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02/22/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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03:03:27 PM Adjourn
01:42:34 PM Start
01:44:31 PM Overview: Department of Revenue Fy 25 Budget
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 268 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP; AM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 270 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: Department of Revenue FY25 Budget by TELECONFERENCED
Commissioner Adam Crum; and Eric DeMoulin,
Administrative Services Director
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 268                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making capital  appropriations; making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations; making  reappropriations;                                                                    
     making  appropriations  under   art.  IX,  sec.  17(c),                                                                    
     Constitution  of   the  State   of  Alaska,   from  the                                                                    
     constitutional budget  reserve fund; and  providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 270                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FY 25 BUDGET                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson discussed the meeting agenda.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:44:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIC  DEMOULIN,  ADMIN   SERVICES  DIRECTOR,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
REVENUE, introduced the  PowerPoint presentation "Department                                                                    
of Revenue FY2025 Governor's  Amended Budget Overview" dated                                                                    
February 22, 204 (copy on file).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADAM CRUM, COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, ANCHORAGE                                                                       
(via teleconference), began the presentation on slide 2                                                                         
titled "Agenda:"                                                                                                                
     • Department overview and introduction                                                                                     
     • FY2025 Department budget priorities                                                                                      
     • Year-over-year budget comparison                                                                                         
     • Division budget overview                                                                                                 
     • Corporations and Authorities budget overview                                                                             
     • Position history                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Crum  reviewed   slide  3  titled  "Department                                                                    
Overview: Mission and Introduction                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Mission: To Collect, Distribute, and Invest funds for                                                                      
     public purposes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Values                                                                                                                     
     • Integrity                                                                                                                
     • Stewardship                                                                                                              
     • Professionalism                                                                                                          
     • Empowerment                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Agency Divisions                                                                                                           
     • Tax Division                                                                                                             
     • Treasury Division                                                                                                        
     • Permanent Fund Dividend Division                                                                                         
     • Child Support Enforcement Division                                                                                       
    • Commissioner's Office and Administrative Services                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Corporations & Authorities                                                                                                 
     • Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority                                                                                     
     • Alaska Housing Finance Corp                                                                                              
     • Alaska Permanent Fund Corp                                                                                               
     • Alaska Muni Bond Bank Authority                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Statewide Items                                                                                                            
     • Permanent Fund                                                                                                           
     • Shared Taxes                                                                                                             
     • Retirement and Debt Service                                                                                              
     • Dividend Raffle                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Crum  reviewed   slide  4  titled  "Department                                                                    
Overview:  Organization." He  pointed to  the organizational                                                                    
make-up of  the department that contained  5 divisions under                                                                    
the Commissioner's Office:  Tax Division, Treasury Division,                                                                    
Permanent Fund Dividend  Division, Child Support Enforcement                                                                    
Division,  and Administrative  Services Division.  He listed                                                                    
the Authorities  and Corporations  that also held  a trustee                                                                    
or  board seat  for the  Commissioner. Alaska  Mental Health                                                                    
Trust Authority (AMHTA),  Alaska Housing Finance Corporation                                                                    
(AHFC), Alaska  Permanent Fund  Corporation (APFC),  and the                                                                    
Alaska Municipal Bond Bank Authority (AMBBA).                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin  continued  on   slide  5  titled  "Department                                                                    
Overview: Statewide  UGF Comparison." He indicated  that the                                                                    
graph depicted where the Department  of Revenue (DOR) placed                                                                    
in Undesignated  General Fund (UGF) spend  compared to other                                                                    
departments.  He  advanced  to slide  6  titled  "Department                                                                    
Overview: Total Budget by Fund Group                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget totals $464,870.1                                                                     
     in all funds and includes 835 PFT positions                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          • The increase from Adjusted Base totals $9,571.8                                                                     
          in all funds • $2,328.8 UGF • -$13.4 DGF •                                                                            
          $6,696.4 Other • $560.0 Fed                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin reported  that the bar graph  provided a visual                                                                    
representation  of  how  DOR's  funding  was  comprised.  He                                                                    
pointed to  Other Funds  and noted it  was the  largest fund                                                                    
group.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon was temporarily passed the gavel.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:47:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan asked about  the dramatic drop between                                                                    
the FY 24 Management Plan  and the FY 25 Governor's Adjusted                                                                    
Base in the Other Category.  She asked for more information.                                                                    
Mr.  DeMoulin  responded that  it  was  due to  a  technical                                                                    
change item that caused the  discrepancy. He relayed that it                                                                    
was  due to  a  decrease and  multi-year  reversal for  AHFC                                                                    
COVID and federal dollars.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  noted that it  was the first year  that DOR                                                                    
stopped managing the Power Cost  Equalization Fund (PCE). He                                                                    
thought that  some positions  were eliminated.  Mr. DeMoulin                                                                    
replied  that  not  managing  PCE  did  not  have  a  direct                                                                    
correlation  to DOR's  appropriated budget.  The change  did                                                                    
not   warrant  a   decrease  in   staff  or   resources.  He                                                                    
highlighted  slide  7  titled "Department  Overview:  Budget                                                                    
