02/06/2008 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY
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| HB268 | |
| HB303 | |
| Adjourn |
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| *+ | HB 268 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 303 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | HCR 16 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED | ||
| += | HB 281 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HJR 28 | TELECONFERENCED | |
ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE
February 6, 2008
1:08 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Jay Ramras, Chair
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom, Vice Chair
Representative John Coghill
Representative Ralph Samuels
Representative Lindsey Holmes
Representative Mike Doogan
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Bob Lynn
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 28
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the State of
Alaska relating to the production tax revenue fund, dedicating a
portion of the petroleum production tax to the fund, and
limiting appropriations from the fund.
- MOVED CSHJR 28(JUD) OUT OF COMMITTEE
HOUSE BILL NO. 268
"An Act relating to damaging a vehicle on public land by
starting a fire or causing an explosion."
- MOVED HB 268 OUT OF COMMITTEE
HOUSE BILL NO. 303
"An Act relating to marine products and motorized recreational
products; and providing for an effective date."
- HEARD AND HELD
HOUSE BILL NO. 281
"An Act extending the statute of limitations for the filing of
complaints with the Alaska Public Offices Commission involving
state election campaigns."
- BILL HEARING POSTPONED TO 2/8/08
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 16
Proposing an amendment to the Uniform Rules of the Alaska State
Legislature relating to voting.
- BILL HEARING CANCELED
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: HJR 28
SHORT TITLE: CONST. AM: PRODUCTION TAX REVENUE FUND
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) SAMUELS
01/11/08 (H) PREFILE RELEASED 1/11/08
01/15/08 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/15/08 (H) JUD, FIN
01/25/08 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120
01/25/08 (H) -- MEETING CANCELED --
01/28/08 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120
01/28/08 (H) Heard & Held
01/28/08 (H) MINUTE(JUD)
02/04/08 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120
02/04/08 (H) Heard & Held
02/04/08 (H) MINUTE(JUD)
02/06/08 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120
BILL: HB 268
SHORT TITLE: MOTOR VEHICLE ARSON ON PUBLIC LAND
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) STOLTZE
01/04/08 (H) PREFILE RELEASED 1/4/08
01/15/08 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/15/08 (H) JUD
02/06/08 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120
BILL: HB 303
SHORT TITLE: MARINE & MOTORIZED RECREATIONAL PRODUCTS
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) NEUMAN
01/11/08 (H) PREFILE RELEASED 1/11/08
01/15/08 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/15/08 (H) L&C
01/30/08 (H) L&C AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 17
01/30/08 (H) Moved CSHB 303(L&C) Out of Committee
01/30/08 (H) MINUTE(L&C)
01/31/08 (H) L&C RPT CS(L&C) 4DP 3AM
01/31/08 (H) DP: BUCH, RAMRAS, NEUMAN, OLSON
01/31/08 (H) AM: GARDNER, LEDOUX, GATTO
01/31/08 (H) JUD REFERRAL ADDED
02/06/08 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120
WITNESS REGISTER
REPRESENTATIVE BILL STOLTZE
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of HB 268.
BEN MULLIGAN, Staff
to Representative Bill Stoltze
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Assisted with the presentation of HB 268 on
behalf of the sponsor, Representative Stoltze.
RUSS MADDOX
Resurrection Bay Conservation Alliance (RBCA)
Seward, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 268.
WYN MENEFEE, Chief of Operations
Central Office
Division of Mining, Land and Water
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided comments during discussion of
HB 268.
ARTHUR M. QUAAS
Palmer, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in favor of HB 268.
KENNY BARBER
(No address provided)
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 268.
PATTY BARBER
(No address provided)
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 268.
GREGORY NELSON (ph), Co-Founder
Butte Area Residents Civic Organization (BARCO)
(No address provided)
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided comments during discussion of
HB 268.
DAVID TYLER, State Fire Marshal;
Director
Division of Fire and Life Safety
Department of Public Safety (DPS)
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 268.
RODNEY DIAL, Lieutenant, Deputy Commander
A Detachment
Division of Alaska State Troopers
Department of Public Safety (DPS)
Ketchikan, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Responded to questions during discussion of
HB 268.
GERALD LUCKHAUPT, Attorney
Legislative Legal Counsel
Legislative Legal and Research Services
Legislative Affairs Agency (LAA)
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Responded to questions as the drafter of
HB 268.
REPRESENTATIVE MARK NEUMAN
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of HB 303.
