Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

04/02/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:56:01 PM Start
01:56:14 PM HB268 || HB270
01:56:31 PM Amendments
05:00:13 PM Adjourn
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Heard & Held
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Heard & Held
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HOUSE BILL NO. 268                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making capital  appropriations; making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations; making  reappropriations;                                                                    
     making  appropriations  under   art.  IX,  sec.  17(c),                                                                    
     Constitution  of   the  State   of  Alaska,   from  the                                                                    
     constitutional budget  reserve fund; and  providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 270                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:56:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^AMENDMENTS                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:56:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson relayed that the committee left off on                                                                         
Amendment 70 and would return to amendments that had                                                                            
previously been rolled.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz MOVED to ADOPT Amendment N 22 (copy on                                                                     
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Agency: Commerce, Community & Econ Dev                                                                                     
     Appropriation: Alaska Seafood Marketing Inst                                                                               
     Allocation: Alaska Seafood Marketing Inst                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title: Support Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute                                                                          
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type: IncOTI                                                                                                               
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel: 0.0                                                                                                                
     Services: 10,000.0                                                                                                         
     Commodities: 0.0                                                                                                           
     Capital Outlay: 0.0                                                                                                        
     Grants: 0.0                                                                                                                
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
     Total 10,000.0                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Permanent Part-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Temporary: 0                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Funding (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                         
     1004 Gen Fund 10,000.0                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  relayed   that  the  amendment  would                                                                    
address one of  the primary pillars of  the state's economy.                                                                    
Currently,  the  seafood  industry employed  48,000  people,                                                                    
brought  in  $1.8  billion in  labor  income,  and  employed                                                                    
17,000 Alaskans  from more  than 140  communities with  a $6                                                                    
billion total  impact to Alaskans  annually. He  stated that                                                                    
unlike previous  years, there was currently  no operating or                                                                    
capital  general   fund  support  for  the   Alaska  Seafood                                                                    
Marketing  Institute  (ASMI).  The amendment  supported  the                                                                    
overall industry and called for  $10 million in undesignated                                                                    
general funds (UGF) to support  marketing of Alaskan seafood                                                                    
products.  He  cited  a  recent  study  indicating  that  54                                                                    
percent of  consumers were eating  more seafood  compared to                                                                    
two years ago and that  seeing the Alaska seafood label made                                                                    
82  percent of  consumers  more likely  to purchase  Alaskan                                                                    
seafood. He  stated it  was a concrete  example of  seeing a                                                                    
return on investment in ASMI.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  elaborated that  ASMI had  worked hard                                                                    
over  the   years  to  build   the  Alaskan   seafood  brand                                                                    
nationally  and  internationally.  However,  with  a  recent                                                                    
closure  of the  loophole  that allowed  Russian seafood  to                                                                    
come to America via China,  there was a stockpile of Russian                                                                    
seafood on  the shelves, but  there was a  great opportunity                                                                    
to fill  future demand. He highlighted  that other countries                                                                    
with seafood  industries such  as Norway  and Chile  saw the                                                                    
opportunity and  had increased their  marketing in  the U.S.                                                                    
He supported  providing resources  to ASMI  to enable  it to                                                                    
compete against increasing foreign  competition for the U.S.                                                                    
market.  He had  been told  by  the ASMI  director that  the                                                                    
agency  would be  looking to  develop its  U.S. market  more                                                                    
fully during a  time of foreign competition.  He stated that                                                                    
the  amendment was  in support  of the  state's economy.  He                                                                    
elaborated that ASMI  had a good turn on  investment and had                                                                    
done a good  job building the Alaska brand.  He believed the                                                                    
amendment  had  great merit.  He  relayed  that the  fishing                                                                    
industry was the  largest private employer in  the state and                                                                    
actions  by  Russia  had  created a  tough  past  year.  The                                                                    
amendment was in  support of the industry  and fishermen and                                                                    
would  give  fishermen  more  opportunity  to  market  their                                                                    
catch. He asked for members' support.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:01:06 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:02:03 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski stated that  the amendment was on                                                                    
a services  line for ASMI.  He had received a  brochure from                                                                    
ASMI recently and was amazed  to learn there was 2.7 billion                                                                    
pounds of  Alaska pollock harvested  in 2022. He  thought it                                                                    
was  a very  large number.  He  asked for  the total  export                                                                    
value in billions for the state.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  replied  that  he did  not  have  the                                                                    
information.   He   imagined   it    was   in   a   document                                                                    
Representative Tomaszewski had before him.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski answered it was $3 billion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp opposed  the amendment.  He considered                                                                    
what $10 million would do  for ASMI's efficacy. The agency's                                                                    
current  budget was  around  $22 million  per  year and  the                                                                    
amendment  would result  in  a 50  percent  increase in  the                                                                    
agency's available  money. He stated  that according  to the                                                                    
Office  of  Management and  Budget  (OMB)  website, most  of                                                                    
ASMI's  marketing initiative  had increased  visibility when                                                                    
the state spent more money  on outreach; however, it did not                                                                    
appear to  have increased sales of  Alaska seafood products.                                                                    
He did  not believe  ASMI had ever  given a  presentation to                                                                    
the  House   Finance  Committee  during  his   time  on  the                                                                    
committee. He  thought it  would be great  to hear  from the                                                                    
agency to have  the conversations in depth. He  spoke to his                                                                    
reason  for  opposing  the  amendment.  He  believed  Alaska                                                                    
seafood  sales were  decreasing because  Russia had  flooded                                                                    
the  market  with cheap  seafood.  He  hoped action  by  the                                                                    
federal government  would reverse the market  trends. He was                                                                    
not currently sold on the value of the $10 million.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:05:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe asked to  hear from Mr. Painter. She                                                                    
thought  there was  funding  in the  budget.  She asked  for                                                                    
details on any FY 24 and FY 25 funding [for ASMI].                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:06:01 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:07:02 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI  PAINTER,  DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
replied that  in FY 25  there was ~$16 million  in statutory                                                                    
designated program receipt (SDPR)  authority from a fee paid                                                                    