Priorities                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Child Support  Enforcement Class  Study Implementation:                                                                    
     The Child Support  Enforcement Division has effectively                                                                    
     been  managing vacancy  rates of  over 20  percent over                                                                    
     the last two  years. The completion of  our class study                                                                    
     was  paramount   in  making  these  job   classes  more                                                                    
     attractive  to potential  employees  and  we've seen  a                                                                    
     significant increase  in applications through  the last                                                                    
     recruitment cycle.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Permanent Fund  Dividend Division:  Over the  last five                                                                    
     years, the  division has seen operational  increases as                                                                    
     with most  other agencies.  The USPS  increased postage                                                                    
     rates,  our  service  agreements and  chargebacks  from                                                                    
     other   agencies  have   increased  and   we're  seeing                                                                    
     increases for external support contracts.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin  believed  that  the  reclassifications  would                                                                    
decrease  the vacancy  rate  in the  division  within a  few                                                                    
months.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Galvin    understood    that    the    job                                                                    
classifications moved  up two rankings  and wondered  how it                                                                    
translated via  percentages. Mr.  DeMoulin recalled  that it                                                                    
was more than a 5 percent  increase and closer to 15 percent                                                                    
to 20  percent. He  would follow up  with the  exact number.                                                                    
Representative Galvin remarked that  the increase made sense                                                                    
to her considering the duties involved in the job.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:51:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin  continued  to   discuss  the  Permanent  Fund                                                                    
Dividend Division increases.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon requested  that the  director speak  to the                                                                    
increases.  He thought  that  most  Permanent Fund  Dividend                                                                    
(PFD) deposits were electronic.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:52:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENEVIEVE  WOJTUSIK,   DIRECTOR,  PERMANENT   FUND  DIVIDEND                                                                    
DIVISION, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE, responded that  80 percent                                                                    
of  Alaskans  filed for  the  dividend  online. However,  20                                                                    
percent  did  not,  and  the division  still  engaged  in  a                                                                    
significant amount of mail  correspondence. In addition, the                                                                    
division sent over 50 thousand  paper warrants each year and                                                                    
sent over 200  thousand 1099s per year. She  deduced that at                                                                    
.66 cents  per piece  of mail the  costs added  up. Co-Chair                                                                    
Edgmon  asked  for  the  ratio  of  mail  versus  electronic                                                                    
deposit. Ms. Wojtusik answered that  over 500 thousand opted                                                                    
for direct  deposit versus 40  thousand to 55  thousand that                                                                    
requested  a paper  check each  year. Co-Chair  Edgmon asked                                                                    
for the percentage ratio. Ms.  Wojtusik reiterated that over                                                                    
80 percent file  electronically, but some opted  for a paper                                                                    
check versus direct deposit.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp asked  why not all 1099s  could be sent                                                                    
electronically. Ms.  Wojtusik responded that Alaskans  had a                                                                    
choice  between  electronic  or mail.  Representative  Stapp                                                                    
asked how  the process  worked and if  there was  a default.                                                                    
Ms.  Wojtusik responded  that  a person  had  the choice  by                                                                    
checking a box  and if not checked the  division reached out                                                                    
via email  or phone call.  Representative Stapp asked  if it                                                                    
was  possible  to  default applicants  into  the  electronic                                                                    
system. Ms.  Wojtusik responded "yes and  no." She indicated                                                                    
that an email address was not required on the application.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:55:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  presumed that 20 percent  amounted to                                                                    
50 thousand  warrants mailed. Ms.  Wojtusik answered  in the                                                                    
affirmative.  Representative Hannan  appreciated the  desire                                                                    
for efficiencies but  was grateful for the  mail options for                                                                    
those in the unbanked  population. Ms. Wojtusik offered that                                                                    
the division  did incentivize online and  direct deposit use                                                                    
by  issuing the  warrant  electronically  two weeks  earlier                                                                    
than via mail.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:57:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin turned to slide  8 titled "Department Overview:                                                                    
Tax Division                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Mission: Collect taxes, inform stakeholders and                                                                            
     regulate charitable gaming.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget $19,193.3: $18,035.2                                                                      
     UGF, $951.3 DGF, $206.8 Other (94 PFT, 2 NP)                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     FY      2025       Governor's      Amended      Budget:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          Tax Revenue Management System (TRMS) Anticipated                                                                      
          Contract Cost Increases +1,037.7 1004 General                                                                         
          Fund  (UGF)  Continues   maintenance  and  support                                                                    
          contract.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          Property and Production Tax Site Inspections and                                                                      
          Training +102.5 1004  General Fund (UGF) Increases                                                                    
          opportunities for staff to  visit property tax and                                                                    
          oil and gas production tax sites to perform                                                                           
          accurate and timely assessments.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          Economic  Modeling Tools  +96.5 1004  General Fund                                                                    
          (UGF) Provides  the Economic Research  Group (ERG)                                                                    
          with  additional  fiscal   and  economic  modeling                                                                    
          tools.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          Total + $1,236.7 million                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin addressed slide 9 titled "Department Overview:                                                                     
Treasury Division                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Mission: to  manage the  state's funds  consistent with                                                                    
     prudent   investment    guidelines   and   Governmental                                                                    
     Accounting Standards Board (GASB) rules                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget                                                                                           
     $11,937.5:  $2,264.8 UGF,  $347.2  DGF, $9,325.5  Other                                                                    
     (41 PFT)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   No Major Changes in FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin highlighted slide 10 titled          Department                                                                    