ACTION NARRATIVE
CHAIR JAY RAMRAS called the House Judiciary Standing Committee
meeting to order at 1:08:11 PM. Representatives Dahlstrom,
Coghill, Samuels, Holmes, Doogan, and Ramras were present at the
call to order. Representative Lynn was excused.
CHAIR RAMRAS made mention of proposed legislation that the House
Judiciary Standing Committee would be introducing in the near
future.
HJR 28 - CONST. AM: PRODUCTION TAX REVENUE FUND
1:10:27 PM
CHAIR RAMRAS announced that the first order of business would be
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 28, Proposing an amendment to the
Constitution of the State of Alaska relating to the production
tax revenue fund, dedicating a portion of the petroleum
production tax to the fund, and limiting appropriations from the
fund. [Left pending from the meeting on 2/4/08 was the motion
to adopt the proposed committee substitute (CS) for HJR 28,
Version 25-LS1217\E, Cook, 1/29/08, as the work draft; included
in members' packets was a new proposed committee substitute (CS)
for HJR 28, Version 25-LS1217\M, Cook, 2/5/08.]
1:10:32 PM
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM moved to adopt the proposed committee
substitute (CS) for HJR 28, Version 25-LS1217\M, Cook, 2/5/08,
as the work draft.
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES objected for the purpose of discussion.
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS, speaking as the sponsor, relayed that
Version M contains all the provisions the committee had
expressed favor with during the resolution's last hearing. In
Version M, the production tax revenue fund is separate from the
existing Constitutional Budget Reserve Fund (CBRF); there is no
longer a statutory reference to the "progressivity" monies, and
those monies are instead just described via language;
appropriations to the proposed fund will no longer be mandatory
as of January 1, 2015; the annual payout from the fund is
limited to 5 percent of a five-year average and won't begin
until 2013; and transitional language is included to allow
payouts based on a shorter average for the years 2013 and 2014.
He mentioned that he'd received some information from the
Department of Revenue (DOR) regarding the estimated payouts, and
some acronyms for the proposed fund.
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN indicated that he, too, has some acronyms
for the proposed fund.
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM sought assurance that Version M won't
release the legislature from its responsibility to pay back the
monies owed to the CBRF.
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS relayed that it won't because it doesn't
affect the existing provisions of the Alaska State Constitution
regarding the CBRF.
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL expressed disfavor with placing start and
stop dates into the Alaska State Constitution.
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS offered that as production continues to
decline, the production tax revenue might instead be needed to
balance the budget, hence the proposed stop date. Meanwhile,
establishment of the proposed fund will allow the legislature to
save a little bit of that revenue.
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL noted that historically the legislature
has been very good at managing its savings, the permanent fund
being a good example of that.
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES referred to page 2, lines 6-8, and noted
that the payout would be based on the first five of the
preceding six years.
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS said that language ensures that the
payout average will be based on firm numbers and not include an
estimate of a current fiscal year. He offered his understanding
that that language came out of [other legislation].
CHAIR RAMRAS characterized Version M as a clean piece of
legislation.
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES removed her objection to the adoption of
Version M as the work draft. There being no further objection,
Version M was before the committee.
1:20:08 PM
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM moved to report the proposed CS for
HJR 28, Version 25-LS1217\M, Cook, 2/5/08, out of committee with
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.
There being no objection, CSHJR 28(JUD) was reported from the
House Judiciary Standing Committee.
HB 268 - MOTOR VEHICLE ARSON ON PUBLIC LAND
1:20:36 PM
CHAIR RAMRAS announced that the next order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 268, "An Act relating to damaging a vehicle on
public land by starting a fire or causing an explosion."
1:20:44 PM
REPRESENTATIVE BILL STOLTZE, Alaska State Legislature, sponsor,
said of HB 268 that it is very important to the "Butte portion"
of his district and addresses an issue that was brought to his
attention [by constituents].
CHAIR RAMRAS noted that the Knik River Public Use Area has
experienced a great deal of lawlessness, included the lighting
of cars on fire.
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE concurred, adding that although some of
that activity has been curtailed, it still continues, blighting
the area as well creating a safety hazard for those who respond
to those fires. House Bill 268 is intended to address this
problem. Specifically, the bill adds to AS 11.46 the crime of
arson in the third degree, and makes it a class C felony. He
offered his hope that the bill will serve as a deterrent rather
than be imposed in that many instances, and mentioned that the
bill has been reviewed by community leaders and law enforcement
entities. He said he hears about this activity frequently and
spends much of his time dealing with issues arising in the Knik
River Public Use Area; the behavior of lighting cars on fire or
causing them to explode is behavior that can't be resolved
through regulation.
