Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

01/31/2024 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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*+ HB 276 REDUCE ROYALTY ON COOK INLET OIL & GAS TELECONFERENCED
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*+ HB 223 TAX & ROYALTY FOR CERTAIN GAS TELECONFERENCED
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         HB 276-REDUCE ROYALTY ON COOK INLET OIL & GAS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:04:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  announced that the  first order of business  would be                                                              
HOUSE  BILL  NO. 276,  "An  Act  relating to  temporarily  reduced                                                              
royalty  on oil  and gas  from pools  without previous  commercial                                                              
sales in  the Cook Inlet sedimentary  basin; and providing  for an                                                              
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:05:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BOYLE, Commissioner,  Department of Natural  Resources (DNR),                                                              
presented HB 276  on behalf of the House Rules  Committee, sponsor                                                              
of the  bill by  request of the  governor.   He advised  that from                                                              
DNR's  standpoint  the current  challenges  in Cook  Inlet  aren't                                                              
related  to the  resource  because ample  gas  is available  under                                                              
existing platforms  as well as  platforms that could  be permitted                                                              
within  a short  period  of time.   Rather,  he  continued, it  is                                                              
commercial  challenges  that  are inhibiting  the  development  of                                                              
Cook Inlet  gas resources.   Over  the 60  years of production  in                                                              
Cook Inlet, the  oil element has driven the economics,  with gas a                                                              
byproduct from  those oil exploration  prospects.  Over  time, oil                                                              
has become  more and  more difficult  to find  and challenging  to                                                              
get, which  plays a role in  the economics because even  when lots                                                              
of  gas accompanies  that  oil  there  isn't necessarily  a  ready                                                              
market  for any  gas  supply above  and  beyond Alaska's  domestic                                                              
needs.    According   to  existing  producers,   many  development                                                              
projects are  within the margin  of being investable or  not given                                                              
that other investments  with higher rates of return  and less risk                                                              
are available to investors.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BOYLE pointed out  that royalty  is a lever  DNR can                                                              
pull  to contribute  to the  economics of  these projects,  reduce                                                              
risk, incentivize,  and push  over the line  of internal  rates of                                                              
return that  can be  promised to  investors.  At  the end  of last                                                              
year, he related,  DNR offered net share profit leases,  a type of                                                              
lease that already  existed under DNR's authorities,  instead of a                                                              
royalty  rate.    Under  net  share  profit  leases,  an  operator                                                              
develops the  fields, starts  producing oil,  and then  once costs                                                              
are recouped  the operators start  paying the sovereign  a certain                                                              
amount.   The  thought was  that  they might  give companies  more                                                              
confidence  in  the  economics  of  bidding  for  new  leases  for                                                              
prospective projects  in areas that  haven't been  explored before                                                              
or where  the exploration  needs more work  to delineate  or prove                                                              
up the resource, and a slight uptick was seen.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BOYLE  explained that HB  276 deals with  leases that                                                              
already  exist  but  don't currently  have  production;  the  bill                                                              
specifically  relates  to  existing  leases  where  DNR  hopes  to                                                              
incentivize  new production.   He  further explained  that HB  276                                                              
doesn't deal  with existing  production, so  it doesn't  lower the                                                              
royalty  rate for  those  producers  in the  Cook  Inlet that  are                                                              
already  producing oil.   The bill  only applies  to producers  in                                                              
the  Cook Inlet  that  have  leases  already established  at  12.5                                                              
percent royalty,  and it  would lower  those royalty rates,  which                                                              
would be a great  first step to help provide  better economics for                                                              
Alaska's producers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BOYLE  said new  development  will  likely not  take                                                              
place  without proactive  steps  by the  state.   He related  that                                                              
banks and investors  have expressed concern about  the uncertainty                                                              
of investing in  Alaska, such as the fiscal changes  that impacted                                                              
tax credits  available to  Cook Inlet  producers and proposals  to                                                              
change  the fiscal  take  structure in  Alaska.   Advancement  and                                                              
passage of  HB 276 would  signal to investors  that the  state and                                                              
its  policymakers strongly  support  development  within the  Cook                                                              
Inlet and recognize  that it is in the state's interest  to have a                                                              
stable  homegrown energy  supply  that is  relatively  affordable,                                                              
and that  the state is looking  to enact policies  which encourage                                                              
rather than discourage that type of production.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:14:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  emphasized that  HB 276 is  not a tax  credit program                                                              
like the  State of  Alaska had  in the  past where fungible  funds                                                              
from the  state treasury  were used  to help  finance oil  and gas                                                              
projects.   Rather, he said, HB  276 is a program  which leverages                                                              
gas that is still in the ground that may never be produced.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BOYLE added  that  the program  proposed  by HB  276                                                              
wouldn't be  the state subsidizing  or giving money  to producers,                                                              
nor anything  like  the tax credits  under the  [2010] Cook  Inlet                                                              
Recovery Act  (CIRA).  Under  HB 276, he  continued, instead  of a                                                              
12.5 percent  rate  the state would  collect  a 5 percent  royalty                                                              
rate to  help improve the  economics for moving  projects forward.                                                              
Not  making this  tweak, he  advised,  could result  in the  state                                                              
getting  100  percent   of  nothing  rather  than   5  percent  of                                                              
something.   While  Cook Inlet gas  is important  for heating  and                                                              
powering the homes  of [most of Alaska's  residents], Commissioner                                                              
Boyle further  pointed out that  Cook Inlet oil  supplies Alaska's                                                              
in-state  refineries which  produce gasoline  and aviation  fuels,                                                              
and  HB  276  would  also lower  the  royalty  rate  for  the  oil                                                              
produced in these leases.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:16:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEREK NOTTINGHAM,  Director, Division  of Oil and  Gas, Department                                                              
of  Natural  Resources  (DNR),   on  behalf  of  the  House  Rules                                                              
Committee,  sponsor  of  HB  276   by  request  of  the  governor,                                                              
provided a PowerPoint  presentation titled "HB 276  Reduce Royalty                                                              
on Cook Inlet  Oil & Gas," dated  1/31/2024.  He began  with slide                                                              
2,  "WHY IS  COOK INLET  GAS IMPORTANT?"    The left  side of  the                                                              
slide read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Natural Gas Utilities Enstar serves over 440,000 people and operates in                                                                     
       over 25 communities throughout Southcentral Alaska                                                                       
     • Interior Gas Utility (IGU) serves over 2,400 people                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Electric Utilities Chugach Electric serves over 302,000 people in                                                                      
        Anchorage, Whittier, Girdwood, and Fairbanks                                                                            
      • Matanuska Electric (MEA) serves the Mat-Su Borough                                                                    
        and Chugach and Eagle River, over 180,000 people                                                                        