by seafood  harvesters. In  FY 24,  there was  an additional                                                                    
one-time increment of $5 million in UGF support.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  about  the  variability in  the                                                                    
SDPR. He asked if the amount  depended on a tax on the price                                                                    
per pound of seafood caught.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  believed it was  an assessment on  value. There                                                                    
was carry forward  revenue that could be used  to smooth the                                                                    
volatility somewhat.  As of  the beginning  of FY  24, there                                                                    
was about  $10 million in  carry forward that could  be used                                                                    
to  smooth the  volatility. He  explained that  [ASMI] could                                                                    
only spend the  SDPR up to its authority (not  more than $16                                                                    
million). He noted if there  was a downturn in receipts, the                                                                    
agency  could potentially  draw  on its  carry forward,  but                                                                    
temporarily it was a longer downturn.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp stated his  understanding there was $10                                                                    
million cash on hand, but  [ASMI] was blocked from using the                                                                    
funds because  its receipt authority  did not allow  the use                                                                    
of  the money  unless ASMI  went  below its  $16 million  in                                                                    
authority  where it  could use  its cash  balance to  smooth                                                                    
volatility.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  responded affirmatively.  The agency  could use                                                                    
the funding  to fill a gap  if its receipts fell  short, but                                                                    
it could not overspend its authority.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:09:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked how  often the  legislature had                                                                    
given ASMI general fund subsidies and support.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter replied  that he  did  not have  the number  of                                                                    
times  on  hand.  The  agency  had  received  some  flexible                                                                    
federal COVID-19  funds and some  UGF. He relayed  that ASMI                                                                    
had a  more stable  UGF subsidy  prior to  budget reductions                                                                    
about  eight  years  back.  He  believed  funding  had  been                                                                    
provided at least  two or three times in the  past few years                                                                    
when  counting the  federal  flexible  funding provided  one                                                                    
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  asked for  verification that  the vast                                                                    
majority  of  the funding  received  by  ASMI was  from  the                                                                    
industry through its own self-assessment.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon spoke in support  of the amendment. He would                                                                    
advocate for  a similar amendment throughout  the process if                                                                    
the vote came up short.  He represented a commercial fishing                                                                    
district including white  fish such as pollock  and red fish                                                                    
such as salmon  and a number of other species  that were the                                                                    
backbone of  the coastal  economy. He  pointed out  that the                                                                    
$10  million  would  keep  the  Alaska  brand  alive  on  an                                                                    
international  stage. He  believed the  last ASMI  tradeshow                                                                    
was in Barcelona.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan relayed  that  the  tradeshow was  in                                                                    
southern Spain.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  highlighted  that  as  the  sole  umbrella                                                                    
marketer for Alaskan seafood, ASMI's  display spot was small                                                                    
in  comparison to  other  countries who  invested  a lot  of                                                                    
money [into the  event] such as Norway and  Chile and farmed                                                                    
salmon  producers. For  every  dollar  going into  marketing                                                                    
Alaska  salmon was  a dollar  that went  into marketing  the                                                                    
transportation  sector  including  maritime,  aviation,  and                                                                    
trucking. He elaborated that  the supply chain beneficiaries                                                                    
of  the seafood  industry  were beyond  the mere  multiplier                                                                    
effect of other  industries. He thought it  was a reasonable                                                                    
investment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:12:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin asked about  tax revenue from fishing.                                                                    
She asked what it had been and if it had been consistent.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  did  not recall  the  recent  revenue  numbers                                                                    
offhand. The  [Department of  Revenue] Revenue  Sources Book                                                                    
included  an  assumption  with   a  three-year  recovery  in                                                                    
seafood tax revenue, but it  had dipped substantially in the                                                                    
past couple of years.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon stated  that some  of the  tax revenue  was                                                                    
shared back  with communities. He  was not sure  the Revenue                                                                    
Sources Book touched on that,  but a significant amount went                                                                    
to  Kodiak, Unalaska,  Sand Point,  Dillingham, Naknek,  the                                                                    
Bristol  Bay Borough,  Petersburg,  and  all throughout  the                                                                    
coast.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin remarked  that  the  state had  found                                                                    
ways to  help boost incoming  revenue from tourism,  oil and                                                                    
gas,  and mining.  She referenced  the  current crisis  with                                                                    
Russia [flooding the  market] and the movement  of the fish,                                                                    
which  meant there  had to  be significant  adjustments. She                                                                    
thought of the many corporations  such as Peter Pan that had                                                                    
adjusted what they were doing.  She stated that if wild fish                                                                    
was preferred four  to one, getting marketing  out there may                                                                    
help  Alaska get  more  of  the tax  revenue.  She was  very                                                                    
supportive  of the  amendment. She  believed  the return  on                                                                    
investment was  there and  she thought  the state  needed to                                                                    
help its fishing communities.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:15:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan spoke  in support  of the  amendment.                                                                    
She stated  that virtually all  fishermen were paying  a tax                                                                    
that was shared  with communities. In addition  to being the                                                                    
largest private  sector employer in the  state, the industry                                                                    
had  a  reach  through  the state's  economy  and  a  ripple                                                                    
effect. The  bulk of ASMI's  budget had always been  a self-                                                                    
assessment  tax   on  the  price  of   delivered  fish.  She                                                                    
explained that the price would  go down because of the price                                                                    
collapse,  some   related  to  international   reasons.  She                                                                    
believed Representative  Cronk asked  in a past  hearing why                                                                    
the money  had gone  down if  there was  a high  volume. She                                                                    
stated  it was  due  to  the price  value  at delivery.  She                                                                    
remarked  that  some could  argue  that  ASMI had  been  the                                                                    
biggest  marketer  of Alaska  for  the  last 40  years.  She                                                                    
elaborated  that  long  before  the state  was  helping  its                                                                    
tourism industry, ASMI  was marketing the fish  and state as                                                                    
a  whole. She  mentioned  ASMI's advertising  of the  Alaska                                                                    
label during Alaska reality shows.  She stated it helped the                                                                    
economy in  a variety of  ways. She  stated that due  to the                                                                    
price collapses,  ASMI would be  hard pressed over  the next                                                                    
three  years dealing  with inventory.  She underscored  that                                                                    
the  communities that  would suffer  would be  the smallest.                                                                    
She  expounded that  the most  remote plants  would be  shut                                                                    
down and fewer places would  get fish delivery. She believed                                                                    
that  to  keep marketing  going  in  order  for all  of  the                                                                    