Overview: Alaska Retirement Management Board                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Mission: to  manage the state's retirement  and benefit                                                                    
     plan   funds   consistent   with   prudent   investment                                                                    
     guidelines and Governmental  Accounting Standards Board                                                                    
     (GASB) rules.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget:                                                                                          
     $10,808.3: $10,808.3 Other                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Maintain Investment Data Services                                                                                          
     +150.0  +69.0  1017 Ben  Sys  (Other)  +51.6 1029  PERS                                                                    
     (Other) +28.2  1034 TRS (Other)  +1.0 1042  JRS (Other)                                                                    
     +0.2 1045 Nat Guard (Other)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Maintains  financial data  services such  as Bloomberg,                                                                    
     Moodys Analytics, TradeWeb, and Fitch Solutions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Add Previously  Unbudgeted Costs  for FY2023  Exempt 5%                                                                    
     COLA for Treasury Division                                                                                                 
     +235.9  +111.0 1017  Ben Sys  (Other)  +78.3 1029  PERS                                                                    
     (Other) +43.0  1034 TRS (Other)  +1.5 1042  JRS (Other)                                                                    
     +2.1 1045 Nat Guard (Other)                                                                                                
     Funds  Treasury  Division   interagency  receipts  from                                                                    
     FY2023 HB226 5% COLA salary adjustments                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Add  Authority to  Fund Interagency  Receipts Added  in                                                                    
     Treasury Division FY 2025 Salary Adjustment                                                                                
     +161.5  +75.7  1017 Ben  Sys  (Other)  +54.8 1029  PERS                                                                    
     (Other) +29.6  1034 TRS (Other)  +1.2 1042  JRS (Other)                                                                    
     +0.2 1045 Nat Guard (Other)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Funds  Treasury  Division   interagency  receipts  from                                                                    
     FY2025 salary adjustments                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Total $547.4                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin continued to slide 11 titled "Department                                                                           
Overview: Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD) Division                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Mission:  to  administer  the Permanent  Fund  Dividend                                                                    
     program,  assuring that  all eligible  Alaskans receive                                                                    
     timely   dividends,  fraud   is  prosecuted,   and  all                                                                    
     internal  and external  stakeholders  are treated  with                                                                    
     respect.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     FY 2025 Governor's Amended Budget                                                                                          
     $9,096.5: $383.8 DGF, $8,712.7 Other  (64 PFT, 2 PPT, 2                                                                    
     NP)                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Legal and Adjudication Services  from the Department of                                                                    
     Law and  Office of  Administrative Hearings  +90.0 1050                                                                    
     PFD  Fund (Other)  Maintains  legal and  administrative                                                                    
     hearing services as  the Division experiences increases                                                                    
     in fraud and appeals.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Increased Postage  Costs Due to Increased  Federal Rate                                                                    
     and  Mailings +70.0  1050  PFD  Fund (Other)  Maintains                                                                    
     postage   and   mailing   services  as   the   Division                                                                    
     experiences increases  in United States  Postal Service                                                                    
     (USPS)  postage  rates   and  additional  mailings  for                                                                    
     applicants opting for physical documents                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Annual Life Cycle Computer  and Equipment Refresh +52.7                                                                    
     1050  PFD Fund  (Other)  Supports  a four-year  refresh                                                                    
     cycle.  Capital appropriations  have  been provided  in                                                                    
     the past for this cost.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Call  Center  System  Contract   +10.0  1050  PFD  Fund                                                                    
     (Other) Funds  a call center  solution shared  with the                                                                    
     Child Support Enforcement Division                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Total $222.7                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked  why the  computer refresh  was                                                                    
not in  the base budget.  Mr. DeMoulin replied that  the PFD                                                                    
had typically financed its computer  upgrades in the Capital                                                                    
Budget. Representative  Hannan asked  whether the  switch to                                                                    
the operating  budget will be  ongoing and part of  the base                                                                    
budget  into  the  future. Mr.  DeMoulin  responded  in  the                                                                    
affirmative.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:03:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin moved to slide  12 titled "Department Overview:                                                                    
Child Support Enforcement Division (CSED)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Mission: To collect and distribute child support.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget:                                                                                          
     $27,867.4:  $8,881.5   UGF,  $50.0  DGF,   $3.2  Other,                                                                    
     $18,932.7 Fed (192 PFT)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Child  Support   Enforcement  Specialist   Class  Study                                                                    
     +1,275.4  +822.5 1002  Fed (Fed)  +433.6 1003  GF Match                                                                    
     (UGF) +19.3 1004 General Fund (UGF)                                                                                        
     A  class study  was  implemented in  December 2023  and                                                                    
    impacts 107 budgeted positions within the division.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Replace Estimated Reduction of  Federal Funds for Child                                                                    
     Support Enforcement Net Zero                                                                                               
   -292.0 1002 Fed (Fed) +292.0 1004 General Fund (UGF)                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Fund change  from federal  to general  funds due  to an                                                                    
     increase in federal ineligible cases.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Call Center System Contract +40.0  +26.4 1002 Fed (Fed)                                                                    
     +13.6 1003 GF Match (UGF)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Funds  a  call  center  solution shared  with  the  PFD                                                                    
     Division.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Total $1.315.4                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin  spoke to  the second  item. He  explained that                                                                    
the  item was  a technical  change in  funding sources.  The                                                                    
change was associated  with the Title 4 program  in CSED and                                                                    
the Office  of Children's  Services (OCS) in  the Department                                                                    
of Family  and Community Services (DFCS)  when CSED enforced                                                                    
child support on behalf of children  in custody of OCS. If a                                                                    
case was deemed  ineligible by OCS it  was also reciprocally                                                                    
ineligible in CSED.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin  continued on  slide 13  titled   ommissioner's                                                                    
Office                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Mission: The mission of the Department of Revenue is                                                                       
     to collect, distribute, and invest funds for                                                                               