     • Homer Electric serves nearly 36,000 people                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM addressed  the  pie  chart on  the  right side  of                                                              
slide  2  depicting   the  2023  Cook  Inlet  Utility   Gas  Under                                                              
Contract.   He informed the committee  that Enstar makes  up about                                                              
half  of the  volume of  Cook Inlet  gas that  is under  contract,                                                              
with Chugach Electric  making up [over one-fourth]  of the volume,                                                              
and with  Homer Electric, IGU,  and MEA [nearly  equally splitting                                                              
the remaining volume].                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM moved  to slide  3, "COOK  INLET OVERVIEW,"  which                                                              
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Cook Inlet is a large mature oil and gas basin                                                                           
        • Has produced over 1.4 billion barrels of oil and                                                                      
          12 trillion cubic feet of gas                                                                                         
        • 26 producing fields operated by 8 different                                                                           
          companies                                                                                                             
        • There are over 200 oil and gas leases in Cook                                                                         
          inlet                                                                                                                 
     Gas production has been declining since 1990                                                                             
        • Peak  gas  production  in  1990  was  over  850,000                                                                   
          thousand cubic feet per day                                                                                           
        • Current  production is  just over 200,000  thousand                                                                   
          cubic feet per day                                                                                                    
       Cook Inlet gas provides heat and electricity to 70                                                                     
     [percent] of Alaskans                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  drew attention  to the Cook  Inlet units  shown on                                                              
the map  on the right side  of slide 3.   He said state  units are                                                              
depicted in  yellow, with Kitchen  Lights being the  biggest unit,                                                              
Trading  Bay  a historical  unit  that  began  in the  1960s,  and                                                              
Ninilchik an  onshore unit on state  land.  He noted  that Swanson                                                              
River, [a  federal unit]  depicted in  green, began producing  oil                                                              
and gas in  1958 or 1959.   Mr. Nottingham pointed out  that given                                                              
the maturity of  these existing fields, it is  getting tougher and                                                              
tougher to find additional oil and gas within these fields.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  proceeded to slide  4, "COOK INLET  LEASES," which                                                              
read  as   follows  [original   punctuation  provided   with  some                                                              
formatting changes]:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     What is a State of Alaska Oil and Gas Lease?                                                                             
        • A lease is  a tract of land designated  for oil and                                                                   
          gas exploration                                                                                                       
        • Leases  are  offered  at  lease  sales  or  through                                                                   
          exploration licenses                                                                                                  
        • Primary  lease  terms  are  between  five  and  ten                                                                   
          years                                                                                                                 
        • Commercial  production  extends  the  lease  beyond                                                                   
          the primary term                                                                                                      
     What is an Oil and Gas Unit?                                                                                             
        • Leases  are  combined   to  form  a  unit  for  the                                                                 
          protection of all parties                                                                                             
        • Facilitates  joint  development,  conserve  natural                                                                   
          resources, and avoid waste                                                                                            
        • Unit  agreement is  developed  between the  lessees                                                                   
          and the State                                                                                                         
          • Requires the development of a plan of                                                                               
             development/exploration (POD/POE) along with                                                                       
             other reporting requirements                                                                                       
          • Requires the operator to act as a prudent                                                                           
             operator while developing the unit                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:24:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM spoke  to the geological maps depicted  on slide 5,                                                              
"COOK  INLET  GEOLOGY."   He  qualified  that  he is  a  petroleum                                                              
engineer, not  a geologist,  but noted that  the Alaska  Range and                                                              
volcanoes  comprise the  western side  of the  Cook Inlet  and the                                                              
east  side  is  comprised  of  the  Kenai  Peninsula  and  Chugach                                                              
Mountains.   A  catch basin  formed  between these  two sides,  he                                                              
explained,  where  fluvial systems  came  in and  deposited  sand,                                                              
creating the  stratigraphic column depicted  on the right  side of                                                              
slide 5.   The deeper sands in  the column tend to be  harder rock                                                              
and tend to have  oil and are considered the source  rock for Cook                                                              
Inlet  oil.   Above the  deep harder  rock  is rock  that is  more                                                              
permeable and quite  a bit of the oil production  comes from these                                                              
formations,   the   Chickaloon,   West   Foreland,   and   Hemlock                                                              
formations,  with   oil  coming  particularly  from   the  Hemlock                                                              
Formation.   Then, moving above  these formations are  the Tyonek,                                                              
Beluga, and  Sterling formations from  which gas is  produced, and                                                              
that  gas   is  formed  from   biogenic  gas  related   to  coals.                                                              
Responding to Representative  Saddler, Mr. Nottingham  offered his                                                              
belief  that  "ma"  on  the  top left  of  the  depiction  of  the                                                              
stratigraphic column  stands for millions of years,  therefore the                                                              
bottom of the column represents 208 million years.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:26:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  addressed  slide   6,  "UNDISCOVERED  RESOURCES,"                                                              
which read  as follows  [original punctuation  provided with  some                                                              
formatting changes]:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
       • Undiscovered, Technically Recoverable Oil & Gas                                                                      
        (U.S. Geological Survey 2011):                                                                                        
       • mean conventional oil 599 million barrels of oil                                                                       
        • mean conventional gas 13.7 trillion cubic feet                                                                        
        • mean unconventional gas 5.3 trillion cubic feet                                                                       
     • Undiscovered, Technically Recoverable Gas:                                                                             
        • 1.2 trillion cubic feet additional mean resource                                                                      
          assessed in the federal Southern Cook Inlet Outer                                                                     
          Continental Shelf area (Bureau of Ocean Energy                                                                        
          Management 2011)                                                                                                      
    • Governor's    Legislation    targets   making    these                                                                    
        prospects more economic for development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  defined unconventional  gas  as  gas  that is  in                                                              
plays like coalbed methane.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:28:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM discussed  the  graphic on  slide  7, "COOK  INLET                                                              
PRODUCTION HISTORY."   He noted that  oil peaked in the  1970s and                                                              
has  been declining  since.   Gas peaked  in 1990  at 850  million                                                              
cubic feet and has  been declining from there.  Much  of the water                                                              