state's communities  to be in  the fish business,  the state                                                                    
should be supporting ASMI. She  believed it was an important                                                                    
investment and  noted that ASMI  did not always  request UGF                                                                    
funding because it was not always needed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:18:43 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:22:30 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz provided wrap up  on Amendment N 22. He                                                                    
believed the investment was effective.  He remarked that the                                                                    
industry was  the primary supporter  of ASMI.  He elaborated                                                                    
that  due  to  world   events,  particularly  with  Russia's                                                                    
flooding of the markets with pink  salmon to fund its war in                                                                    
Ukraine, fish  prices had plummeted. He  emphasized that the                                                                    
fishing  industry was  the largest  private employer  in the                                                                    
state. He  thought that  when people  questioned subsidizing                                                                    
the industry  it seemed the legislature  would be supportive                                                                    
of Alaska's largest private employer  in the interest of the                                                                    
state's economic wellbeing. He  stated that ASMI was looking                                                                    
to  develop  its  local American  market  in  a  potentially                                                                    
competitive market. He  concluded that a vote  in support of                                                                    
the  amendment  was  a  vote   in  support  of  the  state's                                                                    
fishermen, processors,  and the  industry overall.  He urged                                                                    
members' support.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Hannan, Josephson, Ortiz, Galvin, Edgmon                                                                              
OPPOSED:  Tomaszewski,   Stapp,  Coulombe,   Cronk,  Foster,                                                                    
Johnson                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 22 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:25:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment N 24 (copy on                                                                    
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Agency: Commerce, Community & Econ Dev                                                                                     
     Appropriation: Tourism Marketing                                                                                           
     Allocation: Tourism Marketing                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title: Increase Tourism Marketing Grant to Alaska                                                                          
     Travel Industry Association (ATIA)                                                                                         
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type: IncOTI                                                                                                               
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel: 0.0                                                                                                                
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities: 0.0                                                                                                           
     Capital Outlay: 0.0                                                                                                        
     Grants: 7,500.0                                                                                                            
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
     Total 7,500.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Permanent Part-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Temporary: 0                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Funding (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                         
     1004 Gen Fund 7,500.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  that the amendment would  provide $7.5                                                                    
million to  the Alaska  Travel Industry  Association (ATIA).                                                                    
He relayed  that historically the state  had been supportive                                                                    
of funding for the tourism  pillar of its economy. Currently                                                                    
ATIA  had a  $2.5 million  grant in  the capital  budget. He                                                                    
stated  that the  amendment  would  complement the  existing                                                                    
funding  to grant  the agency  the full  $10 million  it had                                                                    
been advocating  for. In reality,  ATIA needed at  least $15                                                                    
million to  stay competitive  in the  world market  with the                                                                    
top 10 global destinations.  In 2022, tourism generated $5.6                                                                    
billion  in  economic  output,  including  $3.9  billion  in                                                                    
direct  spending, and  $157 million  in  state revenues.  He                                                                    
added that it had been a  year the industry was in recovery.                                                                    
The industry  impacted every corner of  the state, supported                                                                    
many  small  businesses,   and  provided  countless  private                                                                    
industry jobs. He stated that  supporting ATIA made economic                                                                    
sense  when   considering  the   return  on   investment  it                                                                    
provided.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:27:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  supported   the  amendment.   He                                                                    
highlighted  that in  the  past there  had  been a  separate                                                                    
tourism   division  within   the  Department   of  Commerce,                                                                    
Community  and Economic  Development. Additionally,  when he                                                                    
was a legislative staffer "decades  ago" there was a special                                                                    
committee on tourism.  He recalled that the  high water mark                                                                    
in state  investment was around  $19 million.  The increment                                                                    
was  not terribly  higher than  the governor's  proposal. He                                                                    
believed the funding should be higher.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin   supported   the   amendment.   She                                                                    
reiterated that  in the  past and in  the future,  the state                                                                    
made investments  where there would be  a multiplier effect.                                                                    
She  expounded that  all of  the  smaller communities  would                                                                    
gain when oil  and gas, fisheries, tourism,  and mining were                                                                    
doing  well.  She highlighted  that  the  current number  of                                                                    
tourists coming  to Alaska was  about 1.3  million annually.                                                                    
The number  could continue to grow  if important advertising                                                                    
continued. She  stated that  independent travelers  who kept                                                                    
Alaska on their  list needed a little  reminder. She pointed                                                                    
out that a broad range of  areas would all benefit from more                                                                    
travelers.   She  shared   that   she  had   seen  an   ATIA                                                                    
presentation at  the Anchorage Chamber  of Commerce  and the                                                                    
numbers  were  indisputable. She  believed  it  was a  great                                                                    
investment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:31:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski declared  a conflict of interest.                                                                    
He shared that he manufactured  products that may or may not                                                                    
benefit from state subsidized marketing.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson objected.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  supported  the   amendment  for  the  same                                                                    
reasons  he supported  the prior  amendment.  He viewed  the                                                                    
agencies as  sister entities from  a budget  perspective. He                                                                    
stated that the benefits  of the year-round tourism industry                                                                    
in  Alaska were  indisputable. He  remarked that  there were                                                                    
quantifiable and unquantifiable  benefits from the industry.                                                                    
He  communicated he  would continue  supporting the  funding                                                                    
elsewhere in  the budget process  if the vote came  up short                                                                    
on the amendment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked to be recused  from voting. She                                                                    
shared  that she  had an  Airbnb  and may  benefit from  the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp objected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  provided wrap up on  the amendment. He                                                                    
stated that  the amendment process was  a tradeoff situation                                                                    
because there  was not sufficient  money to  put everywhere.                                                                    
He confirmed  that adopting the amendment  meant there would                                                                    
be $7.5  million less  to spend  elsewhere. He  believed the                                                                    
investment was wise and would  bring one of the best returns                                                                    
on investment  to the state.  He remarked that it  was clear                                                                    
the benefits outweighed the opportunity  costs. He asked for                                                                    