     public purposes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget:                                                                                          
     $1,662.1: $687.8 UGF, $640.8 Other, $333.5 Fed (5 PFT,                                                                     
     2 NP)                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Budget Existing Special Assistant and Policy Analyst                                                                       
     Positions                                                                                                                  
     +456.7 1007 Interagency Receipts (Other)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Adds budget authority for existing Special Assistant                                                                       
     and Policy Analyst positions and aligns travel                                                                             
     authority with historical averages.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:05:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if  the two new  positions were                                                                    
added  when  Commissioner   Crum  became  commissioner.  Mr.                                                                    
DeMoulin  responded   in  the   affirmative.  Representative                                                                    
Hannan asked  if both positions  were currently  filled. Mr.                                                                    
DeMoulin responded that one  employee had recently resigned.                                                                    
Representative Hannan asked which  position had resigned and                                                                    
requested  the  individual's  name. Mr.  DeMoulin  responded                                                                    
that it was  a Special Assistant II to  the commissioner. It                                                                    
had been filled  by Lewellen Smyth in  the Anchorage office.                                                                    
Representative  Hannan asked  what the  scope of  the policy                                                                    
analyst position  was. Mr. DeMoulin replied  that there were                                                                    
not  existing policy  related  positions  in the  department                                                                    
currently,  however,  historically  there  had  been  policy                                                                    
staff in  the commissioner's office. He  furthered that they                                                                    
had eliminated a deputy commissioner  position and added the                                                                    
two  new   positions.  The   policy  analyst   position  was                                                                    
currently vacant.                                                                                                               
2:07:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Crum answered that  the policy analyst position                                                                    
was currently  open. He  noted that  there were  many issues                                                                    
like    energy  issues  where DOR  wanted  the  capacity  to                                                                    
respond  to  questions  and   concerns  rather  than  react.                                                                    
Representative Hannan wondered whether  the elimination of a                                                                    
deputy commissioner  position would show a  deduction in the                                                                    
budget.  Mr. DeMoulin  responded  that  the $454.7  thousand                                                                    
was  a  cumulative  representation   of  the  additions  and                                                                    
decrements   in  staffing.   The   addition   of  a   deputy                                                                    
commissioner would have increased costs over $600 thousand.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  asked when  the special  assistant position                                                                    
was filled. Mr.  DeMoulin replied that it was  filled but he                                                                    
could not recall the exact hire date.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Crum  interjected that he did  not remember the                                                                    
exact date sometime last year.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  asked why the  positions were  not included                                                                    
in the  governor's original December  15 budgets as  well as                                                                    
many  other items  listed in  the presentation.  He believed                                                                    
that many  items should have been  known at the time  of the                                                                    
original budget  request. He believed  that the  items could                                                                    
have  been omitted  from  the original  budget  to make  the                                                                    
total  of  the budget  request  appear  lower. Mr.  DeMoulin                                                                    
answered  in  the  affirmative. He  added  that  the  budget                                                                    
process  with  the  Office  of  Management  and  Budget  was                                                                    
"iterative". The reason  the item was delayed  was to decide                                                                    
on  the funding  source. Co-Chair  Foster noted  other items                                                                    
that he thought  should have gone into  the initial December                                                                    
  th                                                                                                                            
15   budget request. He alerted all the  departments that he                                                                    
planned to bring the issue up more often when warranted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:12:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson resumed chairing the meeting.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin  understood   the  need   for  staff                                                                    
regarding   the  energy   issues   the   state  was   facing                                                                    
particularly with the  demand  for modeling. She wondered if                                                                    
the  tax  division  had the  adequate  staff  versus  adding                                                                    
positions  in the  commissioner's office.  Commissioner Crum                                                                    
responded  that currently  the tax  division had  sufficient                                                                    
staff  and was  capable  of performing  the specific  fiscal                                                                    
modeling.  He indicated  that as  the issues  progressed, he                                                                    
would  work closely  with the  governor's  office to  ensure                                                                    
there was enough capacity. He  currently worked closely with                                                                    
the   Department   of   Natural   Resources   (DNR)and   its                                                                    
economists.  The  policy  position  within  his  office  was                                                                    
needed to  ensure that DOR's fiscal  modeling conformed with                                                                    
statutes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:15:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin  continued  to  slide  15  titled  "Department                                                                    
Overview: Administrative Services Division                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Mission:  To  provide  efficient,  cost-effective,  and                                                                    
     customer-focused  administrative,   financial,  budget,                                                                    
     human resources, procurement, and IT services.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget:                                                                                          
     $3,355.4: $787.7  UGF, $2,090.2  Other, $477.5  Fed (20                                                                    
     PFT) Fund FY2024  Transfer of 4 IT  Help Desk Positions                                                                    
     +499.2  1007 Interagency  Receipts (Other)  Adds budget                                                                    
     authority  for existing  positions  transferred to  the                                                                    
     department  from the  Office of  Information Technology                                                                    
     in FY2024.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Add a Department IT Manager  +192.4 +1 PFT 1004 General                                                                    
     Fund  (UGF) Funds  a department  IT Manager  to oversee                                                                    
     the  Help Desk  and coordinate  department IT  projects                                                                    
     and services.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Total $691.6 thousand.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin  continued  to  slide  15  titled  "Department                                                                    
Overview: Criminal Investigations Unit:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Mission:  To  enforce  criminal  laws  and  regulations                                                                    