production  coming in  is associated  with  secondary or  enhanced                                                              
recovery  methods such  as water  flooding, and  the water  coming                                                              
through the wells and being produced.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:28:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  continued  to slide 8,  "GAS PRODUCTION  HISTORY,"                                                              
and drew attention  to the graph on the left  depicting production                                                              
of Cook Inlet gas  by lessee from state-owned oil  and gas leases.                                                              
He related  that from the early  2000s to about 2010,  many of the                                                              
companies  producing from  state lands were  the bigger  companies                                                              
with  big  capability,  including  ConocoPhillips,  Marathon,  and                                                              
Chevron.   However,  he  continued, in  the  last 15  years or  so                                                              
Hilcorp Alaska  LLC has been  the predominant producer  along with                                                              
some  smaller  producers, so  the  landscape  has shifted  in  the                                                              
companies that  are producing  there and  their capabilities.   He                                                              
turned  his attention  to the  graph  on the  right depicting  the                                                              
Cook Inlet fields  that have been producing.  He  pointed out that                                                              
all the  fields have  been declining  over the  2000s and  that no                                                              
major new field has come online in that time.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:30:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  displayed  slide  9, "COOK  INLET  PRODUCTION  BY                                                              
FIELD:", and noted  that the chart on the left  details production                                                              
of  oil and  gas by  field  and company  for  the year  2023.   He                                                              
reiterated  that Hilcorp  is  the dominant  producer  in the  Cook                                                              
Inlet with over  80 percent of the production.   The Beluga River,                                                              
Ninilchik,  and   North  Cook  Inlet   fields  are  the   big  gas                                                              
producers.   He directed  attention to  the map  on the  right and                                                              
said  oil production  is important  with oil  production today  at                                                              
around 9,000 barrels a day and on decline.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:31:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  reviewed slide  10, "GAS  STORAGE," which  read as                                                              
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     What is gas storage?                                                                                                     
        • Gas can be stored by re-injecting it in                                                                               
          subsurface reservoirs and re-producing when it is                                                                     
          needed, although it comes with costs and                                                                              
          operational demands.                                                                                                  
        • It  is used  within  a year  to  mitigate the  fact                                                                   
          that demand  is much higher in the winter  than the                                                                   
          summer, but  it is best to produce from  fields  at                                                                   
          a  relatively  steady  rate.  Production  over  the                                                                   
          summer  months can  be "saved up"  for cold  winter                                                                   
          days.                                                                                                                 
        • Storage   is  critical,   as  peak  winter   demand                                                                   
          already  requires  more  gas  than  is  deliverable                                                                   
          from producing reservoirs.                                                                                            
        • Gas  storage  can  also  be  used  across  multiple                                                                   
          years.                                                                                                                
     There are currently four active gas storage pools                                                                        
        • CINGSA  [Cook Inlet Natural  Gas Storage Alaska]                                                                      
          Established  in 2011,  gas storge  capacity 18  bcf                                                                   
          [billion  cubic feet], operated  by CINGSA  (an RCA                                                                   
          regulated utility)                                                                                                    
        • Kenai  Gas  Pool  6     Established  in  2006,  gas                                                                   
          storage capacity 50 bcf, operated by Hilcorp                                                                          
        • Pretty  Creek    Established in  2005, gas  storage                                                                   
          capacity 3 bcf, operated by Hilcorp                                                                                   
        • Swanson  River  (Federal)    Established  in  2001,                                                                   
          gas storage capacity 3.4 bcf, operated by Hilcorp                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:33:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS  asked whether other potential  opportunities                                                              
for storage are being explored.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  replied that he  believes other opportunities  are                                                              
being explored  by various producers/operators  in the  Cook Inlet                                                              
as well as the utilities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  inquired about why CINGSA  is regulated by                                                              
the RCA but not Kenai Gas Pool 6 or Pretty Creek.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:34:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CROWTHER,  Deputy Commissioner,  Office of the  Commissioner,                                                              
Department  of Natural  Resources  (DNR),  answered that  existing                                                              
[DNR]  leases  grant  operators  the  right  to  store  their  own                                                              
production  on their  own leases.   Therefore,  those operated  by                                                              
Hilcorp  have the right  to store  Hilcorp production  so  that it                                                              
can be used to  meet those deliverability demands.   For the Kenai                                                              
Gas  Pool  6,  he explained,  [DNR]  has  authorized  third  party                                                              
storage  from a  lessor perspective.    If that  storage is  moved                                                              
forward and brought  into the market, the RCA depending  on how it                                                              
exercises  its authorities,  might  require  regulation for  third                                                              
parties to access [the stored gas].                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:35:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM spoke  to slide 11, "COOK INLET  GAS DEMAND," which                                                              
read  as   follows  [original   punctuation  provided   with  some                                                              
formatting changes]:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Kenai LNG Plant                                                                                                          
       • Nikiski liquified natural gas (LNG) facility is                                                                        
        operated by Trans-Foreland Pipeline Co. LLC  which                                                                      
        is a subsidiary of Marathon Petroleum                                                                                   
     • Last exported LNG was 2015                                                                                               
         • Department of Energy (DOE) authorization for                                                                         
        exporting LNG expired in 2018                                                                                           
        • Dec. 2020 Federal Energy Regulatory Commission                                                                        
        (FERC) approved LNG imports to this facility an                                                                         
        annual capacity up to 1.8 billion cubic feet (bcf)                                                                      
        per year                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Nutrien Fertilizer Plant                                                                                                 
     • Second largest ammonia/urea plant in U.S.                                                                                
      • Shut down and mothballed in 2007, however Nutrien                                                                       
        maintains permits and remains interested in                                                                             
        reopening the plant                                                                                                     
       • Gas prices relative to Lower 48 makes economics                                                                        
        difficult                                                                                                               
     • Potential source for blue hydrogen/blue ammonia                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM elaborated  that in the early 2000s  Cook Inlet gas                                                              
was  used  for  electricity  and  heating  in  the  Anchorage  and                                                              
Railbelt  areas, for  producing  fertilizer, and  for LNG  export.                                                              