members' support.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Hannan, Ortiz, Josephson, Galvin, Edgmon                                                                              
OPPOSED:  Coulombe,   Cronk,  Stapp,   Tomaszewski,  Foster,                                                                    
Johnson                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 24 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:35:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson requested to move Amendment N 23.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  N  23                                                                    
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Agency: Commerce, Community & Econ Dev                                                                                     
     Appropriation: Tourism Marketing                                                                                           
     Allocation: Tourism Marketing                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title: Tourism Marketing Grant to Alaska Travel                                                                            
     Industry Association (ATIA)                                                                                                
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type: IncOTI                                                                                                               
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel: 0.0                                                                                                                
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities: 0.0                                                                                                           
     Capital Outlay: 0.0                                                                                                        
     Grants: 2,500.0                                                                                                            
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
     2,500.0                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Permanent Part-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Temporary: 0                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Funding (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                         
     1004 Gen Fund 2,500.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation                                                                                                                
     Last  year, the  Senate amended  into the  first Senate                                                                    
     Committee substitute  of HB 39 (2023)  an appropriation                                                                    
     request titled  "Tourism Marketing Grant to  the Alaska                                                                    
     Travel Industry                                                                                                            
     Association  (ATIA)." An  additional  amount was  added                                                                    
     during  the  Senate  Finance budget  process,  and  the                                                                    
     total  amount equaled  $5  million. This  appropriation                                                                    
     was passed out of both  bodies and sent to the Governor                                                                    
     where  he  vetoed  half  the amount.  FY  25  does  not                                                                    
     include  a   new  IncOTI  for  this   allocation.  This                                                                    
     amendment adds the amount vetoed last year.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  explained the amendment.  He noted                                                                    
that the governor had reduced  a $5 million appropriation to                                                                    
$2.5  million  in  his  vetoes. He  stated  there  was  some                                                                    
evidence the  governor would tolerate  a $2.5  million state                                                                    
investment.  He  asked for  members'  support.  He added  it                                                                    
would be  nice to be  able to  tell John Binkley  and others                                                                    
that the state still had skin in the game.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski declared a conflict of interest.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin declared a conflict of interest.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  stated there  was  an  objection and  the                                                                    
members would be required to vote.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp called the question.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Josephson, Ortiz, Hannan, Galvin, Edgmon                                                                              
OPPOSED: Stapp, Tomaszewski, Cronk, Coulombe, Foster,                                                                           
Johnson                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 23 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:38:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz MOVED to ADOPT Amendment N 26 (copy on                                                                     
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Agency: Commerce, Community & Econ Dev                                                                                     
     Appropriation: Community and Regional Affairs                                                                              
     Allocation: Community & Regional Affairs                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title: Grant to Inter-Island Ferry Authority for                                                                           
     Operations                                                                                                                 
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type: Inc                                                                                                                  
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel: 0.0                                                                                                                
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities: 0.0                                                                                                           
     Capital Outlay: 0.0                                                                                                        
     Grants: 250.0                                                                                                              
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
     Total 250.0                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Permanent Part-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Temporary: 0                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Funding (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                         
     1004 Gen Fund 250.0                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  explained the amendment  would provide                                                                    
$250,000 for  the Inter-Island Ferry Authority.  He detailed                                                                    
that it  was a  privately run ferry  system with  some state                                                                    
support. The  ferry served  Prince of  Wales Island  and ran                                                                    
regularly from  Ketchikan. He detailed  there were  at least                                                                    
six or seven  small communities located on  Prince of Wales.                                                                    
He  stated  that the  ferry  was  a self-pay,  pay-as-you-go                                                                    
service.  The  amendment  was  in   line  with  prior  state                                                                    
funding.  He stated  that the  amendment  of $250,000  would                                                                    
enable the  ferry to  continue providing  service in  a cost                                                                    
efficient way.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:40:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Ortiz, Josephson, Galvin, Hannan                                                                                      
OPPOSED:  Stapp,   Coulombe,  Cronk,   Tomaszewski,  Foster,                                                                    
Edgmon, Johnson                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 26 FAILED (4/7).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:41:07 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:43:40 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment N 30 (copy on                                                                    
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Agency: Education & Early Dev                                                                                              
     Appropriation: Education Support and Admin                                                                                 
     Allocation: Alyeska Reading Academy                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title: Remove ARAI Salary Adjustment                                                                                       
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type: Dec                                                                                                                  
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: -31.6                                                                                                   
     Travel: 0.0                                                                                                                
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities: 0.0                                                                                                           
     Capital Outlay: 0.0                                                                                                        
     Grants: 0.0                                                                                                                
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
     Total -31.6                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Permanent Part-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Temporary: 0                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Funding (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                         
     1004 Gen Fund -31.6                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Agency: Education & Early Dev                                                                                              
     Appropriation: Education Support and Admin                                                                                 
     Allocation: Alyeska Reading Academy                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title: Delete Funding for Alyeska Reading Academy and                                                                      
     Institute                                                                                                                  
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type: Dec                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: -1,140.5                                                                                                
     Travel: -44.6                                                                                                              
     Services: -708.0                                                                                                           
     Commodities: -1,115.0                                                                                                      
     Capital Outlay: 0.0                                                                                                        