CHAIR RAMRAS asked whether the bill applies to both working
motor vehicles and abandoned motor vehicles.
1:26:34 PM
BEN MULLIGAN, Staff to Representative Bill Stoltze, Alaska State
Legislature, on behalf of Representative Stoltze, sponsor,
explained that it does, since the vehicles being lit on fire are
not always abandoned vehicles.
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES questioned whether the proposed crime
ought to be a class A misdemeanor - like the crime of criminally
negligent burning - rather than a class C felony.
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE offered that the behavior HB 268 is meant
to address is similar to the behavior outlined in the existing
arson statutes, which are both felonies, including causing
potential risks to public safety. He reiterated his hope that
the bill won't be applied in many instances but will instead
serve as a deterrent. In response to a question, he said the
bill is aimed at the person starting the fire and is not
focusing on why the vehicle is lit on fire.
MR. MULLIGAN added that the bill will apply regardless of why
the vehicle is lit on fire.
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN, referring to the photographs included in
members' packets, noted that some of the burned cars also have
bullet holes in them, and asked whether current law precludes
shooting vehicles in a public use area.
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE said he is not aware of any laws
addressing the shooting of vehicles, though that behavior
certainly contributes to the blight.
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN questioned whether those in charge of the
public use area are going to address that issue as well.
MR. MULLIGAN indicated that they are currently going through the
process of designating both safe and unsafe shooting areas.
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE relayed that they don't want the shooting
of vehicles continuing either.
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL opined that vandalizing vehicles rises to
the same level as lighting them on fire.
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE said his larger concern is the public
safety risk associated with burning vehicles, adding that that
is the issue the public wants to see resolved.
1:34:00 PM
RUSS MADDOX, Resurrection Bay Conservation Alliance (RBCA),
relayed that the RBCA supports HB 268. The burning of cars is
not just a problem in the Matanuska-Susitna region; it's also
been a big problem in Seward for a number of years. He offered
his observation that those who are abandoning their vehicles are
not always the same people who are lighting those vehicles on
fire and otherwise vandalizing them. One possible solution, he
proffered, would be to make it easier and cheaper to safely
dispose of vehicles, rather than merely punishing the end
product of their being burned. He surmised that this is a
statewide problem.
1:35:48 PM
WYN MENEFEE, Chief of Operations, Central Office, Division of
Mining, Land and Water, Department of Natural Resources (DNR),
relayed that the burning of vehicles is occurring on state
lands, and that removing such vehicles comes at considerable
cost. The State of Alaska, itself, has paid to remove about 50
such vehicles, the Fairbanks North Star Borough has removed
about 60 such vehicles from state lands, and private groups have
cleaned up over 100 such vehicles from the Knik area. Anything
that can be done to discourage the activity of burning cars will
be beneficial.
1:37:26 PM
ARTHUR M. QUAAS said he would be speaking in favor of HB 268.
He relayed that he lives on the south side of the Knik River and
can see the public use area on the other side of the river, and
that he used to call the Division of Alaska State Troopers on a
regular basis to report burning cars, but the response from the
division was always that law enforcement personnel didn't have
any way to access that area and couldn't do anything about that
activity anyway. After his name was broadcast over the police
radio a couple of times, he stopped making such calls, because
those who are out setting vehicles on fire were also monitoring
the police radio so that they'd know when to leave an area.
When watching a vehicle on fire, one is left wondering just how
long it will be before the surrounding area also catches on
fire. In conclusion, he reiterated that he is in favor of HB
268.
1:39:15 PM
KENNY BARBER, after relaying that he lives in the "Butte area"
and has helped remove some of the vehicles that have been set on
fire, said he supports HB 268. He posited that the setting of
vehicles on fire is a statewide problem, and opined that the
bill will help in the long run.
1:41:14 PM
PATTY BARBER said she supports HB 268, and opined that something
like it has been needed for a long time.
CHAIR RAMRAS surmised that the question the committee should
address is whether the behavior outlined in the bill warrants a
class C felony.
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE concurred.