The fertilizer plant  was shut down in 2007 and  LNG exports ended                                                              
in 2015, shrinking  the demand for Cook Inlet gas  [from a high of                                                              
nearly  220 bcf]  to roughly  70 bcf  per year  to supply  current                                                              
utility needs  and some  industrial needs such  as a  refinery and                                                              
general oil and gas field operations.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:36:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  related  that  [in  2023]  Hilcorp  informed  the                                                              
utilities  that it  couldn't commit  beyond  meeting its  existing                                                              
contracts with  the utilities.   He said DNR responded  by putting                                                              
together  a forecast  to understand  the gas  supply and  resource                                                              
availability  in the Cook  Inlet.  He  paraphrased from  slide 12,                                                              
"DNR 2022  COOK INLET FORECAST,"  which read as  follows [original                                                              
punctuation provided with some formatting changes]:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Purpose of the 2022 Cook Inlet Gas Forecast:                                                                             
        • Independent  analysis  to  provide  information  on                                                                   
          gas supply issues in the Cook Inlet                                                                                   
        • Also  provides   production  information   for  the                                                                   
          Department of Revenue's revenue forecast                                                                              
     Methodology:                                                                                                             
        • Utilized  public production  data  to assess  Units                                                                   
          producing gas in the Cook Inlet                                                                                       
        • Generally     accepted    petroleum     engineering                                                                   
          practices used to develop projections                                                                                 
        • Standardized  set of economic limits were  used for                                                                   
          each Unit                                                                                                             
     Key Assumptions:                                                                                                         
        • Assumes 15  development wells per year  until 2030,                                                                   
          and no new wells beyond that                                                                                          
        • Assumes  gas   price  is  flat  at  70   BCF,  with                                                                   
          escalation for inflation. Does not forecast                                                                           
          market changes responding to supply/demand                                                                            
        • Does  not include  contribution from  non-producing                                                                   
          known prospects and does not forecast likelihood                                                                      
          of their development                                                                                                  
        • Forecasted   volumes   do  not   account  for   gas                                                                   
          produced from gas storage                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:39:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  spoke  to  the graphic  on  slide  13,  "FORECAST                                                              
PROVED DEVELOPED  & PROVED UNDEVELOPED."  He  explained that [from                                                              
2023 to 2026] the  forecast is for the gas supply  to roughly meet                                                              
the estimated  demand of 70  BCF per year.   Beginning  [in 2027],                                                              
he continued,  the  forecast is  for supply to  start falling  off                                                              
demand even  with continued  drilling.   That continued  drilling,                                                              
he advised,  is a large chunk of  the future supply from  the Cook                                                              
Inlet, so it's an  important piece that needs to  continue for the                                                              
area to continue to meet the demand.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:40:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS stated  it is  market development,  investor                                                              
certainty,  and a  flat  line for  demand  that  are being  talked                                                              
about.   She asked  if there  are other  potential energy  demands                                                              
that could  be a route  for proving a  larger demand  potential if                                                              
it is being signaled that Alaska is a good place to invest.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BOYLE  responded that  there  is an  opportunity  to                                                              
market more  or see a demand  increase assuming the  economics are                                                              
right.  Refineries  and industrial users continue  to need natural                                                              
gas,  he  said.    For  example,  Donlin  Gold  has  explored  the                                                              
viability of building  a pipeline from the Cook Inlet  to its mine                                                              
site,  and several  mineral and  mining prospects  in the  Susitna                                                              
Valley  may  be  interested  in  consuming Cook  Inlet  gas.    In                                                              
theory, if  enough gas were to  be discovered, produced,  and made                                                              
available,  there   might  be  an  opportunity  for   the  Nutrien                                                              
fertilizer plant to resume operation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:43:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  pointed out  that only one  jack-up rig  is currently                                                              
operating in  the Cook Inlet, and  that it has a full  schedule of                                                              
projects.    So,  slide  13 is  important,  he  said,  because  it                                                              
forecasts  the future  if no  changes are  made.   Time is of  the                                                              
essence for  considering this seriously,  he continued.   "Fifteen                                                              
wells  per   year,"  give  or   take,  is  vitally   important  or                                                              
[production]  will  stay below  the  [70  BCF] line.    Geologists                                                              
think  there is  lots of  gas in  the  inlet; it  is essential  to                                                              
figure out  how to add  a second jack-up rig  to get more  than 15                                                              
wells per year.   As can be seen  on slide 13 and which  shows the                                                              
slide's importance,  a gasline from Cook Inlet to  the Donlin Gold                                                              
Mine, for example, cannot be advanced in the current situation.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BOYLE  concurred with  Chair McKay's statements  that                                                              
a shortfall  is seen with the  status quo assumptions,  that it is                                                              
known  where gas  currently is  and where  opportunities are,  and                                                              
that a second  jack-up rig is  an important issue.   Another issue                                                              
related to  the Cook  Inlet industry's decline,  he added,  is the                                                              
resulting erosion  of the ability of contractors  and suppliers to                                                              
provide  the  same   level  of  service  and  support   that  they                                                              
historically provided  in the Cook  Inlet.  Support  services have                                                              
been  redeployed  to  the  North Slope  where  investment  is  now                                                              
flowing.   It isn't  just about  the companies  producing  oil and                                                              
gas, the  associated service companies  that enable  the producers                                                              
to be successful must also be considered.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:47:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  related  his understanding  that  Hilcorp                                                              
and Homer Electric  Association (HEA) have signed  an extension of                                                              
their gas  supply contract, and  that he understands this  is done                                                              
by borrowing  from the future.   He asked  how the chart  on slide                                                              
13 would change  if Hilcorp begins to produce extra  gas sooner to                                                              
supply HEA.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM replied  that Hilcorp  accelerates gas  production                                                              
from  the  future currently.    He  offered  his belief  that  any                                                              
excess above  the 70  BCF would  go into  a storage reservoir  and                                                              
continue to pressure  up that reservoir.  When that  excess gas is                                                              
needed in  the future for supplying  HEA or any utility,  then HEA                                                              
could call upon that gas from storage to supply that need.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:49:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER surmised  that that  would not change  the                                                              
decline seen  in the  graph on slide  13, it is  just where  it is                                                              
