he supports the proposed legislation
because he wants to get land into Alaskans hands. He disagreed
with the notion that wildland firefighting should be included in
the fiscal note.
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER asked Ms. Longacre to respond to the
testimony given by Mr. Squires.
MS. LONGACRE offered to follow up with a response by Friday.
1:49:32 PM
CHAIR MCKAY announced that HB 281 would be held over.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 281 A.3.pdf |
HRES 2/7/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 281 |
| HB 281 A.2.pdf |
HRES 2/7/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 281 |
| HB 281 A.1.pdf |
HRES 2/7/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 281 |
| HB272 ADFG Response to HRES 02.07.24.pdf |
HRES 2/7/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 272 |
| HB 223 Public Testimony (Willis).pdf |
HRES 2/7/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 223 |
| House Resources - HB 281 comments .pdf |
HRES 2/7/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 281 |
| HB 281 Public Comment - Arno.pdf |
HRES 2/7/2024 1:00:00 PM |
HB 281 |