     Grants: -1,991.9                                                                                                           
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
     Total -5,000.0                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time: -7                                                                                                    
     Permanent Part-Time: -2                                                                                                    
     Temporary: -3                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Funding (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                         
     1004 Gen Fund -5,000.0                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  explained  the amendment  that  would                                                                    
decrease the  budget by $5  million for the  Alyeska Reading                                                                    
Academy.  He  explained  that  that  the  funding  had  been                                                                    
removed   by  the   Department   of   Education  and   Early                                                                    
Development  (DEED) finance  subcommittee and  reinserted in                                                                    
the  current   [HB  268]   committee  substitute   (CS).  He                                                                    
considered  whether the  $5  million was  a  good return  on                                                                    
investment and  stated that  evidently the  subcommittee did                                                                    
not think  so. He relayed  that the Alyeska  Reading Academy                                                                    
used $5  million to lease a  space and make $1.4  million in                                                                    
renovations. The  academy hired  four positions  including a                                                                    
teacher  for $100,800  and had  purchased student  materials                                                                    
that could be accomplished by  DEED. He remarked the academy                                                                    
had managed to  provide some support in  Chevak; however, he                                                                    
believed  the legislature  should  expect more  from the  $5                                                                    
million. The academy  was not mentioned in  the Alaska Reads                                                                    
Act. He elaborated that there  was no study recommending the                                                                    
academy and no  business plan for what it  would produce. He                                                                    
remarked that there  was not a lot  of accountability there.                                                                    
He  reasoned that  $5 million  was a  significant amount  of                                                                    
money  that could  be saved  or  used for  other things.  He                                                                    
considered items that would help  Alaska's kids read and was                                                                    
uncertain an  academy in Anchorage  would push  the envelope                                                                    
significantly  in  the  goal  of  helping  kids  read  on  a                                                                    
statewide basis.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:46:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  recalled thinking the request  had been for                                                                    
the  Alaska  Reads  Act the  previous  year.  He  remembered                                                                    
asking  the  acting  commissioner  [of  DEED]  at  the  time                                                                    
several questions  and had discovered  the increment  was $5                                                                    
million to pay for a  facility in Anchorage that appeared to                                                                    
be largely  unused. He did  not know  what the plan  was. He                                                                    
stated that the Alaska  Reads Act had prescriptive statutory                                                                    
                                                           rd                                                                   
language  requiring  students between  kindergarten  and  3                                                                     
grade   to  do   screenings,   reading  improvement   plans,                                                                    
interactive     consultations     with    accredited     and                                                                    
paraprofessional reading specialists.  The act also required                                                                    
a number of  visits with parents and  principals in addition                                                                    
to a  substantial amount  of work  in-house. He  guessed the                                                                    
Alyeska  Reading Academy  was set  up for  more than  online                                                                    
activities, which is what it  had done the previous year. He                                                                    
listed  zoom  calls   and  online  professional  development                                                                    
reaching out  to Kalskag and  other communities.  He thought                                                                    
there should  be an audit  of the  academy. He did  not know                                                                    
how  it  took  the  Reads  Act and  brought  it  into  small                                                                    
schools. He  stressed the necessity  of having  teachers and                                                                    
reading   specialists   in   classrooms.  He   stated   that                                                                    
overworked K-3 teachers needed  additional help because they                                                                    
were  teaching  all day  and  were  also tasked  with  doing                                                                    
reading improvement plans and  the other requirements of the                                                                    
Reads Act.  He did  not know  where the  academy fit  in. He                                                                    
asked if it was a  recognition that the state would continue                                                                    
to have  high turnover in  its teaching ranks  and therefore                                                                    
it was  necessary to have  a place  in Anchorage for  all of                                                                    
the teachers  who came and  went to be  constantly certified                                                                    
through the Reads Act program. He  felt it had been a fairly                                                                    
disingenuous  presentation  to  the committee  the  previous                                                                    
year.  He  emphasized the  committee  had  not been  led  to                                                                    
believe it  was a brick  and mortar facility. He  still felt                                                                    
duped.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:48:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin concurred  with  remarks by  Co-Chair                                                                    
Edgmon about  the prescriptive guidelines of  the Reads Act.                                                                    
She had  been examining what  the state was doing  to ensure                                                                    
its  schools  could  follow through  with  "what  is  there,                                                                    
already as it is." She  stated it was difficult for families                                                                    
to  reach  out   three  times  a  year   for  children  with                                                                    
difficulty reading,  especially given  the class  sizes. She                                                                    
stated it  was asking  a lot of  teachers to  follow through                                                                    
with requirements. She understood  that teachers may benefit                                                                    
from learning  the science  of teaching  reading. Currently,                                                                    
it  was not  possible to  meet the  goals of  the Reads  Act                                                                    
because  it was  not adequately  funded. She  noted the  $30                                                                    
additional   per    student   through   the    formula   was                                                                    
insufficient. She  stated that in terms  of teaching reading                                                                    
skills,  the system  was woefully  inadequate. She  stressed                                                                    
that class  sizes should be  reduced in some cases  by half.                                                                    
There  were  kindergarten  classes  with  28  students.  She                                                                    
stated  that the  amendment triggered  her  because she  was                                                                    
concerned about the overall issue  that enough was not being                                                                    
done  to meet  the  overall goal  of  the governor's  Alaska                                                                    
Reads Act. She supported  the amendment because she believed                                                                    
there were many  other basic ways the money  should be spent                                                                    
to support public K-12 education.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:51:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp did  not know how he would  vote on the                                                                    
amendment.  He remarked  that the  amendment pertained  to 7                                                                    
permanent  positions, 2  permanent part-time  positions, and                                                                    
three temporary  positions. He  considered that  perhaps the                                                                    
$100,000  for the  teacher salary  included benefits,  which                                                                    
would be more  in line. He was not certain  what the Alyeska                                                                    
Reading Academy was, but DEED  described it as being located                                                                    
in  Anchorage and  providing tutoring  and support  services                                                                    
for  children  who  were struggling  in  reading  to  become                                                                    
fluent in  reading skills, expand  vocabulary, and  more. He                                                                    
noted there were many interesting  things on the website and                                                                    
fliers for  tutoring and applications  for kids to  learn to                                                                    
read in Anchorage.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:52:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  supported the amendment.  Her concern                                                                    