stored short term.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER responded  that  the  volumes at  issue  in the  HEA                                                              
contract are  quite small  and don't  materially change  the graph                                                              
from a  visual perspective.   However, he  advised, if  there were                                                              
to be an effort  to pull forward large volumes of  gas there would                                                              
be  constraints  on rig  availability,  service capacity,  and  so                                                              
forth.   While  it was  natural  for developers  and utilities  to                                                              
manage short  term year-to-year  supply issues  in the  near term,                                                              
[DNR]  believes that  longer term  there must  be a solution  like                                                              
this  legislation  which  dramatically  reframes  and  brings  new                                                              
prospects online.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:50:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM resumed  his presentation.  He displayed  slide 14,                                                              
"2022 FORECAST VS  ACTUALS," and said the graph  shows that actual                                                              
[wells drilled]  is tracking with  DNR's forecast  [18 development                                                              
wells  actually  drilled  in  2022 versus  DNR's  forecast  of  15                                                              
development wells].                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  elaborated on  the accuracy  of DNR's  forecast of                                                              
15 development  wells on average  per year by proceeding  to slide                                                              
15,  "2023  DEVELOPMENT  WELL ACTIVITY,"  which  read  as  follows                                                              
[original punctuation provided with some formatting changes]:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Well Activity                                                                                                            
         17 gas development wells have been drilled and                                                                       
     completed during calendar year 2023:                                                                                       
        • North Cook Inlet Unit x3                                                                                              
        • Lewis River Unit x1                                                                                                   
        • North Trading Bay Unit x1                                                                                             
        • Swanson River Unit x3                                                                                                 
        • Beluga River Unit x5                                                                                                  
        • Lewis River Unit x1                                                                                                   
        • Ninilchik Unit x3                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
       • 1 development well is currently being drilled in                                                                     
        Kenai Unit                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
       • 1 development well drilling permit is currently                                                                      
        approved for Beluga River Unit                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Production                                                                                                               
     Major Field Contributors                                                                                                   
     (through November 2023):                                                                                                   
     • Ninilchik  21.8 [percent]                                                                                                
     • North Cook Inlet  18.8 [percent]                                                                                         
     • Beluga River  18.5 [percent]                                                                                             
         • All other gas fields represent less than 10                                                                          
        [percent] each                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
       The above percentages are based on gas volumes for                                                                       
     sale, and discounts gas produced from storage as well                                                                      
     as gas reinjected for EOR purposes                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM spoke to slide 16, "COOK INLET 2023 LEASE SALE                                                                   
RESULTS," which read as follows [original punctuation provided                                                                  
with some formatting changes]:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     New, competitive lease terms offered:                                                                                    
        • Net profit share as the bid variable                                                                                  
        • Fixed per-acre cash bonus                                                                                             
        • No royaltypercentage of net profits owed to the                                                                       
          State after recovering capital investments and                                                                        
          operating costs to bring production online                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Six tracts received bids                                                                                                 
        • Three from Hilcorp Alaska LLC                                                                                         
        • Three from Hex LLC                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
    Net profit share rate bids: 5.6 [percent]            11                                                                   
     [percent]                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Cash bonus revenue: About $600,000                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Acres receiving bids: About 15,000 acres                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  reiterated that DNR  has the statutory  ability to                                                              
offer a net profit-based  bid variable in its lease  sales with no                                                              
royalty.   It was thought this  might attract more  exploration in                                                              
the  Cook Inlet  by  both  new and  existing  operators/producers.                                                              
Under  net  profit share,  the  producer  doesn't  have to  pay  a                                                              
royalty, and  net profit share payments  to the state  don't begin                                                              
until the  project becomes cash  flow positive.   He characterized                                                              
the lease sale  results as encouraging but allowed  that DNR would                                                              
have liked to see more bids.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:53:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  asked whether these  new leases can  be characterized                                                              
as being over existing structures that are believed to have gas.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  answered that the  division doesn't  have specific                                                              
knowledge as  to what the producers  and operators may  be looking                                                              
at  but given  they risked  some  amount of  cash  to acquire  the                                                              
leases indicates that they see something there.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  observed from the map  on the right side  of slide 16                                                              
that the new  leases are a blend  of onshore and offshore  that is                                                              
close to shore.   He surmised these  leases could be drilled  by a                                                              
land  rig  with  extended  reach drilling,  in  which  case  these                                                              
prospects could be drilled without another jack-up [rig].                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  replied that  that would be  true for  the onshore                                                              
prospects.   The leases that were  picked up, he noted,  were near                                                              
infrastructure  and near  existing units,  so ease of  development                                                              
may have been a consideration of the operators that bid on them.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:55:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM reviewed  slide 17,  "EXISTING OIL  & GAS  ROYALTY                                                              
STATUTES."   He  said  AS 38.05.180(f)(3)  applies  to new  leases                                                              
with no production  and prescribes commercial terms  for DNR's oil                                                              
and  gas leases  which  include  a minimum  royalty  rate of  12.5                                                              
percent  and the  option for  sliding-scale royalty  rates or  net                                                              
profit  sharing.   He said  AS 38.05.180(f)(4)-(5)  apply to  both                                                              
new  and existing  leases with  no  production in  Cook Inlet  and                                                              
provide  a 5  percent  royalty rate  on  initial production  under                                                              
limited  circumstances.   Put in  place  [by Senate  Bill 112]  in                                                              
1996,  .180(f)(4), Cook  Inlet Discovery  Royalty,  has been  used                                                              
only once.  Put  in place [by House Bill 380]  in 1998, .180(f)(5)                                                              
grants  5  percent royalty  for  10  years;  at  the time  of  the                                                              
legislation  it  applied  to  six  known  fields,  four  of  which                                                              
qualified and were  successful developments.  Mr.  Nottingham then                                                              
addressed  statutes  relating  to mature  production  on  existing                                                              
leases.  He said  AS 38.05.180(f)(6) reduces royalty  rates on oil                                                              
