Legislature(2017 - 2018)BARNES 124
02/08/2018 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS
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| Audio | Topic |
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| Start | |
| HB298 | |
| HB269 | |
| HB267 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| += | HB 267 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 269 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | HB 298 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED |
HB 267-RELEASE HUNTING/FISHING RECORDS TO MUNI
8:37:34 AM
CO-CHAIR PARISH announced that the final order of business would
be HOUSE BILL NO. 267, "An Act requiring the release of certain
records relating to big game hunters, guided hunts, and guided
sport fishing activities to municipalities for verification of
taxes payable; and providing for an effective date."
CO-CHAIR PARISH noted that public testimony had been heard
previously [and closed on 1/25/18].
8:38:08 AM
REPRESENTATIVE LINCOLN moved to adopt the proposed committee
substitute (CS) for HB 267, Version 30-LS0808\J, Bullard,
1/25/18, ("Version J"), as the working document.
8:38:17 AM
CO-CHAIR PARISH objected for the purpose of discussion.
8:38:29 AM
TIM CLARK, Staff, Representative Bryce Edgmon, Alaska State
Legislature, presented the CS for HB 267, Version J, on behalf
of Representative Edgmon, prime sponsor. He said Version J
would allow municipalities that levy a tax on hunting and
fishing activities access to records and reports submitted by
guiding outfits to the state. The access would be granted to
verify taxes payable and, for all such reports that they would
access, confidentiality would be maintained. He said Version J
includes a change as a result of [Amendment 1, adopted on
1/25/18], which clarifies confidentiality in Section 1 of HB
267.
8:40:01 AM
MR. CLARK, in response to Representative Saddler, clarified that
the language in Section 1 of Version J replaced the language in
Section 1 of the original bill version. He said the language
"makes more explicit the requirement on the part of the
municipality to maintain the confidentiality of the records."
In response to a follow-up question, he said the consequences
for violating that confidentiality would not be changed and are
quite serious in criminal law.
8:41:19 AM
MR. CLARK, in response to Representative Lincoln, referred to a
handout in the committee packet, which shows statutes under
Title 11 that address legal consequences for breaching
confidentiality. They are: AS 11.56.850 and AS 11.56.860.
Breaches for both are classified as Class A Misdemeanors. In
response to a follow-up question, he explained that much of the
information provide by guides to the state is considered
proprietary because many of them have hunting areas or "fishing
holes" that may be "hot spots" they do not want to advertise to
their competitors. These are areas where guides know they can
take their clients and those clients will be successful.
8:43:58 AM
The committee took an at-ease from 8:43 a.m. to 8:44 a.m.
8:44:20 AM
CO-CHAIR PARISH removed his objection to the motion to adopt CS
for HB 267, Version J.
8:44:38 AM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER objected to offer his understanding that
a committee member who was not present had an amendment to offer
and would offer it at the next committee of referral.
CO-CHAIR PARISH said that is correct.
8:45:04 AM
MR. CLARK said the bill drafter in Legislative Legal and
Research Services suggested that "we put a statement on the
record ... in the hopes of avoiding any future legal
uncertainties because of ... Section 1 ... having been repealed
and reenacted."
8:45:34 AM
CO-CHAIR PARISH stated as follows:
To ensure that there are no future legal uncertainties
regarding repeal and reenactment of AS 08.54.760(b), I
would like to put on the record that federal law
enforcement and other law enforcement authorities will
continue to have access to hunting records submitted
to the state prior to the enactment of this
legislation should that come to pass.
CO-CHAIR PARISH noted that Alpheus Bullard of Legislative Legal
and Research Services was available on line to answer any
questions regarding the statement.
8:46:30 AM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER removed his objection to the motion to
adopt the proposed CS for HB 267, Version 30-LS0808\J, Bullard,
1/25/18, as the working document. [There being no further
objection, Version J was before the committee as a working
document.]
8:46:46 AM
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS opined that [HB 267, Version J] is
a great bill that would garner interest from communities with
hunting and fishing activity.
8:47:12 AM
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO said he had contact with someone who was
"somewhat uncomfortable with this." He said he has experience
with municipal government and there is "no nefarious intent by
municipal government to keep accurate records." He said most
municipalities in Alaska follow the general accounting standards
of the Governmental Accounting Standards Board (GASB) laws,
which require accurate record keeping. He opined that it would
be inaccurate to say that municipalities are "loose" with
confidential records; his experience has shown those records are
"very well guarded." He said he would tell people who have a
concern about this issue that this is not a concern he shares.
8:48:58 AM
REPRESENTATIVE LINCOLN moved to report CSHB 267, Version 30-
LS0808\J, Bullard, 1/25/18, out of committee with individual
recommendations and forthcoming updated fiscal note.
8:49:15 AM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER questioned "forthcoming updated."
8:49:16 AM
MR. CLARK explained that it is the bill sponsor's understanding
that with the clarification of strict confidentiality under
Version J, the fiscal note from the Department of Commerce,
Community & Economic Development would be "considerably
reduced." He explained that the department had thought that
vast amounts of information would have to be manually redacted,
which would cost the department time and resources; Version J
would not require that kind of activity and, thus, would bring
down the cost significantly.
8:50:11 AM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER said he gets nervous when he hears the
committee is going to approve "a pig in a poke," but he said he
takes comfort knowing there is another committee of referral.
He said he would check to make sure the fiscal note is properly
modified.
8:50:27 AM
CO-CHAIR PARISH announced that there being no objection, CSHB
267(CRA) was reported out of the House Community and Regional
Affairs Committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB269 Additional Documents - Pioneering Spirits Article - 2.8.18.pdf |
HCRA 2/8/2018 8:00:00 AM |
HB 269 |
| HB269 Supporting Documents - Support Letters 2.8.18.pdf |
HCRA 2/8/2018 8:00:00 AM |
HB 269 |
| HB298 Fiscal Note DPS-DET-01-27-18.pdf |
HCRA 2/8/2018 8:00:00 AM |
HB 298 |
| HB298 Fiscal Note JUD-ACS-01-22-18.pdf |
HCRA 2/8/2018 8:00:00 AM |
HB 298 |
| HB298 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HCRA 2/8/2018 8:00:00 AM |
HB 298 |
| HB298 Supporting Case Filing Data.pdf |
HCRA 2/8/2018 8:00:00 AM |
HB 298 |
| HB298A.PDF |
HCRA 2/8/2018 8:00:00 AM |
HB 298 |
| HB267 Amendment J.4.pdf |
HCRA 2/8/2018 8:00:00 AM |
HB 267 |
| HB269 Additional Documents - FY15 - 17 Distillery Sales 2.8.18.pdf |
HCRA 2/8/2018 8:00:00 AM |
HB 269 |