resided with  where the  academy had  come from  and mission                                                                    
creep. She stated that DEED  had not been a direct deliverer                                                                    
of services  for decades.  She elaborated  that most  of the                                                                    
people  who  worked at  the  department  were not  certified                                                                    
teachers     there  were  a few  and  the  commissioner  was                                                                    
required to be  a certified teacher   and DEED  was there to                                                                    
assist school  districts. She stated  that in  the aftermath                                                                    
of the  passage of the  Reads Act,  DEED stood up  seven new                                                                    
permanent  positions,  part  time positions,  and  temporary                                                                    
positions and  decided it would provide  tutoring. She asked                                                                    
whether the 53 school districts  across the state should now                                                                    
send their tutoring  needs to the academy  in Anchorage. She                                                                    
stated  there had  been  significant  discussion around  the                                                                    
Reads Act  about reading  specialists providing  training to                                                                    
teachers  in order  to disperse  them across  the 53  school                                                                    
districts  and into  the right  places. She  emphasized that                                                                    
individual tutoring  of children did not  fall within DEED's                                                                    
mission. She  noted that the Mount  Edgecumbe state-operated                                                                    
boarding  school   had  been  DEED's  only   direct  service                                                                    
delivery of  education to  students for  decades. Otherwise,                                                                    
the  department was  there working  to  support teachers  in                                                                    
order to  have a multiplier  effect. She stated that  if the                                                                    
academy was a teacher  training institute to develop reading                                                                    
specialists for Alaska, it would  be different than tutoring                                                                    
children  in one  school district  that  may or  may not  be                                                                    
identified  as the  most  in need.  She  remarked that  many                                                                    
people hired tutors  for their children to  help them excel,                                                                    
not  because they  had deficits.  She did  not believe  DEED                                                                    
should expand  in mission creep  into the  school districts'                                                                    
jurisdiction was a  step that should not be  taken without a                                                                    
longer term plan.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:55:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  referenced  a recent  article  by                                                                    
Iris Samuels  that was a  devastating expose on  the school.                                                                    
He stated  that the article  was balanced, but  the evidence                                                                    
was not  helpful to  the cause of  the academy.  The article                                                                    
noted  that  $1.4 million  was  spent  on refurbishing  what                                                                    
looked  like  a  mall  located behind  the  Village  Inn  (a                                                                    
restaurant near  the university). He  believed a lot  of the                                                                    
districts thought  people were coming to  the districts, but                                                                    
the  article noted  it was  rare. He  elaborated that  there                                                                    
were  a   number  of  teaching  sessions   for  hundreds  of                                                                    
teachers, but  he did not know  that it was the  best way to                                                                    
get the  desired results. He  highlighted that the  point of                                                                    
the  Alaska Reads  Act was  to have  a team  of people  that                                                                    
would go to  rural districts to offer  direct assistance. He                                                                    
supported the amendment.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe stated it  had been her subcommittee                                                                    
that took  the funding away and  gave it to Head  Start. She                                                                    
did  not know  how  she  would vote  on  the amendment.  She                                                                    
elaborated   that   many   of  the   issues   discussed   in                                                                    
subcommittee had been expressed  during the current meeting.                                                                    
She stated there had been  an understanding that the reading                                                                    
specialists  would be  flying out  into  the community.  She                                                                    
continued that  there had been  a surprise that  the academy                                                                    
was actually adapting  the building for children  to come in                                                                    
for tutoring,  which was  a great thing.  She stated  it was                                                                    
benefiting   the  Anchorage   School  District   (ASD).  She                                                                    
remarked  that  unfortunately the  Reads  Act  did not  just                                                                    
apply to  the ASD, which  was her concern. She  stated there                                                                    
was  substantial  need  in  rural   areas  and  it  required                                                                    
teachers to  fly into Anchorage  to get the  training rather                                                                    
than flying  out. She expounded  that during  a subcommittee                                                                    
meeting someone  from DEED stated  the intention was  to fly                                                                    
reading specialists out,  but it was not  really happening a                                                                    
lot  currently.  She  remarked  that  there  had  been  some                                                                    
misunderstandings  about  the  goal   of  the  academy.  The                                                                    
academy  had a  lease, had  hired people,  and was  actively                                                                    
tutoring. She  noted it was  a good  point that she  did not                                                                    
hear  the  mention  in  the Reads  Act  the  previous  year;                                                                    
however, the  academy had made commitments.  She stated that                                                                    
a part  of her wanted  to give  the academy another  year to                                                                    
see if it was fulfilling its functions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:59:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  looked at  the DEED  website and                                                                    
relayed  that the  Alyeska Reading  Academy within  DEED was                                                                    
designed  to  support  districts and  provide  services  for                                                                    
successful  implementation  of  the  Alaska  Reads  Act.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that professional  development  was grounded  in                                                                    
the science  of reading  and helping those  implementing the                                                                    
program across  the state.  He stated  that the  academy had                                                                    
the  expertise  to  collaborate  with  staff  on  Reads  Act                                                                    
components  and  implementation.  He  remarked  that  Alaska                                                                    
ranked  49   in  reading in  math  and  he believed  it  was                                                                    
failing its students in reading.  He noted the institute was                                                                    
trying  to  help  kids  read.  He  understood  it  had  been                                                                    
implemented the previous  year and he had  not seen results,                                                                    
but he  thought it was a  real effort to help  kids read. He                                                                    
viewed the  funding as another  allocation to  education. He                                                                    
stated that a  lot of people talked about how  there had not                                                                    
been  a Base  Student Allocation  (BSA) increase  in a  long                                                                    
time,  but  there  was  a  lot of  funding  that  went  into                                                                    
education  outside  the  BSA. He  thought  the  academy  was                                                                    
aiming to help school districts  implement the Reads Act. He                                                                    
believed it  was a  valiant thing to  try to  accomplish. He                                                                    
opposed the amendment.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:01:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk stated  it was  a tough  amendment. He                                                                    
shared that in his first  year as a kindergarten/first grade                                                                    
teacher  he did  not  know how  to teach  kids  how to  read                                                                    
because he had  not been taught how to do  so in college. He                                                                    
stated that  college students were  still not taught  how to                                                                    
teach kids to  read unless they were  specifically a reading                                                                    
instructor.  He was  leaning towards opposing the amendment.                                                                    
He did  not know if the  academy had been given  enough time                                                                    