production  for some  offshore  fields under  limited  conditions.                                                              
[Put in place by  Senate Bill 185 in 2003], he  said this has been                                                              
an  effective  methodology  for  prolonging  oil  production  from                                                              
those  fields.   However,  he  noted,  it  doesn't apply  to  some                                                              
offshore fields  that are producing  now, and which  could benefit                                                              
from this.   Regarding  AS 38.05.180(j),  royalty modification  by                                                              
the DNR commissioner,  he noted that it applies to  more than just                                                              
the Cook  Inlet.  [Expanded  in 1995 by  House Bill 207],  he said                                                              
this statute  allows the  DNR commissioner  to modify  royalty for                                                              
unproduced  pools,  mature  pools,   or  shut-in  pools  that  are                                                              
uneconomic.   This  is a  very high  bar and  lengthy process,  he                                                              
added.    Mr.  Nottingham  advised   that  many  of  the  existing                                                              
statutes  have restrictions  which make for  a cumbersome  process                                                              
that may be a detraction.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:59:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  pointed out that  [the Cook  Inlet] is a  very mature                                                              
basin.  Alaska  is almost like an independent  country, he opined,                                                              
because it  is far  away from the  Lower 48  and other  sources of                                                              
gas, so  charting Alaska's  future is  "in our  hands."   He noted                                                              
that Alaska collects  money from these fields in four  ways:  12.5                                                              
percent royalty  per the state constitution,  production/severance                                                              
tax, corporate income  tax, and property tax.  Royalty  is what is                                                              
being  talked  about  today,  he  continued,  property  taxes  are                                                              
collected by  the local governments,  and corporate income  tax is                                                              
another subject.   He asked whether  no production tax  is paid on                                                              
many of these fields.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER replied  that production tax revenue  from Cook Inlet                                                              
production  is  quite  limited   today  due  to  policy  rationale                                                              
enacted  by  the  legislature  to  promote  development  of  those                                                              
resources.    Property tax  is  an  important component  of  state                                                              
revenue,  he said,  but also  a part  of the  dynamic that  drives                                                              
investment  decisions about  activity  in Cook  Inlet.   Currently                                                              
there is very  active debate and dispute with  different operators                                                              
about  the appropriate  property  tax  implications  and how  they                                                              
affect investments.   Royalty  is directly  within DNR  to manage,                                                              
and the  department  thinks royalty  is a key  economic driver  of                                                              
decisions  in these  fields.   Slide  17  shows the  legislature's                                                              
historical  enactment  of  significant   royalty  modification  in                                                              
different contexts  to promote development to get  energy supplies                                                              
on the market.   The intent of HB 276, Mr.  Crowther continued, is                                                              
to  make  royalty   reductions  broadly  applicable   and  clearly                                                              
applicable  to new  production  instead  of having  volume  driven                                                              
limits, or location  driven limits, or a complicated  process with                                                              
long timelines and uncertainty.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:03:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SADDLER  asked   whether  current  statutes   are                                                              
ineffective or  were effective for  their time, but  circumstances                                                              
have now changed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BOYLE  answered that  he  wouldn't  say the  royalty                                                              
modification statutes  are ineffective, but he would  say they set                                                              
a high hurdle that  requires lots of analysis by  the division and                                                              
lots of  back and  forth with  the applicant,  which isn't  a good                                                              
tool for  certainty or  being able  to do  something quickly.   He                                                              
offered  his belief  that  historically  there haven't  been  many                                                              
instances of the department granting royalty relief.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  offered his  opinion  that  the State  of                                                              
Alaska can use  royalty and tax provisions to  encourage desirable                                                              
outcomes like  providing a  supply of gas  that keeps  people warm                                                              
and dry, so he doesn't consider the provisions as gas giveaways.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:06:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BOYLE  responded to  both  Representative  Saddler's                                                              
and Chair  McKay's comments.   He advised  that the four  kinds of                                                              
state  and/or local  tax  can be  drivers on  the  economics of  a                                                              
project,  particularly during  the  early years  when there  isn't                                                              
yet any  revenue from the  project.  Property  tax begins  as soon                                                              
as any  kind of infrastructure  is put in  the ground and  must be                                                              
paid  by the  company  regardless  of whether  a  profit is  being                                                              
made.   The  royalty  obligation  begins as  soon  as the  project                                                              
starts  production,  yet  costs  haven't been  recovered  at  that                                                              
point.   So,  property  tax and  royalty are  key  drivers in  the                                                              
economics of a project.   After operation starts it  takes time to                                                              
recover the  drilling, equipment, and  pipeline costs and  to earn                                                              
enough return  to repay  lenders and  shareholders.   Commissioner                                                              
Boyle said he  thinks the committee rightfully should  look at all                                                              
the  elements  to understand  where  in  the  cycle they  have  an                                                              
impact on  project economics.   Policies  that provide  benefit in                                                              
the  early  years will  have  more  meaningful impact  in  helping                                                              
companies  decide whether  a project  is a  go or  a no-go  versus                                                              
policies  that are  oriented towards  fields that  are already  in                                                              
production or are more mature.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:09:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS  drew  attention  to the  second  column  on                                                              
slide 17 and asked  what the difference is between  HB 276 and [AS                                                              
38.05.180(f)(4)-(5)], which has not been heavily utilized.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER answered  that  AS 38.05.180(f)(4)  is  where a  new                                                              
field is discovered  and certifications are required  of the well,                                                              
the  production, and  the status  of the  reservoir pre-well,  and                                                              
only the royalty  is reduced for  that one lease that  the well is                                                              
located on.   The department thinks the reason  that authority has                                                              
only been  applied for  and utilized  one time is  in part  due to                                                              
how narrow and  focused it is.   A given unit may involve  five or                                                              
more  leases, so  that royalty  reduction on  the production  from                                                              
only the  discovery lease is a  limitation there.  He  stated that                                                              
AS  38.05.180(f)(5) targeted  reduced  royalty  for six  different                                                              
fields  to get  them online  and was  successful in  that four  of                                                              
those six  fields did  go into production,  providing oil  and gas                                                              
that the  state has benefitted from.   He said HB  276 essentially                                                              
would be  expanding that (f)(5)  provision for all pools  that are                                                              
not currently in  commercial production, so new  resources getting                                                              
into the  market at that highly  competitive 5 percent  rate.  The                                                              
hope is to see  the same success as with those  prior fields which                                                              