1:42:31 PM
GREGORY NELSON (ph), Co-Founder, Butte Area Residents Civic
Organization (BARCO), indicated that BARCO requested legislation
such as HB 268. "Car burnings" have been a concern of residents
for many, many years, he added, and expressed appreciation for
making the burning of vehicles on state or municipal land a
class C felony. He went on to say:
For over 25 years we've been told by borough and state
officials that they don't have the resources nor the
tools to fight the epidemic of car burnings
everywhere. These activities has been accelerating,
endangering local firefighters, contaminating our
woods and waterways, placing our homes and lives in
danger, and condemning this great community and this
beautiful area to a reputation that belittles and
contradicts the values and standards which residents
in normal communities can rightfully and peacefully
enjoy.
MR. NELSON opined that passage of HB 268 will assure concerned
residents and other users of public spaces that when they
observe and report this particular criminal activity, they will
be assisting law enforcement agencies which will then arrest and
charge those committing this offense. He said that residents
have seen a steady increase in illegal activities in the area,
and that perhaps the behavior of vandalizing a vehicle on state
or municipal land should also be curtailed, adding that adequate
vehicle disposal has always been an issue.
[Chair Ramras turned the gavel over to Vice Chair Dahlstrom.]
1:45:19 PM
DAVID TYLER, State Fire Marshal; Director, Division of Fire and
Life Safety, Department of Public Safety (DPS), opined that
legislation such has HB 268 should have been introduced a long
time ago. Burning vehicles are dangerous, particularly for
firefighters, because vehicle fires create a lot of hazards.
For example, "shock-absorber" bumpers, when heated up, can
explode like grenades and take a firefighter out at the knees;
fuel tanks can fail, thus spilling fuel on the ground and
creating further hazard; many items that people carry in their
vehicles can also create a hazard. Just walking up to
extinguish a burning vehicle is an extremely dangerous task.
Furthermore, burning vehicles can start wild-land fires, and
although to-date there have not been any large wild-land fires,
they are cause for concern because they threaten wildlife, wild
lands, human life, and personal property. He concurred that the
Butte area isn't the only area of the state that is experiencing
this problem. In conclusion, he said he strongly supports HB
268.
[Vice Chair Dahlstrom returned the gavel to Chair Ramras.]
CHAIR RAMRAS asked what the current penalty is for burning a
vehicle.
MR. MULLIGAN offered his understanding that currently there is
no specific penalty, but that perhaps the activity could be
charged as criminal mischief.
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE reiterated that the bill establishes the
crime of arson in the third degree and makes it a class C
felony.
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL pointed out, though, that the crime of
criminal mischief in the third degree is also a class C felony,
and that HB 268 specifies that the arson be committed on state
or municipal land.
CHAIR RAMRAS asked whether one could be arrested for committing
a class A misdemeanor crime.
1:50:07 PM
RODNEY DIAL, Lieutenant, Deputy Commander, A Detachment,
Division of Alaska State Troopers, Department of Public Safety
(DPS), offered his understanding that for a class A misdemeanor,
a person can only be arrested if he/she commits the offense in
the presence of a law enforcement officer; if the officer didn't
witness the event, he/she would complete an investigation and
then forward that information to the district attorney's office
for prosecution. In response to a question, he said that if an
officer came across a burning vehicle, he/she would probably
first try to ensure the safety of those around the vehicle, then
call the appropriate resources to deal with the fire, and then
conduct an investigation regarding who owns the vehicle and who
started the fire. He offered his understanding that the crime
of criminally negligent burning - AS 11.46.430 - would only
apply if the vehicle belonged to someone else; currently, one
can burn his/her own vehicle.
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE noted that the question of whether a
particular behavior is intentional requires a high standard of
proof, and surmised, therefore, that HB 268 won't make it easier
to arrest and prosecute someone. Setting cars on fire, however,
creates risk to life and property, and it is that risk which
HB 268 is intended to address.
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN pointed out, though, that that same risk
is created regardless of where the car is located when it is set
on fire, and regardless of who owns the car. He asked whether
current law addresses situations in which vehicles are set on
fire on private property and when the vehicle is owned by the
person setting it on fire.
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE said the bill only addresses activity on
state and municipal land because that's where the offenses are
occurring, and characterized that limitation as a policy
decision.
LIEUTENANT DIAL said the troopers do not investigate individuals
destroying property on their own private property - there just
is not the same level of interest.
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN surmised that the burning of vehicles is
not occurring on private, federal, or Native corporation land.
LIEUTENANT DIAL indicated that the troopers haven't received any
such complaints.
The committee took an at-ease from 1:56 p.m. to 2:01 p.m.