     through  investigation, public  education, and  provide                                                                    
     inter-law  enforcement  agency   support  through  data                                                                    
     exchange and joint operations.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget:                                                                                          
     $1,366.3: $868.1 UGF, $498.2 Other (8 PFT)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Fully Staffed Investigative Unit                                                                                           
     +39.0 1004 General Fund (UGF)                                                                                              
     The  Criminal  Investigations  Unit consists  of  seven                                                                    
     Investigators and one support  staff. The Unit has been                                                                    
     fortunate  to  be  fully-staffed   the  past  year  and                                                                    
     anticipates this to continue for FY 2025. Personal                                                                         
     services authority is needed to fully fund the unit                                                                        
     and avoid a shortfall.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  shared   that  he  received  clarification                                                                    
regarding  slide  13  and  the two  new  positions.  He  was                                                                    
informed that  the special  assistant position  was included                                                                    
in the  original budget  but was listed  as being  under the                                                                    
governor's  amended budget,  due February  15, 2024,  on the                                                                    
slide. He  asked for clarity  regarding when the  items were                                                                    
included  in the  budget. Mr.  DeMoulin  responded that  the                                                                    
presentation was a  combination of what was  included in the                                                                    
amended  and  original  budget reflecting  the  most  recent                                                                    
version of  the budget  request. Co-Chair  Foster understood                                                                    
that  some items  in the  overview were  new, and  some were                                                                    
not. Mr. DeMoulin answered in the affirmative.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:17:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin turned  the presentation  over  to the  Alaska                                                                    
Mental Health Trust Authority (AMHTA).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
STEVE WILLIAMS,  CEO, ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH  TRUST, ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via teleconference), introduced himself  and noted that the                                                                    
trust  budget  was already  presented  to  the committee  in                                                                    
detail on January  31, 2024. He advanced to  slide 16 titled                                                                    
 Department   Overview:    Alaska   Mental    Health   Trust                                                                    
Authority                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Mission: To  administer the Alaska Mental  Health Trust                                                                    
     as  a  perpetual  trust  and to  ensure  Alaska  has  a                                                                    
     comprehensive and  integrated mental health  program to                                                                    
     support the needs of Trust beneficiaries.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   Accomplishments: Granted more than $22.2M including:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          • Boosting Beneficiary Housing and Homelessness                                                                       
          Services Across Alaska                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          •   Advancing   Effort   to   Transform   Alaska's                                                                    
          Behavioral Health Crisis Response                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          • Helping Increase Access to Supportive Early                                                                         
          Childhood and Youth Mental Health Services.                                                                           
     Total $167 thousand.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams highlighted slide 17:                                                                                              
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget:                                                                                          
     $4,929.6: $4,929.6 Other (17 PFT)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Reverse FY 2024 Mental  Health Trust Operating Budget -                                                                    
     4,652.2 1094 Mental Health Trust Admin (Other)                                                                             
      Technical reversal                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Mental  Health Trust Authority  Operating Budget                                                                    
     Recommendation                                                                                                             
     +4,819.9 1094 Mental Health Trust Admin (Other)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority recommendation                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Total $167.7 thousand                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams continued on slide 18 and slide 19 titled                                                                          
"Department Overview: Long Term Care Ombudsman Office:"                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Mission:   To    provide   resident-centered   advocacy                                                                    
     designated to  protect the health, safety,  welfare and                                                                    
     rights of  Alaska seniors,  age 60  and over  living in                                                                    
     long-term care facilities. Figures in Thousands ($0.0)                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Per AS 44.25.200(c)(6), the  Alaska Mental Health Trust                                                                    
     Authority shall administer the office  of the long term                                                                    
     care ombudsman.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Accomplishments:   •   827   Facility  Visits   •   355                                                                    
     Complaints  Investigated •  80% of  Complaints Resolved                                                                    
     to the Satisfaction of the Resident                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Challenges:  • LTCO  staffing hasn't  increased for  10                                                                    
     years  while  the  senior population  and  quantity  of                                                                    
     assisted living  and nursing  homes continues  to grow,                                                                    
   limiting their capacity for investigating complaints                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams examined slide 19:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget:                                                                                          
     $982.1: $553.3 UGF, $428.8 Other (6 PFT)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Long Term Care Ombudsman                                                                                                   
     +133.5 1037 General Fund Mental Health (UGF)                                                                               
     Maintains   the   office's   ability   to   investigate                                                                    
     complaints  and make  site  visits  as Alaska's  senior                                                                    
     population continues to grow.  Item not included in the                                                                    
     Governor's Amended Budget.                                                                                                 
     Total $133.5 thousand                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:21:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  cited the organizational chart  on slide 4.                                                                    
He  wondered how  the budget  decisions were  made regarding                                                                    
the  quasi-independent organizations  and  the  flow of  the                                                                    
process through  the commissioner's office to  OMB, etc. Mr.                                                                    
DeMoulin   responded  that   the  corporations   ran  fairly                                                                    
independently.  He elaborated  that  he worked  as a  budget                                                                    
coordinator  and   assisted  on  the  technical   items  and                                                                    
submitting the  budget as well  as the formal  change record                                                                    
detail  request.  Each  quasi  agency  had  its  own  budget                                                                    
process. He asked  the commissioner to describe  his part in                                                                    
the process.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Crum  interjected  that  he  agreed  with  Mr.                                                                    