came online in the 1990s and early 2000s.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:11:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM paraphrased  from  slide 18,  "HB 276:  WHY IT  IS                                                              
NECESSARY,"   which   read  as   follows   [original   punctuation                                                              
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Why this legislation is necessary                                                                                        
     • Alaskans need access to reliable, affordable energy                                                                      
        • Nearly 70 [percent] of Alaskans use Cook Inlet                                                                        
        natural gas for heating, energy, and electricity                                                                        
        generation                                                                                                              
     • Cook Inlet gas supplies are forecasted to drop below                                                                     
        demand in coming years unless new sources are brough                                                                    
        online                                                                                                                  
       • There are several significant known natural gas                                                                        
        fields in Cook Inlet that are not seeing development                                                                    
        under the status quo                                                                                                    
      • Policies and actions to support future development                                                                      
        need to be taken today                                                                                                  
       • More competitive development terms will increase                                                                       
        total recovery and utilization of Alaska's natural                                                                      
        resources, which otherwise may not be developed or                                                                      
        generate revenue for the State                                                                                          
         • Alaska should use all the local natural gas                                                                          
        resources available as we work on long-term energy                                                                      
        solutions for the Railbelt                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:12:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE inquired about  the performance  clauses in                                                              
the Kitchen Lights and Cosmopolitan leases.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  replied that the  Kitchen Lights  and Cosmopolitan                                                              
units both have  a plan of development requiring  the operators to                                                              
state their plans  for the current and future years.   He said the                                                              
division  works with  the  operators to  help  them identify  what                                                              
they  should be  doing  in  the next  and  following  years.   The                                                              
division  has recently strongly  indicated  to both operators  its                                                              
expectation that these units be developed expediently.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE  asked  whether   the  Kitchen  Lights  and                                                              
Cosmopolitan  units are nearing  the end of  the period  stated in                                                              
their  leases,  usually  five  to   ten  years,  where  they  must                                                              
perform, or the lease will be sent to someone else to perform.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER   responded  that   both  units  are   currently  in                                                              
production and  that production holds  the unit.  He said  DNR has                                                              
authorities  to  review  the  status   and  level  of  development                                                              
activities  for a  unit, as  well as the  scope and  size of  that                                                              
unit,  but  hasn't utilized  those  authorities  to pare  back  or                                                              
modify either  unit.   The department  expects to see  performance                                                              
under  the recently  approved annual  plans  of development  which                                                              
have significant  development obligations for both  operators.  If                                                              
HB 276  or something like  it were to  be enacted,  the department                                                              
would be  able to specifically tell  those operators that  it is a                                                              
highly  competitive environment  and  development activities  must                                                              
be undertaken  in the near  term, or the  state will  move forward                                                              
with potential action under the unit.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE requested a definition of "in production."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER  offered  his  belief that  last  year  the  Kitchen                                                              
Lights Unit  produced near  4 BCF  of gas,  so contributed  to the                                                              
total demand.   But, he added, DNR believes that  additional wells                                                              
and  development  would  push  that  number up  to  see  the  full                                                              
development of that  resource, which is an obligation  of the unit                                                              
agreement.  The  Cosmopolitan Unit currently is  producing oil and                                                              
a small amount  of gas that is  being used in the market,  but DNR                                                              
similarly feels that the full development of that resource with                                                                 
additional wells needs to be done to meet those obligations.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:16:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM returned to his presentation.  He spoke from                                                                     
slide 19, "HB 276: EFFECTS," which read as follows [original                                                                    
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     What the bill does                                                                                                       
     •  Grants a  reduced  royalty of  five  percent for  the                                                                   
        first then years of production from pools in Cook                                                                       
        Inlet that have not previously been produced for                                                                        
        commercial sale                                                                                                         
     •  Includes  know   resources  that   are  not  yet   in                                                                   
        production and resources that could be discovered                                                                       
        through further exploration                                                                                             
     •  Applies to any state  land in Cook Inlet,  whether or                                                                   
        not in existing fields, units, or leases                                                                                
     •  Does not  reduce  royalties  for pools  presently  in                                                                   
        commercial production                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:17:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM spoke to slide 20, "HB 276: QUALIFYING                                                                           
PRODUCTION," which read as follows [original punctuation                                                                        
provided, with some formatting change]:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     AS 38.05.180(f)(f) is amended to read:                                                                                   
     "[The] lessee  of all or part  of an oil or gas  pool in                                                                   
     the  Cook  Inlet  sedimentary  basin  that,  subject  to                                                                   
     determination  by the commissioner,  has not  previously                                                                   
     produced  for commercial  sale oil  or gas  shall pay  a                                                                   
     royalty  of five  percent  on oil  or  gas produced  for                                                                   
     sale from that  pool for 10 years following  the date on                                                                   
     which the production for commercial sale commences;"                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     What "has  not previously  produced for commercial  sale                                                                 
     oil or gas" means:                                                                                                       
     •  Production from  wells  or sidetracks  drilled  after                                                                   
        the effective date of this legislation that would                                                                       
      not have otherwise been produced from existing wells                                                                      
     •  "[S]ubject  to  determination  by  the  commissioner"                                                                   
        means DNR considers if the source of oil and gas has                                                                    
        produced in the past, proximity to existing wells,                                                                      
        drainage area  of existing wells,  and timeframe  for                                                                   
        recovery from existing wells                                                                                            
     • Examples of qualifying production:                                                                                       
          • A newly-drilled well or sidetrack from the edge                                                                     
             of   an    existing   or    previously-producing                                                                   