to run to  know whether it was successful. He  stated that a                                                                    
lot  of kids  were not  prepared to  read when  they reached                                                                    
school  and he  wanted to  give  the academy  the chance  to                                                                    
work.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:03:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  provided  wrap  up.  He  thought  the                                                                    
comments made  were reasonable, but  he reminded  members to                                                                    
look at  the model. He  noted a committee  member's comments                                                                    
that if  the academy would  be there to support  the state's                                                                    
54 school districts  it would be a good thing.  He asked how                                                                    
it would  be possible for  the small  number of staff    the                                                                    
organization  was  not  fully  staffed after  a  year     to                                                                    
increase the ability for kids  to read on a statewide basis.                                                                    
He emphasized  that it  would not happen.  He stated  it was                                                                    
the wrong  model. He  noted it would  help some  students in                                                                    
Anchorage. He  referenced a report  showing the  academy was                                                                    
serving 147 students.  He underscored it was  a small number                                                                    
compared  to   the  number  of  students   needing  services                                                                    
statewide. He  pointed out that the  House Finance Committee                                                                    
was supposed  to look at  return on investment.  He believed                                                                    
it was  a bad model  that would  not work. He  stressed that                                                                    
people  were  needed in  communities  for  the long-term  to                                                                    
build  trust and  understand  the areas.  He  stated it  was                                                                    
needed  for  real  reform  in   education.  He  thought  the                                                                    
proposed reduction to  the budget made good  sense. He asked                                                                    
for members' support.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Hannan, Galvin, Josephson, Ortiz, Edgmon, Foster                                                                      
OPPOSED: Tomaszewski, Cronk, Stapp, Coulombe, Johnson                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (6/5). There being  NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
Amendment N 30 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:08:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson remarked  that Amendments  N 39  and N  40                                                                    
were next. She asked  Representative Ortiz if the amendments                                                                    
were hefty.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz replied  that they  should not  take a                                                                    
lot of  time; however, he would  need a brief at  ease prior                                                                    
to presenting them.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson relayed  that the  committee would  take a                                                                    
break for about an hour.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:09:25 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:36:52 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment N 39. [Due to                                                                    
the length of the amendment,  it has not been included here.                                                                    
See copy on file for details.]                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  explained  the amendment  that  would                                                                    
provide  for an  increase for  the cost  of services  due to                                                                    
inflation (a  10 percent increase  of FY 25)  for Department                                                                    
of Fish and  Game (DFG) stock assessment.  He had previously                                                                    
served as the  chair of the DFG finance  subcommittee and in                                                                    
order   to  provide   maximum  opportunity   for  commercial                                                                    
fishermen  there   needed  to   be  thorough   and  adequate                                                                    
assessment   of  stocks.   He  explained   that  assessments                                                                    
included  using airplanes  to fly  over schools  of fish  or                                                                    
dealing with weirs in rivers  to determine escapement levels                                                                    
and the number of fish,  which enabled DFG to make decisions                                                                    
for fishermen.  He explained that  if DFG could  not monitor                                                                    
the  weirs, it  had to  manage more  conservatively and  not                                                                    
allow  potential   opportunities  that  may  exist   if  the                                                                    
assessments  were done.  He  elaborated  that inflation  and                                                                    
increased   fuel  costs   and  other   things  resulted   in                                                                    
circumstances  where  DFG did  not  have  the resources  for                                                                    
management. The amendment amounted  to $43,500. He explained                                                                    
that under the CS, the  Chelatna weir located in the central                                                                    
district had been added back at  a cost of $130,000 to allow                                                                    
DFG  to do  a more  accurate  count. He  asked for  members'                                                                    
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  supported the amendment.  She pointed                                                                    
out  that the  funds  appeared in  the commercial  fisheries                                                                    
budget.   She  explained   that  the   commercial  fisheries                                                                    
assessment did all of the  assessment and stock analysis for                                                                    
all fisheries.  She detailed that when  commercial fisheries                                                                    
did not  have the money  to do assessments, no  fishing took                                                                    
place.  The in-season  management determined  the number  of                                                                    
days dip netting was open on  the Kenai or Copper River. She                                                                    
stated it  was important  to ensure  the department  had the                                                                    
resources to keep  as many fisheries open  and that required                                                                    
as much surveying and analysis in season as possible.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:41:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk stated that  the key word pertaining to                                                                    
the amendment  was "additional."  He had  the budget  in his                                                                    
subcommittee  and DFG  had requested  inflation proofing  in                                                                    
its budget for  every division. He stated that  the money in                                                                    
the amendment was  not needed, and DFG had  plenty of money.                                                                    
He stated relayed  that the money in  the amendment exceeded                                                                    
the  department's request  and  it was  not  needed for  the                                                                    
department to do what was needed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  provided wrap up. He  highlighted that                                                                    
the CS  added the Chelatna  weir at  a cost of  $130,000. He                                                                    
did  not  recall  whether  it  had been  taken  out  by  the                                                                    
department and did  not know whether DFG asked for  it to be                                                                    
added back.  He stated  that what  the department  asked for                                                                    
publicly  and what  it needed  was  sometimes different.  He                                                                    
shared  that people  within commercial  fisheries under  DFG                                                                    
had  told  him  that  the  division had  been  hit  hard  by                                                                    
inflation  and costs  had  increased.  Additionally, he  had                                                                    
been  told that  there were  assessments that  had not  been                                                                    
done because the money was  not available. The amendment was                                                                    
in  support  of   the  overall  industry  and   all  of  the                                                                    
districts; it  gave DFG the  resources needed to  manage the                                                                    
state's  fisheries  to  the  maximum  sustainable  yield  as                                                                    
directed under the state's  constitution. The amendment cost                                                                    
$43,500 for the benefit of  fishermen. He asked for members'                                                                    
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Hannan, Galvin, Josephson, Oritz                                                                                      
OPPOSED:  Tomaszewski,   Coulombe,  Cronk,   Stapp,  Foster,                                                                    
Edgmon, Johnson                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 39 FAILED (4/7).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:45:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment N 40. [Due to                                                                    
the length of the amendment,  it has not been included here.                                                                    
See copy on file for details.]                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  explained the  amendment was  the same                                                                    
as  Amendment N  39,  but  the increment  was  reduced to  5                                                                    
percent  at  a  cost  of  $21,800.  He  asked  for  members'                                                                    