DeMoulin's explanation  as to how  the process  operated. He                                                                    
merely passed on their requests  to OMB and the governor and                                                                    
did not deliberate the budgets.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  shared that he  asked the  question because                                                                    
some capital budget  items in the AMHTA  were denied related                                                                    
to homelessness  and housing. He  assumed that it was  for a                                                                    
legitimate  purpose,  but he  wondered  how  it got  decided                                                                    
since the  recommendations originated from the  AMHTA board.                                                                    
He appreciated the answer.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:25:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin turned  the presentation  over  to the  Alaska                                                                    
Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC).                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:25:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN  BUTCHER,  CEO,  ALASKA HOUSING  FINANCE  CORPORATION,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),   introduced  himself  and                                                                    
proceeded to  slide 20  titled "Department  Overview: Alaska                                                                    
Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC):                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Mission: To provide Alaskans access to safe, quality,                                                                      
     affordable housing.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget $109,561.3: $200.0                                                                        
     UGF, $40,068.5 Other, $69,292.8 Fed (314 PFT, 22 PPT,                                                                      
     14 NP)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Mental  Health  Trust   Recommendation:  Department  of                                                                    
     Corrections  Discharge   Incentive  Grants  (FY16-FY25)                                                                    
     +400.0 +200.0  General Fund Mental Health  (UGF) +200.0                                                                    
     Mental Health Trust Admin Authorized Receipts (Other)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Targets individuals  exiting Department  of Corrections                                                                    
     to provide  immediate housing  and support  services to                                                                    
     successfully  transition to  community  care and  avoid                                                                    
     repeat incarceration.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Total $400.0 thousand                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Butcher  delineated  that   the  request  expanded  the                                                                    
Discharge   Incentive   Grant   program,  which   had   been                                                                    
successful with recidivism rates  dropping to 33 percent for                                                                    
participants from roughly 66 percent overall.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  inquired how  the money  was spent.                                                                    
Mr. Butcher replied that the  program had been primarily run                                                                    
through vouchers and  the focus was on  housing. He believed                                                                    
that  housing helped  stabilize the  participants therefore,                                                                    
reducing  the  likelihood   of  reoffending.  Representative                                                                    
Coulombe surmised that the voucher  was used to pay rent, or                                                                    
she wondered  whether the program  helped people get  into a                                                                    
new home or apartment.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:29:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Butcher responded that it  was a temporary program where                                                                    
the AHFC  worked with a  few nonprofits and the  housing was                                                                    
only for a finite period of time.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan was  confused regarding  if the  $400                                                                    
thousand was  spent over a  ten year period and  the request                                                                    
was a renewal. Mr. Butcher  replied that the amount was $100                                                                    
thousand each year including previous  years and the request                                                                    
was   for  an   expansion  of   the  program   into  smaller                                                                    
communities in  the state.  Representative Hannan  asked how                                                                    
many people  the request  would help and  for how  long. Mr.                                                                    
Butcher responded that  it was not yet known.  He offered to                                                                    
provide the information.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin reviewed slide  21 tilted "Department Overview:                                                                    
the Alaska Permanent Fund Corporation (APFC)                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Mission:  To  manage  and  invest  the  assets  of  the                                                                    
     Permanent Fund and other funds designated by law.                                                                          
     FY2025 Governor's  Amended Budget  $28,344.8: $28,344.8                                                                    
     Other (67 PFT, 2 NP)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Six Percent  Merit Increase +920.0 1105  Perm Fund Corp                                                                    
     Receipts  (Other) Annual  merit to  address recruitment                                                                    
     and   retention   challenges.  Incentive   Compensation                                                                    
     +915.0  1105  Perm  Fund Corp  Receipts  (Other)  Fully                                                                    
     funds   incentive  compensation   for  investment   and                                                                    
     operations  staff.  Equipment   to  Support  Datacenter                                                                    
     Relocation +150.0 1105 Perm  Fund Corp Receipts (Other)                                                                    
     Disaster  recovery and  business  continuity needs  for                                                                    
     the Corp's  primary data  center located  in Anchorage.                                                                    
     Increase  Volume   of  Travel  to   Forward  Investment                                                                    
     Management  Objectives  +100.0   1105  Perm  Fund  Corp                                                                    
     Receipts  (Other)  Supports  increases  due  to  rising                                                                    
     travel costs  across the nation and  anticipated travel                                                                    
     to and  from the  Anchorage satellite office  to ensure                                                                    
     ongoing team cohesion  and high performance. Facilities                                                                    
     Rent,  Training and  Advisory Support  +56.1 1105  Perm                                                                    
     Fund Corp  Receipts (Other) Adjustment to  the services                                                                    
     line including funding for  rent and technology related                                                                    
     to  the Anchorage  office, additional  consulting costs                                                                    
     driven  by   contractual  increases   and  Board-driven                                                                    
     projects,  and additional  training  for  the Board  of                                                                    
     Trustees                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:33:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin wondered why  the merit increase was 6                                                                    
percent and why  it was necessary. Mr.  DeMoulin deferred to                                                                    
the APFC for the answer.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEVEN  MITCHELL,  CEO,  ALASKA PERMANENT  FUND  CORPORATION,                                                                    
JUNEAU  (via teleconference),  replied  that  the 6  percent                                                                    
merit increase,  was a  board driven  target.   He explained                                                                    
that there  was a different  calculus for the APFC,  and the                                                                    
corporation  could not  be compared  to other  agencies, nor                                                                    
could  they compare  to  the salaries  that  existed in  the                                                                    
private  financial sector.  However,  they strove  to be  as                                                                    
competitive  as possible  for recruitment  and retention  of                                                                    