             development                                                                                                        
          • A new well or sidetrack from an unproduced                                                                          
             accumulation of oil and gas                                                                                        
      • The lessee or lessees shall jointly or separately                                                                       
        apply for reduction in royalty for  one or more wells                                                                   
        with each application                                                                                                   
      • Data and interpretations will be supplied with the                                                                      
        application, and  DNR may  request  further data  and                                                                   
        interpretations                                                                                                         
     • A well or accumulation may be determined to receive                                                                      
        reduced  royalties before  a  well  is  drilled  when                                                                   
        supported by data and interpretations                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:20:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM addressed slide 21, HB 276: SECTIONAL SUMMARY,"                                                                  
which read as follows [original punctuation provided with some                                                                  
formatting changes]:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
      • Section 1: Amends AS 38.05.180(f)(5). The original                                                                    
        statute granted a  five-percent royalty rate  for oil                                                                   
        or gas for  the first  ten years  but was limited  to                                                                   
        six Cook  Inlet  fields  discovered before  1988  and                                                                   
        provided a deadline of January 1, 2004,  for start of                                                                   
        production (in AS 38.05.180(dd)).                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        This amendment  modifies the program  to include  new                                                                   
        production in  Cook  Inlet, regardless  of  discovery                                                                   
        date, and removes limits  or eligible volumes  of oil                                                                   
        or  gas  during   the  ten-year  period   of  reduced                                                                   
        royalty. Eligibility is  subject to determination  by                                                                   
        the   Department    of   Natural   Resources    (DNR)                                                                   
        commissioner, rather than being automatic.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • Section 2: Repeals the following statutes:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        AS 31.05.030(i):                                                                                                      
        This section relates to the powers  and duties of the                                                                   
        Alaska Oil  and Gas  Conservation Commission  (AOGCC)                                                                   
        and  the   paragraph  outlines   the  procedure   for                                                                   
        approving plans  of development  by  the AOGCC.  This                                                                   
        statute   is  no   longer   necessary   because   the                                                                   
        Department of  Natural Resources,  not the AOGCC,  is                                                                   
        the agency  that administers  and  approves plans  of                                                                   
        development.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        AS 38.05.180(dd):                                                                                                     
        This section  relates to  the State  of Alaska's  oil                                                                   
        and gas  and  gas only  leasing  policies.  Paragraph                                                                   
        (dd) established a  deadline for start  of production                                                                   
        under the  unamended  AS  38.05.080(f)(5) and  is  no                                                                   
        longer appropriate.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     • Section 3: The legislation takes effect immediately                                                                    
        under AS 01.10.070(c).                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:22:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCKAY drew  attention to  slide 10  regarding gas  storage.                                                              
He requested verification  on whether Kenai Gas Pool  6 could have                                                              
500 BCF or more of gas storage capability.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER replied  that he will get back to  the committee with                                                              
DNR's understanding  of the  general size of  that asset  as there                                                              
are some limits  to what size storage  asset can be utilized.   He                                                              
said two  things drive the  size of a storage  asset   1)  the raw                                                              
geologic capacity,  with the prior volume produced  from the field                                                              
being a guide  there; and 2)  the Alaska Oil and  Gas Conservation                                                              
Commission (AOGCC)  sets a pressure  limit based on  the reservoir                                                              
and regulations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:23:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  whether there  is a  reason why  HB
276  limits the  royalty relief  to 10  years.   He further  asked                                                              
whether  offering that  incentive  for a  longer  period would  be                                                              
more effective.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  responded  that [DNR]  set a 10-year  period  in the                                                              
proposed legislation  because historically  these provisions  have                                                              
had  a  10-year period  for  the  legislature  and the  public  to                                                              
assess  the effectiveness  of the  program.   A longer period,  he                                                              
continued, would  be a strong  signal that  DNR would be  happy to                                                              
discuss with the committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked whether a longer period  would cause                                                              
confusion.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER answered  that clear statutory language  for whatever                                                              
period is  set can  be assessed  by accountants and  professionals                                                              
and won't create confusion.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:24:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BAKER observed the  zero fiscal  note for  HB 276.                                                              
He  asked whether  there  are any  projections  on  how the  state                                                              
would benefit revenue-wise moving forward.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER  answered   that  the  department   will  share  its                                                              
hypothetical  models with  the  committee.   He  pointed out  that                                                              
these resources  aren't being  developed under  the status  quo of                                                              
12.5  percent  royalty,   so  the  state  is   receiving  nothing.                                                              
Receiving 5 percent  of new production that otherwise  wouldn't be                                                              
on the market could therefore be a significant revenue benefit.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:25:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS  noted that this  proposal is for  the entire                                                              
Cook Inlet  Basin.  She  asked whether  it would be  in perpetuity                                                              
or would have a limit of the time for when this can initiate.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BOYLE  replied that currently  the intent is  for the                                                              
incentives  to continue indefinitely  given  the reliance  on Cook                                                              
Inlet  energy for providing  heat  and electricity  to homes.   As                                                              
well,  he noted,  oil  and gas  development  enable  the State  of                                                              
Alaska  to  monetize  its  resources   which  in  turn  grows  the                                                              
permanent fund and provides revenues for state services.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY pointed  out that more activity in  Cook Inlet creates                                                              
local jobs and local revenue, which is liked by constituents.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:27:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:27 p.m. to 2:29 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:29:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced that HB 276 was held over.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 276 Transmittal Letter 01.16.2024.pdf HRES 1/31/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 276
HB 276 Sectional Analysis version A 01.22.2024.pdf HRES 1/31/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 276
HB 276 Fiscal Note DNR.pdf HRES 1/31/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 276
HB 223 Sponsor Statement.pdf HRES 1/31/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 223
HB 223 Sectional Analysis.pdf HRES 1/31/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 223
HB 276 - DNR Briefing Paper.pdf HRES 1/31/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 276
HB 276 - DNR Presentation 1.30.24.pdf HRES 1/31/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 276
HB 223 Fiscal Note DNR.pdf HRES 1/31/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 223
HB 223 Fiscal Note DOR.pdf HRES 1/31/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 223