2:01:53 PM
GERALD LUCKHAUPT, Attorney, Legislative Legal Counsel,
Legislative Legal and Research Services, Legislative Affairs
Agency (LAA), as the drafter, in response to a question,
explained that the sponsor wanted to establish a lesser form of
the crime of arson, and that militated that that crime be a
class C felony. However, should the committee decide that the
behavior outlined in HB 268 would be better equated with the
crime of criminally negligent burning, the bill could be altered
to that effect. He offered his understanding that the
difference in penalties for a class A misdemeanor as opposed to
a class C felony is that the former could warrant up to one year
in jail and a fine of up to $5,000, whereas the latter could
warrant up to five years in jail - though there is a presumptive
sentencing range of between zero and two years - and a fine of
up to $10,000.
LIEUTENANT DIAL, in response to comments and a question,
observed that the current criminally negligent burning statute
doesn't seem to be discouraging the activity of setting vehicles
on fire. [Notwithstanding existing AS 11.46.400] he said that
the troopers only charge a person with a felony if damage to
property belonging to another exceeds $500, and surmised that it
could be argued that the cost to the public of putting out such
a fire and disposing of a burned vehicle far exceeds $500 and
thus a felony charge would be appropriate.
MR. LUCKHAUPT added that if there was a reason to recommend one
type of charge over the other it would be that the crime of
criminally negligent burning already exists as a class A
misdemeanor and requires a lesser mental state than HB 268,
which requires that someone intentionally damage a motor vehicle
- though it matters not who's vehicle it is - by starting a fire
or causing an explosion while the vehicle is on state or
municipal land. Therefore, if the activity outlined in HB 268
becomes a class A misdemeanor, most such cases would be subsumed
by the criminally burning negligent statute and so the proposed
offense wouldn't be needed or used because it requires
additional proof.
2:07:29 PM
MR. LUCKHAUPT, in response to a comment, reiterated that HB 268
would apply regardless of who owns the vehicle being burned;
furthermore, if the penalty remains a class C felony, then the
bill would also continue to require a higher mens rea -
"intentionally". He opined that the bill proposes a reasonable
progression with regard to penalties and mental intent. Again,
if the penalty proposed in HB 268 were lowered to a class A
misdemeanor, it wouldn't be used.
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES suggested that they could instead make the
penalty a class A misdemeanor and reduce the required mental
state to criminal negligence.
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE pointed out that that's essentially the
crime of criminally negligent burning, which has proven to be
ineffective. He again reiterated his hope that the bill won't
be used often but will instead act as a deterrent.
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES asked whether a person starting a vehicle
fire that then burns out of control and causes further damage
could be charged with other crimes as well.
LIEUTENANT DIAL said it is possible, though such instances would
have to be addressed on a case-by-case basis. For example, the
types of other crimes that might be charged would depend on
whether someone gets injured as a result of setting the vehicle
on fire.
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES asked whether they need to include an
exemption in the bill for training exercises.
MR. LUCKHAUPT, in response to the earlier question, noted that
it is a misdemeanor to start or know of a fire and allow it to
escape; that in some instances, in addition to a jail sentence
and a fine, civil damages could also be sought from the person
[starting] the fire; and that there is another criminal penalty
that could accrue to someone starting a fire on undeveloped
land, but it wouldn't apply to vehicle fires.
CHAIR RAMRAS, after ascertaining that no one else wished to
testify, closed public testimony on HB 268.
2:15:35 PM
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM moved to report HB 268 out of committee
with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal
notes. There being no objection, HB 268 was reported from the
House Judiciary Standing Committee.
HB 303 - MARINE & MOTORIZED RECREATIONAL PRODUCTS
2:16:42 PM
CHAIR RAMRAS announced that the final order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 303, "An Act relating to marine products and
motorized recreational products; and providing for an effective
date." [Before the committee was CSHB 303(L&C); included in
members' packets was a proposed committee substitute (CS) for HB
303, Version 25-lS1183\M, Bannister, 2/5/08.]
CHAIR RAMRAS noted that the Department of Law (DOL) has provided
a written opinion on CSHB 303(L&C) [that expresses concern with
that version].
2:17:46 PM
REPRESENTATIVE MARK NEUMAN, Alaska State Legislature, sponsor,
relayed that he's not yet had a chance to review that opinion
but would like to do so, and indicated that perhaps a committee
substitute (CS) could be brought before the committee at a later
date that would address the DOL's concerns.
CHAIR RAMRAS relayed that [CSHB 303(L&C)] would be held over.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:19 p.m.
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