employees   that  could   provide  the   highest  investment                                                                    
performance.  Representative Galvin  asked what  the current                                                                    
vacancy rate for APFC was.  Mr. Mitchell responded that  the                                                                    
vacancy rate   was not  bad" and was  around 12  percent. He                                                                    
added   that  the   primary   driver   was  retention.   The                                                                    
corporation   wanted   to   remain   comparable   to   other                                                                    
governmental  entities like  the California  Pension Systems                                                                    
or sovereign wealth type  funds. Representative Galvin asked                                                                    
if new employees received defined  benefits and whether that                                                                    
was a factor  in retention. Mr. Mitchell  responded that the                                                                    
class of  investment employee was not  as impacted regarding                                                                    
defined  benefits as  operational staff  that received  more                                                                    
modest salaries.  The corporation's  approach was to  try to                                                                    
retain quality employees that ensured a successful program.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  directed attention to the  bottom two                                                                    
items on slide 21 regarding  the satellite office. She noted                                                                    
the $100,000  increases in travel  and $50,000 for  rent and                                                                    
technology. She  asked if  the request  was the  entirety of                                                                    
the  cost  for operating  the  office,  ignoring salary  and                                                                    
benefits,  and whether  the  request represented  permission                                                                    
for the office.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:38:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell  responded that the  numbers were  not entirely                                                                    
from the impact  of the opening of the  Anchorage office and                                                                    
included  some  additional   lease  costs  of  approximately                                                                    
$35,000 for current rental space.  He added that some of the                                                                    
travel cost related to the  Anchorage office and was roughly                                                                    
a  50/50 split  between  Anchorage  travel and  inflationary                                                                    
increases in  travel costs overall. He  indicated that there                                                                    
were financial impacts related to  the Anchorage office, but                                                                    
the  request  also   included  other  costs.  Representative                                                                    
Hannan requested that the costs  be parceled out for a clear                                                                    
delineation of  costs for the satellite  office to determine                                                                    
its  return  on  investment   considering  it  still  needed                                                                    
legislative  approval. She  remarked that  in the  following                                                                    
fiscal  year  the  state  would  like  to  see  whether  the                                                                    
Anchorage office was worth continuing.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  mentioned  that   she  would  gather  the                                                                    
information  for the  DOR Finance  Subcommittee and  make it                                                                    
available  to  Representative Hannan  and  the  rest of  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:41:00 PM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair Edgmon deduced that since  the Anchorage office was                                                                    
opened, the request was supplemental  to the core operations                                                                    
of  the office.  Mr. Mitchell  replied that  the corporation                                                                    
used a one-time funding source for  the cost of the rent and                                                                    
the request was for office  rent. The increments included on                                                                    
the slide reflected  the expense of opening  the office. Co-                                                                    
Chair Edgmon noted  that the office was up  and running. Mr.                                                                    
Mitchell answered  in the affirmative. Co-Chair  Edgmon felt                                                                    
that he  did not have a  clear picture of how  the Anchorage                                                                    
office was  transacted and he  would wait until  he received                                                                    
the subcommittee findings.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson recalled that  there was a prior discussion                                                                    
of how the  transaction occurred with the  president of APFC                                                                    
but was not fully discussed on the subcommittee level.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:44:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin  continued  on  slide  23  titled  "Department                                                                    
Overview: APFC Investment Management Fees                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Mission:  To  manage  and  invest  the  assets  of  the                                                                    
     Permanent Fund and other funds designated by                                                                               
     law.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Governor's Amended Budget                                                                                           
     $198,163.6: $198,163.6 Other                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Investment Management  Fees and Services  +2,800.0 1105                                                                    
     Perm  Fund  Corp  Receipts (Other)  Funding  needed  to                                                                    
     support   increasing   gatekeeper    fees,   based   on                                                                    
     anticipated commitments within  alternative markets. In                                                                    
     addition, $200.0  supports reconciliation  services and                                                                    
     increased    tax   advisory    services   in    certain                                                                    
     international markets.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Total $2.8 million                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin advanced to slide  24 titled "Position History:                                                                    
Statewide Trend."  He offered that the  slide was originally                                                                    
presented by OMB and was  included to show DORs  operational                                                                    
challenges.  The following  slides demonstrated  its vacancy                                                                    
impacts and mitigation measures.  The graph depicted vacancy                                                                    
as an  operational challenge  at 17.9  percent. He  moved to                                                                    
slide  25 titled  "Position  History:  Filled Count,"  which                                                                    
showed the  historical trend of positions  filled from 2018.                                                                    
He  reported that  filled positions  were climbing  but were                                                                    
well below average of being  optimally and fully staffed. He                                                                    
highlighted  slide  26  titled  " Position  History:  Top  5                                                                    
Vacant  Job Classes.   He listed  the classes  as Accounting                                                                    
and  Tax  Technicians,   Child  Support  Specialist,  Office                                                                    
Assistant,  and PFD  Technician. He  reminded the  committee                                                                    
that the  Child Support  Specialist was  the only  job class                                                                    
where  DOR made  a positive  impact, and  it took  2.5 years                                                                    
from inception to implementation.  Mr. DeMoulin continued to                                                                    
slide 27 titled "Position  History: Hires and Resignations."                                                                    
The graph depicted more hires  since 2023 than resignations.                                                                    
However, there  was a significant amount  of resignations in                                                                    
the Tax Division and CSED.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:46:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson asked what  the vacancy rate in the                                                                    