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Galvin, Josephson, Ortiz, Hannan                                                                                      
OPPOSED:  Tomaszewski,   Stapp,  Coulombe,   Cronk,  Edgmon,                                                                    
Foster, Johnson                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment N 40 FAILED (4/7).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:46:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  WITHDREW Amendment  N 41  (copy on                                                                    
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:47:09 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:49:58 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment N 54 (copy on                                                                    
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Agency: Health                                                                                                             
     Appropriation: Senior and Disabilities Svcs                                                                                
     Allocation: Senior Community Based Grants                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Transaction Details                                                                                                        
     Title: Increase Funding for Adult Day Services                                                                             
     Section: Section 1                                                                                                         
     Type: IncOTI                                                                                                               
     Line Items (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                      
     Personal Services: 0.0                                                                                                     
     Travel: 0.0                                                                                                                
     Services: 0.0                                                                                                              
     Commodities: 0.0                                                                                                           
     Capital Outlay: 0.0                                                                                                        
     Grants: 2,000.0                                                                                                            
     Miscellaneous: 0.0                                                                                                         
     Total 2,000.0                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     Permanent Full-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Permanent Part-Time: 0                                                                                                     
     Temporary: 0                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Funding (Amounts are in thousands)                                                                                         
     1004 Gen Fund 2,000.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz explained the  amendment that would add                                                                    
$2 million  for Alaska adult daycare  operations. He relayed                                                                    
that Alaska's ten adult daycare  grantees were struggling to                                                                    
provide   services  due   to  inflation,   increased  needs,                                                                    
challenging behaviors,  and workforce turnover.  In addition                                                                    
to the  need for  meaningful financial support  for existing                                                                    
grantees,  many Alaskans  were underserved  or had  no adult                                                                    
day  or  respite  services available.  The  development  and                                                                    
expansion of the services was  needed across urban and rural                                                                    
Alaska as  the state's  population aged. Support  was needed                                                                    
to  provide  caregivers  with  financial  stabilization.  He                                                                    
stated that the funding would  enable grantees to serve more                                                                    
Alaskans, especially  those not  qualified for  Medicaid. He                                                                    
explained  that the  service  provided  respite service  for                                                                    
adults with impairments.  Qualifying adults received support                                                                    
in  group-based facilities.  He characterized  the situation                                                                    
as a question of priorities.  He elaborated that the state's                                                                    
population was  aging and there  were real needs  to provide                                                                    
services   to   elders   and   other   adults   experiencing                                                                    
challenges. He asked members to support the amendment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin supported  the amendment.  The number                                                                    
of Alaskans  above the age of  75 was growing by  5 percent.                                                                    
She shared that  she had used adult day  services for family                                                                    
members and emphasized  that even an hour of  bingo gave the                                                                    
family  important breaks.  She  elaborated  that it  allowed                                                                    
families the ability  to take care of their  elders and kept                                                                    
individuals out of institutions.  She stressed that the cost                                                                    
of institutional care was extremely  high for the state. She                                                                    
added that  the services provided individuals  with dignity.                                                                    
She was  very supportive  of the  amendment. She  added that                                                                    
given the increased age of  Alaskans and increased cost, the                                                                    
amendment was a reasonable investment.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:54:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  supported   the  amendment.   He                                                                    
remarked that  there had  been a  relatively narrow  vote of                                                                    
5/6 on  an inflation adjustment  of $998,000 for  AGEnet and                                                                    
AARP. He noted that adult  day services provided some of the                                                                    
same needs.  He cited his notes  from a meeting on  March 11                                                                    
where the Alzheimer's  Association and related organizations                                                                    
spoke in support of the  $2 million for day providers. There                                                                    
were currently facilities in  Fairbanks, Nome, and Ketchikan                                                                    
and the money  would be housed with  senior and disabilities                                                                    
grants.  The  organizations   reported  that  the  Fairbanks                                                                    
Resource   Agency  was   short  staffed,   facing  budgeting                                                                    
challenges,  and  needing   money  for  adults  experiencing                                                                    
impairments and family  caregivers. The Ketchikan Rendezvous                                                                    
Senior  Center was  struggling to  attract and  retain staff                                                                    
due to low wages. The  Nome XYZ Senior Center sought funding                                                                    
to  provide   dementia  training,  ensure   nutritious  meal                                                                    
programs, and provide respite for  more families. There were                                                                    
a total of 10 grantees. In  a follow up meeting on March 14,                                                                    
the group reported  that a 13 percent  senior and disability                                                                    
services increment went away. The  top five reasons were the                                                                    
impact  of inflation,  increased  need, changing  workforce,                                                                    
operations being limited to care  for families, and the need                                                                    
for more respite hours.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz   provided  wrap  up.   He  referenced                                                                    
individuals   suffering   from  Alzheimer's   disease.   The                                                                    
individuals who  qualify for adult services  included people                                                                    
of  any  age  with   Alzheimer's  or  any  dementia  related                                                                    
diagnosis,  people  over  the   age  of  60  who  experience                                                                    
functional  impairments,  adults over  the  age  of 18  with                                                                    
similar  disabilities and  service needs  to older  Alaskans                                                                    
who  were at  risk of  institutionalization. He  shared that                                                                    
his parents had been impacted  by Alzheimer's and it had not                                                                    
been  an easy  situation. He  stressed that  any support  to                                                                    
help  with the  particular issue  should be  a priority.  He                                                                    
asked for members' support.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Hannan, Ortiz, Josephson, Cronk, Galvin, Foster                                                                       
OPPOSED: Coulombe, Stapp, Tomaszewski, Edgmon, Johnson                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (6/5). There being  NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
Amendment N 54 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:59:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  WITHDREW Amendment  N 55  (copy on                                                                    
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson stated that the  committee had caught up on                                                                    
the amendments  that had been  rolled. She relayed  that the                                                                    
committee would  continue to  address budget  amendments the                                                                    
following morning.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB  268  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  270  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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