audit and  tax areas were  and whether the oil  industry tax                                                                    
returns  were  being  reviewed   in  a  timely  manner.  Mr.                                                                    
DeMoulin deferred to the Tax Division for an answer.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON  SPANOS, ACTING  DIRECTOR, TAX  DIVISION, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  REVENUE, ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference), replied  that                                                                    
the Tax  Division had "many auditors"  and administered over                                                                    
20  tax  programs.  He   acknowledged  prior  year's  issues                                                                    
meeting the  6 year  statue of limitations  for the  oil and                                                                    
gas tax program. He delineated  that there was some turnover                                                                    
due to hire pay in  the industry. However, in general, there                                                                    
was  "a lot"  of  longevity among  auditors  in the  defined                                                                    
benefit  program.   He  disclosed  that  the division  never                                                                    
missed  an  audit deadline,  and  the  frustration was  that                                                                    
interest   was  accruing   during  the   6  year   cycle  on                                                                    
assessments. The oil and gas  tax program was currently on a                                                                    
three  year  tax cycle  along  with  all  of the  other  tax                                                                    
programs  and   was  almost  caught   up  with   the  cycle.                                                                    
Representative   Josephson   asked  whether   classification                                                                    
studies were performed for the tax division.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:51:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spanos responded that the  tax division was not included                                                                    
in the  class studies. Representative Josephson  asked if it                                                                    
will  be included  in the  future. Mr.  Spanos deferred  the                                                                    
answer.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin answered  that  the department  was  not in  a                                                                    
queue for  another classification study but  was waiting for                                                                    
the  completion of  the  salary study  to  help address  the                                                                    
hiring issues.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:53:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin   continued  on  slide  28   titled  "Position                                                                    
History:  Departing  Employees.    He  summarized  that  the                                                                    
graphs  showed the  majority of  resignees were  leaving the                                                                    
state and  finding employment elsewhere. He  discussed slide                                                                    
29   titled   Position   History:  Filled   and  Vacant   by                                                                    
Division.   He  pointed  to  the  correlations  between  the                                                                    
vacancies   and   filled   positions   and   the   resulting                                                                    
operational impacts.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeMoulin moved  to slide  30 titled  "Position History:                                                                    
What We Know:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Filled positions  are rebounding  but are below  the 6-                                                                    
     year average                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The distribution  among programs is not  equal. CSED is                                                                    
     down the most, followed by the PFD and Tax divisions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The vacancy distribution by  pay range is predominately                                                                    
     at the lower end, ranges 12 and 14.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  understood that ranges 12  to 14 were                                                                    
competing  with fast  food places  and  grocery stores.  She                                                                    
deduced that  it was the  reason for the range  increases in                                                                    
the CSED. Mr. DeMoulin answered in the affirmative.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:56:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson thought that people  in the 12 to 14 ranges                                                                    
were   more  transient.   Mr.   DeMoulin   replied  in   the                                                                    
affirmative  and  noted  that  typically,  the  lower  range                                                                    
positions were  entry level and  employees moved on  to more                                                                    
professional  jobs, which  was expected.  The issue  was the                                                                    
prolonged vacancies to fill the positions.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeMoulin  advanced to slide  31 titled  "Recruitment and                                                                    
Retention: What We've Accomplished                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Implemented  a  Class  Study   for  the  Child  Support                                                                    
     Specialist positions  effective December  2023. Results                                                                    
     in a 2-range increase to 107 positions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     •  Reclassified Child  Support's  Office Assistants  to                                                                    
     Administrative   Assistants.  Results   in  a   2-range                                                                    
     increase to 28 positions.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     •  Using   in-state  telework  as  a   recruitment  and                                                                    
     retention tool  in difficult to  fill areas  across all                                                                    
     divisions                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • The department has dedicated 1 full-time HR position                                                                     
     to    recruitment   activities;    exceeding   standard                                                                    
     processing time since returning from DOPLR.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • Attending various job and career fairs to market our                                                                     
     programs and employment opportunities                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •  Putting  data  into  hiring  managers  and  division                                                                    
     leaders' hands to  drive future improvements; automated                                                                    
     filled/vacant   reports;    employee   engagement   and                                                                    
     satisfaction survey reports.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:58:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe cited  slide  24  and referenced  a                                                                    
data point regarding unspent  personal services totaling $18                                                                    
million.   She  asked   for   clarification.  Mr.   DeMoulin                                                                    
responded that it  was data from the OMB slide.  He spoke to                                                                    
DOR's  personal services  data.  He  explained that  unspent                                                                    
revenue   lapsed   back   into  the   general   fund   (GF).                                                                    
Representative Coulombe  cited a  reference in  DOR's budget                                                                    
(not  contained   on  any  slide)   to  the   $150  thousand                                                                    
appropriation  relocating  APFC's   disaster  recovery  data                                                                    
center  from  Fairbanks to  Anchorage.  She  asked for  more                                                                    
information. Mr.  DeMoulin responded  that it was  driven by                                                                    
data connectivity issues. He deferred to Mr. Mitchell.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell  replied that the  move was predicated  on poor                                                                    
connectivity   in  the   disaster  redundancy   center.  The                                                                    
Anchorage site will be implemented in the next 6 months.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:02:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB  268  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  270  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  reviewed  the agenda  for  the  following                                                                    
day's meeting.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DOR FY2025 Gov Amend H.FIN 02.22.24.pdf HFIN 2/22/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268
HB 270